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DRaysBay is nearing its fourth year on the internets and coming off of its most successful season yet. These next few weeks will involve some change however. Patrick L. Kennedy, who served as "owner" this season, has to take an extended leave of absence due to academic work. I'm also feeling the strains of academia, but I will remain on board, however, not as the owner.

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Instead I would like to introduce to the reader base and welcome a good friend of mine, Tommy Rancel, as the new owner of DRaysBay. I've known Tommy for quite a while now, and he's easily been the most underappreciated Rays blogger around. Not only will his content and personality mesh well with what we all ready have going, but for the first time in a long time DRB is going to have a sense of reliability from the ownership position that's been missing for most of its life. Joining myself as a senior editor will be Erik Hahmann.

To be concise: the former "OutsPerSwing" staff will be merging with DRaysBay's current staff to form the new DRaysBay. Not much is planned to change outside of adding some excellent talent to the existing core, but at this time we do feel it's necessary to reintroduce, and begin enforcing, our community guidelines a little more strictly. This site has reached the point where we're no longer a secret, but rather a community, and a level of professionalism is required from the writers as well as the readers. Which is why we extend the following guidelines to try and make this site even better:


Keep an open mind
.  Everyone is going to be wrong sometimes.  Instead of defending your point of view incessantly, just move on, and maybe even admit you're wrong.  That's a great way to earn the respect of other users, by the way.

You can disagree with everything and everyone, as long as you don't make it personal and you back up your arguments with logic.  Logic does not include excessive capitals, ad hominem attacks, cliches, or quotes from ESPN "experts".

We like numbers.  Love 'em, in fact.  If you are not familiar with sabermetrics, we encourage you to stick around and learn something.  If you disagree with an argument made using statistics, make sure you understand the methodology before disagreeing with the results.  Asking questions is a great way to advance both the discussion and your understanding of sabermetrics.  We also realize that numbers aren't perfect and are always looking to improve them.

Keep the language PG13.  Sure, we've heard and seen it all, but most comments that rely on colorful language aren't worth posting anyway.  We are especially intolerant of ignorance -- racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. Note: gameday threads are the exception.

No babe/hunk photos. No exceptions. No .gifs. No links.

We love user-generated content.  We welcome links to any and all articles you think are worth discussing, including your own, via FanShots.  Use FanPosts for any in-depth content that doesn't make sense as a comment in someone else's article. If your FanPost consists of mostly filler, it is subject to being deleted. 75 words is not difficult. Seriously.

Use proper spelling, grammar, and capitalization.  Using them will give your comments more credibility and make your comments easier to read.  Paragraphs are your friend. Note: gameday threads are the exception.

Keep the pictures small
.  Simply add the code <img src="imagesource" height="Ypx" width="Xpx"> to make sure they don't get too big (change X and Y).  Preview your comments and always use a post title so that people can hide them if they choose.

No political or religious discussions.  We actually think politics and religion should be discussed more often in the U.S., but those topics always tends to degenerate into mindless drivel, and people actually get more worked up about them than baseball.  We've got enough on our hands with America's past time.

Use the reply button.  Nested comments are awesome and keep the discussion organized.

We love sarcasm.  But if you use it, don't blame others when they don't pick up on it.

These ground rules are meant as guidelines only.  Although we tend to be fairly hands-off as moderators, decisions about conduct and banning are entirely at our discretion, and the ground rules above may or may not apply to those decisions. We may suspend a user's account any time we find that, in our judgment, it will make the site more enjoyable, more successful, and more fan-friendly overall.  Usually, although not always, we will explain to a user why their contributions aren't meshing with the site's philosophy before taking any official measures.

If you have ANY questions about the items on this list, please e-mail one of the authors.

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Dude 7th grade is pretty intense....

He might even talk to a girl this year.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
09: This one is for all the rings.

by SRQman on Nov 11, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep the language and photos PG13. Sure, we’ve heard and seen it all, but most comments that rely on colorful language aren’t worth posting anyway. We are especially intolerant of ignorance — racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. Note: gameday threads are the exception.

Just to clarify, even gameday threads shouldn’t have animated gifs of fatman twinkie gay sex.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Nov 11, 2008 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Are pictures of foods that look like genitals ok?

That was sort of a hot issue in the past. I just want to know my boundaries.

by Albertrayon on Nov 11, 2008 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, so "fuc*"

can be said once or twice per film/thread, provided it is said in a very open and important part of the plot.

we get, what, 15-20 “sh*t” uses?

douchebag infinitum

by daveh33 on Nov 11, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome.

I’m excited for the same old DRaysBay, but with better and more stuff.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 11, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome n00bs.

Already have fancy titles and everything, though. Just jumped us commoners.

by rglass44 on Nov 11, 2008 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

fo real real, welcome guys.

May the best get better. I am sad, though, that the monniest name in Rays blogging is no longer with us.

by rglass44 on Nov 11, 2008 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I would also ask kindly for everyone to use this here subject line

Now, give me a little bit, I have to think of ways to be sarcastic and disagree with everyone/everything

by joeybw on Nov 11, 2008 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Hey

Be awesome please. Thanks.

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on Nov 11, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

how do we feel about areolae in pictures?

or rather, an areolate cleavage picture (yes i looked it up, it is the adjective)

*(can also use areolar as an adjective… i love our language)

by daveh33 on Nov 11, 2008 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

shay laren

how many times must i remind

by daveh33 on Nov 11, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, no.

We’ve been over this. Some people, including Brickhaus, are at work during the threads that thing has been posted.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 11, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no set definition.

Because if I set parameters on what’s unacceptable someone will find a loophole.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 11, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got a better definition then 'PG-13'

If looking at it at work can get you fired, don’t post it.

by kericr on Nov 11, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at porn at work can get you fired as well

The difference: Porn is almost certainly a guaranteed pink-slip.

by kericr on Nov 11, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the Gif I speak of was not porn

And I’m not trying to pick on anyone. I was just under the impression that this website was for entertainment purposes. If someone doesn’t want their boss to get offended at what is on the screen, they could always, you know, work.

by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 11, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It's called "Multitasking"

But I do agree to an extent. I stopped showing up in day-game GDTs because of the no-holds-barred style. I personally don’t think that should be changed, I’d rather give up day game GDTs then to neuter them all.

by kericr on Nov 11, 2008 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not hard to find pictures of scantily clad women on the internet, though.

Posting bouncing boob gifs reflects poorly on the community and the authors, and it’s never topical.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 12, 2008 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it's ideal

Only that it should not be prohibited…big difference.

by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 12, 2008 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

You're a guest in their house.

So yes, it is perfectly acceptable for them to say “While you’re in my house, you cannot do these things.” It’s up to you to decide whether you can deal with their guidelines or not. Ultimately, the actions of the community are a reflection of the authors.

Also, you’re being provided with insanely intelligent, high quality analysis for free. Is it too much to ask that you respect the wishes of the people that provide it?

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 12, 2008 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

For the record

I’ve never posted the pic in question, or anything similar.

I agree that it’s perfectly acceptable for them to make whatever rules they want. That doesn’t automatically make those rules reasonable.

by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 12, 2008 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Babe pics clearly add value and a sense of community to this site.

I know that while I comment I hope most people are feeling at least a bit sexually aroused, otherwise it’s just not the same.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 12, 2008 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Wonder how this will play out.

So are you still going to be an active poster R.J., or is it a complete OPS take over?

by Cory Alexander on Nov 11, 2008 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

DRaysBay + wOBA=nDRB(new DRaysBay)

Good stuff, I love baseball, my life has a gaping hole right now where baseball has been for about the past 8-9 months. The more people to talk rosterbation with the better.

by twenty5psi on Nov 11, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

That was started by the regulars.

No one’s stopping you from doing it, and it really does help keep the baseball posts on topic.

J.K.L.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 11, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

If you want to go ahead. Just avoid politics/religion/babe threads and I don’t mind.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 11, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Tiiiiight

This will help me through my daily grind EMENSLY.
(I grind all day in my world. yeah.)

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on Nov 11, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Tommy Boy

With Tommy joining the ranks, I might start reading this site again. That is if the comments do not look like a bunch of 13 year olds…

by David Bloom on Nov 11, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Well now that I have everyone's attention...I think

I’m not going to create a separate post about me. Most of you know my work from Outs Per Swing and quite a few of us go back to the board formally known as Raysbaseball.com. For the people who are unfamilar with myself and my work take a quick peak at outsperswing.com to get a quick idea.

As for DRB, there won’t be many changes at all. The staff that was here before will stay on in their current roles(minus Patrick) and things will work as normal. Most of the transition will go on behind the scenes. R.J. summed it up best when he said

To be concise: the former “OutsPerSwing” staff will be merging with DRaysBay’s current staff to form the new DRaysBay. Not much is planned to change outside of adding some excellent talent to the existing core

Now excuse me as my kid just walked up to me and said “Daddy, I have to pee.”Ahhh The perks of being the boss.

by Tommy Rancel on Nov 12, 2008 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

I for one welcome our new overlords

Just ask yourself this question: “How much shit could a shitposter post if a shitposter could post shit?”

The answer might surprise you!

I look forward to bringing the comedy gold in the new season.

5 dollar foot loooooong

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Nov 12, 2008 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

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