Red Sox vs. Rays
by thebaddancingraysfan
on Oct 7, 2008 6:26 AM EDT
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And so it comes down to this, for the American league championship the Tampa Bay Rays take on the Boston Red Sox. The Rays are all too familiar with there northern AL East brethren, having beaten them 10 times out 18 games played.
The Boston Red Sox have history, they have a crappy stadium, and Ben Afllack. The Rays have a young history, a crappy stadium, and Dick Vitale. I think Vitale is the better actor between the two, to be honest.
I shouldn't have to say much else. This four game series is in my my eyes as nothing more then yet another obstacle for the Rays to overcome. They have proven that they have been the better team all year. The Rays have proven they can been Boston in there building. The Rays have proven they can beat Papelbon. What have the Red Sox proven?
Time Capsule: April 25, 2008. This was the Rays first victory of the year against the Red Sox. You may remember this game because of the game winning hit by Nathan Haynes.
| Red Sox 4 15-10 Lost 3 1st Terry Francona |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 R H E
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Red Sox 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4 10 1
Rays 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 11 0
W: S Dohmann (1-0), L: M Timlin (2-2)
Winning Run scored with 0 outs
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Rays 5 12-11 Won 4 3rd, 2 GB Joe Maddon |
BATTING
Boston Red Sox AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit PO A Details J Ellsbury CF 5 0 1 1 0 0 .284 .873 18 6 0 SH D Pedroia 2B 6 0 1 0 0 0 .340 .862 21 0 4 D Ortiz DH 6 0 0 0 0 1 .177 .611 23 0 0 GDP M Ramirez LF 5 1 3 0 0 1 .370 1.116 17 2 0 2B K Youkilis 3B-1B 4 0 0 0 1 1 .330 .936 22 8 1 J Drew RF 4 2 1 0 1 2 .282 .825 21 3 0 S Casey 1B 0 1 0 0 1 0 .346 .886 7 1 0 J Lowrie 3B 3 0 1 0 1 0 .346 .841 17 4 1 J Lugo SS 4 0 0 2 1 1 .306 .685 19 2 1 GDP K Cash C 3 0 3 1 0 0 .323 .790 13 2 1 SF C Crisp PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 .341 .794 0 0 J Varitek C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262 .800 4 2 0 HBP T Wakefield P 0 1 D Aardsma P 0 0 B Corey P 0 0 J Lopez P 0 0 M Timlin P 0 1 Totals 40 4 10 4 5 6 182 30 10BATTING 2B: M Ramirez (9, off M Garza). SF: K Cash (1, off M Garza). SH: J Ellsbury (1, off G Glover). HBP: J Varitek (1, by G Glover). TB: M Ramirez 4; K Cash 3; J Lowrie; J Drew; D Pedroia; J Ellsbury. GIDP: J Lugo (6); D Ortiz (8). RBI: J Lugo 2 (7); J Ellsbury (10); K Cash (3). 2-out RBI: J Ellsbury. Team LOB: 11. With RISP: 2 for 11. FIELDING DP: 1. J Lowrie-K Youkilis. PB: K Cash (4). E: J Lugo (7).
Tampa Bay Rays AB R H RBI BB SO BA OPS Pit PO A Details A Iwamura 2B 5 1 2 0 1 0 .220 .525 25 2 1 SB C Crawford LF 6 3 3 1 0 1 .314 .765 24 4 0 2·3B,SB B Upton CF 3 0 1 1 2 0 .298 .807 23 3 0 CS,SF J Gomes DH 3 1 0 0 0 1 .265 .863 14 0 0 HBP C Pena PH 1 0 1 0 0 0 .200 .781 4 0 0 N Haynes PR-DH 1 0 1 1 0 0 .278 .594 2 0 0 E Longoria 3B 3 0 1 1 2 0 .286 .952 28 2 1 SB,IW E Hinske 1B 3 0 0 0 2 0 .306 1.055 26 8 1 D Navarro C 5 0 1 0 0 1 .391 .918 26 6 0 G Gross RF 4 0 1 0 1 1 .200 .609 18 5 0 J Bartlett SS 5 0 0 0 0 0 .208 .472 14 2 5 M Garza P 0 0 J Howell P 0 0 D Wheeler P 0 0 T Miller P 0 0 G Glover P 0 1 S Dohmann P 1 0 Totals 39 5 11 4 8 4 204 33 9BATTING 3B: C Crawford 2 (3, 2 off T Wakefield). SF: B Upton (2, off T Wakefield). IBB: E Longoria (1, by B Corey). HBP: J Gomes (4, by T Wakefield). TB: C Crawford 7; A Iwamura 2; E Longoria; G Gross; B Upton; D Navarro; N Haynes; C Pena. RBI: C Crawford (12); N Haynes (3); E Longoria (9); B Upton (18). 2-out RBI: E Longoria; C Crawford. Team LOB: 14. With RISP: 2 for 11. FIELDING DP: 2. E Hinske-J Bartlett-S Dohmann; J Bartlett-A Iwamura-E Hinske. BASERUNNING SB: A Iwamura (2, 2nd base off T Wakefield/K Cash); C Crawford (8, 2nd base off M Timlin/J Varitek); E Longoria (2, 2nd base off T Wakefield/K Cash). CS: B Upton (4, 3rd base by T Wakefield/K Cash).
PITCHING
Boston Red Sox IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA T Wakefield 6 6 4 3 5 1 0 4.06 30 113-70 45· 3·22 7·10· 6· 0 42 - 1.40 -0.14 D Aardsma 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.29 3 17-10 8· 0· 2 1· 1· 0· 0 0-0 1.18 0.09 B Corey 1.2 2 0 0 2 1 0 10.50 8 25-13 7· 2· 4 1· 2· 2· 0 0-0 2.90 0.09 J Lopez 0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 4.50 3 10-8 6· 1· 1 1· 1· 0· 0 3-0 3.95 0.16 M Timlin, L (2-2) 0.2 2 1 1 1 0 0 13.50 5 25-13 10· 2· 1 1· 1· 2· 0 1-0 2.74 -0.22 Totals 10 11 5 4 8 4 0 49 190-114 76· 8·30 11·15·10· 0 4-0
Tampa Bay Rays IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit-Str Ct·Sw·Lk GB·FB·LD· ? GmSc IR-IS LevI WPA M Garza 5 5 3 3 3 1 0 7.62 23 84-49 30· 4·15 3·11· 5· 0 43 - 1.13 -0.06 J Howell, BS (1) 3 3 1 1 0 3 0 2.63 12 46-27 16· 3· 8 3· 3· 3· 0 0-0 1.75 0.11 D Wheeler 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1.38 5 25-16 9· 5· 2 2· 2· 0· 0 0-0 3.61 0.14 T Miller 0.1 0 0 0 2 1 0 2.57 3 16-6 1· 0· 5 0· 0· 0· 0 0-0 2.97 -0.08 G Glover 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.69 4 9-7 4· 0· 3 2· 0· 1· 0 2-0 3.41 0.04 S Dohmann, W (1-0) 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.45 1 2-1 1· 0· 0 1· 0· 0· 0 2-0 4.97 0.32 Totals 11 10 4 4 5 6 0 48 182-106 61·12·33 11·16· 9· 0 4-0Balks: None. WP: T Wakefield (3). IBB: B Corey (1; E Longoria). HBP: T Wakefield (4; J Gomes); G Glover (1; J Varitek).
OTHER
Umpires: HP - Mike Estabrook, 1B - Dan Iassogna, 2B - Dale Scott, 3B - Rob Drake. Time of Game: 4:00. Attendance: 30,290. Weather: 72° F, In Dome.
So Draysbay, what do you think will happen? Will the Rays continue to shine or will the Red Sox come and prove that vetern leadership (being old) means something?
Go Rays! Be the Best!
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I was at this game. So Awesome.
On one other note:
Is it any coincidence that every team in this area that has shown recent success (The Rays, Bucs, and Bulls) all have one thing in common – excellent defense (or a team built around defense, the Bucs defense this year isn’t statistically great)? The one team that has struggled (The Lightning) built an identity on offense instead?
by kericr on
Oct 7, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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Ummm What?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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What about that do you not understand?
Good Tampa Bay Teams all have teams built on defense
The Lightning were the worst team in the league last year, and don’t kid yourself if you think they were good the year before that either, scraping into the playoffs as the #8 seed is not in my eyes a good team.
by kericr on
Oct 7, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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The Lightning thing threw me off, but I think I get you now
Another thing that confused me is that the Bucs and Lightning won top honors whereas USF hasn’t won anything of importance.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm not talking about championships
Just competitiveness.
And I know we’re only 2 games into the season, but the Bolts looked damn awful in Prague.
by kericr on
Oct 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
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It's going to take a while for the NHL hit show to work out if it does
I’m against going out and getting a bunch of free agents regardless of the sport. Our defense does not look good, the MVP line are the only guys that have played together, but our goaltending has looked good so far. It could be a long season or we could be a pleasant surprise, but I do not see us dominating anybody.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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When the Lightning won the cup it was because Tortorella's offense could beat the pre-lockout NHL trap-defenses.
When the rules after the lockout changed the offense losts the edge it had and didn’t focus enough on defense.
The Lightning were horrible at moving the puck and generating any sort of offensive pressure over in Prague, we just picked up a decent defensemen from the Canucks, I will let them play a few games back at home before I pass judgement. Remember the Lightning started 3-0 last year any everyone thought that they were “back”. Give them a month or so and then check how they are playing.
by twenty5psi on
Oct 7, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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I'm expecting them to start off slow
Then when they develop some chemistry and familiarity make a run for a playoff spot late in the season
by rays1234 on
Oct 7, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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Again, I am talking about the last year or two, tops.
I know the 04 team was built upon a high-pressure offense, but that’s too far back for my comparison.
And I am giving them time. I said they looked awful in Prague, not something that shows no patience, such as ’They’ve looked awful all season.’
In game one, this team looked like it had the capability to completely lay waste to an opponent if the opponent made enough mistakes and the goalie didn’t stand on their head. The Bolts had so many breakaways in the first period of game one that if Lundqvist wasn’t playing God, the Rangers would have went into the 1st intermission down 5-0. Game 2 was rough, and that just shows the team has work to do; I didn’t catch enough of the 2nd game to make a judgement call, but the early schedule favors them getitng things straightened out.
by kericr on
Oct 7, 2008 11:42 PM EDT
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So many people think this will go 7
I say the Rays take it in 6 games.
by joeybw on
Oct 7, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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You could not be more wrong
JK
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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I wonder
how much of an advantage the weather will be for Boston when they’re at home. A lot of native southerners and Californians on the Rays squad, and the temps will probably be in the 40’s and 50’s.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Oct 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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i dont think it will affect them too much
the rays have overcome alot this year and i dont think weather will be a thing that will stop them
maybe we will see a reappearance of ninja bossman lol
YOUR 2008 AL EAST DIVISION CHAMPIONS.... THE TAMPA BAY RAYS!!!
by RaysOfHope on
Oct 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
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This man would have you dead before you even knew what happened
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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All I see is a picture of a crowd at Yankees stadium.
by kericr on
Oct 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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Nice
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
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the past 2 games bossman has been amazing
i think he may have found some type of healing power with his beejus powers
so who is going to be MVP of this series? bossman or pena or longoria?
im going to go with pena, he has owned boston this year
YOUR 2008 AL EAST DIVISION CHAMPIONS.... THE TAMPA BAY RAYS!!!
by RaysOfHope on
Oct 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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Shields
or get ready for this
DAVID PRICE
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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That would be so awesome.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on
Oct 7, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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NINJA BEEEEEEEEEJ
He needs to reappear this series.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on
Oct 7, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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Hmm, weird.
No one voted for a sweep, by the Sox OR the Rays. I do have a feeeling this will be a great series. May the best team win :)
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on
Oct 7, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
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Send in the Clowns
Any guesses on who we get out of this hodge-podge?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 7, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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Get ready for a BOSTON BEATDOWN!!!!
Good to see that you Rays fans come out of the woodworks. You are sooo blind about the beating that you are about to get!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy! Sox in 4, maybe 5!
by BostonRedSoxFan on
Oct 7, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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Is that best you got?
You want to talk about woodworks? You are the first fan base came along with a craptastic movie also known as “Fever Pitch.” Seriously. If the beating is anything like the season series then the your sox lose in 5 games. The only reason why I give the Red Sox one game because your “fan base” will probably pull the alarm of the hotel the Rays are staying at like they did last year.
The will win because they are better, healthier, and quicker then the Sox. I look forward to watching the Rays drive the dagger in the Red Sox heart by celebrating their first World Series birth in that crappy park known as Fenway.
Over the years I have sat back and listened to your fan base too their own horn. Well guess what? The times have changed my friends. Your team isn’t loveable, nor young, or for that matter amazing.
In my opinion, the Boston Red Sox are one of the worst franchises in the major league sports. We could talk about fair weather fans, that could one point. Yes, I know the Rays have them as well. Or does it count that the fans we have now rooted for the Red Sox up until about September 24th? The Red Sox fans for years accepted mediocrity and hiding behind a damn curse. Lastly, the Red Sox were the last franchise to hire black ball players. You want talk about pathetic? Start no place other then the team that plays on Yawkey.
One last note: I heard time and time again the Red Sox fans constantly say “If the Sawks just win one, I will die happy.” Well, guess what, you owe somebody big time!
Good luck pal, you are going to need it.
"I tell you what? It doesn't suck!" - Jonny Gomes
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Oct 7, 2008 6:19 PM EDT
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You exploded that much over that little comment?
Well how do you think we Sox fans should feel about this: http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/10/7/629930/lowrie-forces-angels-to-wa#comments
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on
Oct 7, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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Sox have no chance. Their time is up.
Papi’s old. Manny’s gone. Bay’s going to falter sooner or later.
Rays in 7, practically speaking.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on
Oct 7, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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What exactly do you want me to react to on your link?
I am just stating simply, that I am tired of the damn sox. I am tired of the damn “Nation.” I have been plenty of places around this country, and I can tell you that the “nation” is just another word for bandwagon. I can’t stand the Red Sox, I haven’t be able to stand them for quite some time. Once upon a time, i didn’t always have a disdain for the Red Sox. In Fact growing up I like Mike Greenwell. I thought he was awesome. But, I grew up and I move to Tampa and now I love my home team. that “TB” stands for my home town. A home town that has been the ass of jokes in the baseball world for too damn long. I am tired of it.
I know MOST of you on Over the Moster of classy fans and know A LOT about baseball. I resepct that. However, I don’t like the Red Sox, and will not.
"I tell you what? It doesn't suck!" - Jonny Gomes
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Oct 7, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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Thank you for clarifying.
It was really rhetorical.
Yeah. most of us on OTM are pretty loyal fans, but right about now there will be a few bandwagoners who will make a quick account and try and blend in on the site.
No team is perfect, no team has all completely royal fans. If you thought your team was like that, then you are wrong. Of course there have been more Red Sox fans because we have been winning. Of course there will be more Rays fans becasue they are winning. Nobody can stop them.
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on
Oct 8, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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"Lastly, the Red Sox were the last franchise to hire black ball players"
Well, technically, all the teams that came in the 60s or later were after the Sox to sign african-americans. I get your point, though, at the time.
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on
Oct 8, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Wow, Really?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on
Oct 8, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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You know, it hard to be irritated when your points kind of make me smile.
Funny, yes. Could please refrain from being comical. Thank you.
"I tell you what? It doesn't suck!" - Jonny Gomes
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Oct 8, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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sox in 4 or 5? is that how many innings beckett is going to last?
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by RaysOfHope on
Oct 7, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Number of HRs allowed.
The road to hell is paved with Mariners.
by Taylor H on
Oct 7, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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