How about a closest to the win "contest"?
by nyyfaninlaaland
on Mar 31, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
Okay, I guess we can play this for pride and prescience.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Yeah, in the immortal words of Carl in Caddyshack, "There won't be any money in it, but on your deathbed you'll have true contentment", or something like that.
Guesses for wins in '08 for the Rays of Tampa? With the ad cash rolling in perhaps the management can toss up a little something for closest - you won't get anything from me. Or we can just play for what matters most after all - pride.
I'll get this party started with a low ball shot to get everybody riled up and participating. Hey, it's still a best ever!
75 wins.
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"Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness."
There you go
and my pick:
79 wins
Gabba Gabba Hey..but who gives a bibble...this guy!
"There's way too many ostriches. Why are there so many ostriches? The brochure said there would only be a few ostriches. This is a terrible vacation!"
by DevilRayRomano on Mar 31, 2008 12:59 PM EDT 0 recs
Like mine better even if it's wrong.
I'll take the contentment over the consciousness, but a quote is a quote - I thought he said consciousness too. Let 'em sue!
by nyyfaninlaaland on
Mar 31, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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88
PECOTA is smarter than all of you. For reals.
"I'm stupid and terrible at baseball"
-Jonny Gomes, (2005, 06, 07,08)
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Mar 31, 2008 10:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Finish the year out strong pushing for Wild Card
87 Wins
by JBrooks31 on Apr 1, 2008 12:37 AM EDT 0 recs
70 without Kaz, 84 with him
Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!
by Sandy Kazmir on Apr 1, 2008 12:46 AM EDT 0 recs
Wow
You think Kaz provides a 14 game swing? I think even the most valuable pitchers in major league history would be hard-pressed to live up to that standard. He only starts once every five days, and there are other factors at play when he does start. In addition, he isn't always going to produce a quality outing. I gotta disagree with your perception of his importance.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Apr 1, 2008 12:54 AM EDT
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You have to take into account the presumed negative value of either Hammel or Jackson.
by R.J. Anderson on
Apr 1, 2008 1:00 AM EDT
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Fair point
But how long are we judging Kazmir to be out? There has got to be a lot of middle ground in between those two wins projections, since it is unlikely that he will miss the entire season, and obviously he won't be pitching for the full season either.
Even taking away Hammel or Jackson, which is a definite addition by subtraction gain on itself, a 14 win swing seems a bit much.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Apr 1, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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Don't forget the residual effect
Shields against Halladay, Bedard, Beckett, I don't like as much as Shieldsy facing a #2. This goes on down the line. Kaz is our ace, Shields is better than most #2's, I think Garza is going to be inconsistent with his control, but should match up well with most #3's, Sonny is an above average 4 IMO, and Jackson is an enigma as he can strike out 7 and throw a 3 hitter over 6 or he can walk 4-5 give up some hits and get shelled. Definition of a #5 right there.
So yes, I think Kaz is worth 14 wins. It looks like he MIGHT only miss 2-3 starts which would give him 31-33 depending how it shakes out. After we stopped blowing so many of his leads last year it looked like he refocused. Our pen looks improved so far so the high pitch count games where he leaves in the 5th or 6th might be better protected. It is not unreasonable to see him winning 20 games this year if he gets that many starts with this lineup. How many would he have had last year if he could have gone an extra inning?
Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!
by Sandy Kazmir on
Apr 1, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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You bring up fair points
And indeed the rotation looks far different with Kazmir than it does without him. Who knows, that residual effect may make up the difference. It just seemed so large to me to attribute to one player when I first saw it, but I see your point.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Apr 1, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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Not only will we win 88 games...
"I'm stupid and terrible at baseball"
-Jonny Gomes, (2005, 06, 07,08)
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 1, 2008 2:20 AM EDT 0 recs
Hey, that's fabricated!
We aren't the DEVIL Rays anymore. But seriously, is that a screencap from a game that you played, or did you just find that somewhere? Either way, excellent job.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Apr 1, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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That's just it
Not only will Rocco have 500+ ABS and hit 40 Home Runs, but we will get our green uni's back along with the Devil.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on
Apr 2, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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93 wins
I believe this wont be hard to achieve......
I believe at this point our pitching as become slighty better then our offense....
what do u guys think?
Hello Kitty, #1 in your fantasy league. =p
by Boricua on Apr 1, 2008 6:42 PM EDT 0 recs
93 Wins is possible
But only if we acquire Juan Pierre.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Apr 1, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
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