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Update on the Baldelli news

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According to the Heater:

OF Rocco Baldelli clarified the Rhode Island TV report this morning, saying there has been an updated diagnosis and it is "an encouraging development" and with adjustments to his current medication he hopes "to be on the field on a much more regular basis.

Baldelli said he was not orginally "misdiagnosed" as reported by WLNE-TV, but that the original diagnosis of a mitochondrial disorder was "the best diagnosis at the time.''

"It's definitely an encouraging development,'' Baldelli said this morning from his Rhode Island home. "Knowing this is a treatable condition, I feel this is a very positive thing for me and my baseball career. With this less-severe diagnosis, I hope to be on the field on a much more regular basis.''

Well that should clear up the discussion earlier about the validity of this report.  Seems it was true.

It's a tremendous break for Rocco.  If he can treat this disease and be on the field  "on a much more regular basis" then the Rays will have to re-evaluate signing Baldelli to another contract.

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Good news

That’s great for him. I’d like to see him on the field on a much more regular basis wherever he lands.

by Jason Collette on Dec 17, 2008 12:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good to see that report wasn't BS.

Hopefully he can live a normal life now.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 17, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus.

Yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus.

[I wrote this comment before this tread was posted and I intended to post it under the original one, but this one seems more appropriate.]

How I hope this is true. I hope this is true not only for Rocco but for MLB as well. I hope this is true and I further hope that if it is true then the Rays are able to re-sign him and he reestablishes his career with gusto. [Even if it’s found to be a canard, I still hope the Rays resign him at least to a minor league contract with an invite, but I’m just selfish that way].

But is it just wishful thinking?

The fact that the news-release is all in caps doesn’t necessarily put me off. Isn’t Ken Bell a sportscaster with channel six? Well someone may have simply directly posted what was on his teleprompter that he broadcasted during the news. If that’s the case it would all be in caps.

I AM NOT A DOCTOR, hell I didn’t even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if you google Paramotonia Congenita, the symptoms and characteristics of this dysfunction are similar to those that Rocco was experiencing.

If this proves to be true, were/are the Rays at fault? All in all, in my opinion the Ray’s organization and their professional medical staff are not culpable if this was indeed a misdiagnoses. Rocco was evaluated by a battery of doctors and labs, all of whom admitted they were befuddled. In my recollection they always maintained that there was no absolute certainty but that he may be suffering from a Mitochondrial Disorder. He was treated as such and he responded to said treatment, but his doctor’s continued to seek a better understanding for a definitive diagnosis and prognosis.

It may be wishful thinking, but I hope we now have found one.

by TampaMet on Dec 17, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Medicine is not an exact science

Why are you worried about who is at fault?

Rocco stated that, “he was not orginally "misdiagnosed” as reported by WLNE and WPRI, but that the original diagnosis of a mitochondrial disorder was “the best diagnosis at the time.’’”

by plasticman on Dec 17, 2008 12:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK Rays, there's your RH bat

and he can play ALL the OF positions

by Raymondo on Dec 17, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slow it down there chief.

How about we let him get healed before we start proclaiming him as a savior.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 17, 2008 12:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We don't know what a healthy Baldelli would command.

And we don’t know if he’ll even be a healthy Baldelli.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 17, 2008 5:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know it would not happen

but it would be nice for Rocco to give us a “home town discount” for showing faith in him early in his career and sticking with him through his injuies.

Rays 2009 Slogan: "Come back with your shield or on it"

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2008 8:09 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like offering a Minor League deal

when all it would have taken was an act of faith on our part. Something in the neighborhood of 2 yr/ 5M with another 4-5M in incentives. A lot of risk in that scenario, but it shows we have his back and if he does become who he should have been we get a pretty good deal out of it. I mean 2.5M a year is a .5 WAR player. Last year, according to Justin, he was a .44 WAR and you have to think that will improve. On a side note I’ve spent so much time at the top of his list that there are some pretty interesting names at the bottom. Cano, M. Cabrera, Millar, etc… quite a few “big name” guys.

LINK

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 18, 2008 9:14 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OPS+ of 102 AND Gimpy legs? COUNT ME IN!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Dec 17, 2008 1:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YYYYAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

So happy to see the report wasn’t BS.

Best of luck to him, as a person and as a player. Absolute class act.

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Dec 17, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, its cool, I'd rather have Bradley.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Dec 17, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

R U Serious?

Ask Eric Wedge, Grady Little, Ken Macha and Bruce Bochy

i’f bet the’d take Baldelli

by Raymondo on Dec 17, 2008 2:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's not.

He was sure we wouldn’t make the playoffs.

We should have a sternfan1 HOF quotes.

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 2:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He served his time.

He gets to come back if he can play nice.

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 2:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So...when's that ignore feature for SBN supposed to be implemented?

Because it appears to be impossible to earn a permaban.

How many people since the existance of this site have had a whole thread dedicated to his banning?

by kericr on Dec 17, 2008 2:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He really isn't THAT bad...

Longo4prez was worse and got the permaban.

Since, I’m the one who lobbied for him to stay, feel free to email me concerns.

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 3:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Longo4prez was amazing....
I got to sighns for Aug 30, that wasn’t distgusting, it was gross/Aybar is a dildo

Need I say more?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

by SRQman on Dec 17, 2008 3:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

Pretty lame of me that I completely missed this guys existence, seemed like a real winner.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 3:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is a great quote.

He is describing his two signs that he intended to bring to the game on Aug 30th. I wish we could have seen what he brought to the game because just the thought of seeing a sign saying “Aybar is a dildo” brings a smile.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

by SRQman on Dec 17, 2008 3:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You weren't around here during sternfan's prime, were you?

huh hold on.

“pkay at late should have been made
but again BJ was a mental error”

He’s so awesome.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Dec 17, 2008 2:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FA DH>Rocco

If we can sign him to a small incentive-laden deal, the I’d consider. If not, then I wish him good luck.

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't even go that far

I’d be willing to sign him to a 1 year Minor-League contract with a ST invite with a 2-way salary option and no incentives. I would also be willing to sign him under the premise that he may not see the field at all, not even to ‘keep warm’ so to speak.

And I’d only be willing to do this if we had a spot for him on the 40 man and could send him between the majors and minors as we see fit.

Basically, the team’s loyalty to him should only reach to the extent that they offer him a player contract. Now if they Rays do manage to resign him and he shows he can play 4 out of 5 games and he plays average defense and strokes well enough, then you consider giving him a good contract next year, since he’s proven he’s a capable most-of-the-time player, but you don’t sign him to a contract with the idea that you hope he does this so he can contribute. You sign him with the idea that he just might be better than the guy you signed to fill the role he would be suited for.

If Baldelli truely is healthy and he wants to resurrect his career, signing with the Rays, or with Boston for that matter, should not be what he tries to do. He should be looking at a team like Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, teams that needs a corner outfielder but wants to spend absolutely no money on one.

by kericr on Dec 17, 2008 1:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's almost as bad as the BBWAA's background on their website.

Good news for Rocco though. I don’t think the timing is a coincidence.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 17, 2008 1:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rocco = Not the answer at DH

Heater

The Rays have said they are open to bringing him back, but they apparently want to first address their quest to add a front-line hitter to their lineup and then see how and if Baldelli still fits.

by Tommy Rancel on Dec 17, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm so does that mean our OF/DH's would be

LF Carl Crawford
CF B.J Upton
RF Matt Joyce
DH Some guy who hits a lot of homers
4th OF: Rocco Baldelli

Which in turn means Gross will be cut or traded for a PTBNL and Nando will be in AAA waiting for one of those guys to get injured.

I mean, that’s how I would set it up, don’t know what Mr. Friedman is thinking though.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I prefer Rocco

Doesn’t mean it will happen like that.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this

Rays 2009 Slogan: "Come back with your shield or on it"

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 17, 2008 2:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well and also

Gross seems like a Joyce with less talent to me. I would want Rocco or Nando as the 4th OF

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, Nando would be a decent choice too.

I personally would lean against something that isn’t really a glaring need for the Rays, who have capable bodies in house that can fill this position. Nando might be a better choice than Gross simply because he brings different things to the table, but I think that both of them are better choices than Rocco because they’re already under contract.

by kericr on Dec 17, 2008 2:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am fine with Nando

and the power hitting DH being the 2 additions. Gross is not needed and I guess that would leave no space for Rocco. We will see what will happen.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just saying, he doesn't HAVE to start out opening day in RF.

If the team feels he needs a little bit more seasoning in the minors then keeping Gross for a little bit isn’t terrible.

by Erik Hahmann on Dec 17, 2008 2:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they are even considering platooning him at the big-league level, then he should start the season in the minors.

He was somewhat rushed through the minors, as well, so starting him there for a month might not be a bad idea.

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 2:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So pray for a Hot Gross to start the season and maybe we can get something

for him in May. You know like a Gabe Gross rookie card or a bag of shake.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 2:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He got a very decent amount of time in the majors last season

and held his own

He needs the chance to be a full time starter, if he can’t hit lefties THEN you can platoon him

My dream of the 5 guys would be

LF CC
CF BJ
RF Joyce
DH Bradley
4th OF Perez OR Rocco

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's still been rushed.

Skipped High A, only 56 games at AAA. There is definitely an argument to letting Gross man the LH side of a platoon to start the year w/ Joyce in AAA. Is it the best idea? I don’t know, but I’d rather err on the side of caution (as does this FO).

by rglass44 on Dec 17, 2008 2:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, it certainley hasn't been ruled out

That’s why we didn’t non tender him.

However, if Joyce has a good spring then its good bye Gabe.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we can get a PTBNL...

and I only suggest that IF Joyce has a good summer.

Wait….Gross has no options left does he?

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

summer = spring

now I think I got it right!

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he will

if he doesn’t, then I guess we will have Gross and Nando but I want Joyce and Nando

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because you can't platoon Joyce with Gross

Neither one can hit lefties. And even if you don’t want to platoon Joyce, you still want the backup corner outfielder to be someone who can hit lefties, since both corner outfielders are lefties.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 17, 2008 5:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but then i will root for more of rocco then joyce

i want rocco as the DH now since he can play just about every day

everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds
who needs k-rod for 37 million when you can have d-rod for 50k?
twins sign ty wigginton ASAP!!!!

by RaysOfHope on Dec 17, 2008 10:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Milton Bradley

Be careful what you wish for….

by Raymondo on Dec 17, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, I know

but its Joe Maddon. The man who basically cut off Garza’s balls in no time and now Spitfire does nothing more than yell into his cap. Maddon will handle Bradley if he even needs handling.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMGZ HE ARGUED WITH AN ANNOUNCER!!!!!!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Dec 17, 2008 2:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow Devendorf just punched a broad and he's getting kicked out of Syracuse

Bullshit

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So he was provoked because she was telling him "get out of my way I am in a hurry"

with her car?

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds about right.

It’s all very civil and the Liberal Media® went ahead and blew it out of proportion.

by kericr on Dec 17, 2008 3:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gawd I hate those guys

but not as much as I hate this slutbag that is trying to derail the Mighty Orange. I bet she is a UCONN transfer

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

basically all he did was

Go to the announcers booth and yell at them because he was insulted they were talking about his past…..acts, nothing more.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 2:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn't this a buy-low opportunity the Rays like to take?

Baldelli can be the 4th outfielder w/ Perez waiting in the wings as the insurance policy. Sure seems like a win-win to me. Give Baldelli a chance to prove his health and if it doesn’t work, cut your losses and move on with Perez.

My lineup
Iwamura
Crawford
Upton
Bradley (please, please, please)
Pena
Longoria
Joyce
Navarro
Bartlett

Bench: Aybar, Zobrist, Riggans, Baldelli, Perez
SP: Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Price, Sonny
RP: Percival, Bradford, Howell, Balfour, Wheeler, Niemann (although I hope that two of three of Percival/Wheeler/Bradford are replaced before Opening Day)

by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 17, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude

You have 14 hitters
5 starters
and oh…..6 relievers, I guess you do have 25 but we are going to have 13 hitters and 7 relievers in the end.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 3:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which means if everything else is right

Nando would be dropped and Rodriguez, Thayer, Salas and Talbot will all compete for the 7th relief spot.

by joeybw on Dec 17, 2008 3:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Baldelli was coming back on a team friendly contract he already would have

You have to guess they are low-balling him and he hasn’t received much other interest unfortunately.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or waiting to see how the rest of their plans develop

If the sign a DH that can also play outfield on occasion that also becomes a factor. Also a major factor would be having a better idea of how much can he play. I think if they signed Giambi, then they’d be more inclined for Baldelli as an extra outfielder. If they signed a Bradley or Burrell, that person could also double up as a extra outfielder. With the better report, there’s a better chance that he could fit into their plans.

My guess is they are probably right now offering him a minor-league deal and could possibly bump it up to a major league deal once they have a better picture of the offseason. With so many bigger free agents still out there, it makes the other minor deals put on hold. My guess is this is what is happening to Baldelli, especially since he is definitely a health risk and unable to be fully counted on.

by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 17, 2008 3:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am guessing they have done the same as far as a minor league deal

which I would consider a slap in the face if I were Rocco. Would he come back with his tail between his legs I don’t know, but when you lowball somebody off the bat there is not much reason for them to come back.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's not a slap in the face when health is a major issue

right now they have the opportunity to add full-time players…Baldelli himself said he cannot do that. With the latest diagnosis that could change. Or, perhaps it doesn’t. Right now, the Rays can honestly say they want him back, but in what capacity will be determined by how they address their needs in the off-season. They can offer him what they can offer at the present time, while fully understanding he probably won’t take it. However, they could’ve also told him that they feel they will be able to up their offer when they know how their offseason plans unfold. However, they also know that he may not be able to wait around for them to have a clearer picture.

I still don’t think the Red Sox will offer him a 4th OF gig, because they are looking for more of a sure thing. I could, however, see a team like Cincinatti making a go of it. So Rocco will have to decide…perhaps a more sure thing on a lesser team, or a lower offer with the only team he’s known. I still think he gets a major-league offer from the Rays.

by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 17, 2008 3:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything is possible

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's gross

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This made me laugh.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

by SRQman on Dec 17, 2008 3:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He barely fits into a uniform

Perhaps one day he could go play arena ball or something

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 17, 2008 3:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

low blow

Hopefully real arena football players can play arena ball

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on Dec 17, 2008 6:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no dice

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 18, 2008 9:18 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PR in AAA.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Dec 17, 2008 3:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baldelli said he was not orginally “misdiagnosed” as reported by WLNE-TV, but that the original diagnosis of a mitochondrial disorder was "the best diagnosis at the time.’’

best diagnosis at the time? what the heck does that mean? and how is that not a misdisagnosis?

by walkoffwalk on Dec 18, 2008 8:01 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most medical breakthroughs have come in the areas of the field that revolve around

tits and ass. If the real Doctors could make any money off his condition then there might be more research. Unfortunately, for every Rocco Baldelli there is about 10,000,000 Jenna Jamesons. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Dec 18, 2008 9:20 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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