6/19: CHC (45-27) at RAYS (42-29)
Chicago Cubs at Tampa Bay Rays, Jun 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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MVP__BOSSMAN
3-hit performance…. and a dazzling defensive grab
by daveh33 on Jun 19, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP - Longoria
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP: Crawford
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jun 19, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP: Shields
Not a lot of activity. Hopefully, everyone’s at the game.
by rglass44 on Jun 19, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grats to JB
Hope the Mom and Baby come out healthy.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's because of a sore foot from a foul ball last night
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I get for assuming.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP = Shields
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
New Lineup
Aki – 2B
CC – LF
BJ – CF
Hinske – 1B
Longo – SS
Floyd – DH
Aybar – 3B
Navi – C
Gross – RF
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Odd.
Brignac is playing second base tonight.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is BenZo playing SS?
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame it on Beckham.
Not really.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine they'd call him up to take a few reps from Aki.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he's out for the suspension, maybe
It would be odd, but who knows.
by rglass44 on Jun 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd have to take the place of someone else on the roster.
So that wouldn’t work.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays + Glover
4-EVA!
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see the thing on Garza before the game on Fox?
He looked like a retarded Vanilla Ice.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Without a doubt, no.
He was cool as ICE.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our 1st baseman other then Pena
Have no idea when to go after those groundballs
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Pena's back tomorrow.
So I’m guessing Ruggiano has his bags packed.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction...
Ruggiano never unpacked.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in all fairness to Aybar
He doesn’t have a whole lot of experience playing first.
by rglass44 on Jun 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not that hard.
Before the pitch you look where your 2B is. Aki should be letting him know as well. I’ve coached 15 year olds that have more common sense playing first than Aybar has.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or to be down 1-2 in the count.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if Percival is available tonight
I wouldnt want to see him even if he is
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He went three in a row earlier this season.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but his pitch counts have been pretty high the past 2 nights
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to the Dusty Baker School for Handling Pitchers
I don’t pay attention to pitch counts.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry
We survived two weeks w/o him. We can survive one night.
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a great throw
But does anyone else think CC has slowed down this year a bit? I mean, how many infield hits does he have compared to usual?
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last year he had 8% of his hits as IFH, this year 2.5%
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ, where do you find some of these stats?
I’ve been looking around and could find any…
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF
That was a strike.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shieldsy really knows how to get an out when he needs one.
by P Brady on Jun 19, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scared of Hinske?
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's made his living on defense.
Nichols’ Law of Catcher Defense
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could
watch this game. shakes fist at cable brighthouse cable
I get ION but no FSN :(
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Orlando's Brighthouse sucks
Get DirecTV, or wait for AT&T U-verse
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it back
Forget AT&T U-verse, unless your neighborhood will be FTTP. Our neighborhood’s U-verse take the fiber to the premises.
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
won’t take, that is
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hung that one up
Two on, no out
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to make this guy...
throw his breaking stuff for strikes and attack his FB
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn
Is there anything sexier than Longoria? (no homo)
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you imagine if CC had Evan's patience
by Dbullsfan on Jun 19, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Derrek Lee = Epic Fail
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woot
I still laugh at aybar’s intro.
GOOOOOOOOOO AYBAR
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well old ringtone
I kept getting calls at work and forgettingt o put my phone on silent.
by rglass44 on Jun 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-0 Rays!
Productive DP
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
we are winning but i wasn’t exactly praying for a DP…..
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navy hit
I’m calling it
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why again are we going to send Ruggs down
and keep Aybar when Pena comes back?
by Dbullsfan on Jun 19, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck
i mean i wasn’t gonna be shocked if we were held scoreless there but still could of done so much more than 1 run
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's go Rays
Gotta go to the gym, or else not pooty for me.
by rglass44 on Jun 19, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Aybar hit the ball well, just at someone...and Navi smoked his
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have had a bad habit
Of hitting balls well…right at people.
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Look!
Beckham finally got the right hat!
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, there goes that walk.
Aki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuk-u-do-me
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Btw, you see aki's aligator glove close up on espn?
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also heard
He has Panda skin underwear and looking to buy a jock made of Bald Eagle feathers.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LONGO!!
SS extraordinaire!
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shields isnt as sharp as I'd like
Long layoffs can do that
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we PLEASE have a 1-2-3 inning?
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First eight hitters
Are batting over .290 for the Cubs. 1-2-3’s are gonna be hard to come by.
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like Ramirez is always up with someone on.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are the chances of seeing howell tonight? Slim?
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Shields goes 8 and Wheeler closes it
Or, obviously, we blow them out
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's probably available...
He hasnt thrown a ton of pitches like Percival…definitely not as many stressful pitches
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's a 4th of July
Without Will Smith?
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by SeanDubbs on Jun 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RJ, doesn’t it seem weird that Beltre has an OOZ of 42, best in the league for 3rd basemen, but an RZR of .667 (one of the worst in the league)?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jun 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, which is why I'd urge people to not take any one defensive metric too strongly into consideration.
Beltre is one of the top defenders at third.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I win, and a couple more weeks of this...
I’ll stop calling Carl overrated, and just call him garbage. This is getting ridiculous. That was a brutal swing.
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does OOZ work if they are playing the shift? is that like a free OOZ for the shortstop when Pena/Giambi etc ground into the shortstop playing 2nd?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jun 19, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if are dropping Ruggs for Pena
Then I really think this team should call up Brignac or at least Zobrist/Elliot Johnson. Evan Longoria should just stay at 3B and win his gold glove.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make this bum work.
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beckham
Was soooo polite, it will be a shame if the minors eventually turn him into a Young or Dukes type. I don’t see that happening though.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this Shields
sometimes he just goes out there and looks like a true ace. Let’s see if he can carry us to a sweep.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and there is what would happen
if Longo had CC’s patience
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Looks like it may be up to Shields if the Rays are gonna win this game
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My wife and I just brought in the newest Rays Fan into the world.....
And if he’s not we’ll disown him
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ty ty very much....
our 3rd boy. I tried to convice my wife to let us have enough to field our own time
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shields can go 115 pitches tonight with the time he's had off
Hopefully that means at least 8, maybe 9
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
congrats!
make sure he becomes a diehard Rays fan and tell him early, before anyone else can take him otherwise that the Red Sox are evil and Coco Crisp is actually Hitlers cousin.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Tell him that pinstripes are worn by terrorists.
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good one jmb
Taliban wear pinstripes
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good, it's infomercial in the booth night.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You just had a kid, you should be.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, my wife just had the kid actually.
Maybe sympathy pain?
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lingering sympathy pang?
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
Aybar feels he is owed an RBI and will get one here…
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost want a 1-2-3 inning to get this guy off the air
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what you call hot-shotted.
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That might've been the most awkward guest ever.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tampa regional manager. He's the guy you go to if you win $600 to $125,000
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know the game attendance?
I wish I was at the pit. Anyone go to either of the Cubs games? Atmosphere seems surreal at times
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I went to last night's
A LOT of Cubs fans there. The atmosphere was off the charts, tough.
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
So what will be the excuse from the STILL non believers if we sweep the Cubs?
That Soriano would of been enough to sweep us? I think the Rays will need to hold the world series trophy up before anyone actually believes they are good
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Magrane makes me laugh sometimes but other times he just makes reallyyy
awekward jokes.
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't look now guys but the Yankmees have won 7 straight and are 40-33
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Usually you have worry about a walk with the bases loaded
But CC is up
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is with the umpires lately? It's like they are targeting the Rays for doing well. See Cousins and Kerwin Danley (last nite)
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yankees
don’t worry me at all. They don’t have Wang. Hughes will be out til September and showed nothing anyway. Kennedy will be back soon but looked horrible as well. They also have a weak pen with Joba in the rotation.
6 of those 7 wins come against the Astros and Padres. Not impressed.
and cuz I like saying it…... they don’t have wang /immature
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damnit
how many times are we gonna blow it with RISP? Shields basically has to toss a shut out.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a strike down the middle
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jun 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the word on Becham? How long beofre he is MLB ready? Does Brignac move to 2B?
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brignac's playing second tonight, but probably 2011 at the earliest.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brignac should be in majors next year for sure though.
What happens to Aki? Or do we trade Brignac?
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To quote Rob Neyer
I don’t set the rosters, I just make fun of the guys who do.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl has growing to do
If he wants to be anything more than someone who is very dedicated to his job, and actually have success, he can’t keep swinging at every flippin’ pitch. He had the hitter’s count…work it into your favor…ugghh
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RATW mentioned a Claudell Washington comp, that works.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
comparison in regards to patience at plate?
stats seem pretty comparable, with Carl having more speed for sb and triples…maybe better defense…i’m not that up on claudell washington to say too much
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 19, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC is starting to drive me nuts like Delmon Young did last year.
I still love ya CC
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why isnt Hendrickson working on this with CC?
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's tried, Carl ignores the advice, he's admitted so in the papers.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't there a point where he realizes that its not working though?
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you can't tell me pitchers haven't figured this out yet...
please CC….change your approach!
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by Orlando Rays on Jun 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any reason why Brignac is playing 2nd?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jun 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shields needs to get into a fight every year
I’m loving the post-fight results, but about that right hook…
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You missed the start in Anahiem, didn't you?
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
touche
i suppose i wanted to focus on the post-suspension part
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 19, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully we get to the cubs bullpen.
I know we have sucked with risp and men on tonight but apparently thats nothing new for Gallagher. WHNZ announcers said he has a .100 something avg against with runners on this year.
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beckham
Is supposedly more ready than most HS players but it will still be 2-3 years. Of course if we can have a 20 year old at SS in 2010, I don’t think we will complain. It probably moves Brignac to 2B as 3B and SS are obviously not long term options but I am more concerned of when/if Brignac shows he even deserves to start.
Brignac may playing 2B since we have no backup MIF’s(not counting Longoria) and Iwamura will be suspended soon and Bartlett is hurt. If they are ready to give him a call, he could be an option for a few days, I suppose.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zobrist/Cannizaro say hi.
Unless we just want to start trying Reid out for a trade.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another great inning
Shields is a very ace-like today.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh man
Shields and Kazmir can just be so dominant at times and I think Garza will be there soon. Price and everyone else…...I can’t stop talking about this team.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we need one more veteran hitter
someone with patience perhaps that can maybe help influence others
by raysfaninminnesota on Jun 19, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel a clutch longo ball coming up.
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so are we gonna get an rbi today or not?
by dropkicknu on Jun 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright
lets take advantage of that error. We are forcing Shields to pitch a shut out so far.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we're talking bout Cliff
i can dig it
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
almost
Floyd just missed that ball. We are getting so close but so far.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could Culpepper's face look any goofier on that sign?
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck
I really thought Floyd was gonna hit one of his rockets there. Need another great inning from Shields.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Am i the only one hoping shields goes 9?
Percival scares the shit out of me sometimes.
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if (and this is a big if) the score is 1-0 heading into the 9th and shields maxed out his pitches...who goes the 9th? balfour? wheels?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jun 19, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Percival would go sadly but lets get there first...
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K then a DP plz
and I don’t feel good when Trever Miller is pitching.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trevor miller doesnt feel good
when trevor miller is pitching
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Percy and Howell arent available
Well, I love when Howell pitches. We need to only use Balfour and Wheeler tonight.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damnit
Shields is losing control. come on!
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK
tie game, man on 2nd and 3rd and Marmol up. searches for unshitty news
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No BoC yet though
I got one last time…
by lailaihei on Jun 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't even waiting, i just checked woot, refreshed a couple times, and BAM!
i got a 2GB sansa player w/ headphones, a broken external DVD drive, and a $30 graphics card.
by lailaihei on Jun 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
Now I feel even worse, I don’t see Miller escaping this.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YOU
i knew Miller wouldn’t stop them
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is the infield in in the 7th inning?
Especially with a man on 2nd…
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well we are already losing
but maybe Balfour can keep it at 1 run…
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Balfour needs to make sure he pauses before he pitches
He just balked
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Christ, Aki
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No it wasnt...he looked up before he caught it
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of my favorite players but lately i get the feeling he's just going through the motions.
by dbulls21 on Jun 19, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch CC for that...Upton plays with a smooth demeanor which makes him appear casual
He just made a mistake by taking his eye off the ball
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not enough people have titles of Who songs as their screennames.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't know how you mixed up "l" with "r" on the keyboard.
And I just set you up for a Graham ethnicity joke.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFLMAO
Chairman Mao that is….
/here all week
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well, you weren't shutting the Cubs out.
We’re only down by two. We can do this.
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright
Balfour did a good job, now can we have some actual offense show up?
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The difference in the game is Gross and Aybar (although he hit it hard) failing with men on base and less than 2 outs
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on O
we dont even have an RBI today, that can’t go on.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i got excited for a second
I thought Marmol got hurt and our asses were saved but he was just tying his shoes…..
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dioner hasn't had a homer in quite a while.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno if I can listen to this game anymore.
hearing too many cubs fans. Makes me sick.
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cool
another walk. lets not blow ANOTHER chance
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gross woul be the third ord fourth best player on the Mariners.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
J.P. Ricciardi is the only person besides you to not like Adam Dunn.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems like an odd person to dislike Adam Dunn
Thom Breneman would murder Dunn if it were legal to do so.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He strikes out a ton. Doesn’t hit anything but home runs. Sucks in the field. And is a lazy asshole. So yeah.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
His defense is so horrific that he’s basically not worth giving up anything of value unless he DHs. Plus he has sizable home/road splits: his numbers are going to drop a bit moving to the AL, and moving out of Cincinnati.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take him if I didn't give up anyone that I'd miss.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd sign him, just not to the massive contract he'll get.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure he is better than Hinske/Gomes/Floyd/Gross 4 headed monster.
But that doesn’t make him more than just an average major leaguer.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that the Reds see him as a star because of his HR production
and they’re going to want more then what he’s worth. They may just settle for a draft pick.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he makes contact he is great
But his defense is pretty bad. Besides I never said I didn’t really like him. I said I don’t like one dimensional players like Dunn. I prefer well rounded players. I like guys with high average with medium pop and good speed. Frankly your lover, BJ Upton, is the type of player I love. I hate extremely high k guys especially when they are unable to make contact in situations that require contact.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between the mattress is always the first place they look.
How unclever.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most players are one dimensional
and it’s important to remember that not all dimensions are created equal. Dunn is still a productive bat, but I wouldn’t sign him to a LT deal or deal any elite talent for him.
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has his uses for sure.
On this team I wouldn’t want him because we already have enough guys that strike out a ton. But on certain teams he would be a strong asset.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you'd rather have players that ground out more, and produce fewer runs?
by JI on Jun 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you have a team with a low OBP but tons of HR hitters you just end up with lots of solo shots. I’d like some contact hitters that can move people out, hit sac flies. You know the things we keep failing at when we have a man on 3rd with 1 out. Guys that strike out constantly really hurt you in those scenarios.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure. But you’d need a handful of them every game to win. That isn’t very likely.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go to work
GO RAYS!!!!
C”MON AKI!!!!!!!!!
by JMB on Jun 19, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are
See Ichiro, see Fukodome, and now see Iwamura
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would that be a kamikaze at bat?
sorry
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Ump is probably like, thatwas a strike! Why did you hit him?
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lou reliving the good ol days in the Trop
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gross hit a walk off winner..so you love him right
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gross has his moments
But he is a marginal player at best. He has his uses. Even Gross knows what type of player he is (see his comments on his abilities vs lefties).
CC is not marginal. He may not be a mega superstar, but he is a star. Since you guys live and die with 1 statistic you fail to see the value in CC. I actually find it pretty hilarious.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EqA, OBP, P/PA, O-Swing%, OPS+ are all one stat.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is double posting included in that?
I look at the big picture. I include things like runs and stolen bases. Two things you obviously ignore. It is okay though. We are both happy when CC does more things that you like.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More often than not at the
plate this season he has
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the way
we roll!!!!!!!!!!!!
We finally regress someone this series!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we just pwned Marmol's ERA
Pinella is gonna go crazy on his team
upton triple!!
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this team
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was neat
i cannot wait until BJ fills out
by god allah star on Jun 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regressing
2 guys in the same inning is fun!!!!!!!!!!!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my god
blowing the lead turned into the greatest thing. It showed just how fucking fun this team can be
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT







by Sylar on Jun 19, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From RJ: I fuckiI fucking love B.J. time
Me too RJ, me too. Oh wait, are we talking about the same thing here? LOL
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we aint done yet
my greedy ass wants more!
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd swing?
of the inning?
awesome.
by god allah star on Jun 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no subject
i guess i should explain this further,
for those who aren’t watching on tv.
the grand slam by carl was only the 2nd swing of the inning
by god allah star on Jun 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eyre's
ERA went from .87 to 3.38 this inning and it’s not over. Regressing is fun.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHHAHAHAHA
we are cock slapping them right now
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apple Bottom Jeans
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boots with the fur.
Ayber homerun?! hahahaha
by Thermacold on Jun 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
peace out guys
i’m off to a chicago cubs supporting bar in orlando. should be funny!
by dropkicknu on Jun 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we are not impressed
Best record in baseball? 2 of the best relievers? So?
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok ok
I am very greedy but I will take the 7. Now just throw strikes unlike the Cubs did.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is my damn broom?
My mother in law must be riding it
by Rays Rule on Jun 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright so
Balfour pitches this inning and then Wheeler? I STILL would be pissed to see Glover.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just throw strikes
lets not pull a Marmol! we need 6 outs before giving up 5 runs
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone going to the games this weekend?
I’ll be there Friday and Saturday. I can’t go to weekday games so I missed this entire series.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was huge for Balfour to shut them down in the 7th
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the best part is
how we made Carlos Marmol, probably the best SU man in baseball look worse than Gary Glover ever has.
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 more!
I am not even worried, Rays will not be dumb enough to demote Glover instead of releasing Glover when Reyes returns
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well there is a reason why we keep seeing Balfour in tough situations
Maddon likes what he sees. And there is a reason why we never see the Glove.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
he would make a good closer. did what Marmol couldn’t do with the lead. challenged them…and he won.
3 more outs til a sweep!
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Grant Balfour
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It made me not a virgin
She couldn’t resist the epileptic mickey
by Sylar on Jun 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody can resist an epileptic mickey.
Longlorious.
by RATW on Jun 19, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I can't
resist epileptic mickey
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello from Omaha! Gotta love June thunderstorms in the Midwest. Not really.
I can’t believe I’ve missed this entire series, dammit.
Oh and congrats to LL on the M’s house cleaning. The removal of Naimoli and LaMar were among the greatest days of Rays fandom.. until this season.
I swear to god, I’ll throw RJ’s chair through a wall if Glover keeps his job over Balfour.
Longlorious.
by RATW on Jun 19, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn you
i had to buy Men At Work with my Zunepass now…
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have the LP though
i can haz ch33zburger?
by EminenceFront on Jun 19, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hating should stop now
it is looking easy for him tonight, on both sides of the field
by joeybw on Jun 19, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One good game doesnt negate an entire season
He needs to change his approach to become the player we think he is capable of becoming
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 months doesn't negate an entire career
it happens.
he’ll make adjustments and be fine.
by god allah star on Jun 19, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is arguing he won't be fine, but at this midpoint of the year he's sucked.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know that he's sucked
but he has been better.
but jumping on him after 2 months isn’t very nice,
in my humble opinion.
by god allah star on Jun 19, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he has done significantly worse than Upton
Prior to this game he has significantly less K’s, more runs, almost as many SB (but less CS), more triples, now he is tied in HR, slightly less in RBIs even though he is hitting 2nd. Sure Upton has done better, but CC hasn’t done that bad. But have underachieved, but neither has been horrible. Plus Upton has 3 more errors now.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes he has done signifcantly worse than Upton.
I’ll beg of you to not make stupid comments like that.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your opinion
And you are wrong in my opinion. I look at more than just OPS. The fact is Crawford is stealing, scoring, and driving in runs at essentially the same clip as Upton.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And SLG% and OBP%
Are much larger factors in a teams success. It has been statistically proven. CC fails on both accounts.
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So instead of
.283 .368 .440 you want .266 .312 .369
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesnt think those numbers correlate to wins RJ
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton has NO
control over who’s on base when he gets a hit or who gets a hit when he’s on base. RBI’s and Runs scored are how they judged players in 1975, not 2008. Sorry. I’m not a “stat-head.” In fact, if you look at my sig, you’ll see that I’ve been called a “tools whore”, but your argument is stupid
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Perhaps if BJ stopped getting caught stealing at almost a very high clip he would score more runs?
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really can't believe some of the stuff you type..
To even compare CC and BJ’s season’s is beyond ludicrous
by td32 on Jun 19, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t think you watch the games. Do you just look at a few ratios post game to determine how someone played?
Please watch the games.
BJ has screwed up numerous times in CF due to laziness. He strikes out a boatload more. He makes boneheaded moves on the base paths. And CC has nearly the exact same counting stats as BJ. BJ has a higher OPS due to walks and doubles. Congrats. In my book that doesn’t make his season that much better.
by matthan on Jun 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you applied
recently been fired from a GM position in the Pacific Northwest?
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jun 19, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I watch the games and played at a relatively high level...
These 2 guys arent even close stats, or no stats<

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