4/14: New York (6-7) at RAYS (6-6)
New York Yankees at Tampa Bay Rays, Apr 14, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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News & Links:
- Joe Smith of the St. Petersburg Times has some good news on the injury front for the Rays: RHP Matt Garza played catch for the second straight day and reported feeling well. Manager Joe Maddon said that Garza was going so well that he could be back on the early end of the team's estimated two to four week recovery timetable. Garza will throw a bullpen session on Tuesday and could make a rehab outing after that.
- Meanwhile, LHP Kurt Birkins will pitch an inning in an extended spring training game on Tuesday as he tries to recover from a left elbow strain.
- Rays Index has an interesting take on the potential dilemma the Rays will face when LHP Scott Kazmir and RHP Matt Garza return. They suggest a new alignment for the rotation and bullpen that they say would produce the first staff full of 12 major leaguers in Rays history. Check out how they'd like to see things shake out.
- Baseball America has a good article up on RHP Jeremy Hellickson's being more prepared this season. The article quotes Dick Bosman, the Rays pitching coordinator, as crediting Hellickson's improved preparedness to a new approach that has him worker harder in the off-season to come into camp ready, instead of using spring training as his sole time to get ready for the year.
Pitching Matchup:
| IP | ERA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| NYY | RH I. Kennedy |
19.0 | 1.89 | 236 | 7.11 | 4.26 | 1.67 | 0.47 | .565 | 1.16 | 0.52 | 14.53 |
| RAYS | Sonnanstine | 130.2 | 5.85 | 77 | 6.68 | 1.79 | 3.73 | 1.24 | .812 | 1.35 | 0.91 | 16.06 |
RH Ian Patrick Kennedy-One of the Yankees' fabled young "trio" of starters takes to the hill tonight looking for redemption against the team that roughed him up over a week ago. The Rays blasted Kennedy in his first, and as yet only, start of the season, tagging him for six runs in 2.1 innings of work. The outing was payback itself for Kennedy's dominant performance in his major league debut, in which he limited the Rays to just one earned run over seven innings of work. This will still be just Kennedy's second start of the year, as he was skipped over in the rotation last week. He did pitch three innings out of the bullpen in Kansas City though. Most likely, however, Kennedy's rough outing on the 4th of April won't be his last. The Yankees, desperate for pitching, rushed Kennedy up to the major leagues during the stretch run last year after he threw just 149 major league innings. The strategy worked, for three starts, as Kennedy finished last year with a 1.89 ERA. But the young righty was excessively lucky on balls in play, and while his walk rate wasn't alarming, it reached the level where it could hurt you if that luck started going the other way.
Still, the Yankees hope that at least some of that luck will hold throughout the season. They are counting on Kennedy and fellow young right-hander Phil Hughes to guide the rotation into a new era. At some point, RHP Joba Chamberlain could join that mix as well. In the transition period, though, things are likely to be messy. The Yankees had better hope that LHP Andy Pettitte still has one more season left in the tank, that RHP Mike Mussina won't be complete garbage, and that RHP Chien-Ming Wang will continue to pitch spectacularly well. A volatile season is in the cards for both Hughes and Kennedy, and New York had better hope that they have the resources to withstand the turbulent times.
RH Andy Sonnanstine-The Rays' control specialist right-hander makes his third start of the season tonight, his second against the Yankees. The onus is on Sonnanstine early in the season to prove himself worthy of a rotation spot. With RHPs Edwin Jackson, Jeff Niemann, and Jason Hammel performing exceedingly well so far this season, Sonnanstine will need to improve his pitching to assure that he will still occupy a rotation spot when LHP Scott Kazmir and RHP Matt Garza return from their respective injuries. So far, it has been an uphill battle. Jackson, Niemann, and Hammel have all outpitched Sonnanstine by quite a bit thus far. You have to figure that their performances, irrespective of whether they can be sustained, have thus far earned them a leg-up in the battle to stick in the rotation. Two pitchers will need to give way when Kazmir and Garza return, so Sonny will face a tough battle to pitch himself in.
The problem so far this year is balls in play, as it usually is with a pitcher like Sonny. His walk rate has dropped slightly through his first two starts, but it has taken his K/9 down with it on a much more dramatic rate. That leaves more balls in play and up to the fate of chance, and generally hitters will have good luck when they make contact off of Sonny's balls (yes, I said that). His BABIP so far on the year isn't even particularly egregious; he's just been a good bet to serve up the long ball. That will need to stop for him to find success.
Last time out against the Yankees, Sonnanstine had a decent outing, so he is capable of pitching well against this team. In fact, he has a 3.98 career ERA against the Bronx Bombers. He pitched mostly well in his last tilt against Ian Kennedy, tossing six innings and giving up just four runs. But take away a four run Yankee third inning, and Sonnanstine's line looks like this: 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 SO. Not too shabby. Part of the blame for the inning can be placed at the feet of injury as well, since Shawn Riggans was forced to enter the game in the middle of the inning due to an injury to Dioner Navarro. Completely unprepared to deal with a new catcher, Sonny struggled that inning. But in the three immediately succeeding it and the two immediately preceding it, he did just fine.
Sonnanstine struggled somewhat in his last start against the Mariners, walking two while striking out just three as he surrendered four runs on seven hits over six innings. He was pretty thuroughly beaten in that outing, though he was able to eat up some innings in a game that only got worse after he left. Regardless, however, Sonnanstine needs to step it up tonight. He needs to break precedent and pitch like he did for five of six innings in New York. That means utilizing his control and differing arm angles to their fullest advantage, keeping the ball out of play as much as possible, and eliminating the meatballs entirely when he must pitch to contact. His future in the Rays rotation is dependent on him being successful at those things.
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic." - Robert S. Weider
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
im in the picture. right behind the guy with the blue shirt. what a sweet swing
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by St Pete Native on Apr 14, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
this is exactly what i have been advocating for (also, MVP CC)
Rotation:
1. Kazmir
2. Shields
3. Garza
4. Jackson
5. Niemann
with Sonny moved to the pen where he belongs, and will excell.
Mine too.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be sorry at all
if things worked out that way. In fact, if it means eliminating the final two scrubs from our bullpen I'm all for moving Sonny and Hammel to the pen.
Whatever it takes to win.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Sonny has a good start tonight, and I think we win
Mark him down as my MVP choice.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
it just seems like Kennedy defends sonny at every turn
i'm not saying it in a bad way, just jokes man.
Well
I do defend Sonny a lot, because he's constantly under attack. I like him as a pitcher, but I don't think excessively so. He will struggle against some teams, and I will not pick him for those games. But give his track record against New York and a gut feeling I have, I'll go with him today.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It is
I didn't take offense to it at all, you're fine. I just used your remark as a springboard from which I could elaborate on my opinion of Sonny.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 14, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacob Larsen is a good little Christian Boy!
Low Blow? You be the judge....however....I want to keep the, PG Policeman Jake, joke going.
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I'd hate to say it, but Sonnanstine is turning out to be another Casey Fossum. He just doesn't have the stuff to hang in the majors. I see no progression from his rookie season.
it is still really early in the season
give it some time
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The bottom line is we don't need him. Garza is coming back, Niemann looks like he can hang in the majors (clearly his stuff is far superior to Andy), and Price is on his way. Sonnanstine is a place holder, much like people like Fossum were last season.
fossum was never a plae holder, he was always horrible
sonny will move to the pen, and be perfectly fine as a major leager.
Yea Neimann looked good...
but how much can you depend on a pitcher who's made one major league start?
You don't.
No need to depend on him. If Niemann doesn't make it, odds are any 1 of 3 or 4 other prospect pitchers will. But you at least give him a try, because his stuff is better than Sonnanstine's, and his ceiling is much higher. Clearly his first game wasa success.
good point webster, but back during his ST starts it looked as if his fastball never got above the opposing hitters knee caps, and hopefully when he gets more comfotable he will be able to dublicate that.
IF only Harry Carey could be arounde for Kosuke.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Keep this in mind
Sonny is awfull the second time throught the line-up. It should be interesting
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Ron Shandler's Take on Sonnanstine
"Sonnanstine's hr/9 number teeters on the edge of gopheritis, and limits his immediate upside. In addition, his window for opportunity may be small with the ample stable of high-ceiling pitching prospects in the Rays' minor league system."
haha, ya well i've almost completely traded in my WGN for FSN/ION
IF only Harry Carey could be arounde for Kosuke.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions
real fast
hey guys, im new here. im a regular on the rays boards at espn, and i heard about this place so ima give it a try. LETS GO RAYS!!
welcome
you will find that this is much better than ESPN. People know what they are talking about :)
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No we don't.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for being better
the first time through the lineup.....
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
The Rays still have a long way to go...
in this one. Kennedy is nothing special as a Yankees prospect. They need to pressure him, and he will crack.
we knew we would get errors
Bartlett commits a decent amount of errors, where he makes up for stuff is with his range
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
way to work of a jam sonny. he'll be fine although i think his long term may see him in the bullpen
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even if he almost made it 6-0
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Middle Relief
You don't want him anywhere near the setup role. Not enough pitch movement, too high a HR/9.
lol
ehh he pitched within the park. nothing wrong with that. the cameraman made that look farther than it was
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he needs to
pitch within the park a little bit more
i dont know how yall feel, but i think CC is way way overrated
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Bad News Bears pitchout hit was the worst I've seen.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's just "Unlucky"
LOL. He just doesn't have it.
He HAS been unlucky this year and he was getting nearly 53% groundballs.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So I assume that you were calling for Edwin Jackson's head after three starts last year?
Because he’s not being held to the same standard as Sonnanstine by some of you. Sonnanstine’s outing last night was flat out unacceptable, it was. But there is a broader picture.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 15, 2008 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
back to the CC discussion
ive actually felt that he was overrated for sometime now.
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Sonny is getting Lit up.
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and ill tell you why...
he has horrible and i mean horrible pitch recognition, for a guy with the speed he has he doesnt walk enough, and he is a terrible left fielder. (no arm and takes horrible routes but makes up for it with his speed)
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he may not have a great arm
but he is considered the best fielding left fielder in the game.
but agree, hit pitch selection is bad.
Only because of his range/speed.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
but that doesnt make him overrated
just means that he could be that much better
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Alone it doesn't, combined with noticeable other flaws he is overrated.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That's based on plays made v. other LFers
Again, that's largely because of his speed/range to make up for bad routes or jumps.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
what's your point
he has tangibles that make him a better fielder then other LFers. his speed is part of his package, and it helps him be the best fielding left fielder in the game.
My point is that he's not technically sound and survives based on his flash. If/when his speed goes, what happens?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Over the past three years Posednik and Byrnes have higher +/- than CC.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
His routes do suck.
I wouldn't call him a terrible left fielder though. His range generally places him in the middle of the pack, or just slightly better. Which tells you his mechanics suck, because his speed is saving his fielding.
Lets put in two mediocre pitchers in a row.
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So true.
But it's a lost cause. No sense using all our best relievers to stay within 6.
what would u want to waste your prime
bullpen pitchers in the 4th inning. come on man
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Who wants that?
i find myself having less and less interest in the Bucs as time passes. Why wish away a season because of one game?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
1. i miss the hell outa football
2. this is frustrating cuz i have been talkin so much crpa 2 my yankee friends
lets get real now, florida is a football state, lots of talent in baseball, but florida revolves around football
That's fine, but coming onto a baseball site wishing away the season seems a bit pointless to me.
And for the record I could careless what the state revolves around.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
SHOULDA JUMPED!
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longoria
the more i see of him makes me like him more. Just adds another great bat to our lineup that we needed. A Crawford,Pena,Upton,Longoria is a solid middle lineup right there included with Aki leading off and doing small things and bartlett at bottom to be situational as well
Haynes sucks.
Why is he gettig starts over Gomes and Ruggiano... horrible
Rays should have more runs
The waythis lineup is constructed is nonsense-
Riggans 7th? Haynes at all...
Crawford!!!
I would like to reinterate my dislike of Nathan Haynes being on the team. I also don't like Sonnanstine very much either!!!!
And in the interest of fairness and a poor attempt to show some kind of unbiasedness (hey, it's a word, who knew?!), my favorite player makes far to many mental mistakes!
Also, Pena has been HBP a whole lot this season. That's kind of weird.
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I don't mind Haynes on team,I don'tlike him starting... Ruggiano is a REAL outfielder and should start
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
But oh man
is my favorite player a lot of fun to watch!!!
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AND THE GAME IS NOT OVER.
THE REAL BEEJAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY is in the house.
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LONGOS FIRST CAREER HR!!
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Holy friggin crap
This is amazing!!!
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I love this kid
too!! I'm sorry I ever doubted you Evan!
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
OMFG FUCK YOU GIRADI!!!!
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OVERRATE THAT SHIT, BITCHES!
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I FUCKING HATE MATTHEW BERRY.
"I don't know why people love Longoria so much. They should listen to me, Fantasy baseball comes out my ass. Longos gonna bat .255 and hit 20 Home runs. Pick someone else."
Fuck you Matthew Berry.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is Matthew Berry?
Never heard of him....but that usually means that he's a nobody.
by Jacob Larsen on Apr 15, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You can say that........
When I post an interview with him later today.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 15, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Evan Longoria
That is all that needs to be said ladies and gents.
Who would of thought that.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like a good time to commend Dohmann
for keeping the Yankees at 7.
Or if Sonny knew what a pitchout was.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
can't send him back now
Aybat better get used to being a UTIL player
Wow just Wow
MLB.tv decided to start working again for me just in time to see all three bombs. That was amazing, now lets carry it into a win.
Feel sorry the guy...
but it is nice not worry about having to face Joba tonight.
Thats what I was thinking.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Al Reyes looks good so far.
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Not shockingly.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Give DOH! his due!
The kid's performance is a solid argument for Game MVP if the Rays pull this thing out.
This is why
we love this team!!! This is the most exciting team in baseball. They may be inconsistent, and they may be young, and they may make stupid mistakes, but man are they fun to watch when they're confident!
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You jinxing SOB.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Cano killed that ball...
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WHY DO YOU FUCKING DO THIS TO ME RAYS?
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Considering Al's pitched well minus one outing...
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Last time Reyes got hit that hard
He got tasered
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rotfl. Good ole' UF Humor.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
never too soon
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He tripped over himself?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, into a ceramic pot
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
ROTFL exactly. You know what I'm talking about. Good ole' UF boys.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i knew exactly what your talking about
but, being up in Gville, I am so sick of that phrase
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sort of sick of it myself. That and damn "jorts" jokes from UGA fans.
They should talk to us when they start beating us consistently.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Hows it feel to lose 4 in a row to us :D
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And he comes back and makes Damon look silly. FFS
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Gomes could make himself useful and do the only thing he does well, homer.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked fine on opening day and getting Duncan out, not to mention Friday night.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Glover? Crap.
Human white flag.
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GET PERCIVAL UP JESUS
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ROTFL
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about this at bat.
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Should flip flop Wheeler and Reyes
7th and 8th
I don't know. I'd rather have Wheeler work the 8th than the 7th.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. And A-Rod is up.
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There was no reason to overrun or dive for that.
If he missed it, it would of been a run.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a chance
Ruggiano isn't that good defensively. Average at best. He wouldn't have come close to that. If Haynes reads that well, he gets there. Ruggs doesn't have a chance. The only full game I've seen him play, he had 2 fly balls, one he misread into a 3 base error, and the other he misjudged and didn't put himself into good position to make a throw home an a runner scored on what should have been a very close play. Now that was probably due mainly to the dome and not being used to playing there, but he's not a savior and is just average in RF.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I'm going to throw up.
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1-1. As long as he keeps it away from A-Rod.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF ARE YOU SMOKING
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Tebow's cock apparently.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate him more than I hate Sonnanstine!
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That's cold.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats why.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Dohmann and Glover doing well, Sonny doing bad?
I don't even know what the hell my life is coming to anymore.
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Basically everything you've predicted has been opposite.
Predict a NY win.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Mo is shutdown...
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the hell is he bunting when we're down by 1.
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HAYNES GET HIT SHIT
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Haynes
hitting here?
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Haynes never seems to fail us....FUCK
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COME ON BARTY
ehhhh
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get in the weight room.....
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Rivera=washed up.
I'd be ok if Aki gets out, and Crawford, Pena, Upton, Longo get a shot at him. 4 All-Stars IMO
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He blew a few saves on us last year. It can happen again.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone please hit Maddon i the head with a torque wrench
cuz Haynes SUUUCCCKKKKKKSSSSS
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Lol. Exciting game I must admit though.
Their going to win it in the ninth. Book it.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize we're missing a lot of people, but.. c'mon, there's gotta be better options than Haynes in right every other night. He simply should never be a starter.
John Rodriguez?
Why can't
Ruggs start? I'm not a huge Ruggiano fan, but man, he can hit a little at least. Haynes hits like me.
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Same.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I've been trying to say.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I never disagreed with you
I want to like him too, he's from Lutz, my hometown. But I really don't want him on my favorite baseball team, even if he gets 4 outs without a run tonight!
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Ya he hasn't tied the game or given us the lead in 2 whole days, he is definately due
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
That first FB to Ensberg= Right down the middle.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Great, we now have a pro wrestler behind homeplate
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He's been there since last year...
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I met him last year
The dude is freakin nuts! It was only for a second, but you could tell, he's crazy.
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That's incredible that he lives back there....
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Knobbs
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You and your 7th grade sarcasm.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm clearly 6th grade, I mean, rally rooster? Do you think that's 8th grade level?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to admit, good K pitch Glover. Get this final out.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Throws hard? Tall? I don't know.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there you go!
Lets go guys, our 4 best hitters are coming up!
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He sure as hell deserves it.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
we wanna win don't we?
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by Matt Bishoff on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Time for a comeback.
First multi-hit game for Longo. And all the hits were xtra base hits. Against the Yanks. I think Hes MLB ready.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
At least he will have to face our best...
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
rotfl.
And it almost hit him.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If Carl swings first pitch I swear.
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WTF MAN!?
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
We need Eduardo Perez
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We need Evan Longoria
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Him and his 460 FT bombs.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
not Reyes
I think he's done. Had a good half-season last year, but has returned to the washed-out list since. Before the blood-spitting, maybe he had some trade value. Now, the Rays are stuck with him.
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Mo's good
but that was a putrid at bat.
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DAMMIT
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Pena is due.
STOP SWINGING AT BALLS ALMOST HITTING YOU..
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
That cutter is so nasty on lefties.
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I have a vision of Carlos tying this game
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I'm blind actually, both eyes.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Your on a roll.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Same two pitches to Pena as Crawford.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
That's what she was asked.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Again...that cutter is nasty.
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UPTOONNNNNN
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Cutter.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Keep it going.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Boo
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Fuck you Robinson Cano.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Silk the Shocker let us down
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Nice.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That one was for you.
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Good game...
lots to like, lots to not like
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Shoulda gone with the best from the pen
to try to win this one -- Wheeler & Percival, if necessary, in the 9th.
Losing with Reyes shouldn't have been the choice.
I think he's done. Again.
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what we know....
Haynes should never start again
Sonny should be in the BP
We are goin gto be A-OK when everyone is healthy
by Hazleton Jason on Apr 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Sonny belongs in AAA
That's about the level of his stuff.
He won't be in the rotation long, and I don't think he's cut out to be a reliever, either.
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We hope you enjoyed the broadcast if not the outcome.
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: "I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return," he says. "And so will I. So will I."
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We weren't suppose to win it anyway. If that helps at all.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Dohmann + Glover =/= victory
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Game was kind of upside down
NY fans want Bruney released - but he gets the win. Didn't deserve it but toughed it out for a couple of needed outs.
That's why baseball is so much fun - twists and turns.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We ARE the better team...
We need to win those games....
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Apr 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Moral victories were cute when we sucked, this is time for actual wins.
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by R.J. Anderson on Apr 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Respectfully disagree BDRF
But we're each entitled to our opinion in this case.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Apr 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The bottom line is coming in to this game...
The Rays have outscored the Yankees by 20 runs and I believe have similar ERAs to this point. The Yanks are old, you have no real bullpen with the exception of Mariano Rivera. The Yankees will lose a lot of games, anyone who saying anything different is just being sentimental. If the Yankees were wearing Rays gear, what would the outlook be? The team is OLD. They would talk about dismantle the team and starting off fresh.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Apr 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They have Chamberlain as well.
And Wang is sick. I think we are about equal in pitching when we are at about 100%, while they have a better offense.
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by Cory Alexander on Apr 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about their bull pen.
Chamberlin is good. I did forget to mention him. Wang is dominate. He has been for the last what? Two years.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on Apr 14, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I have mastery of the English language.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
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