The Mets Are Amusing

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 5, 2008 8:29 PM EST

If you've glanced at the Rotoworld sidebar you've probably seen the report of the Mets talking to the Rays about Andrew Sonnanstine and Edwin Jackson. I simply refused to believe that Omar Minaya of all GMs would properly value Sonnanstine as someone he should pursue. It appears I'm correct.

Just met Craig Landis, the representative for free-agent tarting pitchers Ryan Dempster and Jon Garland. They're clearly not the top options for the Mets - that would be Derek Lowe and Oliver Perez - but they'll have to consider them. Landis said he had a brief meeting with the Mets in which they expressed "preliminary" interest in his clients.

Jon Garland is hideous. How bad? Edwin, Mark Hendrickson, Barry Zito, Jarrod Washburn,and Scott Olsen had better tRAs. They only have "some" interest in him, but frankly that's too much. It seems like the Mets are going to sign a high priced arm whether he's good or not, so yeah, there's a real unlikely chance that the Mets will be the ones to deal for Sonnanstine.

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I understand that part of being a fan of the Rays will be seeing our favorite players all leave before we want them to

but I really hope Sonny is around next year.

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Nov 5, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions

I'm with you here

I know the Rays are deep on pitching, but I’d prefer not to see the Rays trade away 2/5s of their starting rotation at once, and I really think Sonny is going to continue to improve. He’ll continue to be productive and be worth more next year. They should hold on to him unless they’re going to get some mighty fine players in return.

by kericr on Nov 5, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

Maybe,

but there is not one instance in the entire history of the Rays when that has happened, and quite a few now when to the contrary the more popular and effective players have been extended. I do think it possible, even likely, that as the payroll grows we may lose some very popular players, but at this point that is pure speculation with not one incident that could be used as precedence to support the guesswork.

by bobr on Nov 5, 2008 9:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I'm not one to defend Omar

but this post is really too smug. Of course he’s showing “interest” in all of the free-agent pitchers out there, do you think he wants to come to the negotiating table saying, “well those free agents suck, I’m desperate for Edwin Jackson!!!11.” I don’t think Omar likes Garland at all, but I wouldn’t be shocked if we signed him. I would since he is pursuing Sonnanstine and Vasquez, you would wait to write him off as an idiot.

by Sam Page on Nov 5, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions

Yes, I fully expect him to tell the Rays all the FA SPs suck.

Rather than simply show interest in the good SPs.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 5, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions

Point taken

but maybe he’s trying to keep leverage with the good ones? I’m giving him benefit of the doubt, is all. Hell, it’s all the comfort I have after Minaya’s 4-year extension. Well, that and my new Velociraptor Jesus jersey.

by Sam Page on Nov 5, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions

He's shown interest in Lowe.

Which should back your theory a little bit.

This.

by Blicks on Nov 5, 2008 11:19 PM EST up reply actions

Damnit, now I can't disagree with your comment like I wanted to

Cuz I recently just got my Price jersey also. How incredibly amazing is it?

Even though it’s just the regular season one, its tied for my fav with my BJ Upton WS jersey.

And, sorry for being a whore, this has nothing to do with the topic.

Carry on.

by joeybw on Nov 5, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions

who the hell cares?

would anyone trade either Sonny or Edwin for Heilman? I sure as hell would not. What else do that have to offer that would make us better next year?

I dont want to trade either starter for prospects, I’d want guys back that can help us next year and ideally have a few years of control left (although I’d be okay with a rental for EJax)

Rays 2009 Slogan: "Come back with your shield or on it"

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 6, 2008 7:45 AM EST reply actions

And you're surprised why?

Most GMs don’t look at the same metrics you look at. Omar is not in the minority here. Jackson has more trade value than you think he does, and Sonnanstine has less trade value than you think he does. Sonnanstine might have a bit more trade value than Jackson, but it’s mostly because he has 2 more years before be becomes abritration eligible. However, for the half of GMs who think that wins, ERA and velocity are measures of a good pitcher, Jackson would clearly be the better prize.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Nov 6, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions

I think Jackson has more trade value, and I'm glad, that means we'll keep the better pitcher.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 6, 2008 9:12 AM EST up reply actions

this.

Rays 2009 Slogan: "Come back with your shield or on it"

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 6, 2008 9:58 AM EST up reply actions

Dusty Baker style GM'ing

There has to be a lot of really dumb GM’s out there if RJ and Haus feel the same way about this, maybe they really do think that Edwin walking people will lead to base clogging half of the time. If Sonny can have the success he has had by knowing how to pitch and letting hitters hit the ball against AL teams he is just going to be even better in the NL, it is hard to comprehend how anyone could value Jackson over Sonny right now, but I guess that’s how you spend 150mil one year and then throw $137 mil. at the best pitcher in baseball and still don’t make the playoffs, again.

IF only Harry Carey could be arounde for Kosuke.

by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 6, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions

When a 137MM team is relying on

Damian Easley and Argenis Reyes starting at 2B in September
Brian Stokes getting critical outs in September (with the bases loaded)
A washed up Pedro and random AAA guys occupying 2 spots in the Mets rotation in September.
Grandpa Alou to start in LF at the beginning of the season. Mets got bloody lucky with Tatis.

…there seriously is something wrong with the FO.

Now, F.A.T. is a good thing, but the T part is seriously lacking with this bunch.

This.

by Blicks on Nov 6, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions

haha. don't forget Rudy Lugo and they signed Al Reyes.

by walkoffwalk on Nov 6, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions

Speaking of Easley

Check out his numbers from 97-01 LINK

Must have been something they put in the water up there in Detroit. And here I thought Brady Anderson’s rise to 50 dingers was the most flagrant abuse of narcotics during the ERA.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Nov 6, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions