Street/Murton? Probably Not...
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:15 PM EDT
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PrintYes, I'm totally piggybacking off of this fanshot because I haven't been around for the last 12 or so hours, but as you can imagine the idea of landing Huston Street and Matt Murton in one deal very soon excites me very, very much.
Those two make a ton of sense for the Rays, and let me just list my points here:
1) Huston freaking Street! Relief ace, 24 years old, two more years under team control. His name is Huston Street! Frankly I may giggle from excitement if we do land him for quite a while.
2) I really, really, really like Huston Street.
3) Murton makes a ton of sense.
4) STREET!
5) The idea of this deal makes too much sense.
6) HUSTON STREET!
That is all until we find out more.
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I think the Rays Organization is undervaluing Niemann...
2 years of some MLB time….guy will be a top 3 starter for most teams
Mound Visit
Maybe
But wouldn’t you be happy to get Street/Murton at that cost?
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno....
I watched the Cardinal’s trade away Harren for Mark Mulder….look how that worked out for everybody
A’s have always left a bad taste in my mouth after that.
Mound Visit
HIS ENTRANCE MUSIC MIGHT BE NAS HATE ME NOW
I WILL HAVE TO CHANGE PANTS.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT HE WON'T STOP NOW
CUZ HE CAN’T STOP NOW
YOU CAN HATE HIM NOW
YOU CAN HATE HIM NOW
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You wanna hate me I'm gonna hate you too
DIE MOTHER FUCKER
DIE MOTHER FUCKER
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Jul 11, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Also that >
A milli a milli a milli a milli a milli a milli a milli
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Which he ripped off of
Three 6 Mafia
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope it happens
and it looks as if we wouldnt have to sell the farm considering what the A’s got for Harden
Blake
USF--Class of '09
Street sure, Murton, why?
He hits 60% of his balls in play on the ground and has 15 XBH in 231 at bats this year. That is not going to help produce any runs. The best thing I can say about him is that he makes a lot of contact but he’d have to hit 7th or 8th in the lineup because he’d be a double play machine if he hit up in the 2 hole where most high contact hitters live.
What stats are you looking at?
Mine show only 40 AB’s for Murton this year
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
combine AAA and Maj
fangraphs.com
you can go to minorleaguesplits.com to get G/L/F for his work in AAA. 109 GB out of 169 total balls in play
by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Minor league #'s?
If so, I’ll put more stock in what he’s shown at the major league level. Lou Pinella did a really good job at making Upton look like a scrub as well…Don’t discount the ‘messsin with the head’ factor here.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
In 870 major league at bats
56% GB rate. Unless you are a speedy, those are not good numbers for a corner outfielder position. They’re Delmon Young like – which is why he was below replacement level last year.
If Murton were here, he’d be hitting out of the 8 hole platooning with Gross/Hinske in RF.
by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is what the Rays are likely targeting
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on his l/r splits
Against lefties, he’s Delmon Young with a higher average and more power (about .80 points of OPS higher)
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He has always been a GB hitter
2006 – 455 major league at bats – 56% GB; 2.4 G/F
2007 – 235 major league at bats – 47% GB, 1.2 G/F – and still slugged lower than he did in 2006.
Murton has always made solid contact and has been double digit walk rate for his career. Something in his approach has always generated more grounders than flyballs and because he isn’t fast enough to take advantage of it, it has resulted in a rather pedestrian major league career when given the chance.
by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a bat, not an arm
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
Street >>> Fuentes, Others
I like Fuentes, but given a bullpen that already has depth, a lights-out ace is much more valuable than another 3.75 ERA guy.
What’s the outlook on Street’s health?
Is the consensus that Murton is still an above-average corner outfielder?
Has anyone seen anything of this rumor
Confirmed in print (Not counting this site)?
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
I'll try and get confirmation
But didn’t someone say Olney confirmed it?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Link? I just emailed Blez asking if he saw/heard it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, you're correct though
When a deal is about to go down Friedman is usually on the phone non-stop. The guy works some crazy hours too.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cartman: Butters, do you think 9/11 was just a plot by some angry terrorists, or do you think there was some kind of coverup?
Butters: Well, I heard that 9/11 was caused by President Bush.
Cartman: Aha! Do you see?
Kyle: Where did you hear that??
Butters: [points] From Eric.
Cartman: I rest my case.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the day we were going to deal Delmon to the Twins.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What do we think Hinske will do the rest of the way?
.262/.354/.520 first half, which seems to be backed up by the batted ball numbers. But he’s never had an OPS+ above 120 before and owns a career 101 OPS+. Murton’s better than Hinske’s 2008 projection (and can play defense), but if Hinske has made real changes, he deserves the at-bats.
Best case scenario might be to acquire Murton with Street and flip Hinske.
I think that's what they'll attempt to do.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd better not flip Hinske to the A's
Lord only knows where he would eventually land
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If you think this is turning me off of him in a Rays uni
You are sincerely mistaken.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Everytime he saves a game we're using that pic.
Maybe photoshop a corny phrase in, like “SAVING GAMES, UNDERCOVER”
why again is anyone excited about Murton?
he was never that amazing in the minors, and thoroughly dissapointed in his ML stint this year. why is he in any way an upgrade over anything we’ve got/could easily get?
how does he make sense?
if make sense=can play outfield, then yes he makes sense. but there are much better options out there. hell, baldelli is probably a better option.
Ted Williams is a better option
But he’s not going to step on the field, either.
Murton hits lefties, has a better pre-2008 offensive track record, and plays better defense. Those are the pluses. I agree they aren’t huge.
so combine Murton and Gross and we have one very complete player?
is that what we’re going for? no thanks.
nothing against the platoon, but if we’re trading for a RF, i’d rather he be an every day player.
Trading for a platoon player..
That does his job well, combined with another platoon player that does his job well…well, you dont have to give up as much in a trade, and in the end, get similar value.
Where is Bobr when you need him?
If this trade goes through, I’d love to hear his $.02.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing BobR has some sort of current/past baseball affiliation...
Whether as a scout or something else, dude knows what he is talking about. He is one of the reasons I joined this site. Just one, RJ…Just one…
He has a good feel for baseball...
And he is very well written
Stalk much?
I actually was going to reply with that.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would win an argument..
Will Hunting(Matt Damon) or BobR on the evolution of the market economy in the Southern colonies. How do you like them apples.
I only joined the site because of Bob.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I was pissed when he was only up for a couple days...
Didnt get a chance to see him…good dude.
RJ...
How’s this for a college infield. Cannizaro at SS, Utley at 2nd, and Garret Atkins at 1B. We had a solid squad.
That seems like a solid defense behind you.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
And Dane Sardinha catching. He’s not much now, but was a stud in college. Yeah, decent team.
Did you face Ryan Howard in the minors?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No...
Unfortunately not. My minor league career crapped out quickly with shoulder problems. In fact, I probably played with better player in the Cape Cod League then in the early level of pro ball.
Ah, I didn't know that.
But yeah, there didn’t appear to be that much talent on your team.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to sound racist...
But there were 2 mammoth black dudes that were both Lefties in the League. I remember one was with the Pirates and I am blanking on his name. He dropped bombs as well.
Okay...
This is weird. I remember Howard now. And I rememebr playing at Batavia. But for some reason I dont remember if I pitched in those games.
I think the brain tries blocking painful memories
Howard had to be a beast back then.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And disregard my stats from that season..
There is a legitimate excuse, haha.
Haha...
It was brutal. The Marlins said the catchers werent allowed to spot up, and had to set up over the middle EVERY pitch. Totally messed me up because I was a location guy. Long story short…I sucked that year.
You were a Jammer?
What year?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay...
so the year before they switched to Jamestown. I know alot of the guys who came through there a couple years after you.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew a couple Jammers from 2001..
Kevin Brown from Miami was the one I knew pretty well. Utica was a brutal city to play for.
Yeah...
my buddy played at Y-D too. I know Hermida, Mitchell, Schade, Jai Miller.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yarmouth Dennis?
I played there in 1998…Where was Schade from?
Western Carolina
his brother played at Auburn.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that name sounded familiar...
I think one of my best friends knows him. Did he coach, or ever go to VMI?
I think...
the brothers are doing instruction now.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I faced him at Western
I had forgotten about him…just looked at an old boxscore. He only played there 1 yr.
Yeah I guess he transferred from Indiana
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm outta here...
I’ve got a date with happy hour at MacD’s
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No shit...
That’s my stomping grounds…we’ll have to grab a beer sometime
If that's your stomping grounds we probably already have
I’ve lived down in that area for about 6 years
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
My buddy was at Yarmouth...
in 02
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The Marlins said the catchers werent allowed to spot up, and had to set up over the middle EVERY pitch.
Why?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They were trying to develop...
Power pitchers. And they wanted them to be aggressive and throw strikes. I guess it made sense for the young kids out of hs, but I was fresh out of college and much further along, plus I didnt bring a lot of heat so it killed me. Not too mention the other teams knew we were doing it. Dick Williams son, Bob, was the Director of Player Development and he made sure we did it. I didnt think the league wasall that tough. I actually thought the Cape was more difficult then the NYP, but them’s the breaks I guess. It was a dumbass philosophy though.
To a degree...
I would think only for kids straight out of hs, or some of the Latin guys. Otherwise, it sucked for me. My first 2 outings I had 5 perfect innings. But me and the catcher(Lovelady) both had gotten there late and didnt know about this philosophy. They promptly informed us and my season went to shit real quick.
You know
I am sad a catcher named Lovelady never made it to the bigs.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm surprised you dont remember him...
He was the catcher at Miami with HUGE chops, and they were in the World Series every year, and he was their face. ESPN would show him constantly. He wasnt very good, but great guy that is coaching college ball in Ohio now.
But yes, outstanding name.
Actually...
I just realized Howard played for Batavia that year. I am scouring my memory banks. I think I may have faced him.
I broke my collarbone in a hockey game up in Batavia
That town sucks
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Cannizaro was Tualne...
And Sardinha was Pepperdine.
Platoon him with Gross
How does that not make sense?
Also Murton’s EqA is higher than Baldelli’s and doesn’t have a mysterious illness.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thoroughly dissapointed?
He has only started 6 games this year. I don’t see how he could have thoroughly done anything.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You dirty bitch
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Short list of rappers that are much, much better
Talib Kweli
Jurassic 5
Mr. Lif
Living Legends (esp. Murs)
The Roots
Immortal Technique
Just not a fan of mainstream pop garbage…sue me
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Short list of rappers who I think are good:
by kericr on Jul 11, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't let ESPN tell me what baseball team to root for
So why should I let MTV tell me what to listen to?
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The Roots suck, IMO
Ever listened to Illmatic? Greatest rap album ever. No Wu-Tang? I’m surprised you didn’t say Jedi Mind Tricks I always lump them in with that group you listed.
I like Illmatic, and still play it from time to time
But Nas started to suck when he became self-aware. And I’m not as big a fan of Jedi Mind Tricks
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
In the same vein
Reasonable Doubt was an awesome album as well…They both got overproduced over time. Not every rap has to have a well known beat ripped…Originality made them who they were, and they both lost a lot of that over time.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't knock the Roots till you see their live show
Something to be said for playing music live as opposed to rapping over a glorified Ipod
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I was a bit surprised not to see Black Star listed.
Talib and Mos together
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Knew I was forgetting someone. Tried not to be too superflous. One of my pet peeves is when people list multiple favorite groups which are really the same people…I.E. ‘My favorite musice is Phish, Mike Gordon, Trey Anastasio’ etc.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so old
Run DMC
Beastie Boys
LL Cool J (pre 1991)
by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
But I'm willing to stomach lame music at the ballpark
Goes with the territory
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Iwamura definitely looked out at third
But sometimes you gotta get lucky to win championships
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish there was more literature on this.
but the deals that happen are often the ones that are least talked about.
So… I would really, really like for this to go down.
btw, Fuck Jason Bay:
- Fresh Jason Bay rumors: the D’Backs and Cardinals are in pursuit. The Mets and Rays have kicked the tires as well. Heyman believes the Pirates want Emilio Bonifacio from the D’Backs, and maybe Colby Rasmus from the Cards. At any rate, the price will be steep with Bay signed for ‘09.
well, yeah
But if both Bay and Holliday will cost David Price and you’re forced to trade Price, you go with Holliday.
You should never feel forced to do any deal
Thats when you get raped…Billy Beane put it much more eloquently
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be dissapointed if the Rays traded Price for Holliday
I’d go absolutely apeshit if they did the same for Bay. There shouldn’t even be an argument with Price for Bay.
Is that Burrell's fifth strike?
1. fans
2. players
3. manager
4. fans again
5. whoever just picked DWright over him (not that DWright shouldn’t be an All-Star)
He'll wear that curse to his grave
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
In
Also, a Pat the Bat fan.
My friend from Philly swears he saw him get in his yellor Hummer w/ a dude and get a BJ from him on the road.
Wow
That’s a pretty harsh accusation for a sports figure. I think in their world its less damaging to your rep to be caught with a 16 y/o girl (Insert Clemens joke)
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOLYANKEES
The Yankee problems against lefty pitching are so dire that they will meet in the next day or so to determine whether to make a play for Richie Sexson, Hardball has learned.
I miss the old Yankees who placed 37 waiver claims.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hank misses the old Rays fans who sat quitely at the ballpark
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw him say we need to be less arrogant.
Has he met some of his bandwagon fans down here?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
# The Padres are only looking to move veterans, and want prospects in return.
THAT TAKES THEM OUT OF THE STREET RACE, RIGHT?
IIRC
Towers has played the role of buyer at strange times in the past
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
When they acquired Giles
They were 5 games back on 8/26 (in a 3 team race), with little real chance of overtaking both the Giants and Dodgers to win the West.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they did win a pair of division titles
But it was in the worst division in baseball, and they could have done it easier with Bay
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy who really got screwed
Was Oliver Perez. Methinks going to Pittsburgh killed what could have been an awesome career
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, I call shenanigans.
I can’t find anything else on this. There’s nothing on every A’s fansite I’ve checked and nothing on MLBTR.
Lame.
SaberToothedPie: Did you personally heard the A’s radio broadcasters say that about Street, or did somebody tell you they said it?
Just giving you hell
Because its fun
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard Billy Beane has a hook for a hand
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed.
Not like you’re a new troll, or at least new.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure it went like this:
Radio Guy: “Huston Street may be cleaning out his locker soon as Buster Olney is reporting that the A’s want to trade Murton and possibly Street to the Padres or Rays.”
Your Friend: “Huston Street may be cleaning out his locker soon as Buster Olney is reporting that the A’s want to trade Murton and possibly Street to the Padres or Rays.”
Again, I'm not calling you out or anything
But thirdhand news, especially when it stems from what someone heard with his/her own ears, is usually bullshit.
Its what OPS stands for right? Gotta be.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, they're refrencing here and Atlhetics Nation
Because DRaysBay is the paramount of up-to-date breaking Rays news.
No offense.
Let's see what else we can get put up
The Rays just entered talks to trade Reid Brignac and Ryan Royster for Hanley Ramirez and Mark Hendrickson.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My friend told me who heard it over the phone while talking to some guy who was on the street and someone said it passing by
who said he read it on an internal memo for the marketing company he worked for who happens to have an advertising deal with the Rays.
It’s more etched in stone then the ten commandments.
Because DRaysBay is the paramount of up-to-date breaking Rays news.
That’s not good.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if you're taking offense to my sarcasm or agreeing to it.
I’m just saying that spreading the word based on something you saw on an unofficial team blog is kinda…not smart.
Since everybodies here
I’m listening to the Cubs game and they said Randy Winn was taken out earlier with a knee contusion. I only mention because I thought he might be an affordable guy to go after closer to the deadline if we got nothing.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Fantasy baseball Link
http://fantasy.sportingnews.com/baseball/experts/matthew-lutovsky/20080710.html
Doesnt mention Rays specifically, but says street could be trade bait (under Closer Watch)
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Damn,
I really like you guys and was excited about this Street thing. I hope you guys are right.
And the MVN post is just the blogger reading here and posting what you guys have written.
What would the deal be? Wade Davis and Brignac?
Congrats on Wright getting to the AS game anyway
Even as an injury replacement, man deserved a spot.
Thanks man
It is pretty cool. I’ll be at the game with my Wright jersey on, hearing it from those Bronx Bums.
Kazmir vs Wright would be a site to see
Really?
Damn that sucks. You know he could’ve been a New York Me….ah, whatever.
I like how LaMar asked for Wright or Reyes when the Mets wanted Baez and Huff.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Pat
At least Ricciardi turned down our offer of David Wright for Jose Cruz Jr.
It would be if Kaz pitches
but he probably won’t; Kaz has to pitch Sunday. He’ll probably stay in the pen.
SI Link
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/07/09/trade.market/
3. Huston Street, A’s closer. General manager Billy Beane proved once again Tuesday that he’s willing to trade anyone at anytime. While the package going to the A’s for Harden seems underwhelming in that outfielders Matt Murton and Eric Patterson haven’t shown themselves to be stars in the making, consider that Sean Gallagher is a young starter under the team’s control and young Josh Donaldson is that rarest of catching commodities. And consider, too, that Harden’s spotty health history has made many teams shy away for years. Street has no such issues, and could become a pennant changer for someone. Odds for a deal: 3 to 1.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
If someone had MLB.com audio
Couldn’t they find the segment for you?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The audio from the game, if they can get the A's feed from last night they could prove you correct or wrong.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think MLB.com archives that sort of thing.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just shot out an email.
We shall see where this leads us.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
John Heyman can't tell the difference between
an ass and an elbow
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
The fans in Green Bay are gonna be pissed
Fortunately, the rest of us know that this is better for the Packers.
DAMMIT
I’m watching ESPN news and every time they say “We have breaking news” I turn around like a dog does to a can opener.
I did that about 3 times last week
They Broke the news every 10 minutes that Brett Farve sends text messages, then spent 5 minutes talking about it. After the 3rd time, I got about sick of it and stopped watching.
So if the deal goes down...
Who do you think it’ll be? I have a feeling Beane is fed up with Crosby and would love Brignac.
Somehow I think that Beane is smart enough to know he can get more than Brignac for these guys
But Brignac would likely be part of the deal.
But
Would you guys be okay with giving up a SP and a SS for a reliever? Granted a good young closer, but still.
Brignac seems to have no future whatsoever for this ballclub
Between Bartlett now and Beckham just being drafted and expected to be ready relatively quickly, and Brignac allegedly having been ready for the last year+, he’s squeezed.
Yeah, I really would be
SP shouldn’t be a need in this organization for a long time. And we just drafted beckham, so…
In a longhorn minute!
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So if this deal were to happen...
Would you consider yourself done, or then go after a bat?
I'm not sure we'd have room for another bat.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd should really go.
I hate to say it, but Hinske doesn’t need to be in the field at all anymore and I really, really want Gross to get more AB’s.
Interesting question
The Rays need offense but I don’t know where they can get it from. Obviously, if they manage to pick up an everyday right fielder who can hit, that’s good, but I personally believe that it’s not enough. Upton’s power numbers are down quite a bit from last year; and I don’t think anybody expected it. CC has been asleep at the wheel for the first half of the season, Pena has been off but it looks like he’s beginning to get things going, and even though he was below average at SS, Brendan Harris did bring lots of offense to that position, Bartlett on the other hand, has been the polar opposite.
But who, amongst these guys, can we really replace without downgrading? Pretty much any replacement player that is an offensive upgrade is going to also be a defensive downgrade; since this team’s success has been focused around defense and pitching, replacing any of them is breaking the formula thus far that has made this team successful.
I'd like to hope it's true and that his problem is fixable
At the same time, without power, he’s still showing himself capable in CF. Losing him would be devistating.
lol
now i see this rumor all over because of you guys. this deal better happen, or youll have to personally call friedman and beg him
nah
just saw some guys talking about how they heard it independently on metsgeek
saying they heard sonnanstine was involved, but i highly doubt that
Can you ask where?
Bendix egged me on in hoping this was real.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
from Baseball Toaster today
Asked if dealing Harden might lead to more trades involving players such as Joe Blanton or Huston Street, Beane responded: ” ‘No’ is probably the quickest answer.” But he added: “I think you have to look at (possible deals) independently.”
http://catfishstew.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1050615.html
That shirt is not something a stoner would wear.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 11, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of Street, but we have no need for Murton
He is not really much of an upgrade over Ruggiano and/or Gomes. Not worth giving up anything more than Ruggiano + a really bad prospect.
If Ruggiano isn't up for good after the trade deadline
Then I think its safe to say he has virtually no future with the team.
I agree.
Which is why I’m still pretty adamant that we won’t deal for a RH RF’er. Friedman just seems too smart to toss Ruggiano aside like that.
Hell, I don’t even see the need for a RH DH while we still have Aybar.
Yeah.
Targeting a certain audience maybe?
by EminenceFront on Jul 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
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