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Defending Pat Burrell's Decade Value

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We don't do this often, but sometimes I feel like some of these things need to be addressed. I've always said at DRaysBay we cover the Rays and not the media surrounding them. However, the Rays aren't doing much right now and some of these statements are a bit egregious.

First, we had Ken Rosenthal saying the Rays (along with the Blue Jays and Orioles) should just give up on 2010 because, in his opinion, the Yankees and Red Sox had a superior front-four starting rotations. In a less offensible article, Jayson Stark has released his Least Valuable player for the 00s or Aught's.

The list in general isn't a problem. Without giving specifics about his reasoning behind the list, he named Juan Gonzalez the LVP of the decade. He does mention that production, salary and expectations are all variables among other things, but again nothing specific about how the actual order was selected. Without examining every player's case, it's hard to argue with the pick of Gonzalez. Despite missing half the decade, he earned a ton of money for basically nothing. WAR only dates back to 2002, but from 2002-2005 he made nearly $50 million dollars and was worth less than two and a half wins above replacement level combined. That's pretty un-valuable.

The problem I have with the list come at: #8 Pat Burrell. Without any explanation, I'm really not sure how Stark came to this conclusion, especially when Sidney Ponson ranked #9. This means to Stark, Ponson was somehow more valuable than PtB all things considered. Honestly, If Burrell had still been with the Phillies there is a good chance that I see the list and don't think twice. However, since he's with the Rays, and I, as well as all of you, have become very familiar with his career, I don't see how he was the eight least valuable player in the decade.

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ISOlating Contact for the Rays' Pitchers

Grant Balfour does not give up extra base-hits.

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Grant Balfour does not give up extra base-hits.

There are several generally accepted principals in the Saber-world. Among them:

-Most pitchers will regress to a .290 BABIP (Batting Average on Balls in Play) over the course of their careers

-Line Drive against rates will stabilize around 19-20% over long periods of time for pitchers

-HR/FB% (Percentage of fly balls allowed that result in home runs) will stabilize around 10% over long periods

Trapped in a world where we accept true outcomes (HRs, BBs, Ks: The FIP components) as the only things pitchers ultimately control, I wanted to attempt to take a look at which pitches get hit harder beyond comparing BABIPs. This is highly subjective and certainly not scientific in the least. Nonetheless, I think its makes for interesting conversation.

First a few assumptions:

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Hector Guevera is a bad, bad man.

Segovia to Hudson Valley?

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A Brief Look at the Blue Jays Off-Season Thus Far

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These aren't the Blue Jays of old. Which is too bad really. Their squads over the last few years have consisted of a great deal of talent, more than you would be lead to believe. A confluence of bad breaks, silly extensions, and poor drafting has lead Toronto to a barren state of existence, one that could lead to a last place divisional finish.

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Updated eK% with FIP, xFIP, wOBA, K%, tRA* for 2009

In one word, awesome.  (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)

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In one word, awesome. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)


I've created a spreadsheet that ties together some of the more powerful pitcher evaluation metrics out there.  Many thanks to FreeZo for the challenge and assistance, Matthan for the groundbreaking work on eK%, Stat-Corner, Fangraphs, & Baseball-Reference for the data.  You can find a google.doc HERE.  You can download the .xls MLB Pitcher Metrics at that link.  If you want to do your own sorts or calculations it can be very beneficial to just download the .xls instead of trying to extract from googledocs.  Here is a peek at what the workbook entails:

Pitcher Team eK%  FIP   xFIP  K%  tRA*   wOBA 
Garza TBA 20.4% 4.17 4.21 22.0%     4.87      0.316
Kazmir TBA 20.2% 4.26 4.88 18.1%     5.51      0.340
Niemann TBA 16.9% 4.07 4.53 16.3%     4.98      0.329
Price TBA 19.5% 4.59 4.49 18.3%     5.27      0.320
Shields TBA 18.1% 4.02 3.92 18.0%     4.68      0.336

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Rosenthal To Rays: Just Give Up!

The James (Shields) Gang should just give up according to Ken Rosenthal

by Steve Nesius - AP

The James (Shields) Gang should just give up according to Ken Rosenthal


With something like 150 free agents remaining unsigned, and two months until pitchers and catchers report, the Rays should just cancel the upcoming 2010 season.  Forget spending the spring in Port Charlotte or having an opening day at home for the first time in years, the season is over right now; at least it is according to Ken Rosenthal. The senior baseball writer for Foxsports.com wrote the following last night...

Rest of AL East should just give up now

How would you like to be the Tampa Bay Rays? The Baltimore Orioles? The Toronto Blue Jays?

Now pitching for the Yankees in 2010: CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Javier Vazquez.

Now pitching for the Red Sox: Josh Beckett, John Lackey, Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz.

And rest assured, the two AL East super-powers are not done.

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Sabathia, Burnett and Pettitte will welcome Vazquez, make him feel comfortable, help him relax. Vazquez will be in the final year of his contract, pitching for one last big free-agent score. Yes, there are questions about him, just as there are questions about Lackey, who has been on the disabled list with arm injuries in each of the past two seasons.

Tell it to Tampa Bay. Tell it to Baltimore. Tell it to Toronto.

Rosenthal also mentions that the Yankees will replace Melky Cabrera with a free agent and the Red Sox could still add Adrian Gonzalez, but none of that matters. Just look at those front four starters for each team and cancel your season tickets. Sure, in Toronto and Baltimore, 2010 is looked upon as a rebuilding year, but how about the 2008 AL Champion Rays? Ah, forget it too.

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Looking at John Sickels Prospect Rankings

Prospects abound, both in the more recent past, and from the Pleistocene.  (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

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Prospects abound, both in the more recent past, and from the Pleistocene. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Many people here are aware of the great work that John Sickels does over at his SBN site Minor League Ball.  For those that aren't, he takes a look at each individual team and then ranks that team's prospects on an ABC scale.  This is done through a series of stories based around each team.  The format is great for a series, but if you want to see all the prospects at once it can be very time consuming.  With this in mind I went ahead and created a spreadsheet so that everyone could have one source for all this great information. 

He is almost half-way done, so I will continue to update the sheet as more teams roll in, but for now, you can get a good look at the farm system of several of our competitors.  I have created a google.doc HERE if you just want to peruse the list, but I have also linked every player to their MiLB page in the spreadsheet.  The links will not show up on the google.doc so I highly encourage you to download the .xls spreadsheet MLB Prospects 2010 at this link.  Obviously, there will be broader implications once all the teams are done as we can start to assign values to each player and get an idea of relative farm team strength for Major League Baseball clubs. 

Note that the Rays have not been compiled yet, but after the jump I will give some links for past rankings.

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A Q&A with Tampa Bay Rays Baseball Operations Assistant Erik Neander

Die Langerhans, die!

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Die Langerhans, die!

A quick note on Neander: he's one of the brightest minds in the front office. If you need a job description either look below or think of him as James Click's right-hand man. Big thanks to Erik for dishing some information.

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R.J.: Prior to joining the Rays as an intern, you worked at Baseball Info Solutions. What was that experience like?

Erik Neander.: My experience at Baseball Info Solutions (BIS) was invaluable.  Prior to joining BIS in February of 2006, I was pursuing internships with major league organizations, but was severely under-qualified for all available opportunities.  While at BIS, I carefully reviewed an abundance of video and attempted to take advantage of the endless supply of data on hand.  I was surrounded by a collection of people -- full time staff and interns alike -- that were incredibly well educated on the game and they taught me an awful lot, most of which I ignorantly assumed that I already knew.  The hours and lifestyle provided a preview of life in the baseball industry, which allowed me to gauge how serious I was about pursuing a career in baseball.  I'm very grateful for the opportunity and wouldn't trade those ten months for anything, despite my desires of hooking on with a club prior to joining BIS.

R.J.: You interned with the club in 2007, correct?

E.N.: Correct.  James Click offered me a four month internship, geared towards the analytical side of the game.  The position required a fundamental understanding of SQL, something that I serendipitously picked up during my final weeks at BIS.  Matt Lorenzo, one of BIS's technical minds, strongly recommended that I learn SQL, suggesting that it was a useful skill that some clubs would value.  I'm pretty sure it was just his way of getting me off of his back with data requests, but it undoubtedly opened the door for my opportunity with the Rays.

R.J.: When you rejoined the team in a full-time capacity at some point in 2007, did you keep in touch with James Click and the other front office members, or did they just call you up out of the blue one day?

E.N.: Fortunately, my internship eventually transitioned into a full-time position with the club.  I was able to stretch my initial four month agreement into a season long internship.  That September, Andrew offered me a chance to stick around on a full-time basis and I wasn't about to decline.  I'm very grateful for the opportunity.

R.J.: At this point, what are your day-to-day responsibilities?

E.N.: Right now, I'm primarily focused on research and development, working to improve our understanding of the information that we can get our hands on.  Player evaluation, both externally and internally, also takes up a lot of my time.  Of course, there's overlap between the former and the latter.

R.J.: Everyone makes a big hoopla about team chemistry, but how good is the rapport amongst the front office?

E.N.: It's great.  We get along incredibly well, especially considering the amount of time we spend working side by side.  It's a very positive environment with a high level of accountability.  There's strong communication and trust within the organization, and that's critical to our operation as we all have to step into the batter's box together; there aren't any individual showdowns.   

R.J.: When deciding to have B.J. Upton play shallow, to what degree was the team conscious of balancing the subtraction of on-base percentage points even in light of potentially increasing slugging percentage?

E.N.: Balancing extra bases against outs is a key concept when determining how to best position defenders.  We attempt to account for a variety of factors, but ultimately, any recommended positioning has to fit with a fielder's abilities relative to the demands of the position he's playing.   

R.J.: The Pat Burrell signing brought with it questions about whether his power would translate to a park that normally constricts righty power; how much time and energy do the Rays put into research projects like this so that they don't end up with a situation akin to Adrian Beltre in Safeco?

E.N.: We do our best to account for as many variables as possible, parks included.  We're constantly working to improve our methods, though we are probably closer to not having any of the answers than we are to having all of the answers.  It's very difficult to calculate context neutral performance.  Of course, I could always cherry pick and point out that Burrell's ISO at Tropicana Field was only .009 below his ISO at Citizen's Bank Park in 2008.

R.J.: Staying on Burrell, obviously he had a poor season, but do you think people still have a misconception about how batters' production reacts after becoming a full-time DH?

E.N.: Pat went through a lot during the 2009 season and experienced several firsts, including transitioning to the DH slot.  I can't speak for how Pat's conversion from LF to DH specifically impacted his offensive output, but quality work has been published that suggests it's more difficult to hit when you aren't playing the field.  Given Pat's track record of offensive performance, we're excited to see what he can accomplish in 2010.

R.J.: J.P. Howell has experienced some backlash because of blown saves, but given his strong peripherals, isn't this just the random distribution of runs giving him a bad name?

E.N.: Blown saves are a useful description of an event that occurs during the course of a game, but like any statistic, they don't tell you everything about a player's performance.  It just depends on what you want to know.  If you're using blown saves to evaluate the quality of a reliever's performance, then they have the potential to be misleading, especially with relievers that aren't always used to record the last three outs of the game.

In the case of J.P. Howell, several of his blown saves occurred early in the season, prior to primarily being used in the ninth inning.  Through June 7th, Howell had an ERA of 2.17, yet he had blown five of his seven save opportunities, all of which occurred prior to the ninth inning.  His 29% success rate didn't signify how dominant he was to that point and how many leads he successfully preserved. 

A lot of the backlash surfaced after Langerhans hit the walk-off homerun in Seattle.  Ironically, Howell wasn't even charged with a blown save that evening.

J.P. deserves a lot of credit for his performance over the last two years.  We wouldn't have won 189 games over that same time period without him.  

R.J.: When you guys work on aging projections, how much does the Trop's turf get considered?

E.N.: Great question.  Aging curves appear to be a hot topic right now amongst the online community.  The current surface at Tropicana Field has different characteristics than a natural grass surface, but it also has different characteristics than the Tropicana Field surface from 2006, which has different characteristics from the 1999 surface.  In addition, while FieldTurf plays differently than natural grass, we still have a traditional full dirt infield to consider.  While field surfaces likely carry some impact on how players age, their influence would be extremely difficult to quantify at this time.

R.J.: How often do you meet with Joe Maddon and how open is he to some of the newer avenues of analysis?

E.N.: I spend a lot of time prepping material for our coaching staff, but don't interact with them nearly as much as our Advance Scouting Coordinator, Mike Calitri.  Mike, with the help of his intern, Ben Werthan, does an excellent job providing the staff with practical information.  Joe is very open to anything that we present to him and understands that we're all working towards the same goal.

R.J.: Last thing:  do the Rays not see much added benefit in having a legitimate pinch runner, or is this simply the finite roster limit coming into play?

E.N.: With only twenty-five roster spots to work with, we do our best to squeeze as much usefulness out of each spot as we possibly can.  Of course, we're never going to have everything that we want.

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Thanks again to Erik for taking time out of his schedule.

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