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4/29: RAYS (14-11) at Baltimore (14-11)

Tampa Bay @ Baltimore


RAYS at Baltimore

7:05; RAYS TV/ION
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
RAYS RH J. Hammel
85.0 6.14
74 6.78 4.24 1.60 1.27 .866 1.65 0.94 18.72
BAL LH G. Olson
32.1 7.79 59 7.79 7.79 1.00 1.11 .917 2.16 0.70 19.95

All Statistics from 2007 Season

GO RAYS!

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MVP: Hinske

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Yay game day threads make me happy!

MVP- Carl Crawford

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh and some more bets for you guys

Over/Under hours spent studying for Pre-calc Final – 2

Over/Under Hours spent playing GTA4- 4

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Under, Over

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

GTA Hours

24 Hours

You will miss your Pre-Calc Final

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Apr 29, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't bet against that.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish....

2 more days and I am free…. I have to intern but I am interning with the P.E. teacher at the lower school. Does it get any easier?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lucky. I still have the rest of this week and all of next left.

If you want results, press the red button. The rest are useless.

by Katie on Apr 29, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

MVP: Hammel.

I still have not picked a bad MVP. I’m just going to keep going with pitchers till I fail.

My Blog. Check it out if you wish.

by Cory Alexander on Apr 29, 2008 6:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Gameday threads need to be started earlier.

by websterjtc on Apr 29, 2008 6:02 PM EDT   0 recs

/agree

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Odd, we actually thought they started TOO early.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I only wish for home games so I can my MVP pick in on time.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, that they started too early or too late?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Generally, you guys are fine

They should only really start once the line-ups have been posted, IMO.
I really hate what the RaysBB.com threads have regressed into.

by Vin on Apr 29, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rest assured

We don’t argue about who gets to do the GDTs.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What time would you like them to be posted?

I moved the time up to one hour before first pitch because no one ever really posted in the first hour and I thought no one had much use for it. I’ll be glad to tailor the start time to the general mood.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Apr 30, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So baseball prospectus projects us to win 90 games this year.

by websterjtc on Apr 29, 2008 6:03 PM EDT   0 recs

stop!

I want it to happen so bad just the idea makes me giddy

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you don’t have a link for that, do you?

by websterjtc on Apr 29, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Garret Olson is a big-time prospect. Hopefully we had some good advanced scouting

by websterjtc on Apr 29, 2008 6:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Um

In his short stint at the end of last season, he was pretty hittable.

He’s big, he’s a lefty and his fastball tops out in the low-90s.

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well then he must be healthy. my mom walks a lot, and she’s real healthy…

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

MVP

Real Beej

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Apr 29, 2008 6:09 PM EDT   0 recs

ok GTA hours are begining to start

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Go bag you some virtual hookers!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Finished a mission

finally got a knife… I really need a gun so I can get some hookers than cap them.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice. I should go buy SA.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hinske batting 8th? weird!

i’ll take Hammel for MVP.

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Good feeling about this

I think Hinske will have a good game down in the line-up. I hope so at least I’m starting him over Xavier Nady in my fantasy line-up tonight.

by Dbullsfan on Apr 29, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

MVP

Bossman Jr. big game tonight.

Count me in as those not getting much studying for a final tomorrow during the hours of 7-10 tonight.

by Dbullsfan on Apr 29, 2008 6:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Per Rosenthal
The expected return of left-hander Scott Kazmir from an elbow strain this weekend will give the Rays six starters for five spots. Right-handers Edwin Jackson and Jason Hammel are out of minor-league options, so the most logical move might be to stick righty Andy Sonnanstine in the bullpen. Jackson, who has produced dominant performances against the Yankees, Red Sox and Mariners, is drawing the most trade interest. ...

by Vin on Apr 29, 2008 6:17 PM EDT   0 recs

My perdiction

Jackson will be gone by next weekend…..I’m just curious on what we will get in return?

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Apr 29, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or Hammel

I think one of the 2 will be moved. With the solid pitching in the minors and another #1 pick which could be a college pitcher we have the depth to afford to move one of the 2

by Dbullsfan on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd say package a deal for Jeff Clement

But do we need him? Navarro is hitting well, and restricting Clement to DH duty seems pointless.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

don't count out

sending Howell back to AAA, i could see that happen aswell.

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I will throw a chair if we demote Howell

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really

I would too.

by Vin on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

umm

cut glover? his peripheral stats probably aren’t up to your liking… ;)

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Please do, just enough so he has to go on the 15 DL.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's walk-tastic...

if he’d learn how to strikeout hitters, he’d be at least decent…

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gary Glover for Brian Giles please. ;)

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking of posting about this idea

But it would pretty much nullify the Gross deal.

by GomesSweetGomes on Apr 29, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha, excellent.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jackson has the most trade interest...

because he is the best of the bunch. The easiest and smartest move is to send Sonny down. Do not send JP down. He has proven very effective in long relief.

by save_the_trop on Apr 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or just cut Glover, but everyone hates Sonny because he doesn't throw hard.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't hate Sonny at all...

I think he will have a solid career. He throws hard enough, but he has been the least effective and it is the easiest roster move.

by save_the_trop on Apr 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was being sardonic

Seriously though, cut Glover. I don’t even mind Jackson staying in the rotation, but why keep Glover over Sonny?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glover has an option as well, to GTFO.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's not productive.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Won't last with that K/BB ratio.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not going to last.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How are you so sure? I know you base your opinion on stats,but...

how can you say these things so definitively. Is he going to finish the season with a sub 2 era, probably not. But he is apparently doing his job well and I don’t see why he couldn’t continue to be successful. His stuff must be pretty good if major league hitters are not hitting him hard. I would rather have a pitcher who is careful in the zone and gives up a few walks than have someone who is always in the zone and gets hit hard.

by save_the_trop on Apr 29, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

An oldie, but a goodie

Former Rays Hitting Coach Lee Elia is being honored today, for his tirade to Chicago fans and the media…

Here it is….

Fck those fckin’ fans who come out here and say they’re Cub fans that are supposed to be behind you, rippin’ every fckin’ thing you do. I’ll tell you one fckin’ thing, I hope we get fckin’ hotter than sht, just to stuff it up them 3,000 fckin’ people that show up every fckin’ day, because if they’re the real Chicago fckin’ fans, they can kiss my fckin’ ass right downtown and PRINT IT.

They’re really, really behind you around here…my fckin’ ass. What the fck am I supposed to do, go out there and let my fckin’ players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the fckin’ nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherfckers don’t even work. That’s why they’re out at the fckin’ game. They oughta go out and get a fckin’ job and find out what it’s like to go out and earn a fckin’ living. Eighty-five percent of the fckin’ world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A fckin’ playground for the cocksckers. Rip them motherfckers. Rip them fckin’ cocksckers like the fckin’ players. We got guys bustin’ their fckin’ ass, and them fckin’ people boo. And that’s the Cubs? My fckin’ ass. They talk about the great fckin’ support the players get around here. I haven’t see it this fckin’ year. Everybody associated with this organization have been winners their whole fckin’ life. Everybody. And the credit is not given in that respect.

Alright, they don’t show because we’re 5 and 14…and unfortunately, that’s the criteria of them dumb fifteen motherfckin’ percent that come out to day baseball. The other eighty-five percent are earning a living. I tell you, it’ll take more than a 5 and 12 or 5 and 14 to destroy the makeup of this club. I guarantee you that. There’s some fckin’ pros out there that wanna win. But you’re stuck in a fckin’ stigma of the fckin’ Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals an all that cheap sht. It’s unbelievable. It really is. It’s a disheartening fckin’ situation that we’re in right now. Anybody who was associated with the Cub organization four or five years ago that came back and sees the multitude of progress that’s been made will understand that if they’re baseball people, that 5 and 14 doesn’t negate all that work. We got 143 fckin’ games left.

What I’m tryin’ to say is don’t rip them fckin’ guys out there. Rip me. If you wanna rip somebody, rip my fckin’ ass. But don’t rip them f*ckin’ guys ‘cause they’re givin’ everything they can give. And right now they’re tryin’ to do more than God gave ‘em, and that’s why we make the simple mistakes. That’s exactly why.

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Potty mouth.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Would anyone be upset if we demote Birkens Thursday bring up Reyes

and than Cut Reyes when Kaz comes off Sunday and send Sonny to the pen.

by Dbullsfan on Apr 29, 2008 6:24 PM EDT   0 recs

that was almost my suggestion,

but it didn’t make any sense, and leaves us one short in the pen

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reyes + Jackson for Clement.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt that would be possible, but it is Bill Bavasi.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what would we do with him?

Navarro is doing well and we have so many DH’s up in here.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navy Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

by SRQman on Apr 29, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i’d prefer Giles…

by davidsmarch on Apr 29, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As do I

He’d be a born-again power hitter, leaving Petco

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's a bit older, so you figure he's a tad undervalued

But then I remember DePo/Towers are a great duo.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Apr 29, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I want Josh Towers on the Rays!!

Sike…..I’m bringing it back

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Apr 29, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What are you bringing back?

Towers to TB or the word “sike?”

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not gonna happen

The M’s are about use Clement as a DH, apparently

by Jacob Larsen on Apr 29, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

WTF

Bavasi makes a good move? Good for him.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn