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Jake's Take: Hellboy, Dunn and a look into "The Crystal Ball"

From Baseball Prospectus' Monday Morning Ten Pack

Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, High-A Vero Beach (Rays)
Hellickson’s full-season debut last year produced outstanding numbers, but many classified him as a good-not-great prospect because of his smallish stature and the sense that his command and pitchability allowed his admittedly above-average stuff to play that much better against less advanced hitters. The command and pitchability remains, but the stuff has improved this year, as the Iowa native is consistently touching the mid-90s with his fastball these days, including on Sunday, when he whiffed 11 over six innings but allowed one run, which raised his ERA to 0.93 in five starts. In 29 innings for the affiliate that still has the guts to put the ‘Devil’ in front of Rays, Hellickson has 41 strikeouts and two, count 'em two walks, and just like that, the Rays organization has another great prospect.

Montgomery is going to have a nice 1-2-3 punch in less-than-a-month,  hopefully(sure seems that way)

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The Dunn Scenario

Before today, I was working on a piece about how the Rays should be licking their chops at the firing of Wayne Krivsky and the hiring of Walt Jocketty as the GM.

Why is that?

Well, Walt has always been known for doing things his own way and dealing old contracts to get players of his liking. He basically purged the Cardinals farm system, while GM of St. Louis, to nothingness just to get veterans. It may work the opposite, with Jocketty looking for prospects instead of vets but nothing is for sure just yet, but we call can say that we seen it coming once Jocketty slumps comfortabley into his chair and gets down to business.

Don't believe me?

DRays Bay's pal and Roto Junkie's own, Jason Collette reports that Buck Martinez and Ken Robo, er, Rosenthal were mentioning a nice scenario in which the Rays acquired the services of Adam Dunn.

Just think, a line-up with Pena-Longoria-Dunn batting back-to-back-to-back...

If people thought Longoria was a decent hitter with Hinske hitting after him, just think when you've got a masher with 100+ walk seasons and consistently putting up .400-ish OBPs waiting in the on-deck circle when Evan is hitting.

Must...change...pants...now.....

I just gotta wonder, what would it take to acquire Dunn? McGee? Davis? Brignac? Joel Guzman(I kid, I kid)? We've got prospects, if Jocketty inexplicabley reversed in philosophy, to withstand a trade for a big name player and survive with our top farm system mantle intact.

My only worry is, if we pursued any trade like this....how would we guarantee that he wouldn't nix his option and become a Free Agent once the season ends?

Tough Choices...but nice to be thinking that we could do more damage than what we've already surprisingly done.

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Crystal Ball Time

What does Jake see?

-Well, he sees one of his draft-day favorites Emeel Salem already with over 20 swipes for the season and hitting over .300. Time to move him up to Vero Beach, please.

-Jeremy Hellickson will be moved to Montgomery within the next 2 weeks, replacing him in the Vero Beach rotation will be David Price. Not much of a difference coming from that spot in the rotation, stats-wise.

-Reid Brignac will awaken from his early season hibernation and he will bring his stat line to .270/.356/.407 by midseason.

-Gabe Gross will get at least 2 hits against the Orioles in the next series and one of them will be "big"

-Jake will make a post, with a little help from his friends, which will involve some statistical analysis.

Bzzzzzt, This Concludes Your Reading for Today

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statistical analysis,

oooh, i can’t wait to see who we trash this time around…

by davidsmarch on Apr 28, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey now, stats =/= bashing

Look at the Dohmann piece, I even resisted calling Glover awful.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record though, Glover IS awful.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awfully darn good.

Glover.

Great pitcher or the greatest pitcher.

Discuss.

www.citadel-insurance.com

by SeanDubbs on Apr 28, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

His entry music: Elton John and Kiki Dee’s "Don’t Go Breaking My Heart"

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would say greater pitcher. greater then what? that’s a good question…

by davidsmarch on Apr 28, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Brignac is hitting .270

at the break, he’ll be SLG at least .490

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Apr 28, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey...

My crystal ball has fuzzy numbers….better than my fuzzy ball having crystal numbers.

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 28, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomes time!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Dunn

I’d love to add someone like him or Burrell, but I’m really not sure if acquiring a DH is really in our best interests this season or ever really. Hinske/Gomes/Floyd are fine to me, although if someone like Dunn wants to take less than the prime rate to “Watch it Happen!” so be it.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunn

I had a similar reaction. I love the idea of Dunn in the lineup, but where would he fit in? He is reputedly a terrible fielder and with the increased stress on defense that runs counter. Plus, he certainly is not displacing Crawford which means either he tries to play RF, and unlikely development, or 1B where Pena is ensconced right now and provides fine defense.

So that leaves DH, and while I agree he is an upgrade over Floyd, Gomes, Hinske or any other combination, is the upgrade important enough (well, 40 home runs and a .400 OBP-I suppose that answers that question) or is it worth paying the rest of his $13 million this year and possibly losing him to free agency next year?

It would bring back nyfaninlalaland to ask whether we are trying to acquire every left-handed DH bat available.

by bobr on Apr 28, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we were to deal with him

I have to believe an extension window would be a requirement.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay someone start a realistic thread. we aren’t signing Dunn to a long-term deal.

by websterjtc on Apr 28, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Yo

It’s a crystal ball, random prediction….also, Ken Rosenthal and Buck Martinez were chatting it up on XM. If you’re going to blame anyone, blame them.

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 28, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the rays would get a lot of backlash if they signed Dunn before they locked up Upton or Kazmir.

(i know, we have them under control anyway, but i’d like to see them locked up asap anyway).

by websterjtc on Apr 28, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Takes two to tango.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 28, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

MiLB

screws up all the time, that has to be a mistake…doesn’t it?

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Apr 29, 2008 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, but you’re probably right.

by websterjtc on Apr 29, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm looking into my "crystal ball of hopes"

and i see Birkins getting Optioned, Reyes getting released, Sonny moved to the pen, and Kazmir taking his place as king of our rotation.

people defend Reyes, but the man is no longer one of the best 12 pitchers on our team. say what you will about Dohmann and Glover, but Reyes has aged a lot from the first half of last year to this year, i think he might about be done.

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Reasons why Salam more then likely will stay with the Catfish... all season

1. Matulia is doing well
2. Garrett Groce is doing well
3 Desmond Jennings will comback…

One will be promoted to Montgomery, right?
Nope, you have Eldridge doing well in Montgomery.

Maybe: Jennings will be promoted to Montgomery. Although I wouldn’t be suprised in Groce is promoted because is a Righty, and he spent last season in Vero.

Just thought I rain on the parade a little. Go Rays!!!

In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Apr 29, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Eldridge isn't tearing the cover off of the ball.

And besides, he’s 26 and already a minor league veteran. I doubt the Rays will hold up a prospect for promotion and short-change his development just to preserve Eldridge’s playing time.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 30, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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