Visiting teams fans: How much ridicule will it take?
I want to be a good fan. I want to be polite. I usually am. But how else are we going to make the fans of out of state teams (Boston, NY, Chicago, etc) convert to Rays fans? 99% of the Cubs fans in the trop last night live in the tampa bay area, but they still come to the game wearing cubs gear. The only 2 things that will ever make them switch over is for our team to continue embarrasing them on the field and for us to embarrass them in the stands. I hate to say it, but i love the Rays fans that are dicks to the visitings fans. Talk that S, get in their face, shake that broom at them, we gotta do whatever it takes to turn this tide. Everyone in this town is from somewhere else, but they refuse to root for the home team. So i dont see any other way to go about it. If we keep winning and they keep getting harrassed at the games, maybe finally they will don a rays jersey for good.
Do it for your kids...i would hate to have grown up in NY but been a huge Chicago fan b/c my dad was from there. Kids are fans of their dads team. as a kid growing up its great to be a fan of the hometown team and see 25 games over the summer. This is how you build a lasting fan base, you have kids who grow up and then are die-hard life long fans.
I dont like being the dick fan out there, but we gotta do something. we gotta make them hate coming here with an opposing jersey on. Our team has gotta keep making them look bad on the field. I think its a problem the team and the fanbase need to attack. am i wrong? Go Rays!
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I prefer to let the scoreboard do the talking
I am a full season ticket holder, and chose to get my seats in left field because the cowbell kid sits in right.
If I wanted to scream in someone’s face, I’d go to a football game.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 20, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
100% correct
Winning builds enthusiasm, winning builds the “feeling” one needs to become a Rays fan. Once that happens and the playoffs are in sight the “PIT” will be slammed with fans. It most likely will be after the all star break when the enthusiasm sinks in, but it will happen. More and more people are taking notice. If it weren’t for the in-laws coming in from Lacrosse, Wi. I’d be there man! I got that baseball fever!
In the town in which I was born, flags of the teams logo adorn houses and flag poles alike as the team spirit and community rally behind a winner. The Rays should have a flag day giveaway and start flying them thar flags everywhere. On that note, not just flags for homes but for cars too. I see more FSU, FLorida, and Bucs flags on car windows than Rays car flags to this day.
Wasssssssup with that?
Cowbells? I was sitting with a friend of mine(Boston fan) directly behind the Indians dugout last season and I must say, I can’t stand them. Ian Beckles and his enterage of kids were behind us (we won our bells in the trivia game at the stadium) so we gave them to his kids. BIG mistake! I had cowbellitis for 3 days and Ian was oh so appreciative of our generosity he had his kids ring their cowbells in our ears.
Winning is a cure all. I believe this team is for real barring injury.
by John 63 on Jun 20, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rays Already had a car flag day against the Chisox
I’ll send you one if you email me your address and Paypal me a dollar or 2 for postage. I have a few extras and can’t fly mine on my car because I have vent visors.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 20, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can swing picking up a Rays flag as I have two
My point was, I see more college teams car flags and Bucs car flags than I do Rays. They’d be nice giveaways at the Trop and the more people that see them the more likely it will put the subliminal message in their heads to go to games.
Thanx for the offer though.
by John 63 on Jun 20, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be careful with the car flags though
Mine was ripped off my car in the parking lot on Wednesday night at the game.
Pissed me off to no end. At least it was the one I got at the car flag night and I hadn’t actually paid for it.
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jun 20, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we gotta make them hate coming here with an opposing jersey on.
Keep winning.
by R.J. Anderson on Jun 20, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With exceptions to Oakland and Florida
Winning solves everything when it comes to getting home fans out. Remember, how Buc games would be Packer home games? Remember that? Or when Philadelphia fans would show up in numbers? Now all you see is a sea of Red.
If you look at a families lineage, you will find that only a few families have been here in the Tampa Bay area longer then two or three generations. The main population boom has just been over the last few decades (thanks to the invention of central air.)
I know of three Red Sox fans who have season tickets to the Trop, same can be said with my friends who are Yankees fans.
People like being associated with winners, with exception to Cubs fans.Ask yourself: how many Bucs or Lightning fans do you know that root for another baseball team? I know a few fans who will go full throttle on Bucs knowledge but will want to talk about the Yankees or Red Sox.
I used to talk a lot garbage. Mainly I bust balls when a Yankee fan says he is a die hard fan but doesn’t know who played shortstop before Jeter. Same with Red Sox fans can’t name anybody on the 1975 team besides Carlton Fisk. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Let’s root for the boys in blue to keep on winning and I guarantee you the fans will show.
Bottom line: The fans WILL come. Winning will solve everything.
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 20, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are winning and you have seen signs
the last yankee series they stopped coming out. Obviously there are enough “baseball” fans in the area to sellout the trop every night. it was basically a sellout tues-thurs. They are just fans of another team. When the “Pit” is packed and loud like last night, its electric. All those cubs fans should put on a rays jersey tonight and come back out, root for the home team.
JB
by Mr. Tonight TB on Jun 20, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
College football is by far my fav sport. I bring that same passion over to baseball. I’m not one to be quiet at sporting events or be quiet to opposing fans. I know when I go to away games that I need to deal with it. Thats how it goes and that is how it should be. Now there is a fine line between good natured trash talking with major intensity and being a loud obnoxious jerk. College football games are perfect examples of classy fans that one minute can be trash talking to the extreme but then the next be sharing food and drink. All sports can and should be like that. But once the game starts opposing fans should feel the heat (pardon the pun) at away games. Always. Home field advantage is important and the more fans the opposing team has the less advantage the home team has.
Plus high intensity is a lot of fun. Away college football games are by far my favorite sporting events to attend. I’ve seen some major sporting events in my day; final fours, all star games, game 7s, and nothing beats going up to Knoxville (9/20/08), Tallahassee, TTown, Auburn, Baton Rouge or even Jacksonville for that matter. It is all about the passion and the intensity and in my not so humble opinion that is what all sporting events should feel like.
by matthan on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am a low-key fan myself
But there is definitely a place at the Trop for high-intensity, younger fans. I may not actually buy into that, and the fomenting at the stadium turns me off, but the energy is still pretty cool from other people. At least the place is no longer dead; there is actually some youthful vibrancy to it nowadays.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 20, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I guess let me rephrase. If you are going to a home game, then you have every right to be pretty much left alone. Of course at any game there is going to be noise and what not. However, when you go to a road game you shouldn’t go with the expectation that you are going to be left alone. There is nothing that shakes my head more than when a father takes his son to a hostile road environment and truly expects nothing to happen. Now obviously nothing physical or even really derogatory should take place, but trash talk should be expected. Home games are a different story.
by matthan on Jun 20, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So long as there is none of the following, I'm cool with trash talking:
Profanity, Threats, Mocking of Injuries, Comments about an individuals physical appearance (race, height, weight, etc.), Comments directed at children. And people who say the word ‘suck’ suck at creativity.
But in my mind, there is a BIG difference between being a loud fan, and trash talking. Cheering loudly for your team definitely creates an aura of excitement that the players can feed off. But there is usually very little positive that can come out of getting into personal disputes with opposing fans.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 20, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In my opinion what is acceptable changes based on who the person is. If I’m at a Rays game or a UF game and someone my age (mid 20s) in opposing teams gear walks by he is going to get an earful. I may or may not (probably not) curse, but it is going to be pretty solid and intense trash talk. Sometimes the intensity raises even higher. But at the same game if I see a grandfather with his grandson I am not going to direct anything to them like I would to someone my age. However, they have to understand they are going to hear some things indirectly.
by matthan on Jun 20, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree wholeheartedly with the post
Normally I will not heckle opposing teams fans if they are few and far between, but the trash talking is in full swing when a big-market team visits the Trop. It is damn unacceptable to be the minority in your own stadium (case and point last night). I booed so loud my head almost exploded numerous times because there was so much cheering going on in my section when the Cubs did something good. As long as its cleanly executed, I’m totally with making the Trop an uncomfortable a place as possible for Yanks, Sox, Cubs, etc fans. They’ve had free reign for far too long!!! Convert or fall forever!!!
Jamie DeLuca
by JDeLuca on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hope the days are numbered
where the home team fans arent subjected to trash talking by the visitors. It has really started to become embarrasing for our team. The players have to be thinking: “We are one of the most competive teams in baseball and every double from the visitors gets a standing ovation.” i dont know if these northerner will ever stop cheering for their beloved yankees and red sox. they hate the south and our teams, but they love living here.
But i agree, i have seen the Gators play away games in most of those stadiums. you know you have to take it, but that makes the wins that much sweeter. we need to dish it out here as well.
BOHICA
by Mr. Tonight TB on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we just have to just wait til the transplants die off
I kid of course…Although seriously I hope that their children are at least Rays fans….
by matthan on Jun 20, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't bet on it...
The number of very young kids who were dressed in Cubs gear like their parents were too many to count.
Jamie DeLuca
by JDeLuca on Jun 20, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
It’s not the Cubs fans I’m worried about. Also, FWIW they outnumbered Braves fans in Turner when I went last summer.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 20, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
An outside opinion, not that anyone asked. The last thing that would make me convert would be someone yelling, shouting, and waving a broom in my face.
Loyalty is tough to come by anymore, in any facet of life. I think team loyalty begins at a young age. There is no doubt that as kids are born and raised with trips to the Trop, Rays fans will soon begin putting down roots and reaping the seeds you have sown. It ain’t gonna happen overnight, but the winning ways of the Rays right now is a good way to attract young and impressionable fans who want to be a part of something special.
"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray
by Cribbs463 on Jun 20, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We dont want you as a convert...
we would rather you not show up at all. so if yelling, shouting and waving a broom at you works, then mission accomplished. What you describe is not going to happen, b/c all these fans from up north bring their kids to the Trop in Sox/Yanks gear to rout against the home team. I wave my broom at them too!
BOHICA
by Mr. Tonight TB on Jun 20, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
That won’t keep me from coming. I will come because the Cubs are in town, like I do when they play the Marlins, Braves, and many other road trips. I enjoy seeing other parks and attending games at other stadiums. It’s part of baseball. I imagine if you lived elsewhere, you would show up at other stadiums, dressed in Rays regalia, ready to cheer them on when they came to town. I would welcome you and root against you, but still hope you came. That’s what part of the fun and appeal is, personally.
But hey, that’s just me.
For what it’s worth, I am sure that Rays ownership was very pleased with the large crowds last week, and the money spent on tickets and concessions. It helps your team, for Pete’s sake.
So, I will bow out of this thread, just wanted to offer my opinion.
Good luck to y’all.
"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray
by Cribbs463 on Jun 22, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are retarded. I was 18 when the rays first took the field, I had no problem chucking a former hometown team out the window. Cheer for the team where you live.
by putupyourDUKES on Jun 20, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Dukes
Exactly the response I expected from you. I am glad you chucked your old team. However for me, it’s more than just pulling for an old team.
Honestly, if you moved to say, Omaha, and they got a MLB team, would you ditch the Rays and pull for the new hometown team?
I won’t even dignify the name calling. I hope you never have a mentally challenged child.
"Oh, I get a little tired now and then, but knowing my lifestyle, that's only natural." -- Harry Caray
by Cribbs463 on Jun 22, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
Give me a heads up when you’re the Trop so you can avoid my broom next time.
Jamie DeLuca
by JDeLuca on Jun 20, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion what is acceptable changes based on who the person is.
EXACTLY
You should’ve seen some of the Chicago pricks at the game yesterday. This little punk, probablly 5’7 150 lbs was yapping away after the game at a Rays fan walking in front of me and they almost fought after the tiny Ciubs fan bumped into the Rays fan. It seemed like Cubbie jagoffs couldnt just tuck their tails between their legs and walk away after the game. They had to be sore losers after acting like pricks all game long. They all kept saying “we’re still in 1st place”, with a tone like they thought that meant the Cubs were STILL better than the Rays, LOL
by blazinrayz on Jun 20, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
btw
whne the Cubs scored yesterday I heard The Trop get as loud as I ever heard it. Louder than Yankee and Red Sox fans make it. THAT was embarrassing
by blazinrayz on Jun 20, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Desperate times call for desperate measures...
Jamie DeLuca
by JDeLuca on Jun 20, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My sister is raising my nephew to be a Yankee fan
I’m doing my best to steer him in the right direction.
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
by Orlando Rays on Jun 20, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does one raise a kid to be a Yankee fan?
I’m imagining nightly floggings and meals consisting of gun powder and bloody meat.
by floridaroar on Jun 20, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon garbage. Sorry, if you live in tampa, don’t be a douchebag and cheer against your hometown team.
by putupyourDUKES on Jun 20, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need real fans who are willing to dump a bag of syringes on Josh Hamilton,
and call out wife beaters and evolution-deniers.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Not a fan of born again-ness myself
But my sense is the kind of folks that would stoop to syringe treatment – or over the top trash talk & behavior to visiting fans – have plenty of skeletons in their own closet. You’ve likely had to put up with it from the worst of visiting fans, and the Rays past records didn’t give you much to stand on. It’s beating them on the field and in the standings that shuts them up.
I understand the frustration of being outnumbered in your home park – but winning should solve that. Saw it happen here in Anaheim. I like the Angels – but not nearly as much as I did before losing playoff series and taking crap from their fans. The simple fact is being a fan is a personal decision. There’s no rule that you have to root for the locals – those who insist so better hope they don’t get attractive job offers elsewhere. There’s never a need to act like an a** – loud support is fine, abuse is just bad character.
A long history of losing doesn’t convey the right to be bad winners. Neither does a long history of winning. Broom waving is perfectly acceptable – sticking it in someone’s face isn’t. These fans are financing your team – as are the others around the country who support theirs while those in Tampa don’t. The latter have been your true culprits.
But an upward attendance trend is developing. Why not just ride with that? Boorish behavior might alienate some newfound Rays fans, while those of the opponents are likely to return just to see their team when they can. And the worst of them are the most likely to stick it out. You could be defeating your own purpose.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jun 24, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you make $35,000 per year and pay out $15 per seat to sit in the outfield for a game...
...you’re going to scream at the opposing players that make millions. It’s just a fact. The trick is to be clever about it (suggestion: raining leaflets for local methadone clinics down on Hamilton).
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 24, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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