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Today it's the Colorado Rockies' reliever Brian Fuentes. Ken Rosenthal had this to say about the possiblity of Fuentes landing by the bay:

The Mets, Phillies, Yankees and Rays are among the clubs interested in Fuentes. For the Rays, Fuentes could provide more potent left-handed stuff than J.P. Howell and Trever Miller and serve as a capable closer if Troy Percival wore down later in the season.

Like Sabathia Fuentes is a free agent at season's end, but on a scale of 1-10 I would say he's an 11 far more re-signable than Sabathia. The only question, again, is what's his price and what's the team's price in acquiring Fuentes.  One problem I see with Fuentes is that his K rate has declined going on four straight years, but so has his walk rate so that somewhat evens out.

Also, while we will post rumors from reliable sources, I do strongly urge everyone to remember that the Rays will likely call just about every team concerning a player or two, but talks usually don't proceed too far. Another note: we're going to be included in almost every trade rumor from here until the deadline, it's the contenders tag rumor curse so to speak, but I don't think anyone will mind after years and years of being labeled sellers.

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So:

Percy
Wheeler/Fuentes
Howell
Reyes/Balfour
Miller or Hammel

...Eh, if its not too expensive I’d be fine with that.

by P Brady on Jun 24, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

i like Fuentes

but they aren’t gonna take Percy’s job which means Wheeler turns into a 7th inning guy and Howell is just a random MR. Why fuck with 2 guys who have worked so well?

Percival, Fuentes, Wheeler, Howell, Balfour, Reyes, Hammel is probably the way we would go. Glover would be gone which is nice, so will Miller once Reyes returns unless we trade Hammel. We can also pretty easily resign him. I wonder what the Rockies would want.

by joeybw on Jun 24, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Fuentes would help the pen...

But I wouldnt trade much for him. The bullpen is this team’s strength right now with Howell, Balfour, Wheeler, and Percy. Hell, even Reyes was showing some positive signs prior to landing on the DL.

Lets go after a bat instead…and I wont even mention who I’d like, cause it’s getting old.

by td32 on Jun 24, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think he'd be that easy to resign

For the simple fact that he will want to close. He stands to lose a lot of money by not having those “S’s” attached to his statistics. As dumb as that is, its better to be an average closer getting saves than a great MR guy. Those saves make a reliever’s paycheck.

by rglass44 on Jun 24, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup

A stocked prospect pipeline along with a play-off contending team get you that. Fuentes makes no sense for the Rays. At $5MM, you can’t even count on the draft pick compensation because who wants to risk having a $6+ MM middle reliever if he accepts arbitration?

by faketeams on Jun 24, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a big bat....

Fuentes is a dominant lefty and I would love to have this guy, hell, any team in the league would love to have this guy.

But the Rays need a Bat….A big one

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Jun 24, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

BARRY BONDS!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 24, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found this at mlbtraderumors.com re: Bonds

Per an article on cbs sportsline tonight:

“The outfielder, who turns 44 on July 24, has been offered by Borris to all 30 teams for a prorated share of the $390,000 minimum.”

www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10877664

Posted by: hrb2112 | June 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM

by bobr on Jun 26, 2008 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

everyone at Lone Star Ball...

...seems to think you guys are interested in the always fragile Milton Bradley…

oh… and they want one of your top pitching prospects…

just laughable…

by oc on Jun 26, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Given the likely cost in talent to marginally improve an already solid bullpen, adding Fuentes would only make sense if other moves involving the pitching staff were also in the works, which seems unlikely.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 24, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

hey here is a interesting rumor found here http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080617&content_id=2946951&vkey=trade2008&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

it says that ejax is on the block and some team could be converted into a closer lol once i read that i just started laughing! also it says that jason hammel is on the block and that teams might be interested in him because of his high upside

by RaysOfHope on Jun 24, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

E-Jax? On the trading block?

It’s more likely than you think. Actually I doubt you’d be taking that big of a step down by selling off Jackson and bringing up Niemann to take his place. The way he’s performed this year has me convinced that he’s going to be a successful major-leaguer despite his inconsistencies, but if the Rays can get some lumber for him at the trading deadline for him, they might pull the trigger.

As for Hammel, the value on his return is whoever gets called up to take the roster spot he’s got. As far as I’m concerned, he’s an oxygen thief. He still may have a future as a pitcher, but it won’t be here. The sooner we can move him, the better.

by kericr on Jun 25, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why the hell are we even discussing trading for a reliever.

Has a mid-season trade for a relief pitcher ever put a team over the top? I mean EVER?

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 25, 2008 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Kind of true.

He was a big help for the Marlins that year, but remember they traded Adrian Gonzalez to get him (granted the Rangers squandered him, but still). With the starting pitching that the Marlins had that year, I’m not sure they couldn’t have won without him (also Bartman comment).

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jun 25, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adrian Gonzalez

He was a 21 year old in AA ball putting up a good OPS for his age and league and this was before Urbina went - dare I say wombat style - with the machete.

Hell, look at Chad Fox that year too, or Spooneybarger.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 25, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is some question about whether any mid-season trade

has ever put a team over the top-or at least any deadline deal. And that is for players, starters or relievers. (Ever may be overstating it, but I know there is research that suggests that most deadline deals really have little effect.)

However, without checking any further, I can tell you one deal for a reliever that almost certainly put a team over the top, and it happened not mid-season but in September. In 1964, the Yankees dealt for Pedro Ramos who became their closer, and I doubt the Yankees would have made the World Series that year without him. He was ineligible to play in the Series as the deal came after August 31, but that September he was just about perfect in relief with a win and 7 or 8 saves down the stretch. He seemed to pitch every day in September.

by bobr on Jun 25, 2008 6:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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