6/5: 2008 MLB Draft
by Patrick L. Kennedy
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As you all know, the Rays have the No. 1 overall selection in today's MLB draft for the second year in a row, and they will take Georgia High School SS Tim Beckham with the No. 1 overall pick. Here is some information on Beckham:
via bp2.blogger.com
From Baseball Prospectus' preview of the Top 50 talents:
1. Tim Beckham, SS, Griffin HS (GA)
What He Is: That up-the-middle player who offers the best combination of tools and potential in the draft.
What He’s Not: A guy who grades out as well as the Upton brothers did, so let’s end those comps here and now.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: An All-Star shortstop who hits 20 home runs, steals 40 bases, and plays above-average defense
Backup Plan: Center field
Open Issues: Arguments remain over his ability to stay at shortstop--the athleticism is there, but his fundamentals are shaky--and ultimate power ceiling.
From Baseball America's profile (Sub only):
Beckham solidified his status as the nation's top high school position player last year when he produced the most impressive overall performance on the summer showcase circuit. He was consistently the best player at each event he attended and capped his performance by winning MVP honors at the Aflac Classic at the end of the summer. A wiry, athletic shortstop, Beckham hasn't produced eye-popping performances this spring, but his track record and projection make him the nation's most coveted high school prospect. He has five legitimate tools. At the plate he has the ability to be an above-average hitter with average power. He's a solid runner and his athleticism is a part of his everyday game. In the field, Beckham has smooth major league actions with an above-average arm. He has drawn comparisons to the Upton brothers, though he has more aptitude in the field and not quite the lightning in the bat. His makeup is a plus, as he displays an enjoyment of the game and energy on the field. He has a commitment to Southern California, but Beckham won't reach campus as he's a likely top 10 pick.
From BrewerFan.net's profile:
Beckham is the type of athlete that makes everything he does look easy. He glides to balls hit deep in the hole to either side of him, and runs the bases gracefully, stretching singles into doubles and doubles into triples. He has good arm strength, soft hands and good instincts that should allow him to star at shortstop for years to come. While his defense draws more raves that his bat, he has improved at the plate over the last year and is now considered a legitimate threat, as he stings the ball to all parts of the field and has also shown the ability to hit the ball out as his body continues to mature and add strength.
From SaberScouting's Bio:
Bio: 6′0, 188, Bats R, Throws R, 18 years old
The Skinny: Beckham has been coming on hard toward the top spot since the pre-season high school showcases, where he was wowing scouts at each stop. Beckham flashed elite glovework that will play at short in the big leagues, an advanced bat, and the athleticism, makeup, and aptitude to project across the board. Some question his power projection and prefer surer bets from the college ranks. On the other hand, there’s a chance for 5 plus tools and a team willing to take some risk has a good chance at having a future star at the most premium position. Beckham’s the favorite to go #1 to Tampa Bay.
Pros: Athleticism, Glove, Bat
Cons: Power, Distance from MLB
Comparison: Edgar Renteria with more power
MiLB.com has a profile of Beckham along with all of the other top draft candidates, and their page has video as well. Their take on Beckham:
A bonafide five-tool player at a premium position, there's a reason why Beckham is at or near the top of Draft lists everywhere. He's got tools galore, with some idea of how to use them. He'll need to iron out some things mechanically and fundamentally, but he's got the ability and potential to hit, hit for power, steal bases and stay at shortstop at the big-league level.
From his Perfect Game profile:
Tim Beckham is a 2008 SS with a 6'2'', 191 lb. frame from Kennesaw, GA who attends Griffin HS. Strong athletic build. Top level athlete, extremely fast (6.33) with fast twitch actions. Electric hands with bat, explosive quickness, ball jumps hard, simple hitting approach, sees the ball and attacks it, power to all fields. Fluid defensive actions, has some flash, can make all the plays. Elite level athlete with baseball skills.
And here are Beckham's statistics:
.500/.782/.795
AB: 78
Runs: 40
Hits: 39
Doubles: 9
Triples: 3
HR: 5
Total bases: 62
Walks: 22
Strikeouts: 5
Sacrifice flies: 4
Stolen bases: 16
RBI: 31
Some other good Beckham-related links:
Baseball Digest Daily (includes swing analysis to B.J. Upton)
AP Report on Beckham's basketball love
Credit (and blame, should the need arise) goes to R.J. for the research.
Lastly, we wouldn't want to forget the other four rounds in which the Rays are drafting today. This link will take you to the complete order of the draft, with supplemental rounds and all, but to be succinct, here are the Rays' other selections today:
Round 2 (47th Overall)
Round 3 (78th Overall)
Round 4 (113th Overall)
Round 5 (143rd Overall)
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This is going to be overused.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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If he reaches the bigs
Which is still a big crapshoot.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 12:49 PM EDT
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If?
Don’t do this to me.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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I'm not convinced he will hit
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 12:52 PM EDT
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Don't do this to me.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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Beckham will hit
He isn’t Matt Bush. Once he implements his lower body into his swing more, he’ll be set to go. His bat speed is awesome, which is the most important thing.
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by killa3312 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:56 PM EDT
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Let's hope you are right
Myself, I still prefer the old boring, battle-tested college hitter.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 12:58 PM EDT
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Those guys aren't any fun
Tools and lack of ceilings are so much more exciting.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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True
I’ve grown tired of Longboringa myself :)
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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David Price uses vasoline to make his balls move nowadays.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
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Actions - recommend post
After 3 recs the post turns green.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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He'll hit
Matt Bush he is not
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:56 PM EDT
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You're just failing all over the place today
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by killa3312 on
Jun 5, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
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Very in depth thread Patrick.
I’m more interested who we get in the next 4 rounds.
by Cory Alexander on
Jun 5, 2008 12:05 PM EDT
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"Credit (and blame, should the need arise) goes to R.J. for the research."
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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You should have posted it
Pat does nothing and gets the credit. Brilliant!
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT
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It's fine.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
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Screw You
I actually did real Original Reporting™ today.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Jun 5, 2008 5:03 PM EDT
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You got free food, didn't you?
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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Actually, yes
Snack spreads ftw
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM EDT
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While you don't draft for need in round 1?
Don’t you think we should draft a catcher in round 2?
I personally wouldn’t mind, though, if we drafted Kyle Long(Howie’s kid) in Round 2, if available.
by Jacob Larsen on
Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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Kyle Long
Is a FIRM and I mean Firm commitment to FSU. He’s not going pro. I’d love to draft him, but he’s completely unsignable.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
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Tons of players have been called "completely unsignable"
and money usually makes that null and void.
by Jacob Larsen on
Jun 5, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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His family has plenty
of $$$$$. And his fastball sits in the upper-80’s touching 95 at times. He’s also a raw power hitting firstbaseman. Not the type of can’t miss prospect you want to go throwing millions at to keep him away from college. It would take top of the first round money to sign him and he’s not worth that.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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what would the 300lb kid do in a baseball uniform?
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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i'm pretty sure Long weighed in at 290 coming out of HS
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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Great athlete though
Was a 5star OL recruit before he decided that he didn’t want to play football.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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is he not playing football?
and he was a 3-star prospect.
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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No
he signed a LOI for baseball which means he can’t play football. If you’re going to play 2 sports you have to be on scholarship with the sport that has more. This is in response to Miami putting football players on Track Scholarships to get extra guys on the team.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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dude better lose some weight
FSU baseball is looking good for the next few years.
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Dammit!
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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Navvy is about 210 buddy
though Fielder is about 270, so that’s comparable…
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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Prince Fielder does fine.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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thank god for the draft thread,
moron brother in the other thread is giving me a headache.
Rule #1 of Draft Thread: Do Not Talk about Changing Players Positions
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
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I'd rather not have that leak over.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:09 PM EDT
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He better.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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No Lance Lynn please.
Brad Holt/Allan Dykstra/Ryan Westmoreland all interesting.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
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Tools Tools Tools Tools Tools
That what I want out of rounds 2-5. We got 5 of them in round 1. That makes me happy.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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Patrick's heading to the presser @ 2:15.
I assume via bike, which is hilarious.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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That is High comedy
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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Make sure you take the tassles off the bike
Unless they are Rays blue…
by Jacob Larsen on
Jun 5, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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They let high school kids that ride bikes in at pressers?
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by killa3312 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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In fairness, he's not really a high school kid.
Add 40 years to his age and you’re just about right.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
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Where the hell have I been?
I always assumed Patrick was 17 years old :-)
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by killa3312 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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You're actually giving him a year.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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Stop playing with my head GDI
:-)
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by killa3312 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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Actually
I rode the bus from Clearwater. I left at noon and got to the Trop at 2. I’m guessing that riding my bike would have been a quicker alternative.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on
Jun 5, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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What do you guys think about Scott Green from UK in the 3rd?
by P Brady on
Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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I'm most interested in seeing if any
“1st round talents” slip, Tanner Schleppers or whatever his name is, to round 2.
by Jacob Larsen on
Jun 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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Scheppers
that could be a nice pick in the 2nd round.
by davidsmarch on
Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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Summary: Green turned down a large bonus offer a year ago when the Red Sox drafted him in the 15th round, hoping he’d have a strong junior season and vault himself into the first round. Whether he sees that kind of money again remains to be seen, but his performance, one that’s seen him taken from the rotation and nearly buried in the bullpen at Kentucky, doesn’t point to a guy who’s going to go early. That being said, his size and arm strength will still be enough to intrigue someone to take a chance.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=green
I’m weary.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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Was R.J Harrison the head scout under Lamar also?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Jun 5, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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Tim Wilken
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
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He's a heck of a
scouting director too
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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Chicago.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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i know you didn’t like Lamar (for obvious reasons), but Wilken did a decent job with the drafts, no?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
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I don't dislike LaMar.
Drafting was the one thing he was really good at, pushy owner and yes men were his downfall.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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Specifically
him being a yes man to the owner.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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been gone for a while now.. left for the Cubs after 2005
Longlorious.
by RATW on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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Rays scouting directors: Dan Jennings, Cam Bonifay, Tim Wilken (04-05), RJ Harrison (06-current)
Correct?
Longlorious.
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Jun 5, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
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Seems right.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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Trades
They need to start allowing trades IMO.
by matthan on
Jun 5, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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Beckham
When is his projected ETA? ’ 11? ‘12?
by matthan on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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I'd say 2012, we'll see.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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hopeful timetable?
2008 – New york pen league if signed soon
2009 – low a
2010 – high a
2011 – double a
2012 – begin AAA to majors
9 = 8
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Jun 5, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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He'll be promoted on an as earned basis
He’ll most certainly be in Columbus in 09’. It depends on how he does there where he goes next. He could skip High-A if he dominates like you’d expect a #1 pick to do. We’ll see.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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HV vs. Princeton
I know conventional wisdom has him going to Hudson Valley, but I’d actually like to see him start out in Princeton. If he absolutely rakes there for a month then promote him.
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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I like challenging prospects
HV might actually be a tougher place to hit than Columbus. Adjusting for talent level, it’s just brutal on hitters.
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by Tyler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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Anthony Hewitt is my wet dream in the second round
Who draws BO comparisons? Freakin unreal…
by rglass44 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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He'll be gone probably
But my god, that dude’s got a toolbox.
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
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Don't let Tyler know...
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
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Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
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And Tyler is now firmly gripping his tool...
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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today is a dream for Tyler
all this talk of tools and such
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
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Jun 5, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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He just needs Dickey time, furries, and a B.J. encounter and his day will be complete
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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a furry dickey b.j.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on
Jun 5, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
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A furry BJ encounter nicknamed Dickey time.
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
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Another toolsy guy I wouldn't mind is...
Destin Hood
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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go to baseballamerica.com
John Manuel has some even fresher draft dope on the Draft Blog.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
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Jun 5, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=288
I just posted it cuz it said “draft dope” which made me roflongoria thinking of Kaz. Look it even has the title draft dope. lol
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on
Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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Remember, kids
Draft Dope is only illegal if you intend to sell it!
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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Numerous players turned down Major League Baseball’s invitation to come to the Milk House at Disney and be part of the show on site, with only Aaron Hicks, the prep righthander and outfielder from Long Beach, appearing live.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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Ouch.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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Hicks must be like, where is everyone?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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or “i’m here for the gangbang”
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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Guys? .... Guys?
At least he gets the buffet table to himself.
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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Not if John Kruk is around.
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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Thank god I get to watch Cheap Seats before the draft starts.
by P Brady on
Jun 5, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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is it the jose oquendo episode?
9 = 8
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Jun 5, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
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Funny Sklar bros story...
My friend went to the AS game in HOU a couple of years ago. As he was walking around before the game he passed by one of them and did a slight double-take. Mind you he didn’t say or really do anything, but just had this slight hint of recognition. Sklar Bro gives him this douchey “Yeah, you know who I am” head-nod. The best part, is that he could tell that noone else knew or cared who the hell the nerdy looking guy was.
by rglass44 on
Jun 5, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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I just hope ESPN doesn't spoil every pick 10 seconds before Selig
announces it. That completely ruined the NFL Draft IMO.
by Kevin Gengler on
Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
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"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
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Déjà vu?
In A Perfect World He Becomes: An All-Star shortstop who hits 20 home runs, steals 40 bases, and plays above-average defense
Backup Plan: Center field
Isn’t this exactly what happened with B.J. Upton?
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
by Orlando Rays on
Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
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Kinda.
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Best hitter on the team.
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yea sounds like they just copied and pasted Beej’s scouting report
9 = 8
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BJ's scouting report is better
More batspeed. 30+ homerun power potential. Better arm.
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the man knows his tools
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Prospect list:
1. David Price
2. Wade Davis
3. Tim Beckham
4. Jake McGee
5. Jeremy Hellickson
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really, jumps right up to 3?
even with no pro exposure?
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Ceilings play into affect.
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Price was 2nd
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Longoria was first, he's graduated though.
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I never had Desmond that high.
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I had him around 10th, but some were putting him on top 100 lists in the 15 range.
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Just wondering
where would Posey and Alvarez be if we had taken them?
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Third, maybe second.
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Our pitchers are great, but this is yet another reason why we better be targeting positional talent this year(barring a top pitcher dropping that we can sign).
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DAMN thats good
Then you got Jennings, Brignac, Niemann, Talbot, (insert a prospect)
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beckham’s ceiling is higher than desmond jennings?
9 = 8
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Yes, and hes playing at a premium position
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Centerfield is a premium position
Although DJ is more likely to move than Becks.
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Rays Scouting Director history
I had to find out..
http://www.baseballamerica.com/execdb/?show=franchise&fid=tb#sd
Dan Jennings (1996-2002)
Cam Bonifay (2003-2004)
Tim Wilken (2005)
RJ Harrison (2006-2008)
Longlorious.
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You were right, nicely done.
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A lot of scouting services really love DJ
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Yea, Keith Law has Jennings as our top prospect i think.
9 = 8
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Injury concerns
Are the only thing holding him back. And perhaps his power ceiling.
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have Davis and McGee’s stock dropped at all with their mediocre performances in AA?
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To me, no.
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They haven't been mediocre
They just are having some command issues
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Davis was reigning it in last time I checked.
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9) Wade Davis, RHP, Tampa Bay Rays: 3.39 ERA with 43/24 K/BBin 58 innings in Double-A. Like McGee, command hasn't quite been there.
As of May 29th
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Last three starts his K:BB ratio was near 3.
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Also, he looks like a bad ass.
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K/9
down to 6.56
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He'll be fine.
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Beckham reminds me of Granderson or Reyes at the plate
I see no problem with his swing. He looks like he has fast hands and sees the ball very well. It just looks a little like %those 2. Kind of like he slaps at the ball. But in the limited time Ive seen him it looks like he has a good apprach up there
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He doesn't put his lower body into, just kinda slaps it.
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Coaches need to fix that. At least he has bat speed.
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Toby Hall likes it just the way it is.
Longlorious.
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Apparently Posey may fall to the Spanks or Sucks.
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No...
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Well, at least it helps me properly align my alleigances
Yankeees, Sox, Noles, and Colts Suck
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I dont know
you guys could be right, but Im not worried about his swing. He just might end up looking a little unorthodox up there, but my guess is he can hit really well and wont need to change it
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His floor is Pokey Reese.
I only say this to post this pic.
http://graphics.boston.com/images/sports/redsox/2004/0917_pokey2_1024768.jpg
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Pokey Reese
was the best defensive SS in the league, only he couldn’t get on a team without a SS so he had to play 2nd. I’d be disappointed if he turned into Reese, but he certainly wouldn’t be a bust.
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When will we have the chance to draft another high school pitcher?
Im talking 1st round? Maybe next year when we are in the middle of the 1st round and in a good position to take a high ceiling guy. I was just thinking the other day how we havent had the chance to follow a top rated high school pitcher out of the draft.
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Possibly.
That’ll be weird.
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Yeah, it's been a while since Matt White, Bobby Seay and Jason Standridge
Longlorious.
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How fast is Beckham
What current player does he compare to in speed? Is he as fast as Crawford?
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They said 6.33 60 yards
Not Crawford fast, but that’s moving.
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Why do the run the 60 yard dash?
Makes no sense in baseball.
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Gets tools whores off I guess.
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it's what they run
in baseball. I don’t know why, they just do.
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He's cooler though.
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Wrong subthread.
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Anyone know Crawfords 60?
just curious
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Tyler probably does, but he's a lunch break.
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Just watched it the other night
Pleasantly surprised. Though is it just me or did every movie made in 2007 have a ridiculously depressing ending?
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Knocked up didn't have a depressing ending.
Or did it, pending on your point of view
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Superbad
had a happy ending.
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Guess I should have rephrased
Pretty much every Drama of 07 had a sad ending (No Country, There Will Be Blood, The Mist, Sweeney Todd, etc.)
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Seen it when it first came out in theatres.
I loved it. My wife hated because of the ending. I love the ending.
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That's actually a pet peeve of mine
I hate it when people knock a movie/show because they didn’t get their desired ending.
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My feeling is
That if the movie got you worked up enough to be pissed about the outcome it did its job
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Agree
I am worried people will complain about Losts ending. I love that show
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That show sucked, sucks and will suck.
They had a Polar bear on the freakin’ island. Come on.
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Did you watch other episodes?
and everyone is titled to an opinion.
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Well, the ending makes the film.
I will bend with certain movies (Do the Right Thing, The Thing) but if you don’t have a good ending one can feel like they just wasted two hours of their time for crap (Example: the NEW Indiana Jones!)
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Yeah
There are crappy endings (I Am Legend) for sure. But just because an ending is sad doesn’t make it a bad ending.
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I agree a 100%
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As if this thread wasn't busy enough...
blazin has to Joel Siegel on us.
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AAA
Do we have any pitchers or outfielders currently in AAA that are going to play a significant part of our future? I’m not really high on Niemann, especially as a starter. What about Talbot?
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worse then Niemann
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Talbot/Mason/Niemann are bullpen bound.
Fernie might be a reserve.
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Fernando is Gaithright 2.0
If I were Fernando I would become the world’s best bunter so the Rays HAVE to call me up. That’s the one thing that Rays don’t have, besides Navi, is a good bunter.
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He's cooler though.
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and a hell of a writer.
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So when we draft ‘Becks’, how long would it take him to get called up all the way to the Rays? He’s only 18 right?
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He'll probably go to Princeton and go through the cirtcut
Unless he is a God amongst men, then he goes the express lane towards the majors. I don’t see him spening more then 3 years in the minors. Anyone? Over/Under 3 years.
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Ok, ‘cause I was wondering about Bartlett. He’s underrated at SS, good D, good base running, and he’s ok at the bats.
I like JBar, I thought he would be here for a while. Guess not
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at least three more years
or he can be trade bait with Briggy coming up. But, I love how barty plays…
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sorry
Im going to watch The Mist after the draft, needed some opinions
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It's definitely worth the 2 hours
If you don’t like it, chances are you’re not a fan of horror/suspense flicks
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HAS ANYONE HERE SEEN SEMI-PRO?
If not? See it for the announcers they remind me very much of Dwayne Staats and Joe Magrane.
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that movie was funny.
Wil’s best sports comedy in my opinion.
The Jive-turkey scene was so funny
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What you call me?
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cocksucker... cocksucker
not a JT
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No, no,
I think you called me Jive Turkey. We just love to play games don’t we.
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I know you slept with Mrs. Pepperfield
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I think itgenerally takes top rated high school players 3 years
college players more like 2
If they are phenoms you can knock off 1 year
It makes sense for high school players. Its almost like their 1st 2 years are college years and the 3rd year is their minor league seasoning and then hey are 21 and ready to go
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havent seen semi pro
Im supposed to go out to Largo tonight to see my cousin and we’re goign to watch semi pro and season 3 of Weeds
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I Think Weeds is one of the best shows on TV today
Though I worry that season 4 will lay an egg.
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well, the film reminds me of the Rays in some regards...
But definitely the announcers remind me of Dwayne Staats and Joe Magrane.
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has anyone seen Strange Wilderness?
HILARIOUS
“I bet those sea lions are glad there’s no lions on the shore right now or they wouldnt know what the F* to do!”
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I'm a big fan of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
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I love Dirt.
but Always Sunny is pretty funny.
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So if the whole shortstop thing doesn't work out...
I know Beckham will at least have one fall back option:
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It took over an hour and a half until another David Beckham reference.Congratulations.
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I woke up a half hour ago...
come one…
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wait until the coffee kicks in...
mofos!
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Pimping ain't easy.
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To honor Carruth
i got the RIGHT tempearttuer
girl to make you ahadfhjkh on
baby i can be the papa nd you be the mom
UH OH!!!!!!!!!!!
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by R.J. Anderson on
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the hell?
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I said it once, I will say it again.
I don’t know how pimps do it. One woman drives me nuts sometimes. ... but then again they do have the pimp slap…. long live the pimpslap!
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long live the pimpslap
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Where would...
Where would Beckham go if we weren’t drafting him? 3rd?
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Second probably.
KC was never in on him.
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maybe... I saw somewhere that he might have gone 6th pick
or something something to that accord…
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I don't think Pittsburgh
was interested in him. Which probably bodes well for us.
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I think that's where he is going...
Phillies (growls)
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Yeah
The Buccos really like him. I’d be shocked if they didn’t pick him.
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They need somebody after X Nady calls it quits...
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What is everyone else not doing right now that they should be?
I’m at work getting nothing done. I hope you guys are still in school so your lack of attention to what you should be doing is no big deal.
by rglass44 on
Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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I am out of school
and I am playing NES baseball on my comp…..
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on
Jun 5, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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I am waking up. I have work a little later. Playing with my dogs, having breakfast
Catching up on the news, and doing some things around the house… yada yada yada.
Normally I am at work. I am usually listening to an old Jewish woman complain about rates being to high. I usually zone out to look at RJ’s cock… or the crazy dancing cat…
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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FIDDLER CAT
"I've seen many, many blue skies turn gray, but the sun will eventually return, and so will I. So will I." - Carlos Pena
by R.J. Anderson on
Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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sorry my bad...
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Jun 5, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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to get on a quick Pirates rant here...
you know, the pirates have the BEST STADIUM in baseball and they don’t come out to the games… and they give the fans at the Trop shit… WHY!
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Jun 5, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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Who is they?
Because if there are indeed Pirates fans giving us crap, I won’t stand for it.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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media, people... amongst others...
my friends in Pittsburg do give us shit though… “our team sucks and we have a reason not to come out… your team is good and no one comes out.”
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on
Jun 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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Let's Gem Em Boys!!!
(Smashes Bottle) Who’s with me!!!!
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jun 5, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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That's such bullshit
Why don’t THEY support THEIR team, hmmm?
by JMB on
Jun 5, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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Hey guys
So it appears that we’re taking Beckham. Do you think this makes Brignac expendable?
by JMB on
Jun 5, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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I thought he was going to 2nd...
but yeah I see him as being expendable to a point.
In the name of Sinji Mori, we shall win!