It's Kinda Like Picking Up an Extremely Hot Chick and Then Finding Out She Used to Be a Dude... the Morning After
A couple days ago I got an email. Not just any email, but one that promised to bring happiness, joy, and dancing fiddle cats.... I won the ALCS ticket lottery!!!
So today i woke up at 8am, skipped class, and patiently waited until 9am for the opportunity to buy tickets. 8:56am rolls around and i double check my internet connection, battery life, and index finger flexibility (for ultimate mouse-clicking ability). 9 o'clock rolls around, i insert my password and click search. Nothing is available in the upperdeck. 9:05am and i searched best available for two tickets for both games 1 and 2. After that failed, i even tried splitting my request. Still nothing.
Rather dissapointed, i called the trop and asked to speak with a manager of ticket sales in order to find out if there was a glitch or something. He informed me that both games were sold out.
Im sure this has happened to other people. I think the number of people that won the lottery and the number of actual seats available was at a very unfavorable ratio. The manager wouldnt give me an exact number, basically because "he didnt want to give me an answer that wasnt true". I dont know, this whole thing seems shady.
So i think the point of this post was:
a) it made me feel better
b) the hope that one of you will feel sorry for me and sell me tickets.
c) the hope that one of you will feel sorry for me and give me tickets.
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I feel for ya.
last week I got an email. Not just any email, but one that promised to bring happiness, joy, and ANGUS YOUNG…. I got a newsletter from the St. Pete Times Forum informing me that AC/DC tix were going on sale Saturday morning at 10am. I was ready and waiting to get my two tix, hopefully somewhere not on the otherside of the building from the stage. 10am hits and I search for tix. It was a 10 minute wait on Ticketmaster, and all they could give me were upper deck tix ON THE OTHERSIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM THE STAGE. I tried for 30 minutes to get something not in the 300’s and not on the side of/behind the stage. I gave up, taking it as a sign that it wasn’t meant to be. I know StubHub has the tix, but it isn’t worth it to me.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
same thing for me
I signed in at exactly 9 am and go nothing. It would seem it sold out in a matter of 3 minutes….because that is about how long my wait was before it told me there were no tickets availble. That seems strange to me…..but I guess it is what it is.
by free hotdogs on Oct 6, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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It appears that in addition to lottery winners, current season ticket holders ALSO get the opportunity to purchase lottery tickets (though they only get access to four). Luckily, I have a friend who had season tickets this year, and she was nice enough to pass me the e-mail so I could try to get tickets to the two games.
I was there at 9 to get tickets to games 1 and 2; by my own mistake however I ended up getting queued for game 2 first, a mistake that likely increased my likelyhood of getting tickets at all, I managed to get game 2 tickets, but failed to get game 1 tickets.
Here’s what I know about the lottery system so far:
1. The password given out to lottery winners is the SAME password, which means that anybody who has the password can buy tickets.
2. Season ticket holders have the option to buy tickets at the same time the lottery winners do, though they only have access to 4 tickets
3. Ticketmaster’s system that identifies ticket purchasers is not linked to the Rays lottery enrollment system, meaning that if I get a lotto draw and pass it to three of my friends, all four of us can order 8 tickets each using the same password.
In other words, this system is horribly, horribly flawed. There is no way for ticketmaster to identify if I actually won the lottery or not, if I was rightfully given a password by them or if it came from someone else, or if I am in queue more than once to buy tickets for a game if I am attempting to buy tickets for a game from more than one computer.
What they need to do is redesign this system so that the lottery does not guarantee that all tickets are sold (I’m willing to bet that they’re only drawing a few thousand names, but there are several thousand people trying to get tickets because the passwords are being passed around, and all a scalper needs is multiple computers to attempt to buy as many tickets as their wallets can handle). People who are buying tickets for the presale lottery are buying them from the Tropicana Field Box office ONLY, and give them scheduled times to call in so that they’re not overloaded. Their system ties to their lottery so that people who didn’t win the lottery are not entitled to a presale ticket, and anybody who wins the lottery is guaranteed at least 1 ticket.
Are you listening, Rays Front Office? I want to go to your games, but I’m not buying tickets from scalpers. Scalpers don’t buy hot dogs. They don’t buy beer. They don’t buy peanuts. They don’t buy Jerseys and Shirts, hats and stickers, flags and cowbells. Sell me a ticket. I buy stuff. By making tickets easier to obtain by scalpers who sell the tickets at triple-face value, you box me out, and I don’t impulse-buy merchandise at the stadium like I did for games 1 and 2 of the ALDS.
by kericr on Oct 6, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea there was only 1 password
now it makes sense.
Before you told me that I figured that maybe the rays (or major league baseball) purposely inflated the number of winners in order to guarantee a quick sellout. Or some other dumb conspiracy theory.
so now im not pissed about being cheated by my team, im pissed about their lack of foresight on the obvious issue that people will share/sell the password.
by Roc on Oct 6, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got off the phone with a secretary in the executive offices
she said every password was different
by Roc on Oct 6, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if there's multiple passwords, there isn't any tracking
At worst, the different passwords only act as keys to determine the ticket limit per game; I know that the 2nd chance password for the ALDS was the same for everyone. I can still use two computers to purchase games 1 and 2 at the same time (and if we get to the WS, that’s exactly what I’m going to do). I was able to get a 2nd computer in queue for game 1 tickets while I was still getting game 2 ones (though by then it was too late).
by kericr on Oct 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can have different browser windows on one computer
little bit easier…
by TallMatt on Oct 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I figured that out afterwards
I actually have both IE and Firefox on my computer, plus a virtual machine with IE, FF, and Google Chrome. I won’t be dealing with this problem during the WS, I got it covered.
by kericr on Oct 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't use chrome
It cost me valuable minutes, I’m sure. Kept mishandling the bloody “type out the two words that look like they went thru the washing machine” thing.
by AussieGriff on Oct 6, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Captcha?
Oh I know about the text issues (Chrome does not use Anti-Aliasing, or more commonly described as ‘text-smoothing’). I don’t use Chrome as my primary browser. I’ll more than likely use IE and FF and have a buddy follow on a 2nd machine for the other game.
by kericr on Oct 7, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah im pretty pissed too
i didnt get either tickets and was so thrilled about getting a password.
by HAHAHA OH WOW on Oct 6, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sucks
I’m also a victim…heh, anybody selling?
by steve-o1285 on Oct 6, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep no point in getting my hopes up for the second chance lottery if I even manage to win that
I thought I would be a lock, but by 9:05 everything was already gone. Everything I have heard is that the Rays are forced to follow MLB policy. This makes me not angry at the team, but as usual at Allan Selig. I am so sick of this guy that I will now and forever root against the Brewers. Nice job showing up in the playoffs Allan. I guess I will be saving a lot of money by not buying tickets for the game, beers at the game, and gas to get over there. I wish I could be there, but instead my local brewhaus will get my hard earned money, yells, and share in my enjoyment. In closing I just wanted to say yet again FUCK YOU ALLAN YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 6, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rays are just as much to blame!
The same thing that happened to others happened to me as well. It just doesn’t make any sense when I go on the moment the clock turns from 8:59 to 9:00 and there aren’t 2 tickets together for the games. The Rays obviously withhold lots of tickets to force people into buying season tickets for next year. They tell you this is the only way that guarantees you playoff tickets, talk about holding the fans hostage. Then when not enough people sign up for 2009, they release the remaining tickets they were holding, as evidenced by what they did for the earlier games. I understand they want to make as much money as possible, but this policy is complete bullshit. They’re alienating and pissing off a lot of true fans like myself who have been going to many games for years. Instead of sending out false hope to everyone, they should figure out exactly how many tickets they want to make available (which should be ALL of their unsold seats), and divide that number by 4 since everyone always buys the maximum. That way everyone who receives the e-mail is ACTUALLY guaranteed a seat and isn’t let down by the whole process. Sorry for the long post, it’s my first one, but this whole situation has really pissed me off!!
by Originalrayfan on Oct 6, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its best to withhold judgement on the team
until we figure out to what extent MLB has to do with the allotment.
but its hard when the Rays wont even clearly specify how much of a role they have in the lottery.
by Roc on Oct 6, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
We don’t know what kind of real demand was out there as far as how many thousands of people wanted tickets. You may have just simply missed out because so many people tried to get the tickets at the same time. I read elsewhere in Fanshots that one guy just kept trying and was able to get Game 2 tickets around 9:20am. I’d like to know how many people on this blog actually got tickets in addition to those who did not. That will possibly clue you in to whether or not you got screwed or were just unlucky.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it really doesnt matter
how many people signed up for the lottery. Regardless, there is no reason to have 10,000 tickets available and have more than 10,000 lottery winners. They know they are going to sell out, why not let the lottery winners have a REAL time frame to get tickets, and then let the tickets go on sale to the general public. Sure, the 10,000 tickets wouldnt all be bought by the winners, due to some forgetting, but they would still sell the tickets.
This is the problem that no one has an answer to
by Roc on Oct 6, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replace the phrase about holding fans hostage with extortion and I think I agree with just about all that you are saying.
It really isn’t right, but this is no different than the first round where I had to contribute to the inflation that is killing our economy by purchasing tickets on E-bay. To everyone that got tickets good job this isn’t aimed at you unless you loaded up on seat deposits with the explicit intention of scalping the tickets you got.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 6, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly my point!
If they are trying to win over fans, this isn’t how you do it. Especially the loyal ones. They need to come out and explain how the process works and how many tickets are available and quit trying to blame MLB for the headaches. Why send 10,000 e-mails out for 4,000 tickets, it completely baffles me.
by Originalrayfan on Oct 6, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but try using the reply button.
I know you are new it just makes it easier to follow the conversation.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 6, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
StubHub bastards as of 1pm
ALCS 1: over 2100 tix listed…mostly auctions…and way over face value
ALCS 2: over 2200 tix listed…mostly auctions…and way over face value
The AC/DC tix I mentioned in the first post…I found tons on StubHub within 30 minutes after they supposedly went on sale to the public. You just don’t know how many people are out there just to make a buck or who actually want to go to the games.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why we will see plenty of red sox fans at the trop (if we play them)
If your gonna scalp, at least do it in person at the game. I think selling tickets to fellow fans, and not adding to the emberassment of 30% of the trop painted an ugly shade of red, is worth not making as big of a profit.
(sell to me)
by Roc on Oct 6, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
StubHub Update 10/8
ALCS 1: over 1953 tix listed…mostly auctions…and way over face value
ALCS 2: over 3941 tix listed…mostly auctions…and way over face value
Almost 4000 tix for game 2….
by rayweaver on Oct 8, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What this really does is piss off the diehards who have followed the team since existence (which most of us have)...
It really pisses me off that bandwagoners are filling up the stadium for the playoffs, but hey what’s that saying? It is what it is. I totally agree with kercir that the system to purchase playoff tickets is flawed, but at least he was smart. He took advantage of the sysytem and used his friends (who has season tickets) password to buy tickets. Even if you didn’t get an email to buy doesn’t mean you couldn’t. At least I can say that I was able to go to the first ever playoff game, though going to the ALCS would have been SWEET! Se la vi,such is life.
by TheUltimateBucFan on Oct 6, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point I will take bandwagon, yuppie, bring your kids, and not have an idea what is going on fans
over GD Sux fans at the Trop. After a year of respectful back and forth, they are coming out of the woodwork and cocky as all getout. It seems like them beating up on the Angels (arguably the worst playoff team in the AL) has made them even more arrogant than normal. I hope that if we advance and they advance that we can kick their teeth in. Either way if that is the way the chips fall that series will be 10,000,000,000,000,000 times better than the World Series.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had mentioned before that I was considering scalping my tickets to an ALDS game because of their going rates
But now that I’ve gotten tickets through the system, I won’t do it simply out of principle. I’m angry at how things work, and I actually benefited from it. I shouldn’t have to dupe it in order to get tickets, it’s unfair to everyone.
If I get the opportunity to get WS tickets, I might just load up on them so I can broker them out to friends and fans at face value just to keep them away from scalpers (depending on how my bank balance looks, $1600 is a hefty chunk of change).
by kericr on Oct 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post reinforces a very important question:
Why are they continuing to cover the extra seats in the trop for the ALCS? This makes absolutely no sense. If demand for tickets is this high they could have easlily sold the extra tickets.
I would think this is the team’s decision, but it just doesn’t make any sense for them from an economic standpoint. That makes me think MLB may be the ones making the call.
The artist formerly known as TonyT
by acelion on Oct 6, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've heard bits and pieces on this subject, some on this site.
I thought I read something from Matt Silverman on here before implying that the seats that are covered are not good seats. I believe this is possibly because of the obstructed views the catwalks present, but I’m not sure. I’ve also heard that once you establish what your capacity is, that you can’t change it when you feel like it. That is a MLB rule.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silverman had said they're not good seats
He did say that some of the seats are obstructed view from the D-ring catwalk which is true, if you circle around the outfield and look up at that catwalk, the seats going both ways from section 300 about 4 or 5 sections over each way are visibly obstructed. the other seats seem to be tarped because they are at the same level as those seats if I recall correctly.
I’m not so sure about the second part of that though. The first year they did prime-game pricing they took the tarp off those seats for prime games against the Yanks and Sox. They stopped doing that about midway through the year because they weren’t selling out the stadium for those games so there was no need. My feelings were that removing those seats created more of a logistics issue because you now need extra labor to tend to 7000 extra customers; more asile vendors, more security, more cleanup crew, etc. I’d imagine you need at least 100 extra hands to handle that many extra people, and that’s nowhere near the general customer service rule of 1 employee for every 10 active customers.
by kericr on Oct 6, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for the tarped seats...
I remember this subject coming up a couple months ago, and I read that MLB doesn’t let you arbitrarily change your capacity once you’ve established it. MLB would have to give the team permission to change the capacity, which it might do for something like the World Series.
Maybe they uncovered the seats for some prime games because they didn’t know any better and then they got caught. Who knows…I do know that they have been tarped all year without exception.
And speaking of capacity…it’s been 35,000+ instead of 36,048 for the ALDS. I assume the missing 1,000 were tickets that were given away in conjunction with the new press section in the party deck.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if they're obstructed as long as I can be there
I’ve done standing room only at games and have sat behind a pole in Wrigley just to be there. If they’re crappy views, offer the seats at a discount. This ticket process has been crap.
What I’d love to see if a points process where fans can earn credits throughout the season. There would be a site you could go to and enter the isbn # from your game ticket (different points for different seating prices) as well as a way to get credit for merchandise purchased at the stadium ( get a card with a code to enter online at home) to receive points. Join the fanclub = x points. Have a kid and put them in Raymond’s Club = x points.
What we have here are people who haven’t been to a game all year swooping in, buying up tickets, and flipping them for a profit.
by Jason Collette on Oct 6, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now this just makes wayyy to much sense
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 6, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you tell I have a Marketing background?
I’ll compose a letter to the front office tonight while I’m playing Debate Bingo.
by Jason Collette on Oct 7, 2008 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing happen to me and can to a conclusion of how its set up.
Hey guys we all the big kick in the ass this morning. Got the password on Saturday afternoon and freaking excited and waited all weekend to be able to purchase tickets online. So while I was waiting around for my class to start I though of an idea of trying to use as many computers and try to get lucky on the theory of probability. Well that sh#t did not work either. My buddy and I both won the drawing this round, so on four computers this morning at exactly 9:00am I type in two different passwords for game 1 and game 2. What happen next was gay ticket master tell me I was 6 minutes behind, then 3 minutes, then back to 13 minutes (which was damm confusing) and still got zero tickets after trying a billion different combinations. So after some research this is my conclusion of how we all got f’d in the ass.
First, even know they look like different codes they are really all the same code to ticketmaster as stated before. So I could give my code to 10 other people and they could go on and purchase tickets and ticketmaster would have no idea. Because of this people took advantage of the system and were selling their code on ebay for $25 and $15 dollars as many times they wanted to.
Second, ticket hores (a.k.a scalpers, tickets brokers and all other ticket people) signed up all of their employees, family, friends, and hell even fake people for the drawing. So when tickets opened at 9am they had coded on their computer to purchase tickets. If you look at eBay and stubhub a lot of the tickets are together or all in the same row but different auctions for two tickets.
Another thing I found out from ticketmaster was that the faster your internet connection the quicker you could get in to purchase tickets. So all these ticketing website that sell upper deck outfield seat for 6 times the normal price could get tickets before other people, if they had a faster online connection. So the reason it would go from 3 to 14 to 6 to 10 minutes was because people had faster internet connections. There was really no such thing as “waiting place in line”
So after finding all this out IT JUST SUCKS!!! plain and simple a lot of true fans are either going to purchase tickets now for double or triple the price or have to watch the game at home because of the way things were done. I do not blame the Rays for this yet because MLB runs the show in the postseason, but there has to be a better way so when you get a important email about being able to purchase tickets for a playoff, that email has to hold its value. Because If I get selected for the World Series I probably wont even have a chance because of the way it is run by MLB, Ticketmaster, or possibly the Rays.
Sorry for the venting, but just a die heart fan that has not yet to see his team in the postseason because of stupid ticketing purposes.
by tampatony21 on Oct 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well damn
i got out technologied……i have a better idea for the Trop. How about anybody signed up on DRays Bay gets first dibs from now on?
by free hotdogs on Oct 6, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now more than ever I feel grateful.
I always bought tickets a month or two in advance, but back in May, the box office wouldn’t sell me the seats I wanted anymore. When I would go to the games later, I would see the seats I wanted to buy, and they were empty, or worse, someone that got online an hour before the game was able to buy them. So I went to the Ticket Sales office at the Trop to complain. I learned that the seats I wanted were blocked out for the 6-game plans. I was then introduced to the half season ticket plan. I bought a prorated weekend plan back in July that had about 15 games left on the schedule, which was just a little more than I had planned to attend for the rest of the season. I didn’t want to go to all of the games I had tickets for. I was able to trade in unused tickets from missed/past games for other games, and I was able to trade in tickets for future games for different games. I also sold some tickets to a friend. The only reason I bought this plan versus the 6-game plan was that it guaranteed me posteseason seats. Although this does nobody any good this year, some of you may consider doing like I did and maybe once the Rays look postseason bound next year, you can get in on a prorated half-season ticket plan with some friends and have rights to postseason tickets without going though all of the obstacles.
by rayweaver on Oct 6, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget the online registration next year....
(because you know we’re coming back next year)
Let’s have folks sign up at the Trop.
One registration per person per home game allowed.
You go to 81 home games, you get 81 entries into the lottery (OK sure you’re probably a season ticket holder anyway). You go to one home game, you’ve still got a chance.
And if you’re a dirty mother whore scalper from Connecticut or Arizona or Los Angeles or wherever the hell else the tickets on eBay are selling from, and has never set foot inside our hallowed dome, you don’t get an entry.
Rayweaver I agree with you, season ticket holders and mini-plan holders should get an advantage – and I think this option provides it. No guarantees, mind you, but just by being at more games you get a better shot.
/rant.
Go Rays! And Go Balf! What a K!
by AussieGriff on Oct 6, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Bucs attempted to curb scalpers last year by locking down ticket purchases to within the state of Florida only
About the only thing the organization did right in the last 3 years, too bad they had already built up far too much ill will to have it appreciated, they had to open up purchasing outside of Florida in the last 48 hours to get a sellout.
I wish the Rays would do the same thing, they wouldn’t have this problem. Not in the least.
by kericr on Oct 7, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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