WAR on FanGraphs

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 24, 2008 12:06 PM EST

	WAR	Mil
Upton	4.3	19.4
Crawford	3	13.4
Pena	3.7	16.8
Bartlett	1.7	7.8
Iwamura	2.5	11.4
Longoria	5.1	23.1
Gross	2.1	9.3
Floyd	0.6	2.8
Hinske	2	8.8
Navarro	2.7	12

You can read more on the process here. Also, Dave Cameron says Willy Aybar is the best player without a starting job. Can we please try him at second base?

But yay! WAR! Best Christmas gift ever.

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Aybar at 2B, Impact bat signed for DH, another reliever

I want these 3 things left under my tree.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 24, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions

Indulge me if you will

CF B.J Upton
LF Carl Crawford
3B Evan Longoria
1B Carlos Pena
DH Pat Burrell
2B Willy Aybar
C Dioner Navarro
RF Matt Joyce
SS Jason Bartlett

We all know the SP’s

Relievers: Niemann, Ohman, Percival(yuck), Bradford, Wheeler, Howell, Balfour

I guess we lose Rodriguez, thanks for not retiring Troy! but just for my X-Mas gift to RJ, what if we change Ohman to Rhino, sign Nelson and make up a Percival injury?

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 24, 2008 12:21 PM EST reply actions

What is a 'X-mas'?

by Raymondo on Dec 24, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions

lol

I remember when Seth McClung flipped out once when someone said X-Mas.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 24, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

Can I trade Aki and my soul

as well as a PTBNL for Rafael Perez instead?

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 24, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions

Aki is pretty important to this team

now if his $4.25mil option for 2010 is too much, then maybe he should be traded at the deadline, but personally I think he is worth it.

by RayOfLight on Dec 24, 2008 1:02 PM EST reply actions

Important to this team how?

What does he do that Aybar can’t?

by Erik Hahmann on Dec 24, 2008 1:06 PM EST up reply actions

Talk Japanese?

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 24, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions

I would love to see someone deny that

Go ahead

just try

I have to admit though, can Aybar handle 2B as a everyday player? Just not sure about his D holding up.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 24, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions

He is slighly below Aki in terms of D at 2B, but Aki is older and more expensive

so that evens it out. Besides talk Japanese and take a kick to the groin there is nothing Aki can do that Aybar can’t.

by Tommy Rancel on Dec 24, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions

but there are things Aybar can do that Aki can't

I am all for that move but I don’t expect it at all.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 24, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions

How exactly do you know he's only slightly worse?

Based on a 70 inning sample? Especially when that sample contradicts his scouting reports? The Braves moved him away from middle infield for a reason, and that was at a time when they desperately needed a 2B.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 24, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions

He's a plus defender at third.

Odds are he’d transfer to second decently.

Aki was bad a third (per the metrics) and transferred to second decently.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 24, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions

Play defense

I realize Aybar played well at 2B per the stats in a very small (70 inning) sample size, but with that small of a sample I’m inclined to believe my eyes and scouting reports instead which say he’d be a very bewlow-average defender at second.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 24, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions