Annoying Media Trend: Ignoring Andrew Friedman

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 11:07 AM EDT Comment 60 comments

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Simple oversight or would TBS (and the rest of the media) rather not describe the lovable and fun Rays as a "sabermetric" team? Quantitative analysis seems like a four letter word to most people in the media.

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It is amazing the lack of credit the FO is receiving...

The only mention of the FO at all is talking about how low the payroll is, and how they build through the draft.

Then you get a moron like Harold Reynolds(who I actually like, but he is a moron) talking about all the highly drafted guys on the roster, and makes it sound like they are all #1 picks.

Hell 5 of the starting 9 on the field yesterday were acquired through FA or trades(6 of 10 when you include Floyd at DH).

by td32 on Oct 7, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the greatest was

when Reynolds basically said Crawford stole 2nd because we drafted him early and paid him a lot.

I didn’t know being drafted early gives you more speed!

by joeybw on Oct 7, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked Reynolds when he was covering the Little League World Series.

He found his calling there, he should stick to covering 12 year olds.

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by SeanDubbs on Oct 7, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he should stick to covering 12 year olds.

Michael Jackson did.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

too soon

by gatorbait on Oct 7, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

....

by rglass44 on Oct 7, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Dear God

Halloween Horror Nights wishes their employees were this scary

by steve-o1285 on Oct 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Then you get a moron like Harold Reynolds (who I actually like, but he is a moron)"

I agree with this statement. He isn’t too insightful, but he’s still a step ahead of the pompous blowhards on the FOX broadcasts or the conceited retardedness of Joe Morgan or incoherent drunkeness of Rick Sutcliffe.

Plus, someone has to offset Orsillo’s deadpan by filling the clownish sidekick role usually held by Jerry Remy.

Speaking of which, Orsillo better not be an announcer for the ALCS. If he is, Magrane better be in the booth as color commentator.

by RATW on Oct 7, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Caray and Martinez are the announcers for the CS.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UGHHH

Say it ain’t so. We’re about to get Bucked

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 7, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

A trade for Gary Thorne would be nice, but I guess he is doing ESPN radio.

Speaking of which, the quality of MLB’s national TV coverage has steadily deteriorated since 1989 when they left ABC with Thorne, Al Michaels and Jim Palmer and the long baseball tradition of NBC with Vin Scully / Garagiola / Costas for CBS $,$$$,$$$,$$$. CBS was decent (Stockton/Kaat/McDonough/Jack Buck) once the playoffs rolled around but otherwise sporadic, then the ABC/NBC “Baseball Network” setup failed due to the strike and since then FOX has just been unbearable on all levels.

For the future, we’ll probably see less and less of baseball on ESPN once the MLB Network launches; almost certainly no more “Baseball Tonight” once their contract expires. I guess that leaves more time for insidious soccer, WNBA or Brett Favre retirements.

Now you kids get off my lawn.

by RATW on Oct 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's okay

If we survive we get Joe Buck and Tim McGarver!! Oh Joy!!

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

/sarcasm

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone think we'll get Scully for a game if the Dodgers make the WS?

I would be disgusted if that doesn’t happen.

by rglass44 on Oct 7, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It made me laugh

at all the attention they have to the catwalks

I’ve seen every game there on TV for several years, and it so rarely comes into play, it should be a non-issue

by sternfan1 on Oct 7, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Unless your name is Epstein

no FO is mentioned too much, except for Cashman and that’s for the wrong reasons

by sternfan1 on Oct 7, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ricciardi thinks players are lazy

It gives all GMs a bad name

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 7, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least Joe Morgan isn't calling games

He shoots sabrematricians on sight

by atlantaray on Oct 7, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He will be here

On ESPN Radio. Yes, Joe Morgan I believe will be here along with Jon Miller.

Joe

by joedobr on Oct 7, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's almost tempting to tune in to espn radio to hear what joe morgan has to say about us. i remember him saying we can't win because of our stadium

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if he'll know anything about the Rays

What’s the under/over on number of Fred McGriff/Wade Boggs/Floriday Marlins references?

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 7, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Orsillo

I didn’t find that bad now. He ususally plays a different role with Remy since there is more “comedy” on NESN, but at least Orsillo broadcasted 18 Rays games this year,

Now its on to Buck “Perfection” Martinez and Chip Caray along with Ron Darling. I hope there isn’t any bias. Martinez should know, he has his morning XM show and does a lot of business in north Pinellas.

Joe

by joedobr on Oct 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He lives in Palm Harbor

but he never gives much love to the Rays, don’t know why, except maybe because he’s the O’s announcer sometimes

I’ve called him many times and he had been rather negative toward the Rays

by sternfan1 on Oct 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Buck Martinez is good. Chip Caray has the most annoying voice ever. And Ron Darling is one of hte best in the business.

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They'll drop the sabermetrics bombshell during the World Series

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

by Orlando Rays on Oct 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Awards

Friedman will pick an award or two in the postseason. Ditto with Maddon.

by billso on Oct 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Here's to BenZo googling himself...

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh. Dear.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Smoooooooth

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Oct 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He uses a lot of addons

where’s the walk on water extension?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 7, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha.

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reynolds? Sabermetrics?

Did you really expect those rejects to talk about that?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

On an OT subject for a second

I’ve gotta say i love the new slogan for the site. However, I think it would get the point across best if “bitches” was added to the end of the statement.

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Oct 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Not sure if SBN would approve of that.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

:-(

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Oct 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Annoying Blog Trend:

1. fiddle cats
2. sucking up to Andrew Friedman
3. snarky?

by davidsmarch on Oct 7, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Talk about me, my family, the site, talk about my writing, but Fiddle Cat is off-limits.

Do not make this mistake again.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sometimes it's good to miss long by two feet when everyone else is missing short by ten feet

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 7, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WTF?

Damn dude

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Oct 7, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/7/629946/today-s-fun-fact

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Mariners might boast the highest ratio of fan intelligence to organization intelligence

Anyone else close? And which team would be at the opposite end?

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 7, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boston?

by walkoffwalk on Oct 7, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anaheim?

by RATW on Oct 7, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yanks

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Oct 7, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

America?

by kericr on Oct 7, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

rec

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 8, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baltimore up until this year

Pittsburgh up until this year, Cincy still (if you could divide by zero), San Fran, There are quite a few bad FO’s in baseball, but that number is getting smaller year-to-year which makes winning even better.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 8, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Brickhaus on Oct 8, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No please

by rglass44 on Oct 9, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The SP Times Reads draysbay.com

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/article843555.ece

by kericr on Oct 8, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

By and large, Friedman gets lumped into the Moneyball disciples who have turned statistical analysis into an art form. And yes, there is a lot of that going on. But Friedman is more than that. He’s an information gatherer with a good instincts. And when it comes to stretching a dollar, the government should be on the phone asking for tips.

Because Billy Beane has never made financially savvy moves.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 8, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs