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6/5: 2008 MLB Draft

2008 MLB Draft 

2:00; ESPN 2
Lake Buena Vista, FL

As you all know, the Rays have the No. 1 overall selection in today's MLB draft for the second year in a row, and they will take Georgia High School SS Tim Beckham with the No. 1 overall pick. Here is some information on Beckham:

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via bp2.blogger.com

From Baseball Prospectus' preview of the Top 50 talents:

1. Tim Beckham, SS, Griffin HS (GA)
What He Is: That up-the-middle player who offers the best combination of tools and potential in the draft.
What He’s Not: A guy who grades out as well as the Upton brothers did, so let’s end those comps here and now.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: An All-Star shortstop who hits 20 home runs, steals 40 bases, and plays above-average defense
Backup Plan: Center field
Open Issues: Arguments remain over his ability to stay at shortstop--the athleticism is there, but his fundamentals are shaky--and ultimate power ceiling.

From Baseball America's profile (Sub only):

Beckham solidified his status as the nation's top high school position player last year when he produced the most impressive overall performance on the summer showcase circuit. He was consistently the best player at each event he attended and capped his performance by winning MVP honors at the Aflac Classic at the end of the summer. A wiry, athletic shortstop, Beckham hasn't produced eye-popping performances this spring, but his track record and projection make him the nation's most coveted high school prospect. He has five legitimate tools. At the plate he has the ability to be an above-average hitter with average power. He's a solid runner and his athleticism is a part of his everyday game. In the field, Beckham has smooth major league actions with an above-average arm. He has drawn comparisons to the Upton brothers, though he has more aptitude in the field and not quite the lightning in the bat. His makeup is a plus, as he displays an enjoyment of the game and energy on the field. He has a commitment to Southern California, but Beckham won't reach campus as he's a likely top 10 pick.

From BrewerFan.net's profile:

Beckham is the type of athlete that makes everything he does look easy. He glides to balls hit deep in the hole to either side of him, and runs the bases gracefully, stretching singles into doubles and doubles into triples. He has good arm strength, soft hands and good instincts that should allow him to star at shortstop for years to come. While his defense draws more raves that his bat, he has improved at the plate over the last year and is now considered a legitimate threat, as he stings the ball to all parts of the field and has also shown the ability to hit the ball out as his body continues to mature and add strength.

From SaberScouting's Bio:

Bio: 6′0, 188, Bats R, Throws R, 18 years old
 The Skinny: Beckham has been coming on hard toward the top spot since the pre-season high school showcases, where he was wowing scouts at each stop. Beckham flashed elite glovework that will play at short in the big leagues, an advanced bat, and the athleticism, makeup, and aptitude to project across the board. Some question his power projection and prefer surer bets from the college ranks. On the other hand, there’s a chance for 5 plus tools and a team willing to take some risk has a good chance at having a future star at the most premium position. Beckham’s the favorite to go #1 to Tampa Bay.
 Pros: Athleticism, Glove, Bat
 Cons: Power, Distance from MLB
 Comparison: Edgar Renteria with more power

MiLB.com has a profile of Beckham along with all of the other top draft candidates, and their page has video as well. Their take on Beckham:

A bonafide five-tool player at a premium position, there's a reason why Beckham is at or near the top of Draft lists everywhere. He's got tools galore, with some idea of how to use them. He'll need to iron out some things mechanically and fundamentally, but he's got the ability and potential to hit, hit for power, steal bases and stay at shortstop at the big-league level.

From his Perfect Game profile:

Tim Beckham is a 2008 SS with a 6'2'', 191 lb. frame from Kennesaw, GA who attends Griffin HS. Strong athletic build. Top level athlete, extremely fast (6.33) with fast twitch actions. Electric hands with bat, explosive quickness, ball jumps hard, simple hitting approach, sees the ball and attacks it, power to all fields. Fluid defensive actions, has some flash, can make all the plays. Elite level athlete with baseball skills.

And here are Beckham's statistics:

.500/.782/.795
 
 AB: 78
 Runs: 40
 Hits: 39
 Doubles: 9
 Triples: 3
 HR: 5
 Total bases: 62
 Walks: 22
 Strikeouts: 5
 Sacrifice flies: 4
 Stolen bases: 16
 RBI: 31

Some other good Beckham-related links:

Baseball America

Baseball Digest Daily (includes swing analysis to B.J. Upton)

RiseMag

USC Trojans31

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Sports Illustrated

Aflac All American Profile

Camden Depot

USA Today

McCovey Chronicles

AP Report on Beckham's basketball love

CBS News report on Beckham

TSN.ca draft report

Credit (and blame, should the need arise) goes to R.J. for the research.

Lastly, we wouldn't want to forget the other four rounds in which the Rays are drafting today. This link will take you to the complete order of the draft, with supplemental rounds and all, but to be succinct, here are the Rays' other selections today:

Round 2 (47th Overall)

Round 3 (78th Overall)

Round 4 (113th Overall)

Round 5 (143rd Overall)

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This is going to be overused.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If?

Don’t do this to me.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't do this to me.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckham will hit

He isn’t Matt Bush. Once he implements his lower body into his swing more, he’ll be set to go. His bat speed is awesome, which is the most important thing.

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by killa3312 on Jun 5, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hope you are right

Myself, I still prefer the old boring, battle-tested college hitter.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those guys aren't any fun

Tools and lack of ceilings are so much more exciting.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I’ve grown tired of Longboringa myself :)

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Price uses vasoline to make his balls move nowadays.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Actions - recommend post

After 3 recs the post turns green.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll hit

Matt Bush he is not

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very in depth thread Patrick.

I’m more interested who we get in the next 4 rounds.

by Cory Alexander on Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

"Credit (and blame, should the need arise) goes to R.J. for the research."

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should have posted it

Pat does nothing and gets the credit. Brilliant!

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's fine.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw You

I actually did real Original Reportingâ„¢ today.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got free food, didn't you?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

While you don't draft for need in round 1?

Don’t you think we should draft a catcher in round 2?

I personally wouldn’t mind, though, if we drafted Kyle Long(Howie’s kid) in Round 2, if available.

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle Long

Is a FIRM and I mean Firm commitment to FSU. He’s not going pro. I’d love to draft him, but he’s completely unsignable.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

His family has plenty

of $$$$$. And his fastball sits in the upper-80’s touching 95 at times. He’s also a raw power hitting firstbaseman. Not the type of can’t miss prospect you want to go throwing millions at to keep him away from college. It would take top of the first round money to sign him and he’s not worth that.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great athlete though

Was a 5star OL recruit before he decided that he didn’t want to play football.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

he signed a LOI for baseball which means he can’t play football. If you’re going to play 2 sports you have to be on scholarship with the sport that has more. This is in response to Miami putting football players on Track Scholarships to get extra guys on the team.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude better lose some weight

FSU baseball is looking good for the next few years.

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Navvy is about 210 buddy

though Fielder is about 270, so that’s comparable…

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prince Fielder does fine.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god for the draft thread,

moron brother in the other thread is giving me a headache.

Rule #1 of Draft Thread: Do Not Talk about Changing Players Positions

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather not have that leak over.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He better.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Lance Lynn please.

Brad Holt/Allan Dykstra/Ryan Westmoreland all interesting.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Tools Tools Tools Tools Tools

That what I want out of rounds 2-5. We got 5 of them in round 1. That makes me happy.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patrick's heading to the presser @ 2:15.

I assume via bike, which is hilarious.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

They let high school kids that ride bikes in at pressers?

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by killa3312 on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, he's not really a high school kid.

Add 40 years to his age and you’re just about right.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where the hell have I been?

I always assumed Patrick was 17 years old :-)

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by killa3312 on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're actually giving him a year.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop playing with my head GDI

:-)

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by killa3312 on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I rode the bus from Clearwater. I left at noon and got to the Trop at 2. I’m guessing that riding my bike would have been a quicker alternative.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm most interested in seeing if any

“1st round talents” slip, Tanner Schleppers or whatever his name is, to round 2.

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scheppers

that could be a nice pick in the 2nd round.

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Summary: Green turned down a large bonus offer a year ago when the Red Sox drafted him in the 15th round, hoping he’d have a strong junior season and vault himself into the first round. Whether he sees that kind of money again remains to be seen, but his performance, one that’s seen him taken from the rotation and nearly buried in the bullpen at Kentucky, doesn’t point to a guy who’s going to go early. That being said, his size and arm strength will still be enough to intrigue someone to take a chance.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=green

I’m weary.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was R.J Harrison the head scout under Lamar also?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Tim Wilken

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a heck of a

scouting director too

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicago.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know you didn’t like Lamar (for obvious reasons), but Wilken did a decent job with the drafts, no?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't dislike LaMar.

Drafting was the one thing he was really good at, pushy owner and yes men were his downfall.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Specifically

him being a yes man to the owner.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rays scouting directors: Dan Jennings, Cam Bonifay, Tim Wilken (04-05), RJ Harrison (06-current)

Correct?

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems right.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

04

Top-5 best drafts ever?

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trades

They need to start allowing trades IMO.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Beckham

When is his projected ETA? ’ 11? ‘12?

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say 2012, we'll see.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopeful timetable?

2008 – New york pen league if signed soon
2009 – low a
2010 – high a
2011 – double a
2012 – begin AAA to majors

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll be promoted on an as earned basis

He’ll most certainly be in Columbus in 09’. It depends on how he does there where he goes next. He could skip High-A if he dominates like you’d expect a #1 pick to do. We’ll see.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

HV vs. Princeton

I know conventional wisdom has him going to Hudson Valley, but I’d actually like to see him start out in Princeton. If he absolutely rakes there for a month then promote him.

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I like challenging prospects

HV might actually be a tougher place to hit than Columbus. Adjusting for talent level, it’s just brutal on hitters.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll be gone probably

But my god, that dude’s got a toolbox.

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't let Tyler know...

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Tyler is now firmly gripping his tool...

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

today is a dream for Tyler

all this talk of tools and such

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just needs Dickey time, furries, and a B.J. encounter and his day will be complete

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

a furry dickey b.j.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

A furry BJ encounter nicknamed Dickey time.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

go to baseballamerica.com
John Manuel has some even fresher draft dope on the Draft Blog.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=288

I just posted it cuz it said “draft dope” which made me roflongoria thinking of Kaz. Look it even has the title draft dope. lol

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember, kids

Draft Dope is only illegal if you intend to sell it!

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Numerous players turned down Major League Baseball’s invitation to come to the Milk House at Disney and be part of the show on site, with only Aaron Hicks, the prep righthander and outfielder from Long Beach, appearing live.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hicks must be like, where is everyone?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

or “i’m here for the gangbang”

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys? .... Guys?

At least he gets the buffet table to himself.

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if John Kruk is around.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it the jose oquendo episode?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny Sklar bros story...

My friend went to the AS game in HOU a couple of years ago. As he was walking around before the game he passed by one of them and did a slight double-take. Mind you he didn’t say or really do anything, but just had this slight hint of recognition. Sklar Bro gives him this douchey “Yeah, you know who I am” head-nod. The best part, is that he could tell that noone else knew or cared who the hell the nerdy looking guy was.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA might

Callis is a monster at predicting the draft. No NFL guy had ever been as good as Callis. He got the first like 15 right in 05’ and only missed like 4 or 5 in the first round.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Déjà vu?
In A Perfect World He Becomes: An All-Star shortstop who hits 20 home runs, steals 40 bases, and plays above-average defense
Backup Plan: Center field

Isn’t this exactly what happened with B.J. Upton?

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Kinda.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best hitter on the team.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea sounds like they just copied and pasted Beej’s scouting report

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ's scouting report is better

More batspeed. 30+ homerun power potential. Better arm.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the man knows his tools

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prospect list:

1. David Price
2. Wade Davis
3. Tim Beckham
4. Jake McGee
5. Jeremy Hellickson

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Ceilings play into affect.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Price was 2nd

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Longoria was first, he's graduated though.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never had Desmond that high.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wondering

where would Posey and Alvarez be if we had taken them?

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Third, maybe second.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our pitchers are great, but this is yet another reason why we better be targeting positional talent this year(barring a top pitcher dropping that we can sign).

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN thats good

Then you got Jennings, Brignac, Niemann, Talbot, (insert a prospect)

by Cory Alexander on Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rays Scouting Director history

I had to find out..

http://www.baseballamerica.com/execdb/?show=franchise&fid=tb#sd

Dan Jennings (1996-2002)
Cam Bonifay (2003-2004)
Tim Wilken (2005)
RJ Harrison (2006-2008)

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

You were right, nicely done.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, Keith Law has Jennings as our top prospect i think.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injury concerns

Are the only thing holding him back. And perhaps his power ceiling.

by Kevin Gengler on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

have Davis and McGee’s stock dropped at all with their mediocre performances in AA?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

To me, no.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They haven't been mediocre

They just are having some command issues

by Cory Alexander on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis was reigning it in last time I checked.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last three starts his K:BB ratio was near 3.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, he looks like a bad ass.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

K/9

down to 6.56

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll be fine.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

I just wanted to give you a hard time about liking him. I cannot root for any prospect RJ does. You know that.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckham reminds me of Granderson or Reyes at the plate

I see no problem with his swing. He looks like he has fast hands and sees the ball very well. It just looks a little like %those 2. Kind of like he slaps at the ball. But in the limited time Ive seen him it looks like he has a good apprach up there

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont know

you guys could be right, but Im not worried about his swing. He just might end up looking a little unorthodox up there, but my guess is he can hit really well and wont need to change it

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

His floor is Pokey Reese.

I only say this to post this pic.

http://graphics.boston.com/images/sports/redsox/2004/0917_pokey2_1024768.jpg

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pokey Reese

was the best defensive SS in the league, only he couldn’t get on a team without a SS so he had to play 2nd. I’d be disappointed if he turned into Reese, but he certainly wouldn’t be a bust.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

When will we have the chance to draft another high school pitcher?

Im talking 1st round? Maybe next year when we are in the middle of the 1st round and in a good position to take a high ceiling guy. I was just thinking the other day how we havent had the chance to follow a top rated high school pitcher out of the draft.

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Possibly.

That’ll be weird.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

How fast is Beckham

What current player does he compare to in speed? Is he as fast as Crawford?

by rays1234 on Jun 5, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

They said 6.33 60 yards

Not Crawford fast, but that’s moving.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gets tools whores off I guess.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's what they run

in baseball. I don’t know why, they just do.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's cooler though.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong subthread.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler probably does, but he's a lunch break.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched it the other night

Pleasantly surprised. Though is it just me or did every movie made in 2007 have a ridiculously depressing ending?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knocked up didn't have a depressing ending.

Or did it, pending on your point of view

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Superbad

had a happy ending.

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I should have rephrased

Pretty much every Drama of 07 had a sad ending (No Country, There Will Be Blood, The Mist, Sweeney Todd, etc.)

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seen it when it first came out in theatres.

I loved it. My wife hated because of the ending. I love the ending.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually a pet peeve of mine

I hate it when people knock a movie/show because they didn’t get their desired ending.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feeling is

That if the movie got you worked up enough to be pissed about the outcome it did its job

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I am worried people will complain about Losts ending. I love that show

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That show sucked, sucks and will suck.

They had a Polar bear on the freakin’ island. Come on.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch other episodes?

and everyone is titled to an opinion.

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the ending makes the film.

I will bend with certain movies (Do the Right Thing, The Thing) but if you don’t have a good ending one can feel like they just wasted two hours of their time for crap (Example: the NEW Indiana Jones!)

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

There are crappy endings (I Am Legend) for sure. But just because an ending is sad doesn’t make it a bad ending.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree a 100%

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

AAA

Do we have any pitchers or outfielders currently in AAA that are going to play a significant part of our future? I’m not really high on Niemann, especially as a starter. What about Talbot?

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

worse then Niemann

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talbot/Mason/Niemann are bullpen bound.

Fernie might be a reserve.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fernando is Gaithright 2.0

If I were Fernando I would become the world’s best bunter so the Rays HAVE to call me up. That’s the one thing that Rays don’t have, besides Navi, is a good bunter.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's cooler though.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So when we draft ‘Becks’, how long would it take him to get called up all the way to the Rays? He’s only 18 right?

by tampa2time on Jun 5, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll probably go to Princeton and go through the cirtcut

Unless he is a God amongst men, then he goes the express lane towards the majors. I don’t see him spening more then 3 years in the minors. Anyone? Over/Under 3 years.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, ‘cause I was wondering about Bartlett. He’s underrated at SS, good D, good base running, and he’s ok at the bats.
I like JBar, I thought he would be here for a while. Guess not

by tampa2time on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least three more years

or he can be trade bait with Briggy coming up. But, I love how barty plays…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

Im going to watch The Mist after the draft, needed some opinions

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

It's definitely worth the 2 hours

If you don’t like it, chances are you’re not a fan of horror/suspense flicks

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAS ANYONE HERE SEEN SEMI-PRO?

If not? See it for the announcers they remind me very much of Dwayne Staats and Joe Magrane.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

that movie was funny.

Wil’s best sports comedy in my opinion.

The Jive-turkey scene was so funny

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you call me?

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

cocksucker... cocksucker

not a JT

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no,

I think you called me Jive Turkey. We just love to play games don’t we.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think itgenerally takes top rated high school players 3 years

college players more like 2

If they are phenoms you can knock off 1 year

It makes sense for high school players. Its almost like their 1st 2 years are college years and the 3rd year is their minor league seasoning and then hey are 21 and ready to go

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

havent seen semi pro

Im supposed to go out to Largo tonight to see my cousin and we’re goign to watch semi pro and season 3 of Weeds

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

well, the film reminds me of the Rays in some regards...

But definitely the announcers remind me of Dwayne Staats and Joe Magrane.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone seen Strange Wilderness?

HILARIOUS

“I bet those sea lions are glad there’s no lions on the shore right now or they wouldnt know what the F* to do!”

by blazinrayz on Jun 5, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

So if the whole shortstop thing doesn't work out...

I know Beckham will at least have one fall back option:

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It took over an hour and a half until another David Beckham reference.Congratulations.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up a half hour ago...

come one…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pimping ain't easy.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

To honor Carruth

i got the RIGHT tempearttuer
girl to make you ahadfhjkh on
baby i can be the papa nd you be the mom
UH OH!!!!!!!!!!!

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the hell?

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said it once, I will say it again.

I don’t know how pimps do it. One woman drives me nuts sometimes. ... but then again they do have the pimp slap…. long live the pimpslap!

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

long live the pimpslap

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where would...

Where would Beckham go if we weren’t drafting him? 3rd?

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Second probably.

KC was never in on him.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe... I saw somewhere that he might have gone 6th pick

or something something to that accord…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Pittsburgh

was interested in him. Which probably bodes well for us.

by SuperB on Jun 5, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is everyone else not doing right now that they should be?

I’m at work getting nothing done. I hope you guys are still in school so your lack of attention to what you should be doing is no big deal.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I am out of school

and I am playing NES baseball on my comp…..

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am waking up. I have work a little later. Playing with my dogs, having breakfast

Catching up on the news, and doing some things around the house… yada yada yada.

Normally I am at work. I am usually listening to an old Jewish woman complain about rates being to high. I usually zone out to look at RJ’s cock… or the crazy dancing cat…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIDDLER CAT

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry my bad...

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

to get on a quick Pirates rant here...

you know, the pirates have the BEST STADIUM in baseball and they don’t come out to the games… and they give the fans at the Trop shit… WHY!

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is they?

Because if there are indeed Pirates fans giving us crap, I won’t stand for it.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

media, people... amongst others...

my friends in Pittsburg do give us shit though… “our team sucks and we have a reason not to come out… your team is good and no one comes out.”

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's Gem Em Boys!!!

(Smashes Bottle) Who’s with me!!!!

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's such bullshit

Why don’t THEY support THEIR team, hmmm?

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys

So it appears that we’re taking Beckham. Do you think this makes Brignac expendable?

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought he was going to 2nd...

but yeah I see him as being expendable to a point.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he's years away.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely

Beckham is likely a long way away.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does that man have mob ties...

or a rich old woman…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've talked to him

Apparently he runs a business where he drops off storage sheds and then picks them up later (Like thos PODS things). So he is able to make income without putting in too much “work”. I also think he works at the SPT Forum on weekends, which explains why he is often absent on Friday nights.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game on!

Finally

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

LET'S Go Rays...

wait… wrong thread…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

No

It’s cool.
Gotta love all the fans at Disney

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best Sign Ever!

1st pick this year, 30th next year!

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone take a pic if they show Beck in a Rays hat.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Viva the cowbell kid

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Issues...

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is very love or hate

with him

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate what he does during the game

I just don’t like the way he spews nonsense at opponents during BP. That and his self-aggrandizement rubs me the wrong way.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So pretty much...

the Rays fans are the Jets fans of the MLB…

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

rent a crowd?

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year

the whole ray team was there

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Singleton is better at this than baseball.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

That’s just sad

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Tim Beckham, stay the hell away from tattoo parlors and drug dealers

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Better yet

He’s never allowed to go to Bradenton….ever

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even for spring training?

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

No games against Pittsburg

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exceptions

for Spring Training

We do play the Pirates every now and then in ST

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

Bradenton sucks…

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, someone take a pic if they show Beck in Rays garb.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Bud, shut the hell up.

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

seriously...

can he just say Tim Beckham ftw

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get pic, please!

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what's sad

Bud’s opening speech is better than Roger Goodell’s opening speech at the NFL draft

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

omfg

who will they choose??!

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did the Crpyt Keeper HAVE to turn to his right the whole time?

I mean did he know the camera was in front of him?

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm suprised that the LLs didn't show up

You know, for a walkthrough for next year when they take Strasburg….

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Is he going to be better than price?

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s supposedly Price 2.0

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

BP makes me laugh
Bryan Smith (11:16:16 AM PT): There’s a 40% chance Zimmer hears Beckham and actually turns in the name Gordon instead, though. So five minutes of drama it will be!

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

these supplemental picks piss me off

no player lost is worth a first round pick just given away, and there are definitely not 16 players that changed teams last year that are worth that.

by davidsmarch on Jun 5, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't bother me at all

I dont mind forcing teams to overpay for free agents with picks. If anything, it should keep the FA market more reasonable

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's fast Steve

You’re an idiot

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess what

he’s African-American. Thanks for the info

by Albertrayon on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I found that line odd too

I guess it was for the visually impaired?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

LAY DOWN THE LAW

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by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Insight?

On ESPN? Hogwash. They’ll have to shut him up

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why

We only see him during the draft

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe..

He is the future replacement for BJ or Carl?

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Hosmer to KC

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

Josh – Interesting (perhaps only to me) note about Alvarez – He went to my rival high school, though he’s quite a bit younger, and each school was known much more as an academy for the sons of bankers and lawyers to become bankers and lawyers. My senior year I think the best player from his H.S. threw a 68 mph fastball. Obviously he’s a good player but can’t help throwing out that little fact.

by P Brady on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein (11:23:12 AM PT): Here’s the thing. All we’ve talked about is how toolsy Beckham is, and that might have overshadowed just how good a BASEBALL PLAYER he is. He’s not some raw product - he has nice fundamentals and instincts for the game - it will be interest to see how much power comes. Low end, it’s Edgar Renteria kind of power; High end, it’s 20-25 a year.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I notice all the reports mention his plus makeup, like Price and Longoria.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the AFRO

makeup is huge

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing I love about beckham is his quick hand when hitting a baseball

that was the first thing that shot out at me. I really think he going to shoot fast through the lower levels of the minors, but I see him eventually not sticking at shortstop… second, third,... hell… maybe catcher…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet he takes over BJs spot in a few years as BJ gets traded or goes the route of FA. I just don’t see BJ signing.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ is going to sign...

He has some injury history… make a little money, maybe once we start getting some games in October… he’ll want to stay with us… it’s not like we don’t have other outfield options.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so. I’d love to have a Beckham, Brignac middle of the infield.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

Kazmir is in his ear trying to get him to resign

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think the family influence is going to hold him back.

by matthan on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think all of the other young players that have gone off the market

will drive up his value significantly. He will still be at an age where teams can overpay, knowing that at least they are getting some prime years for their money.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Selig really need to read the prompter for every pick?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, he is an idiot

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This phone feature sucks ass

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the Rays Beckham!

Have some fun, make us proud….

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Do good. Do good right now.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meaning sign today, please.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's gonna suck

Waiting around for our pick next year : )

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

LAW!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the phone thing sucks...

FYI Kids: Turn down your TV…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Selig

is an idiot

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The *looks at prompter* first year player draft.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tip to ESPN: just let Callis/Law talk.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fo sho

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb.com = fail

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 5, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Buster, Have fun in hell, I hope the money's worth it.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

?

I guess you are referring to the team, and not the city. Because I cant think of anywhere id rather live as a young millionaire than San Fran.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Team, yes.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aite

Hopefully the next GM doesn’t have his head COMPLETELY buried in the sand…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember, R.J.

This is a DRAFT. Buster doesn’t choose who picks him…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In theory, but making high money demands can limit your destinations.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly

This is what the Red Sox and Yankees of the baseball world count on….

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

But as a general principle

Having high money demands will typically land you on a BETTER team. Just not in this case.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jun 5, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Gammons

SF=fail

Hahahaha, better to convert infielders to catcher(isn’t that what Posey did?)

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the score?

Last I saw, the Stanks we’re winning

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN

Sadly, I’d rather see the Stanks win. I’m starting to believe Toronto will be more of a threat this year…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can live with the Jays in the playoffs.. please no more Yankees.

Of course, the Rays would be nice too.. but the Jays are an acceptable alternative.

5th inning.

Longlorious.

by RATW on Jun 5, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't see the Reds

drafting Yonder.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Especially with

Smoak still on the board.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon Beckham

to CHW

Smoak will be taken by the Nationals

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad to see

I really hope they get competitive. Living in DC it’d be great to goto big league games in that great park.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

Aaron Crow’s the pick

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Just figured that I’d throw this out to our readers, but we’re going to have a special weekly/bi-weekly poster at DRB soon.

Hint: He’s Toolsy and no longer one of our “young pups” after today….

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess fools, guess.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

There goes Castro….

Still don’t know that I’d pick Castro over Smoak….

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

They love Smoak.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greeaaaat

Beane’s job just got easier….

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's going to shoot his wad if he gets him.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's going to shoot his wad if he gets him.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's

very Astro’s like

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

This is why Wade drafted him, I just know it.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone should tell Houston

That drafting players on their ability to rhyme with the team nickname isn’t a good strategy

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting predicament

I know that it’s a long-shot, but what if ….

Tim Melville, Brett Wallace, Cole Gillispie or Aaron Hicks are available in the 2nd Round…

who would you pick?

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Hicks

as a pitcher.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melville is the only

one that will be available though. He’s been really inconsistent this spring

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoak to Rangers

Just what they need, another power bat

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

True

You’d think they’d try to replace Volquez in their system…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Beane take Gillaspie? Wallace?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

SO MANY COMPUTERS IN THAT OAKLAND ROOM

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, rec'd

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Weeks.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Fields/Cashner?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hicks

OF or Pitcher?

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

OF

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a better

pitcher.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon Beckham

Looks like a douche, but I like his swag. He seems like a good ballplayer.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Smoak is Teixeira 2.0?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe

He’s really good

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

college switch hitting power first-baseman.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud Selig makes the greatest facial expression every time he is about to leave the podium

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is the black guy next to steve phillips?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Chris Singleton, former Ray.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohh yea i remember him.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yanks cut it to 7-6

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Beckham to sign quick:

In a perfect world, the Rays would be able to get Tim Beckham integrated into their farm system immediately, a la Evan Longoria a couple of years ago.

They won’t have a deal done that quickly on this one, and it sounds like it will be at least a few days, but they’re optimistic the negotiations won’t stretch all the way to the Aug. 15 deadline as they did with David Price last year. That delay effectively kept Price from participating in minor-league games last summer, which the Rays didn’t really mind because he had thrown so many innings at Vanderbilt.

Beckham is a different case, though. It’s more important for a high school player to get out and acclimated to professional ball, and the Rays believe Beckham playing this summer could be a boon to his professional development and help get him to the majors quicker than if he holds out. Plus, Beckham played in only 36 high school games and innings counts aren’t a concern like they would be for a pitcher.

"Developmentally speaking, to get a high school guy out and playing this year is critical," said Andrew Friedman. "With a college guy, they’ve played a much bigger schedule and in most cases a lot of summer ball as well, so it’s not as important to us. Obviously, you always prefer it, but it wouldn’t be as important to us if we would have taken a college guy if it would have dragged until August.

"In this case, it was refreshing for us to hear how much Tim wanted to get out and play this year and didn’t want this process to run until August. That said, we still have to sit down and find an overlap, but we’re confident we’ll do so."

How quickly might Beckham join the fold?

"I don’t have a great feel for it other than both sides are in agreement that getting him out and playing is in everyone’s best interest," said Friedman. "He really wants to get out there and start playing and we really want to get him out there and start playing. So we’re going to let the process run its course, but we’re hopeful that it won’t be something that will drag on throughout the summer."

Whenever Beckham signs, he likely will begin his pro career at the Rays’ Princeton affiliate, Friedman and R.J. Harrison agreed.

by P Brady on Jun 5, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully he rips through Princeton.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else surprised to see some of the pitchers falling?

Seems like teams are targeting more pos players than pitchers

Protect the Trop: Keep northerners out.

by St Pete Native on Jun 5, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

15 hitters, 3 arms so far.

Bodes well to get a nice arm at 47

by P Brady on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed. I wonder if we'd go for a college closer.

I was a Demel guy big time last year.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd probably go crazy if Perry fell, somehow.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, steve phillips loves bragging that he drafted or signed kazmir, wright and reyes

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Especially since

He wasn’t the guy that traded Kazmir

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

look out landing getting excited?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

They're gonna take another set-up man.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

they trying to imitate omar minaya?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blue Jays brought in a leftty to pitch to ARod

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

They ARE in Seattle.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Home of Starbucks

Nirvana, and Sir Mix-a-lot… they have reasons to be Emo… have you seen the Sonics play… or the seahawks for that mater.

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off subject:

Who is going to win tonight when the Rays play the Red Sox?

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

a lot of faith here… a lot of faith…

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon, man

This is a RAYS blog. Who do you think we’re gonna say?

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way some of you were acting last night....

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, point taken

Last night was just frustrating as hell

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Edwin v. Beckett, come on.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of us did hold out some hope

E-Jax did outduel Wang a couple of weeks ago

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yankees aren't very good though.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but Wang still is

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gameday thread's up I think.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Downs strikes out Matsui

Jays up 7-6 top 8. This is where Joba shut them dow…oh wait…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

damn yankees....

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

They can’t even be useful for us

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud Selig looks like Big Bird

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

is the 2nd round going to be televised?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

who do you think we are targetting in the 2nd round?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Better not be Lance Lynn.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attitude/money/injury issues.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's good.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

schlareth? casey kelly?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Kelly/Collier won't fall that far, if they do we better jump.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

local kid. sarsota

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly pitches too.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know of him.

He’s not dropping by BOS/NYY I wouldn’t think, unless Boston really is enamored with Westmoreland so much that they reach for him.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's stupid.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

still available:

Christian Friedrich, LHP, Eastern Kentucky

Brett Wallace, 3B/1B, Arizona State

Shooter Hunt, RHP, Tulane

casey kelley

schlereth

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

oops not wallace

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Third.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 Deacs!

Great to see a Deac go home in the first round! Go Deacs! My favorite player is off the boards, but I bet he’s stoked to go home.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost no way that'll happen.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well kelly has leverage b/c he’s already comitted to UTK as a QB

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hewitt above Kelly?

Think teams know Kelly is heading to Tenn?

by P Brady on Jun 5, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

players that are pitchers/position players worry me for some reason

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing...

Anyone remember when that genius Buck Martinez called him “the definition of protection” during the WBC.

What a loser.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The great “Vinny Cash-stealer” sitting at the rockies table

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Now the Rockies are mocking us

by bringing Castilla. Fuck Vinny Castilla and fuck the Rockies

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

omg KG answered my question!

Kevin Goldstein (1:30:22 PM PT): Peter (Tampa): With all the players going above Casey Kelly, think he’s going to Tennessee?

Not necessarily. Remeber that slots are just a recommendation. You can take Casey Kelly and give him the money he needs if you want to—just know that MLB is gonna to call your scouting director, general manager and owner and call you all “doo-doo heads” or something before you can go over slot. So it’s no sure thing, even though he is dropping.

by P Brady on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Tanner Scheppers still availble

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

the syndrome is getting squeezed by this ump

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

WRONG HAT

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I got it

I can’t get over the fact that our #1 draft pick is wearing the OLD cap.

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fwan?

Tools Whore

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that? brazzy?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beck

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

damon has a porno mustache and wilkerson just made a game-saving catch

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

they are gonna fine him before he even sign him

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

ooh i forgot about all the supplementials

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

yanks love scott boras

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: 8-6 Jays, Top 9

Men on 2nd and 3rd. Wow, the Yankees can’t even be useful…

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully not.

It’s cool that the draft is on TV, but honestly, I liked it better as a MLB.com production where picks would fly by every two minutes. No commercials, no breaks, we’d be through at least a handful of rounds by now.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Will Leitch is no longer the Deadspin editor

And they’re looking for applicants. Tempting.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t have near the talent of Leitch, but I guess it wouldn’t hurt to at least throw my nickel into the well.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just want to get rid of me.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there goes kelly

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid ESPN

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

giambi walkoff

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Not the worst thing in the world

Blue Jays are more of a threat to us right now

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm? jays lost

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But from our point of view, Toronto is more of a threat to us than the Yankees are

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really believe that?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Toronto RIGHT NOW is more of a threat

If the Yankees get it together and somehow fix their pitching, than they’ll become the bigger threat.

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta agree with JMB

Remember, the Yankees took our their best reliever and made him a starter

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

jeter / matsui / arod / giambi / possada / damon / cano can mash

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

even if they have casey fossum pitching

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um,

Fossum pitches for Detroit

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know but he’s no worse than the shlop in the yanks pen

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s a fine leadoff hitter.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you said "mash"

Mash means hit for power, which isn’t Damon….

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who can Rays take with next pick?

I just got back

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by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Melville

was inconsistent this spring. His velocity was up and down and he wants 2 million. I’m not sure he’s the guy the Rays want.

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please no Lynn.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

A talent

With Beckham being our #1, a buttload of relievers going already and some of the unusual reaches…

we’ll probably do better than our Kline pick

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Probably"? : (

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's funny...

I live in IL and I have no idea where Highland, IL is.

Though I know where Highland Park is

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOO I WANTED HOLT

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know if I want him.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAH

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

STFU Ravech.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I liked Ravech's "an African American" comment right after Tim Beckham's pick.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF are they even doing?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're going Weatherford

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

YES! NO KLINE 2.0 FOR US!

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Westmoreland

Please, please, please, please fork over the money.

by rglass44 on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

The Sox love Westmoreland, if he gets past us he'll go there.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs pick the player I want, I will

1. Buy a goat
2. Bring it to Wrigley
3. Get kicked out
4. Put another curse on the Cubs

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Not my player I want

But I may want to put a curse on them anyways.

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh we're so gonna have a shot at the toolsy OFers

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

He's so flustered he can barely type on AIM

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I just awakened from a mid draft nap.

Tools Whore

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are those happy tissues or sad tissues?

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BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wade Miley???

Insert Miley Cyrus joke…

“He’s just being Miley”

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Westmoreland to Sox I bet

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

THANK GOD

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're up

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

6:15?

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

45 minute break?

Are you freakin kidding me. That’s absurd

Tools Whore

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Sign Beckham during the break.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even sure

Friedman can do that, though this is the team that mentioned a deal in the works with Kazmir and within 30 minutes of Stu’s interview, he signed Kazmir.

by Jacob Larsen on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then dear Friedman,

Do better, do better right now.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Longoria

signed by the 3rd round, and this was without silly breaks.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

They don’t need a 45 minute break. All the more reason to knock it out early

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

coverage continues till 6....

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forsythe to Padres

ON THE CLOCK: TAMPA BAY RAYS

by JMB on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

didn’t they sign longoria during the break?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

No

There was no break that year, there were no breaks as there was no TV. They signed him during the draft because he accepted slot.

Tools Whore

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by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Carroll (2:32:37 PM PT): Just hearing that Buster Posey is standing on that insane number and that while he said all the right things, his “advisors” are saying he’s perfectly willing to stay in Tallahassee if he doesn’t get eight figures.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man i hope he comes back to FSU.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Destin Hood

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Strong like Bull

He benches 320 and squats 405

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone got a report on westmoreland?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

so 2nd round is gonna be televised

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

No

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what is going on second pick

are we still on a break?

In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!

by thebaddancingraysfan on Jun 5, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

Until 6:15

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do we watch/hear

the pick?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

weak.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jun 5, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

should we all move and continue the discussion on the game day thread?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Discuss the game there, I'll make a new post for the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th round picks.

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So around 6:20 new day one draft thread

"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

2 minutes

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jun 5, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle Lobstein

LHP from AZ High School

www.citadel-insurance.com

by SeanDubbs on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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