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A preliminary study by the Tampa Bay Rays highlights the advantages of the Carillon Town Center as the site of a future baseball stadium.

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screw it...

build a damn island in the middle of the bay and build massive parking lots on both sides of the bay. Take a couple of boats for each side and shuttle people to and from the games.

Have the Yankees pay for it too

by Jason Collette on Dec 30, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder

if we officially get something done for the stadium if our first move will be extending…..you know who.

I do know, however, it will be a long time before anything is set.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Dec 30, 2008 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

I originaly posted

this on raysbb.com

Why I think the Rays will move to Tampa

http://www.raysbb.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9586&hilit=why+i+think+tampa

Obviously there are many more finacial obstacles in getting the team into tampa than keeping them in Pinellas.

by selgy on Dec 30, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

I like your idea. Very thorough.

I’ve personally done a design project with Toytown as a site. It’s not ideal. No matter what the papers print, that area is so dead a ballpark wouldn’t revive it. While it may make a ton of sense based on transportation, I don’t think it would work.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Dec 30, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

So they’re basically saying the FeatherSound area?

by Erik Hahmann on Dec 31, 2008 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

yeah

Steve Duemig and the other owners of the Venue would be very happy

by selgy on Dec 31, 2008 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

The one thing I've noticed

Is if you put a stadium in a bad area then it remains bad. The stadium cannot make junk into gold. However, if you put the stadium into a good area, or a great area, the stadium will make it much better.

by matthan on Dec 31, 2008 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

i am very big

on local commerce benefiting form a stadium and being I am not familiar with the area, hows the local scene?

by selgy on Dec 31, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Quiet

The area is very white-collar; there are Wachovia and Raymond James corporate buildings in that area, as well as a Mercury Insurance corporate building. Feathersound CC and upper-middle-class housing. The goofy thing about the Carillion area is that it’s technically St. Petersburg but it’s not really in St. Petersburg, it’s between Clearwater and Pinellas Park.

The area isn’t all that developed, but the development in the area is actually quite upscale. this map for Courtside Bar and Grille is right in the middle of it.

by kericr on Dec 31, 2008 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

There is certainly lots of available space to put a stadium over there.

Any idea if that undeveloped land along the waterfront is protected land?

by floridaroar on Jan 1, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not certain.

The undeveloped land North of Ulmerton is a marsh that is regularly sprayed for mosquitoes; I don’t know if that spraying is done by land owners or by the state, but someone is maintaining it in it’s existing state.

by kericr on Jan 2, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also literally JUST across a bridge to TAMPA

Also another bridge (I-275 Bridge) has exits that are very close to proposed site. So there would be minimal traffic modifications needed to support Pinellas County and Hillsborough County crowds. You also draw larger crowds because the express way tolls are design to dump off on Gandy Blvd. So Brandon, Seffner, Valrico, Riverview, Plant City, etc… the largest residential suburb of Tampa would be a 20-30 minute ride from the new stadium. The proposed site is only 10 miles away from Raymond James.

by Charmin519 on Jan 2, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You basically,

Allow 3 million people to cut there drive time to a Rays game down by at least thirty minutes.

by Charmin519 on Jan 2, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily true

I’d say the Harbor area in BAL has improved a great deal because of Camden Yards and the Ravens stadium. However, it is also a historic area that needed am influx of funds.

by rglass44 on Dec 31, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

but one things the baltimore area has that an area in feathersound doesnt is a downtown residential area.

I have been to bars that are a block away from Camden and there are many local establishments within walking distance

by selgy on Dec 31, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true

If I remember correctly, much of that was not in existance before the O’s moved there. They are either remodeled factories/warehouses or new buildings.

by rglass44 on Dec 31, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Living in Downtown St. Pete I certainly love walking to and from games

but I suppose everyone is convinced that we can’t survive there so Feathersound makes the most sense. The traffic on the bridge could be interesting though…

Regressing to the mean streets of St. Pete

by stpetelawyer on Jan 7, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

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