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Will Carroll: Kazmir is always a bit risky and of all the pitchers in Tampa - and there's a lot - he's the one I'd try to trade. That's not to say I don't like him and if he can get past the ulnar neuritis that held back his slider, he's also the one that could just simply dominate. Shields will be more consistent and Price is maybe Kaz's equal. The upside here is that there's a relatively easy surgical fix IF the problem doesn't correct. They couldn't shut him down last year and made the right decisions to get him through effectively, plus you always want to avoid surgery when possible. I'd like to see him work on another pitch besides the slider -- splitter? gyro? -- to help him.

Tommy (Clearwater): Matt Garza had surgery to fix a broken bone in his foot that bothered him for the second half of the year. He is now ineligible for the WBC. What are the odd's Jim Hickey goes around and breaks a foot on of all his pitchers to ensure the same?

Will Carroll: Given how he pitched in the playoffs, I think Garza will be fine, though normal caveats about workload. Interesting point -- will Davey Johnson call Kazmir or Shields? Price?

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Erik (The Trop): It’s up to you, who do you sign to be the Rays’ DH in 2009? Giambi/Abreu/Burrell/Dunn/Bradley? Go.

Will Carroll: I’d rank them in precisely the opposite order you did. I’d be very curious to see whether Dunn would respond to Joe Madden’s style. Speaking of Bradley, I had a long but off record conversation with Ron Washington where I came away amazingly impressed with Washington. There are people in the game (and in life) that just have “it” and Washington is one of them.

by Erik Hahmann on Dec 15, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shields is the best one to go

He has the healthiest arm, he is already established, and could be the best starter in the WBC. Kazmir had that injury at the start of last year, and is trying to recover his slider. David Price needs to used as a starter in 2009, so the Rays want him to rest is arm for what will be the most innings pitched in one season for him.

by therayspartyleader on Dec 15, 2008 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we should let any pitcher go

They can ask, but I’d give them the no thx. I know he’s was born in Germany, but the Tigers have a durable, young, 14 game winner that can start in the WBC.

by Tommy Rancel on Dec 15, 2008 4:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Team Deutschland!!!!

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Dec 15, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was born on a military base

I doubt he’d be eligible for the German team if they had one.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 15, 2008 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod lived in the Dominican for four years and has dual citizenship; Piazza got in on heritage (grandfather from Sicily)

I believe even under Olympic rules, both are legit to represent their respective teams (only Piazza is in question). A-Rod could also qualify using heritage.

It’s very doubtful being born on an American military base qualifies as either heritage or citizenship.

With pitch count limits and rest requirements enforced at the WBC, the workload itself isn’t a huge concern of mine. Rather, the biggest risk is not being under the direct supervision of your usual coaches who might spot a mechanical problem that someone who is less familiar might miss.

by RATW on Dec 15, 2008 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone should explore the benefits of trading Scott Kazmir.

I’m sure there are more in addition to injury risk.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Dec 15, 2008 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

IMO, the drawback is just too big to even think about it

He just signed a below-market extension. If you trade him away a half season later, nobody else will sign below-market extensions with the team.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 15, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why was it below-market?

It wasn’t a FA contract.

Was he giving the Rays a discount because he likes Tampa? If so, good point. Otherwise, he was just signing a contract that gave him better financial security than going year-to-year throughout arbitration and early free agency.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Dec 15, 2008 6:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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