4/14: New York (6-7) at RAYS (6-6)
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
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New York Yankees at Tampa Bay Rays, Apr 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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News & Links:
- Joe Smith of the St. Petersburg Times has some good news on the injury front for the Rays: RHP Matt Garza played catch for the second straight day and reported feeling well. Manager Joe Maddon said that Garza was going so well that he could be back on the early end of the team's estimated two to four week recovery timetable. Garza will throw a bullpen session on Tuesday and could make a rehab outing after that.
- Meanwhile, LHP Kurt Birkins will pitch an inning in an extended spring training game on Tuesday as he tries to recover from a left elbow strain.
- Rays Index has an interesting take on the potential dilemma the Rays will face when LHP Scott Kazmir and RHP Matt Garza return. They suggest a new alignment for the rotation and bullpen that they say would produce the first staff full of 12 major leaguers in Rays history. Check out how they'd like to see things shake out.
- Baseball America has a good article up on RHP Jeremy Hellickson's being more prepared this season. The article quotes Dick Bosman, the Rays pitching coordinator, as crediting Hellickson's improved preparedness to a new approach that has him worker harder in the off-season to come into camp ready, instead of using spring training as his sole time to get ready for the year.
Pitching Matchup:
| IP | ERA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| NYY | RH I. Kennedy |
19.0 | 1.89 | 236 | 7.11 | 4.26 | 1.67 | 0.47 | .565 | 1.16 | 0.52 | 14.53 |
| RAYS | Sonnanstine | 130.2 | 5.85 | 77 | 6.68 | 1.79 | 3.73 | 1.24 | .812 | 1.35 | 0.91 | 16.06 |
RH Ian Patrick Kennedy-One of the Yankees' fabled young "trio" of starters takes to the hill tonight looking for redemption against the team that roughed him up over a week ago. The Rays blasted Kennedy in his first, and as yet only, start of the season, tagging him for six runs in 2.1 innings of work. The outing was payback itself for Kennedy's dominant performance in his major league debut, in which he limited the Rays to just one earned run over seven innings of work. This will still be just Kennedy's second start of the year, as he was skipped over in the rotation last week. He did pitch three innings out of the bullpen in Kansas City though. Most likely, however, Kennedy's rough outing on the 4th of April won't be his last. The Yankees, desperate for pitching, rushed Kennedy up to the major leagues during the stretch run last year after he threw just 149 major league innings. The strategy worked, for three starts, as Kennedy finished last year with a 1.89 ERA. But the young righty was excessively lucky on balls in play, and while his walk rate wasn't alarming, it reached the level where it could hurt you if that luck started going the other way.
Still, the Yankees hope that at least some of that luck will hold throughout the season. They are counting on Kennedy and fellow young right-hander Phil Hughes to guide the rotation into a new era. At some point, RHP Joba Chamberlain could join that mix as well. In the transition period, though, things are likely to be messy. The Yankees had better hope that LHP Andy Pettitte still has one more season left in the tank, that RHP Mike Mussina won't be complete garbage, and that RHP Chien-Ming Wang will continue to pitch spectacularly well. A volatile season is in the cards for both Hughes and Kennedy, and New York had better hope that they have the resources to withstand the turbulent times.
RH Andy Sonnanstine-The Rays' control specialist right-hander makes his third start of the season tonight, his second against the Yankees. The onus is on Sonnanstine early in the season to prove himself worthy of a rotation spot. With RHPs Edwin Jackson, Jeff Niemann, and Jason Hammel performing exceedingly well so far this season, Sonnanstine will need to improve his pitching to assure that he will still occupy a rotation spot when LHP Scott Kazmir and RHP Matt Garza return from their respective injuries. So far, it has been an uphill battle. Jackson, Niemann, and Hammel have all outpitched Sonnanstine by quite a bit thus far. You have to figure that their performances, irrespective of whether they can be sustained, have thus far earned them a leg-up in the battle to stick in the rotation. Two pitchers will need to give way when Kazmir and Garza return, so Sonny will face a tough battle to pitch himself in.
The problem so far this year is balls in play, as it usually is with a pitcher like Sonny. His walk rate has dropped slightly through his first two starts, but it has taken his K/9 down with it on a much more dramatic rate. That leaves more balls in play and up to the fate of chance, and generally hitters will have good luck when they make contact off of Sonny's balls (yes, I said that). His BABIP so far on the year isn't even particularly egregious; he's just been a good bet to serve up the long ball. That will need to stop for him to find success.
Last time out against the Yankees, Sonnanstine had a decent outing, so he is capable of pitching well against this team. In fact, he has a 3.98 career ERA against the Bronx Bombers. He pitched mostly well in his last tilt against Ian Kennedy, tossing six innings and giving up just four runs. But take away a four run Yankee third inning, and Sonnanstine's line looks like this: 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 SO. Not too shabby. Part of the blame for the inning can be placed at the feet of injury as well, since Shawn Riggans was forced to enter the game in the middle of the inning due to an injury to Dioner Navarro. Completely unprepared to deal with a new catcher, Sonny struggled that inning. But in the three immediately succeeding it and the two immediately preceding it, he did just fine.
Sonnanstine struggled somewhat in his last start against the Mariners, walking two while striking out just three as he surrendered four runs on seven hits over six innings. He was pretty thuroughly beaten in that outing, though he was able to eat up some innings in a game that only got worse after he left. Regardless, however, Sonnanstine needs to step it up tonight. He needs to break precedent and pitch like he did for five of six innings in New York. That means utilizing his control and differing arm angles to their fullest advantage, keeping the ball out of play as much as possible, and eliminating the meatballs entirely when he must pitch to contact. His future in the Rays rotation is dependent on him being successful at those things.
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MVP: Carl
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope so...
a breakout game against the Yanks would be huge for both him and the team.
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP Pena
He should still be hot from this weekend
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that would be nice!
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im in the picture. right behind the guy with the blue shirt. what a sweet swing
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
photocredit me
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup
by SRQman on Apr 15, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is exactly what i have been advocating for (also, MVP CC)
Rotation:
1. Kazmir
2. Shields
3. Garza
4. Jackson
5. Niemann
with Sonny moved to the pen where he belongs, and will excell.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part of that article.....
Glover and Dohman are off the team!!!
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine too.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be sorry at all
if things worked out that way. In fact, if it means eliminating the final two scrubs from our bullpen I'm all for moving Sonny and Hammel to the pen.
by Vin on Apr 14, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever it takes to win.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sonny has a good start tonight, and I think we win
Mark him down as my MVP choice.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How is that homerism?
I really want to know.
by Vin on Apr 14, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it just seems like Kennedy defends sonny at every turn
i'm not saying it in a bad way, just jokes man.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I do defend Sonny a lot, because he's constantly under attack. I like him as a pitcher, but I don't think excessively so. He will struggle against some teams, and I will not pick him for those games. But give his track record against New York and a gut feeling I have, I'll go with him today.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just jokin dude
no need to explain to me, it's all casual here i thought.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is
I didn't take offense to it at all, you're fine. I just used your remark as a springboard from which I could elaborate on my opinion of Sonny.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacob Larsen is a good little Christian Boy!
Low Blow? You be the judge....however....I want to keep the, PG Policeman Jake, joke going.
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not funny?
guess that joke was sooooo last week.
Sorry Jake
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP
Bartlett
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes hittable
thats my biggest prob w/ him. yeah he throws strikes, but they are hittable strikes.
by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 yankee hr's in the first inning, way to go andy
by dropkicknu on Apr 14, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops*2
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember
Kennedy is also not very good
by Albertrayon on Apr 14, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
throws strikes too
maybe we can pepper him too
by rglass44 on Apr 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this ump has a wide strike zone. no reason to hit the middle of the plate, andy.
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was that first pitch to aki like, way outside? it wasnt even close to the plate on gametracker
by dropkicknu on Apr 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's like he's trying to quarter the plate
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd hate to say it, but Sonnanstine is turning out to be another Casey Fossum. He just doesn't have the stuff to hang in the majors. I see no progression from his rookie season.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is still really early in the season
give it some time
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree. he just threw three hangers.
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sonny's been very good except for those three hangers
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He throws hangers a lot. Look at his HR totals last year too. And he cannot pitch anywhere near the middle of the plate because his fastball is slow with little movement.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he typically gives up 3 HR in six at-bats
Bad day.
by RATW on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do u know anything about baseball
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is we don't need him. Garza is coming back, Niemann looks like he can hang in the majors (clearly his stuff is far superior to Andy), and Price is on his way. Sonnanstine is a place holder, much like people like Fossum were last season.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fossum was never a plae holder, he was always horrible
sonny will move to the pen, and be perfectly fine as a major leager.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea Neimann looked good...
but how much can you depend on a pitcher who's made one major league start?
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't.
No need to depend on him. If Niemann doesn't make it, odds are any 1 of 3 or 4 other prospect pitchers will. But you at least give him a try, because his stuff is better than Sonnanstine's, and his ceiling is much higher. Clearly his first game wasa success.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree. sonny has much promise and was very unlucky last year.
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nearly all of niemann's outs were recorded by the fly ball. that worries me
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good point webster, but back during his ST starts it looked as if his fastball never got above the opposing hitters knee caps, and hopefully when he gets more comfotable he will be able to dublicate that.
IF only Harry Carey could be arounde for Kosuke.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a difference. A pitcher with a lot of movement can get fly ball outs, whereas a pitcher with little movement watches the ball leave the park. Living with the fly ball is dangerous, but it isn't like the difference in movement isn't apparent between Jeff and Andy.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep this in mind
Sonny is awfull the second time throught the line-up. It should be interesting
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ron Shandler's Take on Sonnanstine
"Sonnanstine's hr/9 number teeters on the edge of gopheritis, and limits his immediate upside. In addition, his window for opportunity may be small with the ample stable of high-ceiling pitching prospects in the Rays' minor league system."
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, ya well i've almost completely traded in my WGN for FSN/ION
IF only Harry Carey could be arounde for Kosuke.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
real fast
hey guys, im new here. im a regular on the rays boards at espn, and i heard about this place so ima give it a try. LETS GO RAYS!!
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome
you will find that this is much better than ESPN. People know what they are talking about :)
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha. im starting to notice. this live caht is pretty cool
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we don't.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for being better
the first time through the lineup.....
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that ball has to be an error
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rays still have a long way to go...
in this one. Kennedy is nothing special as a Yankees prospect. They need to pressure him, and he will crack.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's kinda weird to see red-bulls in the dugouts
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow bartlet. smooth, yea your only human, but your a pro
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey tampa2, it's rshadow from espn...yea, that was a hard shot
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone help me out here?
What is the deal with Bartlett? 2 errors?
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by Mound Visit on Apr 14, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we knew we would get errors
Bartlett commits a decent amount of errors, where he makes up for stuff is with his range
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
naw, that's harsh. but he scared me with that
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to work of a jam sonny. he'll be fine although i think his long term may see him in the bullpen
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even if he almost made it 6-0
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Middle Relief
You don't want him anywhere near the setup role. Not enough pitch movement, too high a HR/9.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
camara man mad me spill my drink for no reason. look like another HR
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i didn't get a good look at the pitch, was it a hanger?
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
ehh he pitched within the park. nothing wrong with that. the cameraman made that look farther than it was
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he needs to
pitch within the park a little bit more
by FanDisplaced on Apr 14, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that wasnt a strike to barty
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i love the big strike zone on this ump. speeds up the game big-time.
hopefully sonny takes notice and doesn't quarter the plate
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CC is allowed to have a bad jump, haha
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow im dumb, i shoulda know now that aki is up, thanks for the heads up
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know why pena hits infront of upton?
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was gonna say
i dont think gamecast would be that far behind haha
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damnit, normal CC would line that into left. what the hell is up with him so far??
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no idea, elast we got a run out of it. but your right, he has been below par so far this year
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why does he have to swing at the first pitch after a 5-pitch walk to aki
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes not swinging at good pitches. but then again thats always been my gripe with him
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont know how yall feel, but i think CC is way way overrated
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how do you figure?
just because he's started slow this year?
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the yanks threw a welfare lineup out there tonight...no cano, no giambi, no posada
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was the worst pitchout i've ever seen
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad News Bears pitchout hit was the worst I've seen.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone still happy with Andy?
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's just "Unlucky"
LOL. He just doesn't have it.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He HAS been unlucky this year and he was getting nearly 53% groundballs.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I assume that you were calling for Edwin Jackson's head after three starts last year?
Because he’s not being held to the same standard as Sonnanstine by some of you. Sonnanstine’s outing last night was flat out unacceptable, it was. But there is a broader picture.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 15, 2008 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
back to the CC discussion
ive actually felt that he was overrated for sometime now.
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sonny is getting Lit up.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and ill tell you why...
he has horrible and i mean horrible pitch recognition, for a guy with the speed he has he doesnt walk enough, and he is a terrible left fielder. (no arm and takes horrible routes but makes up for it with his speed)
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he may not have a great arm
but he is considered the best fielding left fielder in the game.
but agree, hit pitch selection is bad.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because of his range/speed.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but that doesnt make him overrated
just means that he could be that much better
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alone it doesn't, combined with noticeable other flaws he is overrated.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
best left fielder in the game?
on whose standards
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
best fielding left fiellder in the game, and according to the fielding bible
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's based on plays made v. other LFers
Again, that's largely because of his speed/range to make up for bad routes or jumps.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's your point
he has tangibles that make him a better fielder then other LFers. his speed is part of his package, and it helps him be the best fielding left fielder in the game.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that he's not technically sound and survives based on his flash. If/when his speed goes, what happens?
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then he won't be the best fielding left fielder in the game
but as of now, he is.
by davidsmarch on Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over the past three years Posednik and Byrnes have higher +/- than CC.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His routes do suck.
I wouldn't call him a terrible left fielder though. His range generally places him in the middle of the pack, or just slightly better. Which tells you his mechanics suck, because his speed is saving his fielding.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets put in two mediocre pitchers in a row.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So true.
But it's a lost cause. No sense using all our best relievers to stay within 6.
by RayFanNY on Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what would u want to waste your prime
bullpen pitchers in the 4th inning. come on man
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY CANT FOOTBALL SEASON COME SOONER!!!???
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who wants that?
i find myself having less and less interest in the Bucs as time passes. Why wish away a season because of one game?
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. i miss the hell outa football
2. this is frustrating cuz i have been talkin so much crpa 2 my yankee friends
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets get real now, florida is a football state, lots of talent in baseball, but florida revolves around football
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine, but coming onto a baseball site wishing away the season seems a bit pointless to me.
And for the record I could careless what the state revolves around.
"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true, i kno its baseball and 1 game doesnt mean much. but im takin 4 hours out of my day 2 watch this game so i get pretty ticked when we are getting owned like this
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but i can never really turn the game off, at least not for long.
by tampa2time on Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHOULDA JUMPED!
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
longoria
the more i see of him makes me like him more. Just adds another great bat to our lineup that we needed. A Crawford,Pena,Upton,Longoria is a solid middle lineup right there included with Aki leading off and doing small things and bartlett at bottom to be situational as well
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why did we steal there? Moeller is considered a good Defensive catcher
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is anyone else sick of
Junior's aggressive baserunning failures?
by gatorbait on Apr 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
once again we run ourselves out of an inning
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haynes sucks.
Why is he gettig starts over Gomes and Ruggiano... horrible
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rays should have more runs
The waythis lineup is constructed is nonsense-
Riggans 7th? Haynes at all...
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crawford!!!
I would like to reinterate my dislike of Nathan Haynes being on the team. I also don't like Sonnanstine very much either!!!!
And in the interest of fairness and a poor attempt to show some kind of unbiasedness (hey, it's a word, who knew?!), my favorite player makes far to many mental mistakes!
Also, Pena has been HBP a whole lot this season. That's kind of weird.
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind Haynes on team,I don'tlike him starting... Ruggiano is a REAL outfielder and should start
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But oh man
is my favorite player a lot of fun to watch!!!
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats the score?
gamecast decided that they dont want to update anymore
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woohoo
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7-6
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow if Upton doesnt run his way off
this would be tied
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AND THE GAME IS NOT OVER.
THE REAL BEEJAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY is in the house.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LONGOS FIRST CAREER HR!!
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longoria
He did it!!!
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy friggin crap
This is amazing!!!
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I love this kid
too!! I'm sorry I ever doubted you Evan!
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's my hero.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMFG FUCK YOU GIRADI!!!!
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OVERRATE THAT SHIT, BITCHES!
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I FUCKING HATE MATTHEW BERRY.
"I don't know why people love Longoria so much. They should listen to me, Fantasy baseball comes out my ass. Longos gonna bat .255 and hit 20 Home runs. Pick someone else."
Fuck you Matthew Berry.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is Matthew Berry?
Never heard of him....but that usually means that he's a nobody.
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Fantasy guy
for ESPN
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by Tyler on Apr 15, 2008 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can say that........
When I post an interview with him later today.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 15, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EVVVVVVAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN
Holy f'in shi
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
omg this is making my night. this is what the rays do. they fall behind by 7 in the first few innings and then come back
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HELL YEA~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Boricua on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evan Longoria
That is all that needs to be said ladies and gents.
by ClemsonRay on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
still a long way to go fellas...
but hell yea for longoria's first!!!!!
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who would of thought that.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a good time to commend Dohmann
for keeping the Yankees at 7.
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Or if Sonny knew what a pitchout was.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't send him back now
Aybat better get used to being a UTIL player
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doh is da man
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by Boricua on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder who is gonna get my MVP vote tonight
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by Boricua on Apr 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by Boricua on Apr 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow just Wow
MLB.tv decided to start working again for me just in time to see all three bombs. That was amazing, now lets carry it into a win.
by Dbullsfan on Apr 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how are we against rivera? it always seems like the the 9th is a very quick inning for us
by gatorbait on Apr 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no Joba
so we should try to take care of business in this inning
by Albertrayon on Apr 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feel sorry the guy...
but it is nice not worry about having to face Joba tonight.
by ClemsonRay on Apr 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I was thinking.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Reyes looks good so far.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not shockingly.
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Give DOH! his due!
The kid's performance is a solid argument for Game MVP if the Rays pull this thing out.
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This is why
we love this team!!! This is the most exciting team in baseball. They may be inconsistent, and they may be young, and they may make stupid mistakes, but man are they fun to watch when they're confident!
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You jinxing SOB.
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I bet you regret typing all that out now
by Albertrayon on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
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Wow
Cano killed that ball...
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHY DO YOU FUCKING DO THIS TO ME RAYS?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering Al's pitched well minus one outing...
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time Reyes got hit that hard
He got tasered
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rotfl. Good ole' UF Humor.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it too soon for a "reyes getting arrested" joke?
by Albertrayon on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never too soon
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next time I go to the Hyde Park Cafe
I'll get the Reyes Punch
by gatorbait on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He tripped over himself?
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yes, into a ceramic pot
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cano is like 1 for the last 50 and then he comes off the bench and homers...ridiculous
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROTFL exactly. You know what I'm talking about. Good ole' UF boys.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i knew exactly what your talking about
but, being up in Gville, I am so sick of that phrase
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sort of sick of it myself. That and damn "jorts" jokes from UGA fans.
They should talk to us when they start beating us consistently.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
being from fsu...
i'm not tired of it at all.... as it's all we got goin for us right now haha
by ams05g on Apr 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Hows it feel to lose 4 in a row to us :D
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he comes back and makes Damon look silly. FFS
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least we have the best part of our lineup comeing up with haynes, bartlett and aki
by Jombari on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gomes could make himself useful and do the only thing he does well, homer.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes hasn't looked good yet once
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked fine on opening day and getting Duncan out, not to mention Friday night.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reyes hasn't looked good since the first half of last year
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FUCK
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glover? Crap.
Human white flag.
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GET PERCIVAL UP JESUS
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man i dont have a good feeling about this abreu atbat
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ROTFL
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I have a bad feeling about this at bat.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should flip flop Wheeler and Reyes
7th and 8th
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I don't know. I'd rather have Wheeler work the 8th than the 7th.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. And A-Rod is up.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There was no reason to overrun or dive for that.
If he missed it, it would of been a run.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought haynes was supposed to be great defensively?
by websterjtc on Apr 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance
Ruggiano isn't that good defensively. Average at best. He wouldn't have come close to that. If Haynes reads that well, he gets there. Ruggs doesn't have a chance. The only full game I've seen him play, he had 2 fly balls, one he misread into a 3 base error, and the other he misjudged and didn't put himself into good position to make a throw home an a runner scored on what should have been a very close play. Now that was probably due mainly to the dome and not being used to playing there, but he's not a savior and is just average in RF.
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glo Glo Gadget Flow time.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glover Vs. A-Rod
Ted Williams is a very nervous man.
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I think I'm going to throw up.
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0-1
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1-1. As long as he keeps it away from A-Rod.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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WTF ARE YOU SMOKING
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Not Tebow's cock apparently.
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....
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate him more than I hate Sonnanstine!
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by Tyler on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cold.
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Thats why.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dohmann and Glover doing well, Sonny doing bad?
I don't even know what the hell my life is coming to anymore.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Basically everything you've predicted has been opposite.
Predict a NY win.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mo is shutdown...
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Why the hell is he bunting when we're down by 1.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAYNES GET HIT SHIT
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Why is Haynes
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He's the worst hitter
I've see in the big leagues in a long time. I cannot remember one worse.
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