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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

You're Not Hack Wilson

One of the most important things a hitter can do is work the count, the seemingly redundant act of making a pitcher throw pitches, not just to tire him out, but to increase your chances as a hitter of having a productive result. In Moneyball Michael Lewis compared it to playing a hand in blackjack. With each subsequent pitch the batter is increasing or decreasing the odds of something good happening. Take a look at the chart below, it's a current look at how batters are doing in any given count.

B S OPS
0 0 0.866
1 0 0.882
2 0 0.981
3 0 1.764
0 1 0.753
1 1 0.851
2 1 0.864
3 1 1.316
0 2 0.387
1 2 0.436
2 2 0.482
3 2 0.808

The league average OPS is .737, meaning of the 12 possibilities there are  seven hitter zones and three pitcher zones.  Eric Hinske said he feels the most comfortable and "excited" in 2-0 counts, and for good reason, he has an exponentially higher chance of making a loud crack occur.

Consider this more than a celebration of cerebration; instead think of it as simply tilting the deck in a hitter's favor. The first three pitches can tell you a ton about the impending result in an at-bat, any combination of 3-0, 0-2 (foul off), 1-2, or 2-1 is met with its own percentages of something good happening,  which is more or less the point of hitting. It makes sense that hitters want to get the count to the point where it favors them, which is why doing certain things, namely swinging at pitches outside of the strike zone, almost never make sense.

 

Name O-Swing%
Jonny Gomes 32.32%
Carl Crawford 30.36%
Cliff Floyd 29.77%
Evan Longoria 24.50%
Jason Bartlett 23.40%
Eric Hinske 22.33%
S. Riggans 22.22%
Carlos Pena 21.24%
Dioner Navarro 20.89%
Aki Iwamura 18.63%
B.J. Upton 13.33%

Above you see each of the Rays hitter next to a statistic called "O-Swing%" essentially the percentage of pitches outside of the zone swung at by the hitter. Gomes, Crawford, and Floyd are the most guilty of this "crime", with Floyd surprising me a bit since I don't usually consider him a hacker. Obviously swinging at a ball is not only hurting your own cause, considering contact is hardly guaranteed (Crawford has the best "O-Contact%" and even then it's only around 68%) and usually that means the pitch is either inside, outside, low, or high and not necessarily a pitch you can do something with.  The real crime however is taking away from a potentially sweeter pitch if the player simply takes the pitch and adds a ball to the count.

Enter Melvin Emmanuel Upton. When I say he's the Rays best hitter, I mean he's the Rays best hitter. He absolutely refuses to swing at anything out of the zone, a paltry 13.33% which ranks him as the 14th best at resisting temptations. The players "in front" of him include Bobby Abreu, Gabe Gross, Frank Thomas, Jack Cust, and Jason Giambi, not awful company whatsoever, on the balls he does swing out of the zone on Upton makes contact roughly 65 percent of the time.

Of all major league hitters Upton has seen the 27th most pitches (in between Brian Giles and Ken Griffey Jr.) and the only Ray above Upton is the guy I called the most underrated player on the team last fall, Akinori Iwamura, who ranks 11th, but to be fair hits leadoff. Iwamura is second on the Rays only to Upton in O-Swing% at 18.63 and he makes contact with 65.56% of the pitches he swings at out of the zone.

A point I'd like to make about Crawford in all of this is when he swings 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, or even in a full count situation his OPS is over .800. The problem is that he's only swung in 60 of those situations, and 40 first pitch situations, in which his OPS is only .687. Looking at 3.29 pitches per plate appearance simply isn't good, and if Carl really does want to improve he needs to learn that taking pitches doesn't mean you're weak or that you can't hit a baseball, it means you understand that the pitcher's job is to get you out, and recognize that the odds can only go up in your favor if you take a few of his pitches.

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that was a very good article,

i like how you snuck Gabe Gross right in the middle of Bobby Abreu and Frank Thomas…

by davidsmarch on Jun 3, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Gross' piece comes tomorrow.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

recognize that the odds can only go up in your favor if you take a few of his pitches.

Not quite. The odds go up if you take pitches out of the strike zone.

Your point is well taken about the value of working the count but I am not sure if we see the application the same way at all.

I think of ‘Batting Eye’ as a skill like any other skill, one that can be nutured and developed to a point, but not one that is simply a matter of will or will power. Try as they might, Gomes and CC will never have the batting eye of BJ in much the same way that Eckstein will never have the power of Pujols.

Guys spend years developing their approach, Carl calls his ‘aggressive’. I am certain that it is not a matter of ignorance to their understanding of the ball/strike/OPS chart above that CC swings at too many balls. Guys like CC usually become a bit more selective with experience until their physical skills (like bat speed) start to erode.

To demand that CC becomes more selective immediately is almost certainly non productive and I believe lacks an understanding of his personal physiology.

Lack of a batting eye is certainly a deficiency in a player’s skill set. But is is not curable with a chart of pitch count efficiency.

RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting

by ttnorm on Jun 3, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, that didn't display correctly

The blockquote should have ended with the first sentence. My bad for not using preview.

RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting

by ttnorm on Jun 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the gray box error.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair points.

I don’t expect Carl to grow into B.J.’s eye, but rather just grow enough where he can take advantage of the count like he’s done in the past.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 3, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't doubt that he will

It’s a long season. Nothing to be alarmed about yet.

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by ttnorm on Jun 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m going to show this article to the pitchers on my little brothers American Legion team. I was talking about this same thing last week, only from a pitchers point of view. I’ve been trying to get them to pound the strike zone early and stay out of hitters counts. I’ve also been trying to get them to read The Physics of Baseball by Adair. It’s a must read for the “smarter” players that can grasp the concepts and apply them on the field.

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by SeanDubbs on Jun 3, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Teach the kids a changeup

It astounds me how many prospects come into the minors with the inability to change speeds. Everyone doesn’t have a great fastball, so for those that don’t changeups are key. I barely broke 80 when I pitched in high school, but had a high strikeout rate because I could throw a changeup in the high 60’s.

by Jason Collette on Jun 3, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitch selection

All I preach is changing speeds and disrupting a hitters timing. Also trying to make the batter as uncomfortable in the box as possible. Most of the kids that were pitching used to able to get by throwing just a fastball in Little League, now it’s the kids that have the good defenses behind them that are standing out.

We have one kid that is a lefty that throws slower than any of the other pitchers, but has the most success. He throws his 2-seamer to right handers that moves down and away which causes them to lunge and try to pull it, typically popping up to the SS or 2B, and throws the same 2-seamer in on lefties and uses his change up away to get them out. So far he’s logged 4 IP with 4H 4K 0BB and 0R. Kids this age have no idea what to do with movement.

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by SeanDubbs on Jun 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Adairs book is a good read and the seminal book on physics and baseball. Al Nathan has a nice site to look through as well.

RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting

by ttnorm on Jun 3, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

does a foul ball or a strike when the count is 3-1 do anything for his ops at that time in the count?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 3, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 3, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is also a bit misleading. First off I’d like to make a distinction between working the count and swinging at bad pitches. It is also bad to swing at bad pitches. If it is a ball, the batter shouldn’t swing. However, I disagree that it is better to “work” the count. If a pitcher throws a strike at 0-0 the odds say that you swing and make contact on that pitch. If you go down 0-1 you odds of getting a hit are smaller than 0-0. That can be said for pretty much any count. So, I think the key is simply to swing and hit strikes, and allow balls out of the zone to become balls. That is the only way to boost your odds of success.

by matthan on Jun 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

By this you suggest...

That every strike is a pitch that the batter should swing at, and nothing could be further from the truth. Being selective and hitting the right strike, not every strike, is the key to being a good hitter. If I have a runner on third and less than two outs and you throw me a 0-0 curveball for a strike that is on the lower/outer half of the plate, I’m going to take that pitch. If you do get me to 0-1 then I’ll swing at that same pitch the next time around, but if it’s a ball and the count is now 1-1 then I’ve just put myself in about the same position as if the count was 0-0.

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by SeanDubbs on Jun 3, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based purely on numbers, it is the truth. Obviously not all strikes are the same. And not all situations would be the same. Statistically a hitter does better on a 0-0 count than a 0-1 count than a 0-2 count. But of course there are numerous situations where a hitter should take a pitch. And also I’m sure a hitter has a better chance at hitting a 0-2 meatball than a 0-0 tough pitch that is a strike, but not where they like it. My point was keeping the bat on your shoulder to “work the count” can very often put the hitter in some pretty bad situations. Especially if it is against a strike thrower.

by matthan on Jun 3, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also for some hitters they hit the ball better in certain zones that would be considered a ball compared to certain areas of the strike zone. I’d rather them swing at the pitches they can actually hit hard compared to strikes that they cannot touch.

by matthan on Jun 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you just summed up

Vladimir Guerrero’s approach to hitting.

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by SeanDubbs on Jun 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asides from the complete disappearance of his HR stroke

Upton has been awesome this year. He’s second in the AL in walks, he’s hitting .305, has 17 steals, leads the team in RBIs, etc. You have to think the power is going to come eventually.

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by killa3312 on Jun 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyway you can get this O-Swing% stat on Reid Brignac?

He is a XBH monster in AAA, but people have concerns on his K rate, and people tell me he swings at pitches out of the zone too much. I just want some proof.

by Cory Alexander on Jun 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

i’d like a look

by daveh33 on Jun 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

not available

The data for the major leaguers is available because of the pitchf/x systems in place around major league parks. Those systems are not in minor league parks because they are quite expensive.

by Jason Collette on Jun 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's possible the team has data though.

I know, for instance, the A’s used a version of O-Swing% in 2002.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 3, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

because you can’t get a walk on a pitch when the count has less than 3 balls, this stat is pretty inflated. but i suspect averages go up as well, not just ops.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 3, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

But 3-2

has a lower OPS, than 0-0 and 1-0. interesting

by LeftRight on Jun 3, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense to me

guys swinging at 0-0 or 1-0… its voluntary… many guys take defensive swings with 2 strikes, even if the count is full

by daveh33 on Jun 3, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we know

the percentage of HR’s in those counts?

by LeftRight on Jun 3, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind though,

There are anomalies that throw off any statistic in a small amount. Analysts do their best to try and weed things out that aren’t a truthful indicator of player performance, hence the rise of UIBB/9, but there’s always going to be error in there. Blown calls negatively impacting nearly every statistic, the official scorer’s decisions can impact both offensive and defensive stats, etc. These things are going to happen because baseball, like everything else, is an inexact science. That’s why no specific numbers should be looked at with rigidity, since there are any number of factors that could be inflating or deflating the statistic in question. Still, you can be pretty sure that the stats are accurate with respect to the general pattern that they illustrate.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 3, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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