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Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition

Checking out Topkin's Schilling piece and I decided to check out the comments; expecting some slobbering Red Sox goobers saying how the Rays can't afford him and so on. Instead I've come to reassure that a percent of Tampa fans are bloody morons:

by Mike        08/22/07 11:38 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Expert analysis really, great opinion.
by Jeremy        08/22/07 11:13 AM
You want to destroy the fuzzy feeling that what few fans still go have for the Rays?...sign Schilling, I know I'd never go back! And hopefully ownership realizes that most of us would be insulted by their quick buy ticket pumper upper.

Fuzzy feeling?
by Dennis        08/22/07 10:58 AM
While the Rays could use a veteran presence, this is not likely it. If he is good enough to pitch next year, the Red Sox will sign him, if he is not, he is sending out the feelers to steal some money from the Rays, be very careful Stu and Andrew.

Stu and Andrew should be careful, lord knows they've been had in the past, like when they gave all that money to Mark Mulder right?
by John        08/22/07 08:18 AM
Interesting comments. He could add some motivation and confidence in this young staff.

Good take, but I would've added "talent" as well...

by Dan        08/22/07 02:17 AM
Thanks but no thanks!!

Thanks but no thanks!

Is it the water or something? If you live here for a certain time your brain turns to mush? It's probably these same people who are saying no, or nothing at all, that scold the owners for not bringing in good players in the first place. That's why you gotta love this site, it honestly has a nice collection of some of the most intelligent Rays fans around, even in disagreement it's never stupid reasoning or lacking presentation.

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Slow down there jerk,
I'd like to think that I can be just as loud and offensive as your average Sp Times reader.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 22, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I can connect
Every time I look at a picture of Rey Sanchez in his Rays uni, I get a fuzzy feeling.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I guess I can connect
Yeah, it's the same for me and Jenn Sterger

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 22, 2007 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I guess I can connect
Jake needs to do a follow up interview with her.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: I guess I can connect
Or if he doesn't want to I could take care of it for you guys. Just put me in contact.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 22, 2007 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition
Now, I will agree that these aren't the most thoughtful comments I've ever seen - however there are certainly good reasons not to sign Schilling....just as there are good reasons to sign him.

Pros:
 - smart veteran leader that could teach the other guys something.
 - better pitcher than most of our staff, even at his age
 - eat up some innings
 - most teammates say he's a gamer that's a good teammate.
 - who cares what it costs, our payroll is nothing

Cons:
 - he's an a$$hole that has said numerous bad things about the Rays in the past
 - very likely that he could be our highest paid player, and only be healthy enough to play 1/4 of the year
 - some teammates say he's all about grandstanding and all about himself
 - if he's not healthy, his salary might better pay for free parking
 - best years are definitely behind him

by TallMatt on Aug 22, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Of course there are negatives and positives for signing anyone -- maybe not A-Rod or Pujols -- but the fact is they didn't convey those, they just say "NOOOOO" or "NO THANKS" and then when the Rays don't sign a guy worth 10 mil they say that it's Stu being cheap.

Also Schill's an asshole, but that doesn't effect us fans any, does it? People said Delmon was an asshole, same with B.J., I don't know if that's the case or not, but it hasn't stopped people from cheering for them. Of course having 25 Carlos Penas would be great, but it's obviously a non-existent reality due to the egos of the modern day athlete.  

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2007 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition
Off-topic, but I cannot resist. I am 64 years old and have followed baseball for close to 60 of those years. Since the beginning, I have heard about the "egos" of modern day athletes, or of them playing only for the money or of them not playing good fundamental baseball. I heard it throughout the 1950s, and equally as stridently in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s and now in the 21st. century. It is one of the silliest cliches in the book and has no place on a site that you quite correctly note is a site for intelligent Rays' fans.

I am carefully checking for the moment that I officially become an old fart, and I will know it has occurred the first time I say something like that. At that moment, I will retire to my room and never speak again.

by bobr on Aug 22, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition
Granted athletes always have had egos, but I believe the statement that we hear about them more nowadays (due to that four letter network) would be an accurate statement, correct?

That's more of what I meant by modern day, it's naive to think the switch clicked ten years ago and before that we never had egotistical players out for themselves.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2007 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition
If the point is that there is more publicity and more investigation into the negatives of players today, I cannot disagree. There is little doubt that the sports page culture used to be to create heroes and now it is more to tear them down. I think both are noxious and have nothing to do with actual reporting or analysis.

by bobr on Aug 22, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Media wise
Delmon and BJ have came off as jerks through their 'confrontations' with the cameramen a few months ago (during the Dukes fiasco) Pena's been very, very well represented in both article and video form; really he's been made into a gentle giant.

For instance, would the Dukes situation be that big 30 years ago? Probably not; unless you believe that players either used protection or just didn't sleep with the groupies and such. Illegitimate children and arrests have always happened; Dukes is just playing in the wrong decades.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 22, 2007 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tampa Fans Are Morons: 256th Edition
The sox won't sign Schilling next year. I have a feeling they would rather retain the cheap services of Wakefield, a proven innings-eater and class guy. I base this on the emergence of Kevin Cash as the possible kuncklecatcher of the future. The sox rotation probably will look like this:

Beckett
Matsuzaka
Buchholz
Lester
Wakefield, or random corpse x.

TB should definitely go HARD after schill. Schill will provide the veteran presence that TB has never had. Maybe go for Clement too if he shows signs of a comeback this september, sign him on a "prove yourself" contract. Then somehow put together a bullpen. Blam, wildcard contenders.

by rethcir on Aug 22, 2007 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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