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Silly Season

I actually remember when I said the Rays being mentioned for every good player simply due to their contender status wouldn't bother me, but things are slowly changing with stuff like this and this. I'll address the Price/Pirates note first and simply say if there is one player that the Rays won't trade it's David Price.

Why? Because he's a 22 year old future front line starter on a team that hasn't had too many of those come through the pipelines. Yes, the Rays have quite a few young arms, no that doesn't mean you should trade them for short term gain only. Young pitching is like oil, if you have it in excess you sell it for well over the actual price, otherwise you keep it. The promise of young pitching is what made the Rays trade Delmon Young, what made the Athletics spend four million on Michael Inoa, and what made the Mariners forfeit 2008 for Stephen Strasburg.

Which brings us to the next note that the Rays are interested in Brian Fuentes, Clint Barmes, and Willy Taveras. To their credit both Barmes and Tavares are rangy defenders which would make them valuable to any team, except this one.  Neither are better on defense than the current options, and both of their bats are sorely lacking. No, Jason Bartlett is not an offensive gem, but at least he doesn't hack quite as much as Barmes. To Taveras' credit he has a pretty good understanding of the strike zone, but doesn't seem to willing to actually draw a walk.

Frankly Brian L. Hunter and Bo Hart types are available across the minors, there's little reason to waste assets for bench novelties at best especially when Nate Haynes and Andy Cannizaro are rotting in Durham.

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I agree completely

I would hope if we did try to acquire Barmes, Fuentes and Taveras that we wouldn’t give up more than Niemann and a couple of 2nd tier prospects. As far as Price goes, if they trade him they need to have their heads examined. If he developes as they have projected and everyone expects they could have a rotation rivalling the Braves of the early 90’s..maybe better.. The way Garza is throwing he’s obviously a stud…A rotation of Price, Kazmir,Garza Shields and Jackson/Sonny should put fear into other teams for years to come. Barring injuries we could have the best rotation in the majors by far. All we need is for the players we have to get back to their normal #’s, bring Price along and add that solid RFer and closer (or Percival stays healthy) and we have the makings of becoming a dynasty.

by arkansasraysfan on Jul 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

RJ you read my mind, about all of this

anyone that mentions trading david price is either drunk or on some kind of drug or dont know what the hell they are talking about, because price might be up in about a month and with the rotation of kaz,shields,garza,price, and sonny/ejax then i think that the final playoff push begins and a playoff rotation of the first four guys i think that the playoffs that no one will be able to beat them 4 out of 7 or 3 out of 5 without beating the pen. i really am not interested in clint barmes because barty was just starting to hit and his defense is just amazing, im interested in fuentes, but i think that a RH bat is more important right now and im really hopeing that they trade for both in either nady/marte or street/murton because then 2 needs are done at the same time.

by RaysOfHope on Jul 19, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I think all the trade talk swirling around Street...

is starting to affect his concentration. He blew another save tonite (5 in 22 chances) and his ERA is 4.19 now. Murton went 2-4 to raise his avg. up to .176. I think if we can get these 2 and get Murton in a position to play on a regular basis and put Street in a position where he knows he’s wanted/needed they would both end up being VERY productive. I really hope Friedman puts some effort into trying to get this one done before going in another direction. I realize Beane’s not the easiest person to deal with and he has to keep his options open but I’d really like to see this happen…oh yeah and SIGN BARRY!!!!

by arkansasraysfan on Jul 20, 2008 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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