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Rays futures bettors in Vegas can make mucho dinero.

The Tampa Bay Rays are a great story for baseball, but they are a potential nightmare for bookmakers.

 

The Rays’ rags-to-riches tale holds great jeopardy for bookmakers.

 

Jay Kornegay and his staff at the Las Vegas Hilton sportsbook thought nothing of putting the Rays’ World Series odds up at 200-1 before the season.

 

And why not?

 

After all, the Rays had never won more than 70 games during their previous 10-year history. They averaged a puny 64.5 victories prior to this season.

 

But now through 150 games, the Rays are 90-70 and leading the American League Eastern Division.

 

“Usually we need the favorite in the futures,” said Kornegay, the race and sportsbook director at the Hilton.

 

That’s the case again this season. The New York Yankees missing the playoffs for the first time in 13 years is bad for bookmakers because they opened the Yankees with very low odds.

 

Open a team at 200-1 and liability can add up real fast. Every 10 years or so bookmakers get blindsided by a long shot underdog. Nevada sportsbooks lost millions in 1999 when the St. Louis Rams came out of nowhere to win the Super Bowl despite losing their starting quarterback, Trent Green, during preseason.

 

Before that, in 1991, Nevada bookmakers lost in the $15-20 million range when the Minnesota Twins beat the Atlanta Braves in the World Series. Both were 100-1 shots.

 

No team draws more money to win the World Series than the Chicago Cubs. So not only are bookmakers rooting against the Rays, but they also are trying to dodge a bullet on the Cubs.

 

The house has history on their side. The Cubs last won a World Series a century ago. They haven’t even been in a World Series since 1945.

 

But that doesn’t mean bookmakers aren’t going to do some heavy sweating. The Cubs have a long gory history of choking, but they also have the best record in the National League.

 

They clearly are the best team in the National League. In a short series, though, the best team doesn’t always win.

 

Like every sportsbook, the Hilton opened the Cubs with fairly low odds at 12-1. That didn’t keep the large Cubs fan base from backing their team like they do every season. It’s become a rite of passage every spring in Las Vegas – betting the Cubs on the future book.

 

“The number of tickets and volume on the Cubs has created liability,” Kornegay said.

 

Anybody for a Rays-Cubs World Series? Now that would be bizarre.

 

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I wish I had put a few bones on those odds.

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

by Orlando Rays on Oct 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would make paying for MLB's pro-scalper policies a lot easier.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 8, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember someone

came on a few months ago who said they put $100 on the Rays to win the WS at 175-1 odds.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Oct 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah i do too

where is this guy?

by daveh33 on Oct 8, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I put 500 dollars down on 150 odds

and yeah that was me that said that. Its for real, and to be honest im about to kill myself over this series and possibly the next.

by Jombari on Oct 8, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

have faith dude

they’ve come this far.

by daveh33 on Oct 9, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here he is

WS 175:1 $60 to win $10,500
AL Pennant 95:1 $300 to win $32,110
O/U 72 wins 2:1 $410 to win $410

I tattooed their old logo on my back at the end of last year. I love this team!

by Kenny845 on Oct 9, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you've already covered your bets

and if we win the series drinks are on you?

by rglass44 on Oct 9, 2008 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude...

This last three days has been torture..Lets get this series started already!!!

by Kenny845 on Oct 9, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I put 10 bucks down

on bodog.com at the beginning of the season…Now i’m wishing I would have put more down. But Bodog only gave me 100:1 odds…damn

At least it will pay for most of my postseason ticket package though.

"I like to astral travel"

by UFfitz56 on Oct 9, 2008 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bodog has horrible odds generally

They don’t adjust their lines that quickly, so they just have a gimongous spread. Not a fan of that site generally.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree

One of the few poker/sportsbook sites you can still get your money out of though

"I like to astral travel"

by UFfitz56 on Oct 9, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FAIL

at reply

"I like to astral travel"

by UFfitz56 on Oct 9, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They do make it tough

5* Rollover on that over/under. I can’t collect that without betting a ton more..and you know what?? I don’t want to bet anymore!

If the pennant and WS bets come through I need to bet $900 more just to withdraw my money too!

I tell you, I only got into this for this season because they vastly underestimated the Rays. But it has been a hassle. No doubt that it has been annoying.

by Kenny845 on Oct 9, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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