Bartlett Finished Ahead of Ichiro, Kinsler and Teixeira in MVP Vote
Pedroia won the award, but who cares. Jason Bartlett finished 18th, baby. Pena finished 9th and Longoria 11th, but Bartlett is the MVP of our hearts
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Tommy Rancel
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And aside from a single 3rd place vote for Pena, he got the highest vote-rank of all Rays
Who’s laughing now? Huh?? Huh??
….I’ll show myself out.
by ReasonableDoubt on Nov 18, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying he should have won?
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't have finished 10th.
3rd at absolute worst.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 18, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
People get way too worked up over where particular players finished and how individual writers voted.
As to Pedroia, I don’t really have a problem with him winning. I don’t think there really was a clear-cut statistical winner, so it looks like a lot of voters applied the ‘best player on a playoff-ish team’ test.
The number of Top-5 or Top-10 finishes in MVP voting may have predictive value for future HOF results, but outside of that, it really isn’t all that important. Few if anyone can recite that type of info w/o the help of BB-Ref.
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That said
I do find it hillarious that Bartlett got a 5th place vote
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i find it funny that bartlett even gets 1 vote period
everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds
by RaysOfHope on Nov 19, 2008 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
K-Rod placed 6th.
That trumps the ridiculousness of Bartlett’s one vote.
I know that's a pisser, baby.
by Blicks on Nov 19, 2008 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Topkin had K-Rod 4th and Barty 5th.
Jesus he needs to stick to facts reporting.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 19, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pedroia was a valid choice
He led the league in doubles and runs scored, and is an above average defensive player. He’s still a tool, though.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Nov 18, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
35 doubles at home
I wonder how many were BS Fenway doubles. I hate this twerp.
by rglass44 on Nov 18, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That cuts both ways though
Free doubles and robbed home runs.
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
The Monster adds as many homers as it takes away. It also turns a lot of routine fly balls into 2Bs or HRs.
by rglass44 on Nov 18, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Longo should of finished in the top 10
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Nov 18, 2008 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He would've been way up there if he had played in August
by Tommy Rancel on Nov 18, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way man
The way the Rays tanked after he was out of the lineup proved his value
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aybar hit the piss out of the ball in his absence and we didn't tank.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Refer to the new rules
I can take it anyway I want
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I can
(Wait, the new rules say I cannot)
Your mother is a fine lady.
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Her classiness is only outdone by your own.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^^^^
(I’m not even sure what this means)
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me either
But I was sharing a spot of tea with your mother recently and she told me she was surprised you outlived the coathanger treatment 2 months before your birth, and even more surprised you lived through the ensuing retardation. Then I ever so gently corn-holed her while listening to Rammstein. A pleasant time was had by all.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So long as you and she didn't have a gay time I think you're in the clear
by GomesSweetGomes on Nov 18, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well put
is what she said to me
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Raise your hand if you hate Pedroia
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I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Nov 18, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
format fail
I spent so long making that look like a hand too… :’(
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Nov 18, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had been viewing in Firefox and didn't even see the fail.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Nov 18, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you should at least have to be 6ft to win the MVP
damn troll pedrioa
everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds
by RaysOfHope on Nov 19, 2008 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Los being one point behind Arod
and Longoria sandwiched between the run away Cy Young and the MVP of the AL according to Justin.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 18, 2008 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would take Mauer over Pedroia so much so it's not even funny.
Then Youk gets 3rd place while Teixiera almosts missed the list completely.(I realize he was only in the AL for about 200 AB’s).
The “Boston Bias” is pretty clear on that list.
by twenty5psi on Nov 18, 2008 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The voters should have a piece of paper with line, pick your guy--who is it gonna be? whoever gets the most votes wins. This way people like Bartlett aren't in the discussion.
by walkoffwalk on Nov 18, 2008 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This.
If you vote someone second, he isn’t your MVP then is he?
by twenty5psi on Nov 18, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not in my heart.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Nov 18, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How could you be so heartless!
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
09: This one is for all the rings.
by SRQman on Nov 18, 2008 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Topkin gave Bartlett the 5th place vote
http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/
Times baseball writer Marc Topkin was one of 28 BBWAA members to vote for the AL MVP award. His ballot:
1. Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
2. Joe Mauer, Twins
3. Josh Hamilton, Rangers
4. Frankie Rodriguez, Angels
5. Jason Bartlett, Rays
6. Carlos Quentin, White Sox
7. Justin Morneau, Twins
8. Kevin Youkilis, Red Sox
9. Carlos Pena, Rays
10. Grady Sizemore, Indians
by Tommy Rancel on Nov 19, 2008 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's something you learn in Little League
Don’t compound one mistake by making another.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found
a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up
that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 19, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he had Mauer way high, and Morneau lower than most.
And he had Sizemore on the ballot, unlike half the voters. But yeah…
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Nov 19, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It can't be an awful ballot
if you do not know the reasoning behind it. I like the first two picks and don’t think there is anything wrong with having Hamilton, Quentin, Morneau, Youklis and Sizemore somewhere on the ballot. I think even Pena could be somewhere near the bottom. So in my view, the only really bad choice is Rodriguez.
As for Bartlett, I suppose if you want to make a point about it, you could put him at 10. Five is much too high in my view, but once you get to the middle of the ballot, writers will often go home town or use it to highlight a particular view of things.
by bobr on Nov 19, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is why the voters should only vote for one player. Why vote for a 10th place MVP?
by walkoffwalk on Nov 19, 2008 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You've brought this up before and it's a bad idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_theory
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Nov 19, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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