A starter short

by Ben Tumbling on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 AM EDT Comment 19 comments

Outside of Kaz and Shields, I think we can agree that rest of the Rays starting pitching is iffy.

Some have suggested going after names like Maddux or Lowe.

With the Seattle Mariners' implosion, Erick Bedard is someone who should become available soon. I imagine that with his team in the gutter and him under-performing, both sides might not want to be with each other anymore.

What would realistically be the price to acquire him? Brignac and McGee?

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I have always liked bedard. I agree we are at least one starter short. It would be fantastic if we could deal for him, but I doubt it would happen.

by RaysTheRoof on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are we back to the days of "Kazmir and Shields, then off come the wheels"?

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by Orlando Rays on Jun 5, 2008 7:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The last 3 are better then last year but the answer is still yes.

And this year the offense isn’t going to win to many 7-6 games.

by K-Rock on Jun 5, 2008 7:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Answer is...

If the Rays are competing and want to make a trade for a pitcher there is one available, but it will cost. With the stockpile of Minor Leaguers in the Rays system, many will be playing in Durham in the near future for extended periods of time even though they’re M.L. ready. So the question is, do you go after a pitcher that’s a stud for rent the rest of the year and allow some younger players a shot at being with another club at the M.L. level rather than rotting in Durham or not?

C.C. Sabathia is on the market NOW! He would be a rent-a-player as he’s going to test the free agent market at the end of the season. His asking price is $150M. He will not remain a Ray if he is traded for. Is it worth getting a pitcher of his caliber to make a run at the playoffs and possibly winning the series?

Depending on what Indians GM Mark Shapiro asks for (I assume pitching) this can be doable for the Rays as we’re stockpiled in the Minors. The longer the Indians wait to ship Sabathia out, the less they’ll recieve as they realize they can’t afford his price tag.

Sometimes you just have to go for it! However, most GM’s and fans suffer from the old cliche’ “the fear of loss is greater than the desire for gain.”

by John 63 on Jun 5, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather take a shot with the talent we have

and compete for years to come. There is so much talent in the system right now, I don’t see the need to be impatient a rent-a-player for a chance to make the playoffs this year.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the answer is no,

come on people, one or two bad times through the rotation and you’re jumping all over these guys. give me a break, the sky is not falling. ALL PITCHERS HAVE BAD OUTINGS, all of them, even the best ones. hell, Webb just had two bad outings in a row, if he was on our team you all would be screaming that we need to replace him. come on now, relax.

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Overreaction seems typical nowadays.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least there is a reaction

I guess

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

But the only people’s job on the team that should be called for are Glover/Hammel at this point.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

so our #3 and #4 have bad games back to back

and we are already mentioning Lowe and Maddux? Garza is better than your average #3, and Jackson still has an ERA under 4. Maybe you forgot about the 3 gems he pitched that the bullpen/offense blew for him? As a #4 Jackson is just fine. Why not send Glover down, move SOnny to the bullpen and call Niemann up before we make any trades?

Did everyone forget a) its only June 5 and 2) we have a handful of young pitchers on the verge of being ready to be pu tin the rotation

No reason to stray from the plan now.

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It makes WAY more sense to trade for Brian Fuentes

Buster Olney mentioned on BBTN that Fuentes will be traded by the deadline. Someone mentioned the Yankees, but I see no reason why we wouldnt hve mroe to offer than the Yankees. Inluding a closer’s role for years to come for FUentes, and more prospects to choose from for Colorado

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs