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Street/Murton? Probably Not...

Maddonbearlo3_tiny by R.J. Anderson on

Yes, I'm totally piggybacking off of this fanshot because I haven't been around for the last 12 or so hours, but as you can imagine the idea of landing Huston Street and Matt Murton in one deal very soon excites me very, very much.

Those two make a ton of sense for the Rays, and let me just list my points here:

1) Huston freaking Street! Relief ace, 24 years old, two more years under team control. His name is Huston Street! Frankly I may giggle from excitement if we do land him for quite a while.

2)  I really, really, really like Huston Street.

3) Murton makes a ton of sense.

4) STREET!

5) The idea of this deal makes too much sense.

6) HUSTON STREET!

 

That is all until we find out more.

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Street and Murton for Niemann and Salas...

Makes a ton of sense for both teams.

by Peter Bendix on Jul 11, 2008 1:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I think the Rays Organization is undervaluing Niemann...

2 years of some MLB time….guy will be a top 3 starter for most teams

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Jul 11, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe

But wouldn’t you be happy to get Street/Murton at that cost?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dunno....

I watched the Cardinal’s trade away Harren for Mark Mulder….look how that worked out for everybody

A’s have always left a bad taste in my mouth after that.

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Jul 11, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Colliseum

makes pitchers look sick!

by rglass44 on Jul 11, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope it happens

and it looks as if we wouldnt have to sell the farm considering what the A’s got for Harden

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Street sure, Murton, why?

He hits 60% of his balls in play on the ground and has 15 XBH in 231 at bats this year. That is not going to help produce any runs. The best thing I can say about him is that he makes a lot of contact but he’d have to hit 7th or 8th in the lineup because he’d be a double play machine if he hit up in the 2 hole where most high contact hitters live.

by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:31 PM EDT   0 recs

What stats are you looking at?

Mine show only 40 AB’s for Murton this year

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

combine AAA and Maj

fangraphs.com

you can go to minorleaguesplits.com to get G/L/F for his work in AAA. 109 GB out of 169 total balls in play

by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Minor league #'s?

If so, I’ll put more stock in what he’s shown at the major league level. Lou Pinella did a really good job at making Upton look like a scrub as well…Don’t discount the ‘messsin with the head’ factor here.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In 870 major league at bats

56% GB rate. Unless you are a speedy, those are not good numbers for a corner outfielder position. They’re Delmon Young like – which is why he was below replacement level last year.

If Murton were here, he’d be hitting out of the 8 hole platooning with Gross/Hinske in RF.

by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Based on his l/r splits

Against lefties, he’s Delmon Young with a higher average and more power (about .80 points of OPS higher)

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He has always been a GB hitter

2006 – 455 major league at bats – 56% GB; 2.4 G/F
2007 – 235 major league at bats – 47% GB, 1.2 G/F – and still slugged lower than he did in 2006.

Murton has always made solid contact and has been double digit walk rate for his career. Something in his approach has always generated more grounders than flyballs and because he isn’t fast enough to take advantage of it, it has resulted in a rather pedestrian major league career when given the chance.

by Jason Collette on Jul 11, 2008 1:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We need a bat, not an arm

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 11, 2008 1:31 PM EDT   0 recs

we need both

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 11, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Street >>> Fuentes, Others

I like Fuentes, but given a bullpen that already has depth, a lights-out ace is much more valuable than another 3.75 ERA guy.

What’s the outlook on Street’s health?

Is the consensus that Murton is still an above-average corner outfielder?

by skyking162 on Jul 11, 2008 1:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Has anyone seen anything of this rumor

Confirmed in print (Not counting this site)?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:40 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll try and get confirmation

But didn’t someone say Olney confirmed it?

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 11, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cartman: Butters, do you think 9/11 was just a plot by some angry terrorists, or do you think there was some kind of coverup?
Butters: Well, I heard that 9/11 was caused by President Bush.
Cartman: Aha! Do you see?
Kyle: Where did you hear that??
Butters: [points] From Eric.
Cartman: I rest my case.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 11, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope

None of the usual suspects have it, and I even did a google news search.

by rglass44 on Jul 11, 2008 1:41 PM EDT   0 recs

What do we think Hinske will do the rest of the way?

.262/.354/.520 first half, which seems to be backed up by the batted ball numbers. But he’s never had an OPS+ above 120 before and owns a career 101 OPS+. Murton’s better than Hinske’s 2008 projection (and can play defense), but if Hinske has made real changes, he deserves the at-bats.

Best case scenario might be to acquire Murton with Street and flip Hinske.

by skyking162 on Jul 11, 2008 1:53 PM EDT   0 recs

why again is anyone excited about Murton?

he was never that amazing in the minors, and thoroughly dissapointed in his ML stint this year. why is he in any way an upgrade over anything we’ve got/could easily get?

by davidsmarch on Jul 11, 2008 2:27 PM EDT   0 recs