Glad I stayed at home for game 2
I was at game 1 section 130 bout fifteen rows up behind the Rays pen. Great seats but I was disappointed with the outcome. For game 2, I pulled out all of the stops and followed my superstitions to a T. I wont be arrogant and claim I helped in any way but … I also don’t think I hurt.
On a side note. Some Rays fans are just as bad as Red Sox fans. Three drunk guys sitting behind me on Friday night were Rays fans and would not stop antagonizing the spattering of Boston fans sitting around us. They were not typical Boston fans either, ie loud drunk obnoxious pink hatters. They were more like an older gentlemen in his 70’s and his wife. I think they were probably retirees that moved to this area. No need to harass someone for their laundry they clapped when Boston did something good just as Rays fans cheered when Rays did something good. Finally they had enough of the badgering from the drunk guys behind us and left in the 7th inning… it was still a no hitter too when they left. As the guy left I shook his hand and said not all Rays fans are assholes. Don’t let them ruin your chance of seeing a no hitter for your team on the road. They guy said its ok… we just can’t take anymore of the gentleman behind you and I said I’m sorry you paid so much to have your game ruined by drunken loud mouthed idiots.
Some Rays fans embarrass me, some Red Sox fans are classier than others.
My final synopsis… Asshole behavior from fans comes from all teams.
I went to watch a good game it sucked the Rays came out on the wrong side. It sucked even more that I had to put up with general asshattery from drunken Rays fans.
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asshole behavior comes from every team true... but more from the red sox fans
i dont know how some of you guys on here put up with some of those douchebags red sox fans for those past 10 years, including part of this year, when it was mostly red sox fans at the start of the rays-red sox series in may.
and im not bashing all red sox fans, there are alot of good ones out there, they just have the most idiot ones (mostly the bandwagon fans)
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by RaysOfHope on Oct 12, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree totally
But … I guess my counter point to that would be …
Asshole fans usually = Bandwagon fans.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 12, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup i definetly agree with that
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by RaysOfHope on Oct 12, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and pewter pirate, dont be embrassed by the idiot fans
i live in MN and have to deal with some idiot loud mouths when i go to twins games, all i do is just shake my head and am just glad that i am not like that, some people just got to realize to keep their mouth shut towards opposing fans and just root for your team on the field.
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by RaysOfHope on Oct 12, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is silly
if you go to a sporting event in the opposing team’s clothing, you’re going to get heckled no matter what team’s fans they are.
by mittens on Oct 13, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's silly if you got into Fenway or Yankee Stadium
and expect to be treated respectfully. It shouldn’t be that way here. Friendly heckling/razzing is fine, but non-stop harrassment of someone just minding their own business and cheering for their team is uncalled for. If you think unprovoked harassment of an elderly couple is silly, you’re probably one of the drunken ass-hats described in this post. You’re no better than the arrogant Boston fans that you hate so much. Set a goddamn example by acting civilized, instead of following or condoning the examples set by the ignorant and disrespectful fans.
by rayweaver on Oct 13, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't know if I agree with this or not
Just putting things into current scope, most Red Sox fans at the Trop are obnoxious, both directly and indirectly. There are two forms of ‘obnoxious’ in this situation. First, there is the individual obnoxiousness of the fan who roots for the Sox. Rooting for the Sox is fine, but that’s not enough for him. On top of that, he proceeds to say things about how the Rays fans ‘need’ his Sawx fans to sell out the Trop, how real baseball is played in outdoor stadiums on real grass, and how his Sawx are time and battle tested, playoff proven, etc etc and so on. This is the obnoxiousness of the Sawx fan that we all know and love to hate, and they take care of themselves; eventually they get too obnoxious, they pick a fight with the wrong person, get a black eye or a bloody nose, and get escorted from the stadium with instructions to not return.
Then, there’s the other obnoxiousness, that being the obnoxiousness of the fan collective that shows up at the Trop for Sox games, and this was very clearly illustrated in Game 2 of the CS. Red Sox fans were sparse in Game 1. Of the 35,000 fans there, there were probably at the most, 2500 at the game and most of them were sitting between the 3rd base dugout and the visitor’s bullpen. Some of them were die-hard Sox fans who will never turn and that’s fine. Some of them came from Boston, and that’s fine as well, and yet still there were a handful of dopes who root for the Sox because their friend who lived in Boston rooted for the Sox and so they do too even though they’ve never lived in or even seen Boston.
If I had this mentality, I’d still be rooting for the Dodgers since that was the very first little-league team I ever played for, or the Indians because my aunt and uncle were diehard Indians fans and I lived in Lorain for 2 years.
When I was 3.
Then the Red Sox won game 1 and wouldn’t you know, suddenly it seems like the number of Sox fans tripled for game 2. Now they are running down the entire 3rd base line, both lower and upper deck. Maybe a few more of them flew in from Boston, but my guess is that most of them were straight-up sell-outs who, between the Sox and the Rays, are only going to root for whoever wins the series. While the crowd was still clearly partisan towards the Rays, game 2 was more of a 3/1 split where game 1 was more like 10/1. Most of these fans by themselves aren’t rude or mean-spirited, but as a group they’re both insluting and discraceful. These are the worst kind of bandwagoners, and the only real way to get rid of them is to make them feel unwanted and uncomfortable by any means available.
By and large, the White Sox fans I saw in the ALDS individually were much more rude and obnoxious then the Red Sox fans I saw (and met) at the ALCS. Hell, I even bought a Red Sox fan a beer in game 1, a guy who was down from Boston. But I also ‘spilled’ ice on a Sox fan in Game 2 and helped a lost Boston hat get down to the lower deck after some mouthbreather got it snatched off his head forefeited his allegience after his team lost.
You may think this is the wrong way to do this, but look at it this way: how many opposing teams fans do you see at Raider games?
by kericr on Oct 13, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want the Rays fan base...
Being compared to the Raider fan base.
Re-Evaluate that statement. Laundry is no reason to harass someone. No matter what venue they are in.
Just because you don’t like someones’ shirt when you pass them on the street you don’t yell and heckle them do you?
If so you are the exact kind of fan I am referring to. If not… I would say good, laundry and venue should not matter.
Baseball is a game. Assholish fan behavior cheapens it.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 13, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, it depends
I would like the Raiders fan base to be compared to the Rays fanbase in the aspect that the Trop should not be accomidating to visiting fans. I would like the fanbases also to be compared when considering the number of dedicated fans each team has.
The stabbing of opposing fans and rioting? Not so much.
No, I don’t wander the streets and scream obsenities at every Red Sox fan I see. There’s no reason for that; that’s something a certifiable nutcase would do. But I’m not going to be all hunky-dory with 7,000 Red Sox fans from the greater Tampa Bay area showing up to root for the Sox for game 2 after ‘their team’ goes up 1-0 in the ALCS when none of them showed up for game 1. The Trop can sell out with Rays fans alone; we don’t need that crap, and I’m not going to be nice. If that makes me an asshole, then oh well, I’m an asshole. It’s not the first time I’ve been called it and it won’t be the last.
Just keep in mind that it doesn’t make one of us a better fan than the other, it just makes us different types of fans.
by kericr on Oct 13, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectable
I can accept that.
For the record I am not calling you an asshole lol. But I agree 7k fans at game 2 for the Sox is disgraceful. The Rays fans do a good job of making them feel unwelcome. But have a little courtesy and please consider they paid good money that is going into the Rays pockets to help beat the Sox in the future. I just thought it was un called for to heckle a elderly couple because I am sure they have been following the Sox since before the guys who were heckling them were born. Possibly since before the hecklers parents were born.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lorain, OH
where dreams go to die
by RaysTheRoof on Oct 14, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Odds that most of the asshole Rays fans were asshole Sox fans four months ago?
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 13, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
38%
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 14, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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