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6/10: RAYS (38-26) at LAA (39-26)

Tampa Bay Rays @ Los Angeles Angels


RAYS at LA Angels

10:05; RAYS TV/ION
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
RAYS RH J. Shields
81.2 3.64 115 6.61 1.87 3.53 0.88 .703 1.18 1.12 14.53
LAA RH J. Weaver
77.0 4.79 87 6.43 2.45 2.62 1.05 .738 1.36 0.83 17.05

Starting Lineups:

RAYS
2B Akinori Iwamura
LF Carl Crawford
CF B.J. Upton
DH Eric Hinske
3B Evan Longoria
1B Willy Aybar
C
Dioner Navarro
RF Gabe Gross
SS Jason Bartlett
Los Angeles
RF Reggie Willits
SS
Maicer Izturis
LF
Garret Anderson
DH Vladimir Guerrero
CF
Torii Hunter
1B Casey Kotchman
2B Howie Kendrick
C Jeff Mathis
3B Brandon Wood

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MVP – Longo

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by SeanDubbs on Jun 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn. I was hoping to have a line up similar to what we had last night. I understand the lefty/righty thing, but we should be giving Ruggiano more of a chance. Especially considering our right fielder is currently Gabe Gross.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

The unjustified Gabe Gross hate continues...

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gabe Gross is gonna make him look like a fool

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I’m itching for some Ruggiano myself.

www.citadel-insurance.com

by SeanDubbs on Jun 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

www.citadel-insurance.com

by SeanDubbs on Jun 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good genes, but is she a bitch, since he's a dick?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Masochist.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with a sister like that...

that’s why Ruggiano is a prick.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 11, 2008 12:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God Bless America.

How do you know she is a bitch? Where is this information coming from that Ruggiano is a prick? he did make a hell of try last night no a ball to deep Center.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's a dick by not jumping shorter and saving some for later.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Go Ruggs!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get ready, Angels!

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shields

MVP

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MVP

Hinske and his professional at bats

by K-Rock on Jun 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the hO's are beating the Sux...

7-6 top of the 8th

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pom pom you mean?

Where were you last night anyways?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was hanging out with my wife. We were playing Wii...

I dropped in and said “hey.” It was a great game last night.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Playing Wii"

Thank you for not going into details. It’s appreciated.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just played Mario Kart/Wii Sports

good fun

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will wait till next month for Mario Kart...

Umbrella Chron. and Ball of Fury

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't really like Umbrella Chron.

I wanna pick up the Bigs. Even though it is cheesy it seems like fun for me and my lil bro

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why not?

I thought the Umbrell Chron is fun. You get to shoot zombies. When is that not fun. Oh, and I want Desroy all Humans… that should be a knee slapper.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just didn't vibe with me

I played it after I did Resident Evil 4 which if you have the time is a great game. Destroy all Humans is fun.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE4 is ownage.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was one of the best games I have played in a while

my friends got pissed cuz I wouldn’t play xbox live I just wanted more RE4. RE5 I hope will be good also.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For the most part, we were pg-13...

give or take.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember that

Ortiz got a triple….

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we rooting for the Yanks or A’s tonight?

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could never root against the A's when they're playing the Yanks.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Fair enough..I hate the Skanks as well...

Who do you think poses a bigger threat for the Wild Card?

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A's likely.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stanks

The A’s are 3.5 games back of us in the Wild Card.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You got to be kidding...

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

by pocket8pin on Jun 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would I be kidding?

I am more interested in this team making the playoffs then just rooting against a team because we dislike them.

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CAPTAIN CLUTCHAROO!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McGowan threw 120 pitches v. the M's.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jesus...

I haven’t seen so many pitches since I was at a redevelopment seminar

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm guessing the Jays might have the latest hook of any team in the bigs

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When I think of Jays Pitching

I can’t help but get an image of a candle that was just blown out…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO, REALLY?!

How long did it take you to figure that out?

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dusty Baker is in the league, fool.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a reason Roy Halladay is running away with the record for complete-game losses.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roy gets less support than a big breasted woman in a fox suit

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   4 recs

Rec'd

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flag'd for being a douche.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You are obsessed. Just obsessed.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Jones doesn’t sing “It’s Not Unusual’’ or shake his hips (well, unless you’re willing to pay cash), but he does have plenty to say about sports. If it’s funny, crazy, weird, irreverent or worth arguing, Tom has his opinions. So pull up a chair and get his two cents—and give him your two cents, as well.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet you did give him a money.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Forgot the period, bitch.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flagged

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh uh

un flag’d

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His ban stick is like 4.1".

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um, how would you know?

Getting back to that whole heterosexuality thing….

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

lol

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Patrick did you get my email?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um :checks e-mail:

Ah yes, I did. I’ll get back to you before the night is done.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAIL!!!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 11, 2008 12:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He feel asleep I bet.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still a FAIL

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by SRQman on Jun 11, 2008 12:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't fall asleep

And SRQman, I will get back to you before the night is done.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 11, 2008 12:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH SNAP!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orioles 8-6 over Red Sox, top 9th

Bases loaded 1 out, on a short bouncer by Jay Payton they threw home and the force catch came too late. I think it squirted away too.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make it 10-6

2-run RBI single up the middle by Ramon Hernandez.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man, how can a pitcher throw a 120 pitches against the Ms? they are hackers

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bosox lost.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orioles win, 10-6

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well it is kinda quiet so here is a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koGywVUJ9hE&eurl=http://www.reelsoundtrack.com/index.php?act=movie_details&id=46031

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ew

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lesser of two evils

Rather KG than Kobe

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don't wanna listen to

my Boston fanboy friends

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ew?

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope

but Kung Fu Panda is Raw

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it me or are all of our players from texas or california?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is you

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no Gabe Gross hate. He just isn’t an answer in RF. Ruggiano at least has the “potential” to possibly be the answer. Gross just doesn’t. There is a reason why the Brewers basically traded him for a bunch of bats. He is a good bench bat and spot start, but not a near everyday starter.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good, because he's not an everyday starter for us.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you know...

That Gabe has the highest slugging percentage on the team since May 1st? He’s hitting .271/.346/.529 since the beginning of May.

He’s a perfect platoon player and should be used that way. I don’t think he’s a bench guy. He’s a platoon guy and should be in left against righties until he proves otherwise.

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's quite solid.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone know what the AVG/OBP/SLG for our RF platoon?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.250/.320/.446

ESPN allows for the splits under team batter…

7th in OPS among AL teams.

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unlrelated

Did anybody else see that D-Train just got his ass railroaded back to Lakeland?

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we say

pwn3d?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suggested on M-B.com

That Marlins fans meet in Lakeland to laugh at him.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bahahaha!

He’ll come back in a few years as an outfielder.

by Vin on Jun 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

I was going to make a more serious comment about that. Unlike Ankiel though, Dontrelle is a fatty.

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last words before turning over to the Rays broadcast:

“Are you high?”

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hence the word “near”. You do realize he hasn’t hit higher than .250 since 2006? If you extrapolate the portion of the season he wasn’t with us to the percentage of the games played for the rest of the season it would be his all time high. He has never hit more than 10 home runs in a season. Only hit higher than .251 once, which is really bad considering he has been a platoon player his entire career.

Point being is he is playing way too much and is definitely not a short, medium, long term answer in RF.

Perhaps maybe Ruggiano could do better? He couldn’t be much worse than Gross’ historical numbers.

He should be a defensive replacement and a once every couple weeks spot start.

If he can turn his career around here and become a much better player then that would be great. But he has yet to show that he is anything more than exactly what he was in Toronto and with the Brewers.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His OPS+ is 110. He's fine.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yet Gross doesn't have his own fan club that go on rants on why he's better than ____ at any given time.

It’s refreshing in a way.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I can see how that would be nice.

by Vin on Jun 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What hate? Pointing out his numbers and his career is not hating on him. He is what he is.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell this to the people who say I hate Edwin.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only because he's a German spy.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought

It was because you were Polish.

Or French.

Or Jewish.

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gross OPS is okay. But he is striking out basically at the same clip as Carlos Pena.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He should swing at more first pitches, right?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends what the data says.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh jeez

not this again

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My hunch is that Gross just isn’t very good, and his problem isn’t conceding strikes. Where did you get the idea of swinging at first pitches? Oh thats right, you are one of the people that have trouble reading. You do realize that not every first pitch is a meatball down the middle? For all your hate on Edwin Jackson you should realize that people actually throw things called balls.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This won't end well.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do not blame me if you are unable to comprehend the difference between a strike and a pitch. I understand you were reading fast and responding faster. But you are trying to talk trash based on something you fabricating in your mind. You simply look pretty foolish in doing so. I can care less if you disagree with me, but lying about what I said is extremely childish.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, saying I hate Edwin Jackson is 100% factual though.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please explain...

Why is Gross not the perfect platoon player against righties?

Also, why are career numbers important when we are looking at how a player will do in the future?

BTW, Gross career vs. righties is .256/.351/.425

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The perfect “platoon” player would be hitting more than .256.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should be able to find someone in professional baseball that can hit more than .256 against righties.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Using batting average as your metric is your first mistake.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This I agree with.

average correlates with runs scored at about .6. OBP around .9 and OPS around .95.

Average is far and away the worst way to judge a player, maybe only better than by strikeouts.

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OBP tells you average and some.

Really BA is unnecessary.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really?

And slug more than the .529 he has this past month.

A OBP > .350 means much more than a .250 batting average…

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure if he was Adam Dunn. But he isn’t. You realize that the most he has hit is 9 home runs in a season? Historically you are lucky if Gross hits a home run once every 30 or 40 at bats.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strikeouts aren't always bad.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let me rephrase that. Strikeouts are better than GIDPs

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure. He is good on that front. Either way I hope he has a good game. I just hope the Rays have a plan for the rest of the season and the future. DJ is a ways away. If they want to trade Ruggiano and go for a rent a player for a year or two till DJ is ready then so be it.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So slugging percentage is only meaningful if you are hitting homeruns?

Again, why do we care about history when we are looking out how well someone will be going forward.

BTW, Gross historically has hit a homerun every 31 at bats. This yeah its been every 32.5.

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The ION feed is particularly terrible tonight

Why can’t all the games be in HD?

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I finally get HD

and my HD box is retarded and won’t let me switch channels without turning it off. Also my PS3 died. Technology hates me now

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wall-E wants to murder you.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh ya my letter "t"

came off my laptop keyboard. Gotta wait for that to come in and my battery will die soon.

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No pterodactyl porn for you!

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Banned.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go Rays!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call me on game 7

The only game that will be called fairly by the refs.

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don't care if either team wins...

I hope the Celts don’t win because the Boston fans… I hope LA doesn’t win because of Kobe… I am confused

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where's Cliff?

Anyone know why Floyd hasn’t been in the lineup against righties?

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aybar is so hot

like Hanzel

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no other reason.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on BJ...

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 pitch 1 out for CC

At least he hit it hard, which I can live with

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was ball 4

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just got on the blog because of the rain delay in New Yawk!

I’ve got one thing to say. You people know how to blog. That picture earlier of the gas station is one for the books. Totally F’n awesome!

Hell of a game your team played last night!

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by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh oh he is back...

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

26 more outs.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big News:

Pujols got carried off the field. Don’t know why. Looks like a torn calf or ACL muscle

by Cory Alexander on Jun 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

that sucks for the Cards if he is out for a while. Never wanna hear of something like that

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sucks.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still can't believe people took that seriously.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow look at the douche behind home plate

and fuck….

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear Shields,

Stop sucking.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GG Shields

You should have just started your suspension when you were supposed to.

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can just watch The Office instead. Good episode on now.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give up quick enough?

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He should laugh at the first joke.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let's get two more outs

come on Shields right the ship.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Grandma is bad luck?

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shields in the first inning...

Has given up fifteen runs in fourteen first innings.

by tallyray on Jun 10, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on shields

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sabathia pitched pretty well tonight. Same with Mcgowan

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flagged.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm joking...

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My buddy is a cubbies fan says that you guys should invade the Cubs blog and post those infamous cat pictures.

The cubs fans are so uptight on their blog, and they hate pictures.

That picture of the fat cat w/the remote has us rolling.

I bet you s.o.b.’s can party too!

"WHO LOVES YA BABY?"

by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We Invade BCB!!!

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sweet lord. This goes in the win .gif file.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damnit shields.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thankfully Brandon Wood sucks.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

He was brutal in the Big Leagues. Rookies should be expected to rake…

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is the majors. He sucked in his stint last year also.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some top prospects don’t. And this is his second. Sooner or later you have to show something.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is a reason why he got sent back down

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well he certainly wasn’t going to play full time in the majors striking out 33 percent of the time with no walks and just 5 hits.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he is doing even worse this time around.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huge sample size you are referencing

He may end up sucking, but for you to say that now about a former Minor League Player of the Year that is 23 yrs old is redunculous

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has already lost top prospect status. There is a chance he may turn it around, but he hasn’t shown any glimpse of this yet. Until he turns it around he is a horrid MLB player. One day he may be solid, but right now he is an easy out.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you're just acting stupid.

Stop acting stupid.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

RJ

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HATER

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well that was a good start...

Maybe I wont have to stay up past 1am again tonight

by td32 on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Rays...

It’s okay… we can score too… let’s have some fun. Come on Boys.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe this is the first time I've seen this.

Truely, a terrifying sight. My zombie apocolypse training ain’t worth shit if these guys take over.

by kericr on Jun 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

two dirtbags met on a diamond.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evan is owning

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is saving my fantasy team this week

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jazz flute hands

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by SRQman on Jun 10, 2008 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, I'm just now able to post

Since when did Shields become a bag of fail?

by JMB on Jun 10, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on Rays...

shut them down this inning. Give them nothing.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's do this over again.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats what she said.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shields is an ace now that it is the 2nd inning.

by matthan on Jun 10, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how was that a ball

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 down

two more needed.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1 more needed.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn I haven't seen so many ball until

the muntant kid was walking around with no pants…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently baddancing has seen you with pants.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

without* FAIL

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 10, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs