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All-Star Game Open Thread


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Cliff Lee 12-2 18 18 1 1 0 0 124.2 109 34 32 5 20 106 2.31 1.03


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Ben Sheets 10-3 18 18 3 1 0 0 123.0 109 40 39 13 28 108 2.85 1.11


 

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MVP = Nate McLouth

No particluar reason…Just always seems to be one of the more unlikely candidates

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NL -2

book it

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 15, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Talent need not apply at ESPN

EY is the younger version of Joe Morgan.

I want Dan Shulman, Orel, and Phillips to do every game I see on ESPN. That is a good group when they work together.

by Jason Collette on Jul 15, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orel is amazing

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 15, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MVP: Joe Mauer

he gets a couple doubles and could have 6 RBI

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll laugh

If Rivera blows the save, but Papelbum gets the win when the AL wins the game in extras.

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Paps is the one who has been acting like a world class dick at every opportuinty

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waaaa...?

How did Billy Wagner make the All-Star team?

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't been this excited for an ASG in awhile

Maybe because we have 3 guys in it or maybe because of Yankee stadium but for some reason I can’t wait for the game

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow this will take forever

the game wont start until way after 830

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ozzie Smith is my most favorite player of all time

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DAMN!

I went to the game on Saturday

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how the Yankee fans remind me why I hate the Yankees

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

You’d think the All-Star Game would transcend that.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

they even managed to cheer a-rod

...they are so bi-polar with him

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seconded

There are too many guys in the game to boo for legit reasons.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming he makes it there

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, dammit, dammit.

I wish it was Mays/Fukudome/Ichiro.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice that they finish with Yogi Berra

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They should have him as the color commentator for one inning

that would be incredibly entertaining

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would

Berra is hilarious

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because she plays the guitar

Wish she had brought her singing voice though

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

U

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EPIC FAIL

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FAIL

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

It never really goes 4+....But it always seems like it

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am i the only one that finds something about her incredibly annoying

I dont even know what it is, I just really cant stand her

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's actually my reason to be annoyed by her

She felt the need to latch onto him for his fame

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are many different reasons for many different people to be annoyed by her

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That commercial break was stupid

Especially with people like McCovey and MacPhail that probably shouldn’t be out there that long

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

George looks like utter shit

O/U on how many months he has left?

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about smartest

I mean, look who he left the Yankees to…

But he’s up there.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To his sons.

No reason to do any different.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only reason it went to his sons

Is because his son-in-law decided to engage in some extramarital activities

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I deeply hate the Yankees

but I will always respect George. He has done a ton for this community and this sport.

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real question

Will he be around when his kid runs the team into the ground?

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But he probably won’t be coherent enough to know it

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steinbrenner?

oh boy…

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I reiterate

Yogi is hilarious

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Yankees

but Steinbrenner is a genius and is the reason the Yankees are well the Yankees.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but Hank isn't

Luckily for them, Hal is also involved in the team ownership

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank is outspoken

But I wouldn’t take that to mean he’s stupid necessarily.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hot-headed is worse than stupid

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It explains the 15-year lull in the success

He wasn’t firing Joe Torre every few months

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek Jeter welcomed into the Gilette Fusion elite group

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or at least be honest

and say it’s going to end at 12:30am instead of 11pm.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just remembered that apparently there are different time zones.

Move the pre-game stuff to 7:30 and have the first pitch at 8:15.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

West coast

If they start at 7, then people on the west coast are still at work. It’s all about $$$.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a crazy idea, how about move it up 3 days and have it on a Monday

Start the pregame stuff around 5 and start the game at 7.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you meant Saturday, I think?

In that case they’re wasting higher drawing games in 15 stadiums rather than a guaranteed sellout.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yogi Berra makes more sense than you

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it really going to matter that much

the big market teams (Yankees, Sox, Cubs etc..) are going to sell out and the other teams there is what a 5-10,000 person difference. A number that seems like a lot but in the grand scheme of things not a ton of money.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I think it matters more

To teams like us that are hosting this weekend

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a fairly low-key dude

Ever hear him speak in some commercials?

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or the "Language Lesson" spots during home games?

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was CP and AKI

I hadnt noticed Navarro in any of them yet

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Navi was in one during the Saturday Royals game

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bob Melvin Taco Bell commercial

Why?

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee K!

Nice!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon AL...

I want the 1st game of the World Series in Tropicana Field!

by Jason Collette on Jul 15, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Lee K!

Nice!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KK!!

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

saved by cliff lee

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

You didn’t want a ASG Racist K?

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't get a K

LEE, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Lou and C.B. Bucknor

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't care how sad the kid looks

I work that hard and catch a HR, I’m keeping it

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But then it wouldn't be a fun commercial

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if the kid kicked him in the shin and then took the ball??

sounds like a fun commercial to me

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a fun commercial. It's a sad social commentary.

Hard work means nothing if you just have a sad face or a pretty smile.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL Chase Utley

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Utley butchered that

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll need to bring Uggla out

Uggla would get that

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL Soto

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didnt think so

thanks

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

Hammy looked bad there

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now for M(aterial)-Rod

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Terrible

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's in October form

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod fails

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why they should let girls play baseball

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was gonna say, you have BPH?

j/k

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So far

That fearsome Hammy/A-Rod connection looks like suck

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"She's gone from 'suck' to 'blow'."

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Or, choose all of the above"

And then we go to the at-bat

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chipper gets the first hit for the NL

Figures

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lee Racist K!

Nice!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ironically, not American anymore

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Budweiser

The Great Belgian Lager

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coors is Canadian, and Miller is Afrikaaner

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only American lagers left are Samuel Adams and Yuengling

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking about major label beers

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

The Irony is that they have had an anti-Miller marketing campaign for several years that uses the buy-american theme at its core

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even more irony:

Nothing more American than chasing the almighty dollar. They folded for an extra $4B.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point in time

It’s silly to concern oneself with who has majority ownership in a corp. The focus should be on where the products are made. What’s more American? A Toyota Prius made in the states or a Ford Focus made in Mexico?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 15, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prius isn't made in the states (yet)

But Corolla, Camry, Matrix, Tacoma and Tundra are.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and now the Boston Red Sox vs. the NL All Stars

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny can't catch up to a good fastball

anymore.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and now

Kaz, Longo, and Navi are sitting with each other

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parker Brothers walks

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will Youk cry if he K's?

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Soto sucks at throwing

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it could happen

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Youk fails

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shorty's up

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 15, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA

All three outs made by Sux!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hellboy 2 was decent, what I miss so far except for Mccarver's mccarverness.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Besides the expected tributes

A whole lotta nothin’

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I despise the Yankees

I love Yogi, though

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that little asian guy

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lolJeter

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

/facepalm

Jeter pulls a CC

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still gotta dog your team

Even when they aren’t on the field.

Harsh…

by kurby on Jul 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Hammy story is a great story

but I’m a little tired of hearing it.

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Way to make Big Z work, rejects

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Halladay K!

Nice!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Him with a cutter would make me happy.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kaz + Cutter = Holy Shit

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in your bullpen

stealin’ your cutter

by gatorbait on Jul 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHIRO!!

NICE!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ICHIRO!!

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THANKS ICHIRO

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ichiro is a bad man!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ASG FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The first rule of running on Ichiro is that you don't run on Ichiro

The second rule of running on Ichiro is that you don’t run on Ichiro.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL Big Z throwing at Manny

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL Hanley Ramirez flashing the defensive skills

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and Parker Brothers saves his ass by failing

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL Bradley

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Kazmir pitches he should behead someone.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd have to beat Maddon/Friedman to it

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FAIL

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK

God damnit, Santana

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea we don't want that guy?

Make the deal now. Davis + Niemann

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Except

They’re gonna want Price

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not if they realistically want to trade him.

by Vin on Jul 15, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thay're gonna wait for Bay than ask more.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't want that guy.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That might work for Bay

but not for Holliday

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, No

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really, I wouldn't think twice.

A guy who potentially could be our #5 starter, potential pen guy, and potential 4th outfielder

for an all-star RF who hits .330 with 20-30 HR 100+ RBI

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wouldn't be nearly enough

We’d obviously make that deal. The Rockies will not.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok that makes since

I thought yall were saying you wouldn’t make the deal from the Rays perspective

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For 1.5 years of that guy. And he'll be a

.300/360/.540 hitter away from Coors. Not with it.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a

.300/.400/.450 guy this year away from Coors. He’d be a stud and help us a lot.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus Canadians are easily manipulated.

We can sign Bay long-term, not so much with Holliday/Boras.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

He’s going to steal 25 bases and can play defense. Bay can do neither of those things. They are very similar hitters, but Holliday is the better player.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He plays an average LF. He'd move to a more challenging right.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bay is worse though

and would be making the same transition.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in the AL.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think you can completely discredit everything a guy does

because he plays in Coors. Not to mention 2008 Coors is different than late 90’s early 2000 Coors.I remember hearing about them changing the balls to counteract the thin air.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The almighty Humidor

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Humidor, yes.

But I’m not selling the farm for that guy.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have the depth in the farm

why should we be scared and lose are chance to win this year by getting a guy like Murton instead of ponying up and getting Holliday.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murton wouldn't be that far off for four years, and cheap

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woohoo we an have a below average RF for 4 years

Instead of an all-star for 2 but it’s okay we will have a couple extra arms in the pen.

My guess is if we have Murton he won’t be our starting RF in 2 years anyway.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, we'd have an above average RF

And my guess is if we have Holliday he won’t be our starting right fielder in two years either, unless you think Boras is missing out on that payday.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wouldn't be below average

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When to Matt Murton become above average.

The Cubs gave him every oppurtunity he could possibly want to start in LF and he couldn’t do it.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except not.

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In how many At Bats?

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sample Size

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sample Size

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is simply false.

2006 .809 OPS
MLB LF AVG in 2008: .755

That’s above average. Not Holliday levels, but above average.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No they didnt!

They went out and signed Soriano and never gave him a fair shot.

Trust me, I’m also a Cubs fan and have followed the entire thing. I think Murton would be great for the Rays

Blake
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by usfraysfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Every opportunity"

Um, no. Guys the Cubs brought in/played over Murton: Jones, Hollandsworth, Soriano, Floyd, Pagan, Patterson, Pie, ect.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is my point

If we want to truly try to compete our big move can’t be for a platoon player. I doubt we see the Yanks or Sox go out and trade for a platoon guy.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 15, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get this attitude that we aren't going to compete

Unless we make a big move.

Through more than half of the year we’ve had a top defense/pitching staff with no sure signs of regression laying ahead and a middle of the pack offense which is actually above the midpoint in OBP/SLG.

Maybe I’m just quirky in thinking we’re truly trying to compete whether we acquire Holliday, Bay, Murton, or someone like Blake.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Rays are past the point of trying to experiment on unknowns

If they want to compete, they need to get someone who has a track record. They can’t afford to gamble on a player that may be good or may not. This is why Price isn’t the answer this year either.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then just say that.

Nobody is saying he’s a better player than Bay/Holliday, we’re simply saying he presents an alternative that makes more sense, in our opinions, for the long term.

Quoting small sample sizes as proof of talent doesn’t help anyone.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh...

This is my first comment on this thread about who I think the Rays should go after.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

Threads are all mashed together on my screen, can’t tell who is replying to who anymore.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone is discrediting him completely

Saying he’s an .900 OPS guy is giving him credit that:
A) His road numbers are hardly indicative of his true talent.
B) His home numbers are inflated some.
C) He’s a really good player.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 15, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His home and away splits alone nearly discredit this train of thought

He’s simply a much much better hitter there. With the stigma of coors canaveral, there’s not much of a way to know if he’s a better hitter at coors or a better hitter at home.

Also, I’m sure that Vinnie Cashsteala is floating in the back of the NRO.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conversely

Price would be a .500 guy with a 4.00 ERA @ Coors.

Truely impressive.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In retrospect

Maybe it isn’t much of a stretch. He’s compared to Griffey Jr, and in 99 not only was Griffey in his prime, but absolutely unbelievably skilled. Griffey had similar hype coming out as the next coming of baseball Jesus. Griffey also tried to kill himself I believe after his 2nd year.

by kericr on Jul 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mantle was thrown around for Hammy

He was truly an elite prospect.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine him in RF right now

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Josh comps were based on talent

The JoeD comps were based on nationality and number.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mauer!

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gad damnit, Ichiro

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by JMB on Jul 15, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“It’s a fallacy to think pitchers get it where they want all the time”

Honestly, who thinks this? McCarver is truly a moron. Or at the very least plays one on TV.

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by Tyler on Jul 15, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CLUTCH

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by P Brady on Jul 15, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs