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Jake's Take: "On The Cusp"

*These opinions are mine and are not the opinions of DRays Bay. -Jake*
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Last year, I somewhat predicted a huge turnaround of fortune for Rays prospect Reid Brignac. While my prediction of Brandon Wood-like power turned out to be somewhat false, his overall production was very Wood-like. Reid managed to put together a such a great season at Visalia, so much so that he got a promotion to Double A. Should this be attributed to his hitting partner-in-crime, Evan Longoria, or should his offseason workouts be the reason behind this "breakout"?

Who are my picks for 2007?

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This year, my "on the cusp" prospects are Jeremy Hellickson and Matt Walker. Jeremy Hellickson was nearly unhittable at Hudson Valley and got the nod as Baseball America's Top Prospect of the NY/Penn League. I think that his move to the SAL League will be only the start of his "breakout", seeing as I don't see him pitching more than 10 starts there. I believe that he's gonna help lead Vero Beach's already-loaded stable of pitchers into playoff contention in the FSL.

While many Rays fans know the names Wade Davis and Jake McGee by heart, I believe many of them are overlooking Matt Walker entirely. Matt Walker may be looked as the "rawest"(in terms of potential-to-actual results) of the trio, but it appears that the Davis-McGee-Walker triumvirate takes turns with their breakouts. McGee had his in 05 in Hudson Valley, McGee had his in '06 with the SWM Rays and I believe that Walker will breakout in Vero Beach. I think that Walker's top-notch fastball and his "off the table" offspeed pitches will come together in 07 and he may be the pitcher that may be the one to get promoted that will lead to Hellickson going to Vero Beach.

Other Candidates for Minor League "Breakouts":
-Elliot Johnson, 2B: I think that EJ's
surprising 06 numbers will continue in 07 with Durham and possibly get even better(which is scary). I worry about his defensive ability at 2B, though I've heard that he's fully capable at the position, and his baserunning skills(where he's obviously below-average at). Another negative for EJ is the possibility of a Longoria move to 2B, which would pretty much leave EJ without a full-time spot and start his Utility IFer work.

-Alex Cobb, SP: One of my favorite draftees of the '06 class was Alex Cobb and he didn't exactly set the world on fire like fellow draftee Tyree Hayes(another favorite of mine) was. However, you can't ignore Cobb's track record in HS at Vero Beach HS(He threw a few no-no's there, other than being a strikeout machine) and that's why I see him pitch "lights out" at Columbus. He shouldn't be coddled and stuck in a short-season, late-starting league next year and be put into a full-season league in 2007. Unless one of Vero Beach's non-Trio pitchers goes AWOL or outright sucks, I don't see how Cobb making a homecoming in 2007. However, if he can live up to his potential, It MAY happen.

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In the Major League phase, my 2 choices of "breakout" players is Edwin Jackson and Carl Crawford.

Yes, I'm predicting a "breakout" season for Carl Crawford. More on that later.

Without any Minor League options left, it's all or nothing for Edwin Jackson. Our little project of converting Jackson to a reliever last year was very confusing and wasn't very successful. In his 1 start with the Rays last year, he looked like Daniel Cabrera. Basically, he walks as much as he strikes out hitters. However, I'm more confident in Edwin being alot more successful in the rotation than a Seo or Fossum would. Jackson, still wild as ever, has been very successful in the VWL where he's finding himself on the good end of decisions and maintaining a low ERA. I believe that he should be considered for a full-time rotation spot for the Rays, seeing as Kazmir wasn't the beacon of control in his first full season with the Rays. He's 23 and still has tons of potential, what do we have to lose?

My other "breakout" is Carl Crawford, which to many sounds very confusing. The Hardball Times yearly annual(now available at Amazon.com, by the way.) also agrees with me on this thought, but I have my own reasons for this. If you look at Crawford's numbers, which continue to improve on a year-by-year basis, you'll notice that they only improve in small increments. I strongly believe that this will change in 2007, when his wrists problems will be subsided and his altered swing(from those problems) in full-strength will cause his production to sky rocket. If you add the fact that the Rays may be lowering the fences, I won't put a 25-30 HRs season out of the question. After 2007, Carl will no longer be thought of as just a "Stolen Base and Triples Threat." Guess what MLB, you had your chance in the past to trade him....and now we consider him to be "untouchable" for the remaining years of his contract, that's gotta suck for the other teams of the AL East.

Other Candidates for Major League "Breakouts":
-Rocco Baldelli, CF: With Rocco, I see him as being as much of an offensive threat as Crawford is. I've seen enough in Rocco that I consider him to have more power potential in his career than Crawford, with Crawford getting the nod because of health, speed and "untouchable" quote from Friedman. Rocco is set to make around 750 K in 2007, due to some lofty expectations for himself in his self-negotiations with the Rays brass, and that is cause for worry because teams are licking their chops at the production from Baldelli at such a low price in the next 2 years(where he'll make a combined 3 MIL). Rocco's excellent defensive play, improved discipline(at the leadoff spot) and his new-found selectiveness in base-running almost got me to choose him as a 3rd candidate...but I want to see him have an injury-free year in 2007 and on the Rays, before I admit I was wrong for not choosing him.

-James Shields,SP: If only he didn't completely fall off in the summer.... He started out 4-0, then completely lost it and found it again near the end of the season. What caused that mid-season fall-off? I really don't know, but I believe it was due to his routine becoming too predictable and hitters thrived off of it. Still, even with the midseason "ugh"-fest, he managed an almost 3:1 K/BB ration. I believe that the hiring of Hickey will help Shields the most. Shields relies more off of his non-fastball pitches than Kazmir and I think Hickey will put everything together for Shields. I'm not expecting Hickey to turn Shields into Oswalt, seeing as they're 2 different kinds of pitchers, but I won't be surprised if Hickey's work with Shields gives him another "come outta nowhere" story like Oswalt was.

My question to the readers, who are your "breakout" candidates?

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Mine:
Minors:
  • Desmond Jennings
  • Mitch Talbot: continues on his playoff streak and dominates at whatever level he's at.
Majors:
  • Ben Zobrist: I expect a .270 + BA and an OBP well into the .300 range, possibly around .360.
  • Members of our own 'Flameball' division : E-Jax, Seth, Salas, ect. all will show great improvement over last year's numbers.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2006 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Meh
Again, I differ with you on Zobrist, I just really didn't see major league bat speed when he was up towards the end of the season, and admitidly without seeing him at all since then, I can't really feel comfortable relying on him for next year. But alas, I will see what he brings in ST.

As for the flameballers, same thing. I've been disappointed to often to continue relying on them.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Zobrist
Did show he had some sort of bat speed all throughout the minors and in the Arizona Fall League (the fact that Yunel Escobar hit for over .400 will go ignored by me in this argument), plus my expectations aren't sky high, if he provides the ability to just get on base I will be very pleased.

As far as the flameballers, I know, it seems like every season we say this, but Hickey has got to earn his money somehow, getting the Flamers to get going would be a great start.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2006 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but..........
The bat speed required to succeed at the minor league level is far less than the speed required to keep up in the majors. The difference is huge, and thus far Zobrist has not bridged that gap.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The key....
bat him 8th, he had a .333 BA and a .400 OBP in the 8 games he hit there.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2006 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I hardly believe
That his production level would be exclusive in any significant sample size to a spot in the order, but can't hurt to try.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree
with the Walker and Hellickson predictions.  I like them both a lot.  With Walker, I worry about the control.  I think long term he may be a reliever, but he's got a great arm and I'm a believer.

I think Hellickson will really be a fast mover.  I think he'll end up in Vero by the middle of the year.  He's so polished.  His numbers were better than Davis and McGee's in the NYPL, but his ceiling isn't as high as either of them.

EJ really tailed off at the end of the year and I think he'll be a utility man long term because he just can't hold up over a full minor league season.  His OPS in August was .531 and he's done this every year he's been in the minors. Wearing out at the end of the season.  As for his SB rate, this year was out of character with the rest of his career.  This year could have just been a fluke.

by Tyler on Dec 21, 2006 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

someday...
It would not surprise me if you see sometime next year Hayes and Hellickson in the same rotation... those kids are GOOD!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 21, 2006 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably won't happen
With Hayes' age and quick signing(rather than Hellickson signing late), Hayes is slated to pitch in Short-season A Hudson Valley next year. Hellickson is a few steps ahead of Hayes right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tyree has a Hellickson-like year in HV.

by Jacob Larsen on Dec 21, 2006 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on all counts
I am still a little pessimistic on Johnson, considering that due to his background, he is the type of guy that will have to prove himself on every ladder of the system, and his inconsistent play always lends the possibility that the pixie dust will run out.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Blog, here is my take...
Minors: Woody Fines...
Minors: Eligio Sonoqui... He is young, see what happens...

Majors: Seth McClung...
Majors: Jorge Cantu...

This will be a fun spring training...

by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 21, 2006 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Cantu?
I'm almost definite that Cantu will be gone before the season begins.

by Jacob Larsen on Dec 21, 2006 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He does appear
to be the odd man out on the infield

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2006 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

in all honesty
I would rather take Jorge then BJ... They both would give you a everything they had on the field... I would rather have Jorge at bat with two outs and the game on the line then I would have BJ. Now, if a ball was hit to Jorge or BJ in the field? Then I would take BJ to field it, but Jorge to throw it...

by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 21, 2006 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take Upton
The ceiling for Cantu to improve much on his 2005 numbers appears to be relatively minimal, whereas Upton retains the tools to be a superstar player. Because of the depth we have in the middle infield, we can afford to swing and miss with Upton while trading Cantu. However we cannot afford to squander the potential in Upton to be a superstar player.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

basically...
BJ has more potential on the field and with the bat.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2006 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment
Glad you enjoy our work. I'll wait and see on Cantu, but a trade is always a distinct possibility.

As for McClung, I like your optimism on him. However I've resolved to temper by enthusiasm on him, as I predicted a breakout last year, and he didn't, well, break out. I really like the Woods Fines selection.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Dec 21, 2006 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hey...
No one's gonna remember this by the end of the season anyway:

Minors:
Pitcher: Jeff Niemann.  Just getting to pitch a whole season unimpeded would be breakthrough, yes?  And yes, I'm aware he could go to the majors, but I think that's later rather than sooner.
Hitter: Sergio Pedroza, particularly if he plays in Montgomery.  That seems to work for hitters.

Majors:
Pitcher: Chad Orvella gets it back after a somewhat sketchy 2006.
Hitter: Dioner Navarro.  Just the idea that stability will work for him.

by Not That Chuck on Dec 22, 2006 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

I thought about Pedroza
But I'm not sure how he can follow up a 30 homer, 100 walk year.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 22, 2006 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Defensively
Presuming that catching experiement is still on.  Yeah, I shouldn't have listed "hitter" in that case...

by Not That Chuck on Dec 22, 2006 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, hey
Good comment on Niemann...
I already that the "Serg" had already broken out... but I guess that's perspective...
Dioner isn't doing so hot in Winter Ball... but hey if he is little pudge, look for him to break out @ 25!... Hopefully Navi can do it without Cancesco's little black bag...

by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 22, 2006 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

The thing about Navarro is...
His job, at least in my eyes, is to get on-base. I see him more as a Kendall-like pitcher, who also isn't known for power-hitting.

If he ever gets 15 HRs, while maintaining a .350+ OBP, it'll be an all-star calibur year.

All Navi has to do is put up .700+ OPS years and he'll be better than Toby Hall.

by Jacob Larsen on Dec 22, 2006 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Toby...
All Navi has to do is realize he is a MAJOR LEAGUE hitter and he would be better then Mr. Soul Patch...

by thebaddancingraysfan on Dec 23, 2006 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

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