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6/3: RAYS (35-23) at BOS (36-25)

Tampa Bay Rays @ Boston Red Sox


RAYS at Boston

7:05; RAYS TV/ION, ESPN
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
RAYS RH E. Jackson
65.2 3.70 111 6.44 4.39 1.47 0.69 .716 1.45 1.20 16.71
BOS RH J. Beckett
67.0 4.30 101
10.07 1.88 5.36 1.48 .665 1.09 1.00 15.27

RH Edwin Jackson, RAYS-The enigma that is Edwin Jackson takes the hill for the Rays this evening, as they attempt to even up the series against Boston on national TV. He struggled last time out on Friday against the Chicago White Sox, having given up ten hits and two walks in six innings of work. He surrendered four runs in the outing, a number that surely would have been higher had it not been for his luck at getting double plays in critical situations.

Simply put, Jackson still gives up too many baserunners to sustain success. His K:BB is very much in line with the 1.45 total that he put up last year in a full season of duty with the Rays, and his G:F is actually lower than it has been in his past two seasons as a Devil Ray. The only stark difference for Jackson this year is that he has been giving up far fewer home runs. He has given up just 0.69 per nine innings this year, as opposed to 1.06 in 2007, despite him inducing fewer groundball outs.

Opposing teams just aren't plating as many runs against Jackson as they should be, and this trend was personified in his last start. Chicago had numerous opportunities to knock Jackson out of the game early, but in a problem that the Sox had all series, they just couldn't get runners in scoring position to the plate. Some would give Jackson credit for stymieing the Sox from getting more, but that ignores the greater trend that will pose problems for him in the future. He isn't getting out of these jams based on some intangible ability that he possesses, he is getting out of them due, in large part, to luck. Similarly, he isn't giving up as many home runs as he was last year for the same reason. You simply don't see your groundball rate drop, and then see your home run rate cut by 30% at the same time, at least in any long-term sample size.

The lesson here is simply that Jackson needs to tighten things up with regards to allowing baserunners, and he needs to induce more ground balls. The unfortunate news for Jackson is that he has to start doing that in Fenway Park, where he has an 8.47 ERA in 17 career innings pitched. That includes a May 2nd outing in Fenway, where he gave up six runs in four innings of work. To his credit, however, Jackson has shown the ability to tame the Red Sox's lineup before. That May 2nd start in Boston was his second straight against the Red Sox, and he surrendered just one run in seven innings at home in the first one, so maybe it was just a matter of the Sox being well-acquainted with him in a short period of time. No matter the reason, Jackson can take a big step forward towards making me a believer by having a successful, peripherally-sound start within the unfriendly confines of a division rival.

RH Josh Beckett, Boston-Don't let the ERA fool you, last year's runner-up for the Cy Young is just as dangerous as ever, and the Rays get to face him this evening at Fenway. Almost the entireity of Beckett's problems this year can be traced to his troubles with the long ball, as his strikeout rate is currently at a career-high. Couple that with a walk rate under two, and you have a pitcher that is just not getting any luck. Hitters aren't even really teeing off on him for a high average: his opponents' batting average of .238 this year is actually lower than the .250 mark he put up last year. Pitchers with 1.09 WHIPs don't usually find themselves with an ERA north of four, and yet that's exactly where Beckett finds himself.

So what's the problem? Gopheritis. Beckett is surrendering 1.48 HR/9, a total that hearkens back to his 2006 season, when he allowed 1.58 HR/9 en route to a 5.01 ERA in his first campaign with the Red Sox. Beckett just is allowing too many home runs, and in a league where the teams collectively live and die on the three run homer, you can't do that. He has an even G:F, so you can see where the problem has its roots.

The tendency is crystal-clear for Beckett: limit the long ball, and see tremendous success. In his masterful 2007 season, he gave up just 0.76 HR/9. Nearly double that rate, as in 2006, and you have a sub par performance. This problem has got to be especially frustrating for the Red Sox, since he is excelling in nearly every other statistical category by which you evaluate pitchers. He doesn't allow too many baserunners, but opposing teams have been able to take advantage of the instances in which he does via the home run. With men on, Beckett is being hit to the tune of .320/.366/.560, which is where his problems are. It's all situational.

The good news, so to speak, for Beckett and the Sox is that he has given up just four runs over his last two starts against Oakland and Baltimore. That follows a disastrous home start against the Milwaukee Brewers in which he gave up four home runs. The unfortunate news for Beckett is that he has struggled mightily in three home starts this season, posting a 5.40 ERA in 21.2 innings of work. His last "successful" home start at Fenway came against the Rays on May 3rd, when he gave up four runs in eight innings to earn a win. That followed what is, to date, his best start of the season at Tropicana Field, when he struck out 13 Rays in seven innings while surrendering just one earned run in an eventual loss.

So the Rays, having been tamed by Beckett before, know very well the pattern for success. When you get runners on base, you absolutely have to take advantage of them. If the Rays put up anywhere close to their usual total in the 'LOB' column, they will lose. Beckett simply doesn't allow that many baserunners, so you need to take advantage of the instances in which he does.

Starting Lineups:

RAYS
2B Akinori Iwamura
LF Carl Crawford
CF B.J. Upton
DH Cliff Floyd
3B Evan Longoria
C Dioner Navarro
1B
Eric Hinske
RF Gabe Gross
SS Jason Bartlett
Boston
LF Jacoby Ellsbury
2B Dustin Pedroia
RF
J.D. Drew
DH Manny Ramírez
3B
Mike Lowell
1B Kevin Youkilis
C Jason Varitek
CF Coco Crisp
SS Julio Lugo

With 1B Carlos Peña having been placed on the 15 Day DL due to a fractured index finger, the Rays have a different-looking lineup heading into tonight's game. Cliff Floyd moves into the cleanup spot in the lineup, while Dioner Navarro moves up a spot into the No. 6 hole. Gabe Gross takes over as the starting right fielder in place of Eric Hinske, who slides over to first base to take Peña's place. Hinske moves up in the order to take the No. 7 spot, while Gross will occupy the No. 8 hole.

Boston Manager Terry Francona throws out the same lineup today as he did for last night's game, with the exception of a swap between 1B Kevin Youkilis and RF J.D. Drew. Francona's rationale in making the switch was that Youkilis has struggled against Jackson, while Drew is starting to get hot. He is correct on both counts, with Drew hitting .412/.500/.824 since May 26th and Youkilis hitting .091/.286/.182 in 14 career plate appearances against Jackson.

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Edwin time!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 4, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not as good as Dickey time.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He should be in the rotation, dammit.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MVP

Cornelius Clifford Floyd

by Hazleton Jason on Jun 4, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess Ruggs hasn't made it to Boston yet

Wouldve love to have seen him penciled in RF tonight

by Hazleton Jason on Jun 4, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Prediction

Game rains out and I successfully turn this thread into a UF football hijack. Oh wait, that was the Pena thread.

I’ll take Bartlett.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is the Tampa one...

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Refresh then.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There

The lineups, data, and text should all be correct now. We had a technical snafu (aka R.J. screwed up) to begin with.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 4, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AKA Patrick takes forever.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! WE'RE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!!!

MVP = Jackson. Ed-win comes out of nowhere to out-duel Beckett.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you drunk?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

But if bad E-Jax shows I just might be. I’ll watch the ESPN broadcast (if I can) so I can be amazed at how little the commentators know about us.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoosiers moment here...

Let’s go mesure the basepaths.

“It’s 90 ft from home to first just like at the trop!”

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope you eat crow tonight

Though I’m sure you hope you eat crow too. I can’t really disagree. I definitely felt an ominous feeling last night, even when we were in the lead.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was at the last series we played up there-

the one were Shields and Kazmir got rocked, and they just didin’t have it… not sure if was weather or nerves or Fenway, but it just seems like a mental thing…

by Hazleton Jason on Jun 4, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Might be just Fenway

The Red Sox home/road splits are insane.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thier joke of a stadium

They give the Trop crap, but Fenway is just as much of a joke.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

EJax...

My magic 8-ball says EJax will have great game. Granted it was my second time asking. The first time the 8-ball said “ask again later.”

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey....

you do things like my head master at my high school. (sorry he made his graduation speech about how he makes decisions with a magic 8 ball)

Hopefully the magic 8 ball is right

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 4, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey I used to love abuse my Magic 8 ball as a kid.

“will I throw you against the wall?” the magic 8-ball said “yes” so I did.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is tonight's game blacked out on ESPN?

If so, brighthouse dame sure better give me an HD option.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

It is a local blackout in the New England and Tampa Bay TV markets.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 4, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So...

This game better be on Brighthouse HD, right?

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its on ion in orlando (brighthouse) i know that

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit,

I set my TV on record. Where is the intelligents to black out a market that can’t make it to a sold out game?

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think its also an attempt to protect ION

Not that I agree with it. If anything, a national telecast could facilitate interest in the team that could later show up in local TV ratings.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, I see their point

if the game was not sold out. “You want to see the game. Go to the game.” But, bloody hell man, this is a sold out game that i would love to see the Bristol beanheads totally mock the Rays.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll shit if EJax has a good game

This exact same weather owned Shields and Kazmir last time we were at Fenway, so my hopes aren’t really up for this one.

by Vin on Jun 4, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Realistically speaking

I think you’re going to be dropping feces soon one way or the other.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're probably right.

I’ve been having some terrible gut rot lately.

by Vin on Jun 4, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish that was it man...

but I’m not yuppy/gay enough to drink Starbucks.

by Vin on Jun 4, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7-11 works better

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineups?

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah ha!

Rays:
Iwamura, 2B
Crawford, LF
Upton, CF
Floyd, DH
Longoria, 3B
Navarro, C
Hinske, 1B
Gross, RF
Bartlett, SS

Jackson, P

Red Sox:
Ellsbury, LF
Pedroia, 2B
Drew, RF
Ramirez, DH
Lowell, 3B
Youkilis, 1B
Varitek, C
Crisp, CF
Lugo, SS

Beckett, P

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I learned how to look up...

sorry.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peña hit a double and a homer last night after breaking a finger on a HBP?

Break out the Carlos Peña Facts. He’s so manly he makes Chuck Norris cry.

And if you don’t include the “ñ” in Carlos Peña’s name, he will kill you with a mere touch.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Levitra commercials in HD are not a good idea

Especially without good makeup.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AAAARGFGG!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Must Admit

Staats, Magrane and Kalas bore me

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAIL

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They do say quite a few ridiculous things as well

Such as last night, when Staats lauded Hinske, who is pretty much a dead pull hitter (save a few flyouts to LF and groundouts to SS) on his ability to stay inside the ball. Great tihng to say for Longo or BJ…not so much for Hinske

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 4, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd agree with that.

They probably have some wiggle room with me simply because somehow they’ve survived 11 seasons of this stuff.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

ANTI-FAIL

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me too

If I was Todd Kalas I would be trying to find Erin Andrews and holla! mmmmmm Erin Andrews….

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You act like he hasn't all ready.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing wrong with his arm though.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd for truth

Unrelated, but I’m beginning to think the Marlins pulled a fast one on them, dumping a declining D-Train and Miggy on them.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D-Train's decline was obvious.

Cabrera is still hitting well, just not at his previous levels.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they signed him for eight figures anyway

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not Rick Porcello though.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as I said

just HALF of their farm system

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wait

Brian Stokes is at AAA for the Mets. Wait until he gets called up…

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then there's McClung yesterday

6 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, as a starter for the Brewers.

You just never know.

There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.

by maris61 on Jun 4, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

McClung will be fine.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope so.

He’s in good hands, and Seth’s a good guy.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even bad pitchers have good days

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just realized last night that Erubiel Durazo fell off of the planet.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody finds this interesting, stupid.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carl Everett's OBP is like .600 in the Atlantic League.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(coughs)

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

... I mean, ...

Really? Wow! Yippee!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're a bad dancer.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, I am.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least

You’re man enough to admit it

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, Durazo was awesome.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Almost game time.

Let’s go Rays!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And there goes ESPN

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So the Mariners game was at 4 today, I'm guessing some LLers may drop in.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game time, yo

Lets do this shit!

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nasty weather

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RAYS TEAM GO!!!!

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW draft open thread starting tomorrow at 12

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's go Rays

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

play misty for me

leads to some classic banter

by Albertrayon on Jun 4, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lets Go

make me a happy man tonight

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what she...

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought he hit that better

what a nasty looking night … lotta empty seats

Protect the Trop: Keep northerners out.

by St Pete Native on Jun 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carl swung first pitch, shocker!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CC:

“Fuck what R.J. says, I don’t need to see pitches.”

by Cory Alexander on Jun 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's no reason he should listen to me.

Otherwise I should be on team payroll.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't imagine the players seeing the ball too well.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow Rays TV cameramen

I dont need a close up of Josh Becketts dick

by Cory Alexander on Jun 4, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What type of feed are you watching?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Floyd's gonna homer

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FAIL

But I think we’ll take it anyway

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STFU

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on cliff...

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice job, Cliff

C’mon Longo. Now would be a good time to snap out of it.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on Longo!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 outs.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tease.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks like evans got some chaw in tonight

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on Longo...

find you pitch…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitch blease.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DAMN

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even though we didn't score

We’re hitting Beckett hard. That’s always a good sign.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

but we haven’t seen jackson yet. it’s a coinflip when it comes to him

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and run up his pitch count.

he is up to 15 pitches… not so good.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dear camera man/woman, STOP FLASHING EVERY AT-BAT

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Awesome catch, Navy

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

26 more outs...

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do not overturn this.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude they better not give him that shit

by dropkicknu on Jun 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a make up call

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing I have to give Edwin.

He’s pretty durable.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hit rates vary, I guess this could be a flukishly low season, we’ll see. I just wish he’d stop walking people.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw, not this again.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God dammit, E-Jax...

In his defense, Pedroia is really good at getting on base.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most of the Sox lineup is.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overrated earned that BB

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on DP...

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

J.D. Drew is a pretty good baseball player.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GOD DAMMIT

Just strike out already!

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love hearing the pink hats cheer every pop up.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just got home and heard CPain on the DL…how long?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 weeks

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whifffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Long inning.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 weeks for a broken finger?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

15-day DL

Shortest he can be gone.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea, i know, but, players go on the 15 day DL for months

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Navarro wasn't gone for months

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought the game was supposed to be on ESPN

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Local blackouts

Only on ION in Florida, only on NESN in New England

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is

Just not in Boston or Tampa Bay.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another stake in the heart of Boston

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha, gameday says hinske flied out

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SB for Hinske

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

http://stuporduck.com/sounds/DS239.wav

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You do realize, you've become a part of our culture as Rays fans.

That’s pretty impressive.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don't know how to react to that idea.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Embrace it, my guess.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, fellas, Posey or Beckham?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who do you want

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say Posey

We already have Bartlett and Brignac for SS in the organization.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea when posey is ready 2010, Navi will be in his 5th year and trade time

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

Good pitch by Beckett

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our defense has become choice.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOSSMAN!!!

One ill turn deserves another…

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Torii Hunter on reputation alone.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was about to say the same thing

But the Angels probably won’t play him enough in CF for him to qualify.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they cheer, and fall silent when Beej catches it.

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nor sure i ever saw Youk go down on three straight pitches

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fossum pitched last night for the Tigers.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only 1 run in one third of an inning…he was always 2 run/inning pitcher

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 4, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Edwin is on the mound tonight

Now get him some fucking run support!!!

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on rays!

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 4, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shit

Beckett appears to be settling down. C’mon Edwin, lock it down.

by JMB on Jun 4, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These have been some long innings.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 4, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

E-Jac needs a couple economical innings

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 4, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs