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More, Re: Giambi

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 10:13 AM EST

The average American League designated hitter had a wOBA of .341, or generated 1.38 runs per 600 plate appearances. The Rays DH collection of Cliff Floyd, Eric Hinske, Jonny Gomes, and others combined for a DH wOBA of .338, or about two less runs per 600 PA than the average DH. Jason Giambi has had wOBAs of .418, .350, and .379 the past three seasons. In fact, Giambi's wOBA low since joining the Yankees was .339. So even at his worst, Giambi has been better than the Rays DHs.

Ideally the Rays could add a hitter with defensive value, but sometimes exceptions can be made. Giambi could provide a two-win upgrade simply from his hitting. If you assume he falls off a half of a win each season from here on out, he's still a 2 WAR player next season, and a 1.5 WAR player in 2010, that's worth roughly 18.46 million dollars, or 9.23 million per season. Let's hope a combination of an oversaturated market and having friends like Carlos Pena on the team, plus the possibility of a World Series ring, weigh heavily in Giambi's mind when it comes time to sign.

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is a home run considered a fly-ball for wOBA purposes? (and thus an 80% chance of an out)

by walkoffwalk on Nov 29, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions

wOBA doesn't take batted ball types into account.

(0.72xNIBB + 0.75xHBP + 0.90×1B + 0.92xRBOE + 1.24×2B + 1.56×3B + 1.95xHR) / PA

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

RBOE = reach base on error?

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 29, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions

Yessir.

StatCorner’s wOBA takes RBOE into account, FanGraph does not.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 12:18 PM EST up reply actions

Aah, thanks.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 29, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions

And to convert to runs...

wOBA1 – wOBA2 = x

x/1.15 = run value per PA

RV/PA times ____ # of PAs = run value per ____ PA

Ect.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions

Mmmm, more thanks.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 29, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

why is a hbp waited higher than a walk? Also, why aren't intentional walks counted?

by RaysTheRoof on Nov 29, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

IBBs aren't in players control.

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/11/8/656675/tra-explained-no-numbers#9942497

For the HBP explanation.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions

Ugh, hitters*

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 29, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions

HBPs occur more randomly than walks.

Pitchers tend to allow walks when they hurt less, with a runner on second, for example. HBPs could happen any time.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 29, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions

so it's not really like tRA?

by walkoffwalk on Nov 30, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions

No. You're thinking of tOPS.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 30, 2008 10:32 AM EST up reply actions

or PrOPS

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 30, 2008 8:12 PM EST up reply actions

yes plz to Giambi

Just hand him the DH spot and be done with it.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 29, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions

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