5/21: RAYS (27-19) at OAK (24-23)
by Matt Bishoff on May 21, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | ERA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| RAYS | RH A. Sonnanst. | 57.2 | 4.53 | 90 | 4.68 | 1.72 | 2.73 | 0.94 | .760 | 1.28 | 1.26 | 14.25 |
| OAK | LH D. Eveland | 53.0 | 3.23 | 118 | 6.62 | 3.91 | 1.70 | 0.34 | .651 | 1.28 | 1.38 | 15.98 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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grrrr
Not that we’ll be able to watch it.
Interesting, Eveland and Sonny have identical WHIPs. I smell a regression to the mean for the A’s pitcher.
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
MVP = Sonny Pwnage Maximus
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
It is on MLBtv
But will it be blacked out even though it isnt on local TV here?
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
Survey Says
Yes
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I love baseball, but hate the idiots who run it
If they don’t want my $, so be it
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve had the same argument all year. Half the games are on FSN which is not carried by Bright House in Orlando. Half the games are at home which is blacked out on MLB.tv. I watch religiously and end up having to Gameday it (which I am starting to lean more towards as the pitch cam is super awesome, and they now have video clips minutes after RT), but obviously watching it live is where it’s at. I get out of work at 5 so I could not possibly get to the Trop for first pitch. I am sure this is the plight of 1,000s of other people in Orlando. We need solutions from the clowns in charge.
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
DirecTV is your friend
Barring that, you should be able to get Comcast, or you’ll have to wait for AT&T U-verse.
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that because their TV deal is worth much more than thier internet deal
so making the games available over the net undermines their bottom line.
STILL, you think on days where they games are not available in the home market it would make sense for them to unblock the games, they could make even more money is people are buying cable and mlbtv.
by JI on May 21, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're sayin its about money
Who woulda thunk it?
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The stated policy
Is to protect advertising revenue for the local carriers, and to encourage fans to come to the park. But on away games when there is no home TV provider, it makes zero sense…they have been very slow in reviewing their policy
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-blackouts040608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the level of security
(or lack thereof) I think the policy is much more about MLB saving face should a local TV station sue them for lost revenue streams.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
While there is no doubt MLB makes more revenue off of their TV deals than the internet, they probably make a much higher profit margin over the internet. They are selling a product that a third party has actually paid them for the right to create, and all they pay for is the bandwidth.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP: Pena
He is due to make contact sooner or later
"I'd hate to leave right when the getting is good." -CC
I will Paypal $100.00
To anyone who lives outside of the state of Florida and is willing to set up an MLBtv account for me ($79.95)
....Taking matters in my own hands.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
as long as your IP address is coming from outside the Rays broadcast territory, you should be fine
by JI on May 21, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
weird
talk about nudge-nudge wink-wink…thanks
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I may have to try it
I always thought it was by your billing address
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the credit card billing address...
I have gotten games in Tampa on my computer because my billing address is outside of florida.
I use it
to get around FOX blackouts, or local blackouts when I am somewhere where there’s no access to cable. It might have been based on billing at one time, but it is now based on IP address.
by JI on May 21, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
*#$^#*@& Cards...
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That series pissed me off.
Because of that series, and the lack of talent from the Brewers, the Rays are 1 game back of the Sux. That annoys me.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could say the same thing.
But, it is what it WAS. So let’s have some fun and go for the dominate sweep over the Moneyballas’
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP: Sonny
This season has been a blast.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
MVP - Sonny
God I wish I could watch this game! Two games I can’t stay up for, then the one during “normal” hours is blocked. Unreal…
Ha!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
How bout that loser with the whistle last night.
That had to be the most annoying thing I have heard during a game. It sounded like a fire alarm going off for 3 hours. How could the people around that tool not beat his ass?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
... and they say our cowbells are annoying.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The cowbells are used in certain moments when the crowd is loud anyhow
Like two-strike counts or certain clutch situations, the whistle was non-stop.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
im not home but it looks like you can watch the feed here
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=12892&part=sports
9 = 8
The links are dead anyone else having this problem?
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
everytime i try
it keeps saying “this account has been suspended”, even though i just registered…. wtf?
I saw that myself David
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope but when I get off of work I will be sure to do that
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Gomes is better the Cust
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Cust = E. Brown
I didn’t see the vote but Brown must have been MVP last night right?
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Gomes is under the baseball every time
Gomes 600 AB = 300 SO
Is is that far fetched?
Mound Visit
Gomes 600 AB = 75 HR
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomes is being played like a veteran at the end of his career.
He is a young guy with a lot to offer. Will he hit .280? Probably not. Could he hit 40 home runs. I could see that. Either use him or waive and let Ruggiano play.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah right....
I will give him 35 maybe…most pitchers are not left handed
How many men are going to be stranded on third?
Mound Visit
If he is not given a opportunity more then once every other week
I can’t honestly tell you.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if its Beej he would get picked or caught 4 feet from the bag
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing as he has 1188 career AB's
and 382 K’s, its ridiculously far-fetched. He’s striking out a lot this year…ill give you that. But you’re getting ridiculous with your Gomes criticisms.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should get rid of Gross and bring Ruggs back up.
Today would be a perfect opportunity for him. Righties are hitting over .300 against Everland. But, he sits in Durham collecting dust.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
In other news:
The Devil Rays beat the Yankees 10-6
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
In Tampa.
The Tampa Yankees lost to the Vero Beach Devil Rays 10-6.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the sentence:
“Rays have a winning record”, or “Rays are in the hunt for October.”
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
check out mlb.com
the home page says it is only on mlb.tv, but I imagine it is blacked out.
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
then how stupid is that headline
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Could the Royals please win a game.
Please.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
Prediction
Royals get no-hit
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Prediction
Joey G goes yard!
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
and pitcher...
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
He might jump over the wall, but he aint hitting a ball over it
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Aki is on 2nd.
Go Rays!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
Is BJ the new Chuck Norris?
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I would say Bruce Willis
He dislocates his shoulder and slams it back into place by slaming his arm into the centerfield wall
Mound Visit
That's a spin off of a Reggie Nelson thing
by Cory Alexander on May 21, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
or the Freddie Smoot thing...
hadn’t heard it used about Reggie, but Smoot said that (and few understood it) his first time playing for the skins…
Come on BJ
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
this myp2p isn't working for me,
all i get is it loads, then i get a picture of the earth, and that’s it.
#@$%@%#%
This really sucks…
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
Well, Pena hit a fly ball to center to end the inning
Stranding Aki at 2nd.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
Is there a way we can just listen to the game without paying?
I don’t wanna go in my car cuz the signal sucks in Sarasota.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
1250 WHNZ if you are in the Bay Area.
I don’t know of the statiion in Sarasota though. Sorry.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It comes through in Sarasota
it is just static and terrible…..
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
That's just Dave Wills
He is still pissed he is not in Chicago.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no dice
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It won't work. MLB licencing.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
... the Nazis
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
If I was retarded. No comment please.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, so was mine.
Meh!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonny hit 90
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Was a strong wind behind him?
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone hits 90 on Gameday
I’ve been watching it all season. The highest I’ve ever seen it register someone as throwing is 92, even when some of you guys are talking about Jackson and others hitting the high 90s. I swear it must be off. And even if someone is throwing soft, the lowest I’ve ever seen it go is 82 or so. It has a very odd range.
by Steve Slowinski on May 21, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonny with with Strike out!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
I'm going to be craving a cigarette pretty soon without Mad Dog to yell at me that he doesn't smoke.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
2 K's for the Kid from Ohio.
Sonnastine. The Pride of KKent State!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
i’m guessing billy beane told the A’s to swing because this guy doesnt walk anyone….and Maddon told Sonny to throw balls because they’re gonna be swinging away.
9 = 8
That would have been out
If the Rays were playing in that joke of a ballpark known as Fenway.
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The monster is the same color as every dumpster in Florida
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And looks like Arsenio Hall's from in 90's...
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Woo Woo Woo
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by Sandy Kazmir on May 21, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally home and set up with Gameday Audio
Go Rays! Go Sonny!
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MVP MVP MVP MVP
lets give it up for Emil Brown
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
3Ks!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
LOL @ Emil
Siddown. Lock it down a little bit more, Sonny, you may need those pitches later.
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i know i know i meant to say gomes
Protect the Trop: Keep northerners out.
by St Pete Native on May 21, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Two umps with super-size east-to-west strike zones, and today we get one that's north-to-south and extra-svelte
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I spoke too soon
Picasso drew this dude’s strike zone, obviously.
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the getaway day strike zone
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like aki and barty at the top..
I like a line up of:
Aki
Bartlett
Crawford
Upton
Longoria
Pena
7th is more intelligent
He’s not getting it done where he is
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will get his swing back
But don’t expect him to make up for lost time. I’d be shocked if he hits above .260 on the year at this point.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i could care less if he hits 260, once he gets his swing back,
and his eye, his obp will jump to hopefully the .380, .390 area, and that’s all i care about.
Realistically he shouldn't be expected to.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
pena strikes out too much and doesn’t get enough xbh to drive in runs. also he strikes out (or ends innings) way too much so evan is up with nobody on way too much. we would be better off giving upton and longoria the chance to drive in some runs.
Strikeout >>> GIDP
Carl has three, Pena one.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone see the thing on worst clean-up hitters since 1957 on hbt?
If Pena doesn’t pick up the slack he may join that list by year’s end…
His OPS+ is 95, team is 103
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure. But Pena is not someone you can rely on consistently for RBIs. Crawford, Upton and Longoria are our ‘consistent’ RBI men. Pena strikes out too much and he simply doesn’t get enough extra base hits. Also Pena ends innings too much and it kills Longoria. Heck I’d be alright flip flopping Pena and Longoria. Although that may be too much too soon for Evan. Also doing an Aki/Barty/CC/Upton/Longoria/Pena approach would allow Carl to hit with more men on base.
Do we REALLY want Carl up with more men on?
His approach isn’t exactly what I want with 2 on nobody out.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i’d say i’d be much more confident with carl up than pena in that situation. pena is the absolute worst person to have up with men on and less than 2 outs.
I disagree.
I’ll take Carlos going to 2-2 and King rather than Carl first pitch hacking into a double play.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Carl, Upton, and Longoria have a extremely higher chance of knocking in a guy on 3rd with 1 out, moving a runner over if need be, driving in a run on 2nd with 2 out, and driving in a run from 1st than Pena. Penas only real RBIs are off home runs. We need guys that are able to sac fly, hit singles, and XBH on a much more consistent basis to drive in men. Pena just doesn’t do it. It is home run or bust.
Singles and SF maybe...
XBH:
Carl: 11
Carlos: 12
Most are homers, sure, but that’s not the point.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugly second at-bat
Good thing he ended up popping out
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dang there goes the perfect game
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Walked on strike 2
Oh jeez…
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Longo, you idiot!
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Gomes you idiot, too.
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Radio made it sound like the ball got by Longo
Hard to tell with no TV
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Cust goes down in three
Someone please hit a ball at the dude with the dog whistle
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Navi not a bad idea
CC getting the day off, however, is
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah, I didn't even know we were down 2-0.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
looks like gomes screwed the play up, not longoria….it looked like a legit ball down the chalk, but gomes couldn’t pick it up and threw it like a girl
Well they both screwed it up…obviously the ball should have never gotten to gomes
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually all for it
He is being improperly used in his current role, meaning we are not getting full value out of him.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruggiano could sit the bench just as well, but he brings less charisma
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
His contact% is a career high 75%
Higher than Evan and B.J.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i think ruggiano should get a legit shot at RF. We don’t really have a long term answer so why not give a good that is producing in AAA a shot? Plus it will give us some more speed
Most of our RF options have been above average (until Gomes now)
And apparently Ruggiano has character flaws.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Na.
But you don’t always need one, as long as your team isn’t the Giants/nursing home age you can go with platoons and short term fixes.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a question
Does errors or hit by pitch help your OBP?
I know it doesn’t affect average at all.
Mound Visit
Helps OBP
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that it is calculated
I would guess that there are only a handful of MLB batters who have a significant effect on how many times they are hit…its interesting that its considered a plus…though I cans ee the argument both ways.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Because I have nothing better to do, I figured up Craig Biggio's:
With HBPs: .363
Without HBPs: .348
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Errors lower OBP
HBP isnt calculated in OBP
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
HBP is, I thought?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I was 1/2 wrong
errors lower OBP, HBP raises it
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And naturally Es would lower it
Since it doesn’t count as a hit, but still holds an AB value.
So if a player goes 1-3 with a HBP and reached on an error he’s reached base three times, but only two count really “count” as reaching base.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Rapping on the bench.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
back from dinner… wish I wasn’t
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Just not our day
Hope J.P. is warming up…
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On the east coast, I hope.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume so
you never hear of a non-injured position player being sent home on an early flight….though I beleive we should see it more often.
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And Sonny takes the five slot?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hellickson has awhile to go. Price will take Sonnys spot. Then Davis and McGee may or may not take Garza/Jackson. The FO will have to look at their projections and do some cost/benefit analysis and determine who to trade. Of course there is always the ‘pen option.
Davis will get a rotation spot before anyone else.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You know its a bad day when we are having gameday converstaions like these
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, it's Price day! Hooray!
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, that's tomorrow.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone going to Vero Beach tomorow?
I am
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
That would be an awful destination for him.
Put Sonny in PETCO and he’s awesomeness defined.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course.
But if Sonny were Brandon Webb it wouldn’t matter, he’d just get his groundballs like nothing.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way I can care less where he goes, as long as we get as much as we can for him. But maybe the ‘pen is the option though.
I'd rather see Sonny take the mound than Garza/Jackson
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Garza…maybe. Jackson I think you are way off base. Jackson has infinitely better stuff than Sonny. And he is just beginning to harness it enough to put up good numbers.
I’d always rather have a guy that walks a few, but doesn’t get hit hard than a guy that walks none but pitches virtual BP.
Basebal teams overvalue stuff guys.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't kick a guy with a 3.29 era out of the rotation just yet...
by save_the_trop on May 21, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
3.58 FIP
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
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'Wind Tunnels' my ass
He is getting shelled
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
Dave Wills
just said that all the fly balls Sonny gives up keep finding ‘wind tunnels’ in the stadium
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomes = wind tunnel?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least we won the series
Obviously the boys just want to go home ASAP.
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How is Sonny 6-1 (well, 6-2 soon) with a 5 ERA?
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peep this
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2005.shtml
look at the records vs. era for this staff… sorry westbrook
He's usually good, but sometimes gets roughed up?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet you blast Jackson for being consistantly great, but getting roughed up sometimes.
by save_the_trop on May 21, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No
I blast Edwin for not throwing strikes, walking people, and being inconsistent.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
While we are capable of coming back from this
Somehow I have a feeling the boys just don’t care.
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Why waste the pen?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, they just don't care
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At Least
Colon is starting for Boston tonight
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
To not waste the pen.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
please tell me again why Sonny and his 5.0 era are better then Jackson and his team leading ERA?
oh yeah, the k:bb rate is better!!
FIPs: Jackson 3.58 Sonny 3.88
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry bro
FIP is one stat i don’t buy into. we have seen sonny pitch, it’s not his fielders that are balooning his ERA, it’s his crappy arm that shouldn’t be in the rotation. jackson has the same fielders….
Bad starts happen. His K:BB will raise though, 6:1 today.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Thus proving how misleading that stat can be.
by save_the_trop on May 21, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet you quote ERA, oh the irony.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
FIP
Only problem I have with FIP is it seems to underestimate pitchers that induce non-detrimental contact. Granted any ball put in play could hurt, but a guy like brandoin webb, who is arguably one of the best pitchers right now, will consistently have a higher FIPs than his ERA.
Oakland is a very good team.
I’m shocked we were able to pull two out against Smith/Blanton in Oakland. Tip your hats, let Sonny take a few more lumps today and move on to Baltimore.
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And no knocking the series win
But the fielding just doesn’t seem motivated. Maybe they’re on to something about Sonny being statistically unlucky…
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys don't like Sonny because he doesn't throw 94, I bet.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't dislike Sonny...
but I do not like him in our rotation. Not a lot of upside and gives up too many sharply hit balls (especially the kinds that end up in the seats).
Let's see what happens if we swing the bats
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Use Glover for the 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th too, just to make sure he needs a good week off.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
We're not tying this game
To say anything about winning it
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said the innings were legit?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitch 100 is KKKKKK
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why the hell not?
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Like pitch Glover in a close situation.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No, they're giving up and packing it in
Their luggage is already in the plane
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Lock Glover out.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point I'm in favor of letting them have Gomes
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon hates Sonny, duh.
Hence Gomes.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hammel's the pitcher
Over-under on how many the A’s score?
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2, Under.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you lost with 0 out
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Not again
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When in doubt, cut the older and more expensive one.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That is not the Rays MO
Which appears to be ‘cut whoever has optiions’ talent notwithstanding
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, I'm venting
But Hammel and Glover both have no business on a MLB roster
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Medlock!
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Munter!
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you're kidding ,right.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you?
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with Medlock.
The kid can play.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A bit Orvellian in the K:BB department.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I like him,
In all honesty. I like what he can do. maybe we can bring him up in Sept.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not on the 40 man, so he'd have to be added. Talbot!
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
well,
left foot, right foot. One in front of the other. Let’s show some pride boys. Come one.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Come on.
Yes, I learned how type.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully matthan didn't put a gun in his mouth
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Knock out this LL Cool J wannabe
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hypothetical
If the Rays get their asses handed to them in Oakland and no one in Florida is able to see it, does it really happen?
www.citadel-insurance.com
Not in my book.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Baghdad Bob says no.
lol
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not '05 Orvella.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Orvella had a latent injury
I don’t think we have a scapegoat for Sonny or Hammel
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we need a scapegoat for Sonny.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
DP gets us out of this... come on.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
Munter would get a DP.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and so Debbie if she were in Dallas...
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as this doesn't turn into bukkake jokes, it's fine.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
keep it PG-13
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You called it
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yippee... (half-heartly blows a horn)
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I said no bukkake jokes.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
9 more
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
Left foot right foot
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for showing up, Jonny.
So which one did you hit this to, your mom, your buddy, or your cardiologist?
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Lets all gang up on the only guy to do SHIT today!!!!
by GomesSweetGomes on May 21, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We found our scapegoat!
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I am calling it now.
Gomes will not be a Ray next season. I see him being traded to the West Coast.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
Gomes and Sonnanstine for Emil Brown
Do it!!!
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You're kidding right?
We HAD Emil Brown.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think 99% of the stuff in here is in jest
But I do see Gomes in Oakland some day
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They have a bigger, slower, faster version of Gomes in Cust.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Stronger, not faster*
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Brown is a good defender, but he’s not even as good as Gomes this year.
Brown .254 .283 .384
Gomes .218 .311 .397
I don’t think I make that deal straight up, not along with Sonny.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ignore.
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gross lives up to his name
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Chelsea can stay in Moscow with their Commie owner
Go Devils!
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Man U won?
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhhh, isn't that what JMB said?
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask my wife,
I don’t listen. At least that’s what I think she says.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Epicly short.
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
For the Sonny to relief crowd
.823 1st PA, .680 2nd PA, .771 3rd PA
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OPS that is
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by R.J. Anderson on May 21, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that was fun.
Get some rest Rays and don’t let taht (9-1 loss) happen again. Go Rays go!
In the Name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on May 21, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Way too many fastballs for Sonny today.
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