DRaysBay: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:

Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: New media and the Loss of Sportsmanship

...

Roots_game_tiny by R.J. Anderson on Comment 293 comments

FUCK.

0 recs  |  Comment 293 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

ugh, well you'll come back on Saturday

its not over yet

2008 - A New Era. The End of An Era.

by goyankees on Oct 17, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We better fucking win Game 6 or we are going to lose the damn series!

If the Rays don’t win game 6, all of the pressure shifts back on them & the fucking Red Sox are relentless in the post season. The Rays have to win Saturday night!

by drrub on Oct 17, 2008 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel sick

And the realization finally hits me that it’s 12:30, I’m still at work, and I just had the one thing making it bearable snatched away from me.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Oct 17, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 17, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Negative: we lost

Positive: Dorm to myself tonight so I have a lot of happy time and might break my roommates guitar.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ah well

FSU played tonight so TAMPA BAY is all i got Saturday… oh bright side

Buc 'Em - Where a select few of Bucs Fans spend their time...

by JScott on Oct 17, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hockey

eh… time to hit the hay… you’ll get ’em saturday…

Buc 'Em - Where a select few of Bucs Fans spend their time...

by JScott on Oct 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...at least the 'Noles won

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

less jinxing, please
How sweet is it to celebrate the AL Championship at Fenway?

by E. Hayden on Oct 17, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BURN IN HELL

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for whoever said that

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

official scapegoat
GOIN TO THE SERIES!!!!

Tiny by SMACKBOYS on Oct 16, 2008 8:16 PM PDT

IT’S GOT TO BE FATE …

We went through Philly on our way to a Super Bowl in 2002

We went through Philly on our way to a Stanley Cup in 2004

Now we go through Philly on our way to the World Series Championship!!!

 This is the year, we have been in last place for 10 years … now we go from worst to first!

by redwolf75 on Oct 17, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he had

some nice t-shirts, ha!

Buc 'Em - Where a select few of Bucs Fans spend their time...

by JScott on Oct 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is worse:

The Scioscia bunt? Or Maddon not putting in the lefty?

by oc on Oct 17, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice name.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 17, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a few jinxing friends to kill tomorrow

Regressing to the mean streets of St. Pete

by stpetelawyer on Oct 17, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, I didn't want to go to game 6

But now I’m going to be there and acting like a fucking madman.

by steve-o1285 on Oct 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blame Maddon ... or jinxes.

I side with jinxes.

Bringing up LaMar is also very bad karma. Thanks TBS.

by RATW on Oct 17, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets be honest

It wasnt Howells fault.. Longoria made the error that led to the lost.. but in reality it was Balfour and wheeler that lost it

ugh.

by focs on Oct 17, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 9th was more Longoria than Howell

If Youk wasn’t in scoring position, Howell would probably have pitched to Bay, and game could be different.

Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?

by Blicks on Oct 17, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take 2 out of 3 in Fenway anyday

Didn’t like a few of Maddon’s calls though

by Texas Rays Fan on Oct 17, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It doesnt matter

who blow this game or not. If you are going to the game thursday, be loud, be proud and rally this team. Offensively we need to keep it up and our pitching in front of our home crowd will back them up. We would of taken 2 outta 3 at Fenway even before we left. So we cant really complain. We have our best pitcher throwing at home and a rested bullpen again. We still only have to win just one against them winning two. Lets go!!!!!!~!

by amart on Oct 17, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The game is Saturday.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I meant

lol sorry, but listen, we have to take away from this game a still potent offense against their starting pitching and revamped Kaz.

by amart on Oct 17, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SON OF A GFIJSDGDG

GJDNGSDGJIOSDGJMSD:LKGMNSDJKL:GHn

Webmaster of Driveline Mechanics
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com - An Unconventional Look at Scouting

by Kyle Boddy on Oct 17, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree!

Even if it was just for one more inning. Kazmir was shutting Boston down. I think Maddon could have got atleast one more inning out of Kaz. I thought they pulled him prematurely.

by drrub on Oct 17, 2008 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GTG JUMP OF CAPITOL BUILDING NOW

CAN I HAZ…fuck it…we don’t deserve that line after this bullshit

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Painful.

World series trip can take a lot of that pain away though.

Win the next game. Thaz it.

by Omerta on Oct 17, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really OT: but the players association has found evidence that every team colluded against signing him

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

barry bonds i mean

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This times a million.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow really? Where'd you find that?

Of course he used steroids, but so what…he definately could’ve contributed this year.

by Omerta on Oct 17, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I know.

He doesn’t deserve to be singled out for it.

by Omerta on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i saw it on the bottom line

barry shouldve been signed by someone,

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really disagreed with leaving Wheeler in and not because of righty lefty match-ups, but because he was working up in the zone the whole night.

That last at bat to Crisp, he threw 6 straight 88mph fastballs above the belt. That’s asking for trouble. And he was up the 3 previous batters. He was playing with fire and got burned.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Oct 17, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly

i wasnt even surprised Crisp lined that one… not at all, i was expecting it, in fact. honestly, wtf was Maddon thinking… its like he got a call in the 7th, “yo Joe, we really need the revenue from a game 6… why not let us clinch this at the Trop”

by daveh33 on Oct 17, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just can't let it get in their heads

tonight is a very good night to reflect 30 minutes on this loss and move on. 2 out of 3 at Fenway is great. Does it suck to be 9 outs away from th WS and blow it….of course. But the Rays can’t let it get to them or they will be in trouble. We got 2 games at home…..keep cool and win it

by free hotdogs on Oct 17, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh...hm.

How about that.

Go get ’em at home.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

Camden Chat
Bad Left Hook

by SC on Oct 17, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have been drinking heavily since Kotsay hit that double

But the fact is that the 8th was among the worst single innings of bullpen management I have ever seen.

Ever.

Ever ever.

Was there any non Red Sox fan in the world who was not yelling “PULL WHEELER”?

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no, seriously.

I watched this game alone at a goddamn new york sports bar with a bunch of massholes surrounding the pool table, karaokeing “Xanadu”. I have had no feedback on the 8th. I really have a hard time remembering a comparable managerial fuckup since Grady Little. And I couldn’t sort my way through the game thread without smashing my head against my desk until I slip into the warm bath of oblivion. So…what’s the word. Was it as bad as I think it was?

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think we are going to win this series.

But is there any defense for what happened in the 8th? Specifically, in the head of Joe Maddon?

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone watch the francona press conference/

i believe he just said that he is going with lester in game 6

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

....k

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ru sure?

i think that that studdering guy asked him if he is going to shuffle the rotation and he said that is exactly what he is going to do

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i had to replay it a couple of times so i think that he said that he is going with lester in game 6

the studdering guy really throws me off when i listen to it

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swell.

I’m not a Rays fan, but for the next two days I have to hear about the overwhelming grittiness of the Red Sox and hw the Rays inexperience has them freezing up like deer in headlights.

I AM a NY Giants fan, though, and this reminds me of the Super Bowl when the Pats pulled ahead to take the lead in the last 2 and a half minutes. On one hand I was freaking out. On the other hand, if at the beginning of the game, I could have bought into that situation of the Giants within scoring distance, i would have.

In the same way, I think your team’ll be fine. If at the start of the series, you could have had the Rays coming back to Tampa Bay up 3-2 with Shields and Sonnanstine coming up, would you have taken it in a heartbeat?

Momentum is overrated. You’ll be fine. Good luck!

by twincitiesknick on Oct 17, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lester in game 6?

Fuck….

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Francona say that?

Because then fucking shit, I just keep telling myself Beckett vs Shields

please dont tell me that Lester pitching is confirmed

by joeybw on Oct 17, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares

We rocked him at Fenway, why cant we do the same at the Trop?

by amart on Oct 17, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone asked him about it in the press conference

and he said that he is going to shuffle the rotation to have lester pitch in game 6

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya i guess it is beckett

i replayed the question he asked and didnt hear the other part until i replayed that part a couple of times,

sorry guys i just really couldnt understand that studdering guy one bit

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could you understand that guy the 1st time he said the question?

i had to replay it at least 3 times to understand him completely

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

But I thought I had it…and it was confirmed when I saw it on ESPN.

by steve-o1285 on Oct 17, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya

the 1st time i heard it i didnt even hear the studdering part and though that he asked him if he was going to go with lester in game 6 and though he said yes that is what we are doing

thank god for dish network and their replay abilities lol

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no its not!

some studdering guy asked him if he was going to shuffle his rotation to with beckett and lester and he said that is what he is going to do

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy asked him if he was still gonna go with Beckett in 6 and Lester in 7.

Francona said yes, that’s exactly what we are going to do.

Beckett vs. Shields in Game 6

Go Nova

by dbroncos31 on Oct 17, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup i know that now

just didnt hear the end of that guys question

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I have a really bad feeling about this shit

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd bitch about Maddon

but JP wasn’t exactly clutch either. This was a total complete astronomical fail job by everybody involved.

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Order of blame, IMO.

1. Maddon
2. Balfour
3. Wheeler
4. Longoria (error put Youk on 2nd, no way Bay gets walked if Youk was only on 1st with 2 outs).
5. JP

Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?

by Blicks on Oct 17, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw in Pena, Upton, and Gross defensive miscues and you got almost everybody

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just of note:

Kaz was supposed to lose this game tonight anyway. Considering he did well and the bullpen blew it tonight, it’s a wash. They still have to win out if they wanna win the series.

by kericr on Oct 17, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We can win at home.

I like our odds with Shields over Beckett.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OTM has forgotten what happened
Then Scott Kazmir, Grant Balfour and Joe Maddon allowed the Sox to get back into the game. David Ortiz found his thunder at the best possible moment, stroking a three-run homer. 7-4.

Emphasis mine.

Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?

by Blicks on Oct 17, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just updated it.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool.

Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?

by Blicks on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?

by Blicks on Oct 17, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord willing

Good lord willing

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I remember that guy.

Didn’t he pitch game 1?

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And did a hell of a job too.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 17, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think i remember who josh beckett is

didnt he like give up 8 runs or something in game 2?

btw what happened today with our pen was a rare thing dont expect it again, unless it envolves dan wheeler

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touche.

Although your pen also shit the bed in game 2.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 17, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still rather have the rays pen then the red sox pen

i wish that we had a closer as good as papelbon but the it really surprised me tonight how bad balfour was, wheeler not so much, he just has the look like i just am about to shit my pants

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

that i was planning on taking the bus up to boston and spending the next 5 days and nights banging pots and pans together outside paplebon’s house.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't go to lester

I officially became a Ray fan when the hated Nation beat the Angels. I was rooting for you guys to burn a hole in their hearts by letting them have hope and then snuffing it out. All I can say is please don’t let it get to Game 7 where anything can happen. Beckett is so beatable right now. The good thing is that the Rays are young and resilient and probably don’t realize the magnitude of what just slipped through their fingers.

by steveray8 on Oct 17, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at Fergs tonight and I am shell shocked.

I want to have faith, but it is so hard to. We lost a 7 run lead with 7 outs to go to clinch a World Series birth.

This is the biggest collapse in sports history if we do not pull this out.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, 2004 will always be the biggest collapse in sports history.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 17, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry you are wrong

3-0 is less of a comeback than 3-1 with a SEVEN RUN LEADS WITH SEVEN OUTS TO GO.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be such a fucking fatalist.

I was crushed by this, still am, and now I’m springing back into shape.

J.P. Howell kindly requests that you please Bach the fuck up.

by esoteric on Oct 17, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We still have a chance. We have to win one out of 2 games

However if we lose this series we become worse than bill buckner.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

home field

Being at home is everything in the playoffs. If Boston gets down early on Saturday, there’s no way they muster a comeback from even 2 runs . . .

by steveray8 on Oct 17, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about?

We gave up seven tonight.

SEVEN.

by plasticman on Oct 17, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a fucking idiot

Did you not watch what just fucking happened?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Boston gets down early on Saturday, there’s no way they muster a comeback from even 2 runs . . .

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

meant to reply to original post.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone who thinks we are done

dont watch the goddamn games

The best home team in baseball needs 1 win and they have 2 shots

Beckett can pitch right now so whether he goes in game 6 or 7, thats the clincher

We finally experience what every other team has.

WE TOOK 2 OUT OF 3 IN FENWAY. WE BEAT LESTER. OUR OFFENSE IS EXPLODING.

If you think we are done, find something else to watch.

I don’t need 50 sternfan’s posting

by joeybw on Oct 17, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

yeah, but...

it was still a terrible loss.

and totally preventable with a bit of marginally competent bullpen management by maddon.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen management doesn't matter when NONE of the guys you trot out thee get the job done

but Maddon still sucked balls tonight

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but

bring in Howell after Wheeler walked Bay and we win this game.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, because JP looked real fucking clutch in the ninth

This was an epic fail by EVERYONE

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

is why I left the GDT before the game was over. That was bullshit. A lot of you were in rare shit-tastic form last night. I felt embarassed for you guys.

by kericr on Oct 17, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most painful loss of 2008

I blame it on Maddon’s handling of the bullpen, I think he got complacent with them and acted like it wasn’t a close game than bam its 7-6. I’m so mad about it I’m not gonna comment anymore. Sorry guys.

by sofladude77 on Oct 17, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't think he got complacent

he just likes wheeler more than most of us. he truly threw what he thought was our best.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha...

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Oct 17, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are only 2 HRs behind bonds/aurilla for the record for teammates with the most combined HRs in the postseason

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope not

I hate to say it . . . but we might be taunted for years to come by highlights of this game.
And f-tard Coco Crisp was the big hero – truly sickening

by steveray8 on Oct 17, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS

We can never fail as hard as that

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no it is not

of course it depends if we win the series

if we lose the series this becomes the biggest choke job in sports history.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously?

if we lose the series can you post a single incident that is a biggest total choke job?

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a bigger deal because it's your team.

Nothing I say will convince you otherwise.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Oct 17, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

This was an epic collapse. If we lose the series we will be the laughingstock of all sports. That is a fact. However i do believe we will win the series. I’m just ignorant to the point to ignore the fact that if we do lose that we have set a new standard for choking.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a fact

I don’t think you understand a teams win probability

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I understand.

They blew a huge lead. These things don’t happen often.

That doesn’t make your point any truer.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Oct 17, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it does

It is factual. If we lose the series we will have failed more than the Yankees.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except it's totally true.

He has his mind made up.

J.K.L.

by acblue on Oct 17, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait a second. i got distracted by beers.

Dude is right w/ his numbers. The Red Sox’s win probability was never as low in 2004 as it was tonight when Maddon shat the bed. But it still doesn’t change the fact that debating “shittiest losses” or “worst collapses” based on win probabilities makes you a robot. So, yeah, both were shitty, and were shitty on more extreme or milder levels for different people based on different things that do not involve decimal places, so, really, who cares? They were both really shitty?

Unless you are writing a book whose sales depend on the accurate mathematical ranking of shittiness of sports losses independent of the humanness and irrationality of sports fans/people.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with being a robot?

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 17, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The numbers are important, but "choking" is subjective.

1995 AL West, 2007 NL East, Oilers blowing a 35-3 3rd quarter lead in the 1992 AFC playoffs, etc etc etc. These are all far bigger chokejobs than the Rays losing this series. (Which, for the record, they most likely will not.)

J.K.L.

by acblue on Oct 17, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Rays lose this series it will be mathematically worse than the OIlers blowing that lead….Just saying though…

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not disagree

I can care less about the ranking of what is the worst. It just seems some people are just totally ignorant of the fact of the absolute magnitude of this choke. I’m sure if you researched you’d find a bigger one. That isn’t the point. The point is this was absolutely huge. It is not as easy as just turning the page and starting anew. The Rays really have their biggest challenge of the year upcoming.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what I am aware of it it would be

I do not know if any other scenario that would be less likely. Especially once you factor in the high stakes.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you are raking this possible collapse as the "worst in sports history"

based 100% on mathematical win percentages.

Which makes total sense if you are a computer and are attempting to defeat Kasparov.

Also, um, two games left to be played.

And, also, um, why is nobody discussing how absolutely terrible Maddon was tonight?

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to make you happy

I’m saying IF we lose the next two games it is the worst in sports history. It is at worst in the discussion…

However we aren’t going to lose the next two games. Therefore, tonights collapse will be soon forgotten.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we better win in game 6, i cant take 2 more games of chip caray

i might kill him if the sox some how win this series

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you fall

you brush yourself off and get back up and take a bigger swing.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will ban you.

We have won close games against this team and we can do it again.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

big game james will lead us to the ws

keep doubting this team guys, it works, when espn doubts us or some other stupid network doubts us, we prove them wrong again and again and are about to do it again

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dan wheeler definetly shouldnt be even allowed in the trop for his protection for game 6

also anyone think that gabe gross should be benched for nando?

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Wheeler can walk the fuck back to St. Pete

….free Troy Percival?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bright side

more time off means the Phillies to get complacent and lose their edge

by steveray8 on Oct 17, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

when people doubt the rays good things happen to them

after game 1, i was thinking, no biggie, they still have to win 3 more, and its not like we havent taken 2 out of 3 from the sox in fenway before

trust me guys, the rays will win this series

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a season of challenges, it only makes sense.

1) Everything the Rays have done this season has been hard earned. Why not the ALCS.
2) We only needed 1 win in Boston. We got 2.
3) The Rays are playing in the ALCS.
4) We weren’t supposed to beat Beckett and Lester. Why not beat them twice?
5) We play our best when everything looks the worst.
6) It’s not easy.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Oct 17, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It was never going to be easy.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Everyone jumping off bridges needs to understand this.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Oct 17, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must remember

It was probably same people jumping off when we lost Game 1 and/or that 7 game losing streak before ASG and/or any other moment when we were down in the season.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if this was to put the sox up 3-2 i would feel differently

but we are up 3-2 people! and going home where we are the best home team in the whole league!

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I may look like i am posting like a doomsdayer but I think we will win. I’m also a realist. I understand that if we lose this series we are the symbol of the biggest choke job in sports. However, I do not think we lose this series.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It can't be a choke if we weren't supposed to be here to begin with.

Although you can argue that we are supposed to be here.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Oct 17, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying I believe either.

I just wouldn’t see this as a choke. I would see this as a successful first postseason appearance and leave me being more passionate and hungry then ever before.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Oct 17, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly I don't see us getting off the mat if we blow this one

We would become the face of all time choke jobs. We would be Bill Buckner. We will be be the NC State vs Houston. Point being this would be an epic collapse. It is not easy for teams to come back from that.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may believe that because you're a local fan.

I’m saying that the national opinion is that we aren’t supposed to be here. We true fans are the only ones who would view this as epic fail. Everyone else would say “Well they had a good run and weren’t ready”.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Oct 17, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe. I'm not going to try to mindread other people

I’m just going by win probabilities.

However, we still do have 2 games remaining and we hsould win one. I guess i shouldn’t talk about how much we choked until we actually finish the choke job.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

please tell me the computer projections for game 6

because that is why i love baseball so much.

Dude, I am not Tim McCarver. I don’t care about batting average or RBI. Etc. Y’all know the drill.

But occasionally this site starts waving its machete deep into the bush of statistical fundamentalism. Please don’t make this one of those times. It is October and there are no deals or projections to be made. It’s all about irrational human emotion at this point, so why not relax a bit and start worrying about what would be The Biggest Collapse Ever For You Because Of How You Feel As An Irrational Guy Who Likes Watching Baseball, as opposed to what would be the least likely baseball game loss according to whatever etc (and I acknowledge the validity of your number showing the shittiness of tonight’s loss).

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd everyone stop doubting us in here right now

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have confidence that we will win

But do not underestimate the total choke job we just pulled off. And do not underestimate the ramifications of it.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to have confidence

but I just don’t got it right now

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the way the rays have been hitting the past 4 games i still feel confident about the rays

shields is $$$ at home so i think it is over in game 6

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we sub Percy for Wheeler

Even Percy doesn’t suck that hard….

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont even suck that bad

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWAS EPIC

and I blame Maddon first.

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

explain what?

I watched it. I knew it sucked. Do we really need to fucking numerically rank it?

by calmer than you are on Oct 17, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the rays are up 3-2 in the ALCS against the boston red sox

enough said

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like our shot

I just odn’t like living in a vacuum. tonight was huge.

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Balfour and Wheeler

Need to throw something other than a fastball if they are going to see the mound against this series. Boston has both of them timed up perfectly.

by Schmidt on Oct 17, 2008 1:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeez, relax

Very tough game tonight, but you got Shields going at home next. Just get it done.

And your gonna need Wheels and Balfour to get through this, so hang with ’em.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Oct 17, 2008 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sleep....Relax.....Get ready for the next game.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG WE'RE GONNA LOSE

AND WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE FROM SADNESS AND PUPPIES AND KITTIES WILL STARVE AND THE WORD WILL BLOW UP AND WE’LL ALL GO TO HELL BECAUSE THIS WAS THE BIGGEST CHOKE JOB EVERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by steve-o1285 on Oct 17, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's only an epic choke job if we lose the next two games

Which I have a bad feeling of right now

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why? 2 of our best pitchers are going and our bats are hot

if we get up early at the trop then game over

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2004 Yankees on line 1

2007 Indians on line 2

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ws champs 2008 rays on line 3 for you

they are saying haha remember when we gave up 8 runs and everyone was like OMG its over and then we went out and beat the phillies to win the WS?

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

I really, really do. I’m just not feeling it right now. Maybe later, but just not now.

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am really confident in this team

just no so much in dan wheeler and gabe gross right now

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THE SUN WILL COME UP TOMOROW AND THERE IS STILL 2 MORE GAMES AND WE HAVE TO WIN 1.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 17, 2008 1:28 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

everyone dont post anything about us going to the ws until we clinch that spot

that really killed us tonight

when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!

by RaysOfHope on Oct 17, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

THIS x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 x 10^100

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be positive for the first time in this thread

The fact is we weren’t supposed to win tonight. We were the dog on the mound and we were playing in Fenway. We were happy taking it 3-2 back to the Trop. Losing a 7 run lead late hurt us all. But if we look at the facts we are exactly where we wanted to be. If we go back a week and asked everyone if we would be okay going back to the Trop up 3-2 99.999% of us would have been very happy with that scenario

by matthan on Oct 17, 2008 1:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're done

see yall in spring training

by atlantaray on Oct 17, 2008 1:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went for a drive after the loss

The first song to come on my iPod out of the 6000+ on there?

Bounce Back-Juvenile

by Big Worm on Oct 17, 2008 1:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck it. Let's get it done.

CAN I HAZ 5 MOAR WINZ AND A PRETTY TROPHY?!?!

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 17, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

far from over

as a hated boston sports fan, let me just say i’d much rather be in the rays position right now, up 3-2 and going home. i always thought this series would go to 7 games, although i did not think the games would be as horrible offensively for the sox as they have been.

these are two great teams playing some insane and memorable baseball!

by 808BostonFan on Oct 17, 2008 2:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel like I just got punched in the gut.

This was tough. But. Offense is clicking. Pitching other than tonights Bullpen is clicking and the crowd will be behind the Rays. Resiliency is the new theme to this post season. I almost cant watch game 6 though. I am going to be far away from a television on Saturday night. My nerves cant take this much longer.

by PewterPirate55 on Oct 17, 2008 2:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i still think we will win

but this game just pisses me off so much i don’t even want to watch game 6… fuck ‘big game james’… we had big game Kaz pitching shit hot in boston, BOSSMAN silencing the crowd in the 1st inning and Carlos cementing it with a BOMB off of their best pitcher so far… and then BOSSMAn cementing it AGAIN with a huge double…. i really really strongly disliked those last 3 innings… it was the inevitable happening and Maddon just sat there and pulled down his pants and bent over. fuck that so hard

by daveh33 on Oct 17, 2008 3:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All the media, the Red Sox, and a few of our fatalistic fans are forgetting one thing:

We have a Carlos Pena on our team. You think this loss gets to Carlos? I don’t think so….and he will make sure everybody is ready for Saturday. Remember that neither the Yankees nor the Indians had a Carlos Pena, but we do. Our own secret weapon of positivity that will erupt like a bomb over Tropicana Field this weekend.

by free hotdogs on Oct 17, 2008 4:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How does Balfour pitch

to Ortiz and Wheeler to Drew?

Makes no sense at all

Didn’t Miller strike out Ortiz the night before?

Weren’t there two outs when he hit the HR?

Isn’t that what a ‘sit’ LHP is for?

Don’t we carry 3 LHP on the playoff roster?

by sternfan1 on Oct 17, 2008 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Joe had the big dummy glasses on.

by SouthSideSox on Oct 17, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indians fan, Red Sux hater, and admirer of the Rays here. I think you have the collective SBN baseball nation, sans OTM, pulling for you. Hope your boys can finish the job.

Bad karma for changing the website’s banner during last night’s game… it didn’t go unnoticed, nor did the change back.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Oct 17, 2008 8:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RJ

RJ, I’ll end my boycott for just this moment. That has to have been the biggest clusterfuck in our lives. To allow 2 relievers to blow a 7 run lead with nine outs to go, well, “incompetent” isn’t a strong enough word to use to describe Joe’s performance. I won’t defend Wheeler, but why everyone focuses on the 8th when the RSox scored 4 in the 7th is beyond me. And I’ll be hating Joe forever now. Miller v. Ortiz, 1-11, and JP v. Ortiz 1-9. The Ortiz HR in the 7th is what gave them life and hope.

And if you see Joe, can you ask him why Mr. Perez is on the team. Thanks. I thought it was pinch running and defensive replacement and since CC and BJ won’t be replaced for defensive purposes, who is left? Perez gets that Pedroia ball that Gross decided to gift for a hit. Oh, and I hate Gabe Gross too. What an asshat. Gabe, big lead and you risk extra bases for a chance at the out, especially with 2 out and their big booper, long overdue for the HR, coming up.

And for what really bothers me, why save Shields? Joe is new at this postseason stuff, at least as manager, and so I wonder if he truly understands the difference between now and the regular season. You close out the damn clinching game out. You give the ball to Shields and tell him to get 9 outs before he gives up 7 runs. If he does his job, 3 inning save. And for any naysayers, if we can’t trust Shields to get 9 before he gives up 7, then what hope is there for Saturday? Home field isn’t worth that much.

Lastly, for those in a state of complete and utter denial, screw that shite about we should be happy up 3-2. Sorry, but wins are even more precious than outs, and you don’t, you simply don’t, give away a 7 run lead with nine outs to go in a seven game series. I’m not usually superstitious, but this has bad, bad, bad omen written all over it. And so, hopefully, the Furies are merely a myth, since if they exist, they are none too pleased with the Rays today.

Sorry, one more, but RJ, my first love, the Dodgers, well, I’m sure you are aware of the 2 2-run jacks. As bad as that was, the Dodgers pen would have still held a 7 run lead [as they gave up the four]. As I said, worst clusterfuck of our lives.

Even one more. For another thing you can say to Joe if you see him, well, please ask him why he walked Mr. Can’t Hit The Offspeed Stuff [Bay] in favor of Drew, who was either 3-6 or 4-7 against JP. Tell Joe that we can now make it 4-7 or 5-8. Lefty v lefty don’t mean squat when it’s 3-6 or 4-7. And as I always say, when Bay hits an offspeed pitch, please let me know.

Sorry, even more. But I do really hate Joe. To speak of 2 fellows not very happy right now. Joe, you were supposed to have their backs. Where in the fuck where you?

by ReggieSmith on Oct 17, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What makes that comment trollish?

He stated facts and stats, which this site lives by

I wholeheartedly agree—Balfour DOES NOT pitch to Ortiz in the 7th

by sternfan1 on Oct 17, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I apologize

I feel like it’s my fault you guys lost. I think I’m cursed – any team I root for will have terrible bullpen meltdowns. I’m a die-hard Mets fan, which should explain at least a part of that. But consider that the last time I rooted for a non-Mets team as much as I am for this Rays team was in 2001, for the Yankees (post 9/11, NY pride….I’ve despised them the rest of my life, before and since), and that was the year that Mariano blew the ONLY postseason save of his career, in Game 7 of the World Series. Then last night happened. I’m truly sorry…I’m not gonna watch anymore games, b/c I really want you guys to win it all, and you don’t need the Mets bad bullpen mojo.

by cjmulrain on Oct 17, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two examples to take heart from

1. The Pujols HR off Lidge in the 2005 NLCS. Everyone thought the Astros were cooked after being on the verge of clinching, yet they came out and won the next game and ended the series.

2. The Lightning’s loss to Philly in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals in 2004. Up 3 games to 2 and by a goal with less than a minute to go in Philly, the Lightning saw the Flyers tie it up and win in OT. The Bolts then returned home and took Game 7 two nights later, even though everyone thought they’d be shellshocked.

by SteveFL on Oct 17, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm Here to Tell You Number (1)

Except that Oswalt had to win in St. Louis—you guys have your ace at home.

Don’t hate the Sox, but as a sometimes-Marlin fan, I would like to see the Rays keep Florida’s MLB playoff series win streak intact. I had figured the Sox would win Thursday, so the ramifications just aren’t that big.

I’m still sure the Rays will win the series.

But, man, using Miller to face Ortiz in that spot has got to be the default position for ANY manager. If you DON’T use him there, you’ve got to tell us why. And Maddon is simply saying, “Ah, the irony.”

Miller got off to a horrible start for the ‘Stros last year. But I can remember times when Miller and his 6.00+ ERA was brought in to face Ryan Howard—and he’d get him, too.

But I don’t have to tell you this: you know Miller had a .235 BA against lefties in ’08.

I to be honest was asleep when Wheeler was getting his ass handed to him, so I’ll neither attack nor defend that part of it. But I can say this: if Miller gets Ortiz, it doesn’t matter what happens in the eighth.

Anyway, I’ll offer the go Rays mojo, but I don’t think you’ll need it. The fact that the Rays remain the better team will be enough.

Alright, time to deport Bourn.

by rastronomicals on Oct 17, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess Evan can’t field and chew gum.

Hahaha!!!!

by SouthSideSox on Oct 17, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

have fun with Juan Uribe faggot

by Big Worm on Oct 17, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

pwnt.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 17, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TBS

is a fuckin travesty. Their talkin about people in ‘Tampa’ dancing in the streets because of our victory, and it was only the 7th!!

Then they go and interview Chuck Fucking Lamar? that cursed us.

by Big Worm on Oct 17, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gah.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 17, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaMaritis.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 17, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can't celebrate before it's over

The Rays early celebration was cocky. Maybe it was karma?

by Scholar in Training on Oct 17, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it doesn't come back to haunt me

but part of me was rooting for boston to win because I won game 6 tickets. Now all I need is Shields to dominate like he should and I’ll be getting wasted in St. Pete in 36 hours.

by bejaman on Oct 17, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then you my friend

are one ‘self serbing asshole’

I never heard such a retarded comment

by sternfan1 on Oct 17, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what, couldn’t find a post on your trafficless blog to link in this comment?

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Oct 17, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going into the razor blade business

Everybody who’s in panic mode, please post your email addresses so I know how to get a hold of you. I’m going to make a killing selling razor blades to all of you on suicide watch, pun intended.

I hope the Rays aren’t panicking like the loads of idiots on this site. Calm the hell down. It was not a colossal meltdown. Your judgement of what happened is beyond cloudy. Hopefully, you’ve read the postgame comments from Maddon and you know why he did what he did. If even one of the BP guys had performed like they normally do, nobody would be questioning Maddon right now. This is beyond ridiculous.

by rayweaver on Oct 17, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed

Search

User Tools

Founded in 2005. DRaysBay is home to "Progressive statistical analysis and reasoned argument."
Start posting about the Rays »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Dsc00630_small
SIERA Quick Calculator

by B Ray about 15 hours ago

2 comments | 3 recs

Recent FanPosts

Small
Zobrist as Pena's follow up?

by nyyfaninlaaland 3 days ago

8 comments | 0 recs

39135485-59af19dbb26654095f910f34176af094_4ae8a81e-scaled_small
Predictions Group

by Brandon C. 3 days ago

0 comments | 0 recs

Dsc00630_small
OTTOTD 2/5/10: Crazy Catch and Fans Abroad

by B Ray 4 days ago

26 comments | 0 recs

4287_559112511892_1101386_33047121_2807872_n_small
Dioner Navarro Can't Hit?

by ZBW 5 days ago

9 comments | 0 recs

52376727_small
OTTOTD 2/4/10: An Open Letter of Apology to Bulls Basketball Fans

by rglass44 6 days ago

26 comments | 0 recs

Small
What would you give up for Adrian Gonzalez?

by td32 6 days ago

9 comments | 0 recs

Remer_small
The Tale of Two Cities... and a Stadium... how to make this work?

by thebaddancingraysfan 7 days ago

18 comments | 0 recs

Dsc00630_small
Green for Glitches

by B Ray 10 days ago

23 comments | 0 recs

Small
Question about WAR and strand rates

by _David_ 11 days ago

6 comments | 0 recs

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Recent Posts

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Another wallpaper I just made. :) Here's the full size: http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/thermagraphics/longo2.jpg If ya need smaller sizes lemme know.

by Thermacold about 1 hour ago 2 comments | 1 rec

Biggest Fastball Velocity Losses

by R.J. Anderson about 23 hours ago 7 comments | 0 recs

Rays alternate jersey

by R.J. Anderson 1 day ago 17 comments | 0 recs

A move for Posey?

by benderbrodriguez 2 days ago 0 comments | 0 recs

How Will Josh Freeman Fare in the Future?

by R.J. Anderson 5 days ago 9 comments | 0 recs

Really Early Cairo Projections

by R.J. Anderson 5 days ago 12 comments | 0 recs

The Holy Grail of Sabermetrics

by FreeZorilla 6 days ago 0 comments | 0 recs

MItch Lukevics on Matt Moore

by FreeZorilla 6 days ago 5 comments | 0 recs

Ken_Rosenthal: Gabe Gross in serious talks with A's.

by R.J. Anderson 10 days ago 13 comments | 0 recs

Zach Quate, rhp, Rays Born: Sept. 12, 1987. B-T: R-R. Ht.: 6-1. Wt.: 190....

by rglass44 10 days ago 4 comments | 0 recs

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

SBNation.com Recent Stories

New York Mets' David Wright connects for a single against the Arizona Diamondbacks during the first inning of a baseball game in Phoenix, Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009. (AP Photo/Matt York) link

Is This The Golden Age Of Third Basemen?

Beyond the Box Score

Oakland Athletics' Dana Eveland pitches against the Boston Red Sox in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, April 14, 2009, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Ben Margot) link

Blue Jays Acquire Dana Eveland

Bluebird Banter

FILE - In this July 19, 2009 file photo, Seattle Mariners' Erik Bedard pitches against the Cleveland Indians in the second inning of a baseball game in Cleveland. Bedard is having another surgery on his throwing shoulder, all but ending his season and perhaps his time with Seattle. Manager Don Wakamatsu said Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2009, that Bedard will have exploratory surgery on Friday in Los Angeles with Dr. Lewis Yocum, who removed a cyst from Bedard's shoulder in September. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan, File)

Injured Erik Bedard Signs One-Year Deal With Mariners

More from SBNation.com >

VPs of Baseball Operations

Roots_game_small R.J. Anderson

Raysring1_small Tommy Rancel

Zorilla_small FreeZorilla

Price_small Erik Hahmann

Editors

Mugshot__malcolm-x_small Andy Hellicksonstine

Ticket Account Executive

Rays_small Steve Slowinski

490f1289caa57andy_schleck_wins RZ