Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Diego Sanchez and the Dangers of Fame in MMA

Blocking Waivers is dumb

So it seems like the Devil Rays tried to block the Red Sox trade of Adam Stern for Javy Lopez by claiming Stern.    Does the Devil Rays Front Office feel like they have too few OF's in the minors?   Why would they claim Adam Stern, who has to fall behind numerous guys in the majors and minors?

I guess the popular theory is that they were pissed that the Red Sox asked Julio Lugo's agent whether he'd play second base.    How can you be pissed off at that after the Alfonso Soriano debacle this Spring?   It's ridiculous that the Rays would block this sort of due diligence - and it's harmful for both the team they were negotiating with (Red Sox) and the player (Julio Lugo) they were tring to trade.

Terrible job, Devil Rays Front Office.   Terrible job.

This post was written by a member of the DRaysBay community and does not necessarily express the views or opinions of DRaysBay staff.

Comment 5 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

How do you say?
I'm not big on Adam Stern, but there's sound reasoning on why we'd contemplate a move like this.

First, by placing a claim on Stern, we'd force Boston to place another player on waivers or kill the trade altogether.

Next, if Boston did in fact "tamper" with Lugo still under our control...this is against the rules in Major League Baseball. However, MLB wouldn't discipline one of their highest money-making teams for tampering.

Stern is probably better of an option than Tomas and probably Hollins and Branyan.

If Rocco's injury forces him to go on the DL, we're going to have to call-up Delmon. Placing a claim on Stern wouldn't stop that.

by Jacob Larsen on Aug 6, 2006 3:09 AM EDT reply actions  

"Tampering"
It might be technically against the rules, but that situation (asking a player whether he'll be happy playing a certain position) isn't why those rules were set in place.    That's the kind of due diligence that teams SHOULD be doing.   And there's no reason baseball should be disciplining anyone for that kind of action.    If Joel Guzman refuses to move positions from 3B - where Upton seems to be now, did the Devil Rays Front Office do a good job in trading for him?  

And no, blocking Stern only changes the money configuration of the deal.

Stern is not better than Hollins or Branyan.   Look at his minor league stats from this year (age 27) and compare them to what Branyan and Hollins did in the minors.

And he's very certainly not better than Delmon.

This is one of those situations where the Devil Rays Front Office is doing things just to mess things up for others, and that's not going to help things in the long run when they actually need to make a trade with the Sox or the Orioles.

by delmonfan on Aug 6, 2006 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously...
I doubt that a DRays/Red Sux trade will happen under this current ownership, just because it's a major rival and we'd overcharge(or vice-versa) in a trade.

I'd probably guess the same with Baltimore...

by Jacob Larsen on Aug 6, 2006 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....
How about the case where in the future,  the Rays want to make a waiver deal?    If the Rays keep blocking things for no good reason, why wouldn't other teams do the same to them?

At some point if you want to compete, you are the ones that lose leverage and you can't overcharge.

by delmonfan on Aug 6, 2006 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but this would be 1 time
We could've had so many current Red Sox through waivers, but we had passed.

Blocking a possible waiver-trade wouldn't backfire in our face.

However, I doubt you'll see it the same way...so consider this diary closed.

by Jacob Larsen on Aug 6, 2006 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Founded in 2005, DRaysBay is home to, "Progressive statistical analysis and reasoned argument."

Please read our Community Guidelines.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Zobrist vs Pedroia vs Cano
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #31 Runoff
127992041_extra_large_small
Fantasy Baseball 2012

Recent FanPosts

Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #35
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #34
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #33
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #32
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #31
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #30 (Again)
Scaled_php_small
Rays Community Prospect #30 Runoff
Small
Take A Moment To Rosterbate

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Jeff Bagwell, Fred McGriff, The Hall of Fame, and 400 Home Runs
ESPN Chat with Matt Moore
Danny Clyburn: 1974-2012
Joe Maddon Town Hall Contest
Hickey said as of now all of the starters -- Wade Davis, Jeff Niemann,...
White Sox sign Dan Johnson
Indians acquire Canzler
Justin Ruggiano to Elect Free Agency
Dougdirt over at MinorLeagueBall compiled John Sickels' rankings with WAR values from Victor Wang's research.

Thread here.
The increasingly desperate search for offense has caused some teams to...

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

DRB Fantasy Baseball

Friends of the Site

DRB Suggestion Box

Drb4_medium


Managers

Slowsky__1__small Steve Slowinski

Dad_small Jason Collette

Brad_small BWoodrum

Price_small Erik Hahmann

Analysts

Lob-city_design_small rglass44

Untitled_small EminenceFront

Small Mulva

Rutg_uakjmedjwh9ndzd4lkll_small Imperialism32

100_1952_small MrNegative1

Steak-with-crown_small CBJones

Whelk_small Whelk

Small PGP

Scaled_php_small mr. maniac

Tampa_theatre_small jcmitchell

Me_small John Gregg