If Percy goes on the DL....

by td32 on Jun 30, 2008 10:18 PM EDT Comment 37 comments

Percy has to go on the DL now. I used to pitch, and could see he has been favoring his hamstring on his follow through. These could lead to a ton of problems if he continues to pitch...namely, the Rays blowing leads and him getting more injured. So Who gets called up? Is Reyes close? Salas is on the 7 day DL right now, so I dont think he is the guy. Is Niemann the guy? Dohmann has pulled a Balfour and is dealing down there...Thayer has posted good numbers.

I am assuming Reyes will be the guy, but if not, who do you guys see?

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I would like to see Neimann's career as a RP get started

and Wheeler would be a much better closer

by joeybw on Jun 30, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Casey Fossum

by Sylar on Jun 30, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll Raise you either Hideo Nomo or Jae Seo

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 1, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, my bad. The answer is Nieman

by Pie-O-My on Jun 30, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

percival has been somewhat of a dissapointment to me…it doesnt do good in the clutch…whats the deal!?

by RAYS44 on Jun 30, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We havent lost any games he has pitched in

by td32 on Jun 30, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wut?

Percival has been dissapointing as of late. Pitching on one leg will do that to you. He needs to heal up. He’s the best pitcher in the bullpen when he’s at 100%, but our bullpen is so good that he might be the worst at 70%.

by kericr on Jun 30, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wheeler...

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 30, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Wheeler can be the closer, I'll agree with that

IMO you can’t be the best guy in the bullpen if you can’t close games, regardless of whether or not you’re actually tasked with it. If I remember correctly in Houston, he wasn’t as good standing in for Brad Lidge as he was getting the game to him. He is lights-out as a setup guy though.

by kericr on Jul 1, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They must keep the aged reliever merry-go-round moving.. so we are due for a Reyes sighting.

Otherwise, Dohmann.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 30, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wheeler

Nobody else comes close.

by floridaroar on Jun 30, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't mind dealing for Fuentes at this point

Percival has definitely gotten the job done, but I’m getting the impression he’s working on borrowed time.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 30, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I dont like the idea of giving up prospects for a reliever....

I liked the way Reyes looked in his last few appearances before he went down. I’d be curious to hear some scouting reports on how Dohmann is throwing stuff-wise, because his numbers are awesome.

by td32 on Jul 1, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No reason to get crazy...

Reyes activated and Wheeler the primary closer.

by K-Rock on Jul 1, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope Thayer as a temporary stop gap until Reyes returns.

Anyway, when was Trever Miller’s last effective outing? My wife and I cringe whenever he comes in the game (yes, more than Glover/Hammel) because he LOVES walking the left handed batter he’s brought in to face. I know his Batting Average numbers are good versus lefties, but how many has he walked?

Jamie DeLuca

by JDeLuca on Jul 1, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Miller's WHIP against Lefties is about 1.10...

Which is pretty good.

by td32 on Jul 1, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He has 6 walks in 11 2/3 innings against lefties

And his WHIP is actually 1.20 against lefties

by td32 on Jul 1, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would like to see Thayer get a shot as well

by LeftRight on Jul 1, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leave Percival on the DL until his leg is healthy again. I mean completely healthy and he’ll be ready for the stretch run where he IS needed. This may be a break that Troy needed since he hasn’t pitched in over two seasons. His arm may be a bit wary as we know his leg is.

My vote is for Neimann to be called up and he will be as Indians GM Mark Shapiro wants to see Jeff throw. Talking to a few hombre’s from Cleveland they’re dropping Neimann’s name up there so negotiations must be in order.

My ultimate vote would be to trade Neimann for Sabathia and put Edwin in the pen. Unlike many, I love Jacksons arm and don’t want to see him go. I believe he could be dominant in the pen.

by John 63 on Jul 1, 2008 7:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would imagine it would take another elite prospect...

To land Sabathia. Maybe a Brignac along with Niemann. Hell, I’d try and trade Jackson and Niemann for Sabathia, but I just dont think that would be enough.

by td32 on Jul 1, 2008 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope that we don't trade Brignac

by matthan on Jul 1, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Niemann + Brignac won't be enough

Sabathia is the best piece on the market. There are 2 other teams in our own division in need of pitching not to mention the NL teams that need help.

by Jason Collette on Jul 1, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

We tend to over-value our own guys.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 1, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The last time the Indians dealt a top-shelf arm near the deadline, they sent Bartolo Colon to the Expos for Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips.

Phillips was a top-ranked 20-yr-old SS in Triple-A. Lee was dominating Double-A. Sizemore was the athletic 19-yr-old OF in high-A just starting to figure things out.

Granted, Omar Minaya isn’t too bright.. but yes, it will definitely take a lot more than Niemann and Brignac.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jul 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Niemann and Brignac are 2 top 100 players in the minors...

It may take a bit more, but not a whole lot I would think. They have to get rid of Sabathia.

by td32 on Jul 1, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair to Omar, the Expos were fighting to literally exist the following season. Omar had to do everything he could to make the team decent (they were off to a reasonably good start that year) and he didn’t have to worry about the future at all.

But I agree: it will take more than Niemann and Brignac. Davis and Brignac, perhaps…

by Peter Bendix on Jul 1, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Talking about the Expos brings back memories.

I was at this game: Glavine vs. Colon: July 2002, Montreal.

Guerrero and Cliff Floyd hit big HR’s and Colon threw a CG. It was one of the funnest games I’ve ever attended. The next day, Wil Cordero hit a grand slam off Damian Moss and took a blowout win, then it was all downhill from there.

I still say the fans were not the issue in Montreal, but the white elephant stadium (total spent: $1.4 billion Canadian in construction and repairs to the constantly broken roof) made it virtually politically impossible to build a new baseball-only park and the relative lack of competitive media outlets killed that source of revenue and also resulted in sub-par coverage of the team.

I would agree they were fighting for their existence in Montreal, but contraction was purely a negotiating ploy. Minaya and four years of shady MLB ownership dismantled what was once a great farm system.

Back on topic:
Davis and Brignac might get it done. I have to think Niemann’s stock has fallen from that of a top 100 prospect.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jul 1, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs