There has been talk though that he’d be willing to renegotiate his contract if this happens (if it will help Cinci be able to trade him to anyone that is). He’s actually been getting on base lately at a pretty good clip. Posting almost a .500 OBP lately. afaik, he’s a great guy to have around in the clubhouse. a real practical joker type too iirc.

Wherever he goes, he has to accept that it’s most beneficial to him and any team he plays for that he is a DH.

I became a Mariners fan because of Griffey(rookie year, liked him from the beginning for some reason), lost interest in baseball for the longest time and finally got back into it again 2-3 years ago playing fantasy baseball. Now I’ve adopted the rays as my team last year, and it would be nice to see Griffey, my longtime favorite baseball player, in a Rays uniform.

I’d rather have Griffey than Bay or Giles. But I wouldn’t give up more then some low B or C level prospects.

A. The Reds would have to eat most of that contract-
B. I wouldn’t give them more than Jeff Niemann, but would do it straight up
C. What happens to Floyd, Gross, Ruggiano, Gomes? I’m guessing Hinske would be odd man out though
D. Can Griffey be productive? As a DH?

I just don’t see it going down this just doesnt sound like the kind of deal the new Rays brass would make…

Do we really need another lefty?

I’d say we’re pretty well stocked on lefty DH/corner players (just ask Dan Johnson), most of whom have been better to this point in the season. And if by some minor miracle Baldelli survives a minor league rehab, a move will need to be made for him as well in an already over-crowded 25-man roster fight.

I think that would be obvious. If not they atleast eat half the deal. Then 8 mil iisnt too bad for a guy who will make that money back for us in attendance and merchandise

I don’t see anyone in our RF situation, or in AAA or AA who should stop us from doing this deal if it makes sense for us. It would all depend oon how much of his contract the Reds would eat (which I dont think would be a problem) and then who they would want in a trade.

Gross has 130 AB, Gomes has 90 AB, etc

I dont think any of that matters, the season is only 2 months long

Barry Bonds is 44 and hasnt even swung a bat this year, cant play defense, he has been a clubhouse cancer before, faces prison time in the near future and cheated the game

I dont understand how you pick and choose “your guys”

Griffey has a .365 OBP this year, and had a .868 OPS last year. I dont judge what kind of player Griddey is based on the past 2 months (which havent even been bad). He BBs more than he Ks, and he doesnt hit .225 like Gabe Gross. Griffey would do a lot to jump start this area into jumping on the bandwagon I think

if we are going to take a serious look at someone like Griffey, then let’s properly evaluate him. Yes, he is a 39 year old, injury prone and no spring chicken. But let’s look at who he would be replacing. Especially on the road, Griffey seems like a good bet to put in right field. Griffey would become the DH mainly at home. The only person better on the team now defensively in right is Gabe Gross. But are we losing enough defensively to not consider the move? Probably not. Hinske and Floyd would share the bulk of the DH duties, and Gross would be a late-inning defensively replacement, and starter in RF at home.

Offensively, Griffey is currently only hitting .256-however, there is no reason to think that might be able to improve as the season goes along-and being able to rest his legs as DH could be an extra boost to his bat. Gross, however, is only hitting .247 and strikes out 1 every 3 at bats (only Pena is worse on the team). Griffey’s OBP is still very good at .365

The only real question, is how much will this cost the Rays next year? There has been rumors that his final year may be somewhat negotiable if it helps him get traded to a team he prefers.

If it only costs the Rays something like Gomes and Niemann, they should make the deal. Regardless of what type of player we think Griffey is, he is still feared by pitchers. a lineup of Iwamura, Crawford, Griffey, Upton, Pena, Floyd/Hinkse, Longoria, Navarro, Bartlett looks pretty exciting to me.

I’m not as much of a stat guru, so someone needs to enlighten me, but would Griffey really be worse than Gomes or Hinske?

then Griffey can get most of his at-bats as the DH. At this point in his career, that may not be a bad thing. His bat is definitely worth having.

Jason Stark’s defense of the Rays staying in contention primarily had to do with having hitters than can hit good pitching, which is exactly what you would face in the playoffs. Upton and Longoria were cited as two players that have such an ability. Griffey is another type of hitter that can be added to that mix and help the offense.

Regardless of what we think of him, Griffey is still feared by pitchers. I know that’s not a measurable stat, but it is a fact. I’ve spoken with numerous pro pitchers, and the obvious is true—different batters are pitched differently, or more carefully than others. Having Griffey in the lineup makes it that much more difficult for a pitcher, makes him throw more pitches (as his OBP indicates) and thus more opportunities for a pitcher to make a mistake. If Griffey was protected in a lineup by someone like Upton, it also gives him better pitches to hit. Griffey could be the type of bat that makes it fit for everyone else.

RJ is correct, Gross has hit about .275 with an OBP of around .360 with good power since being brought here. I am the first to admit I was wrong about him , and he has earned at least 60% of the Reps in RF.

With that said, I still wanna see Ruggs gte his shot at a platoon, but I tihnk that is a next year thing with us having Gomes and Hinske here, there will be none of that…

Floyd has been a good DH, there just isn’t room for Griffey…
Also Dan Johnson has been pretty lights out in AAA, and would deserve a shot at DHing should we need a DH, and Id rather have a young Dan Johnson than an old Ken Griffey Jr. DHing…

Let me preface by saying I have a very hard time believing that you can quantify, or even try to quantify the intangibles that lead to team success. I usually think intangibles are better known as luck.

However, why isn’t there any concern that bringing Griffey to the team will change the dynamic of the team? The “We are one team” motto has worked because the team doesn’t have a true star in the eye of the media. Carl and Kazmir are probably the most notable, but Carl hasn’t been very good and Kaz did miss some time. If Griffey comes to the team he would automatically become the face of the franchise. He’d bring a media circus and change team expectations. I don’t see how any of that is good considering he’ll never play up to his expectations.

I don’t think this deal ever happens. The NDRO has done too great a job building this team to make a move that is so out of the ordinary.

Being feared doesn’t always necessarily coincide with dominant numbers. Any batter who has the ability of altering a pitcher’s approach on the mound do to his offensive ability, is a feared hitter. Griffey still does that to pitchers.

That is Griffey’s last year numbers. If that’s lousy, then it seems like 4/5 of baseball’s hitters are pretty lousy

omg getting griffrey would just make my world because he always starts out slow and then he just goes on a big time HR streak and he adds the possiblity of hitting close to 30 HR a year and we wouldnt have to trade that much to get him because of his high salary that cincy would have to eat and if we can get him for say jeff niemann,mitch talbot and maybe fernando perez im pretty sure that andrew friedman would make that move in a heart beat i just really hope that if griffrey gets traded it is here because this man is still amazing and would just bring fans to see him and since i dont see bonds as a possibility that much anymore they just have to pursue griffrey