7/21: OAK (51-47) at RAYS (57-40)
Oakland Athletics at Tampa Bay Rays, Jul 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | ERA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| OAK | LH D. Eveland |
113.1 | 3.49 | 110 | 5.88 | 4.45 | 1.32 | 0.32 | .677 | 1.40 | 1.60 | 15.82 |
| RAYS | LH S. Kazmir |
83.0 | 3.04 | 136 | 9.87 | 3.36 | 2.94 | 0.87 | .662 | 1.17 | 0.65 | 17.48 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How we roll
Iwamura, 2b
Upton, cf
Crawford, lf
Longoria, 3b
Pena, 1b
Navarro, c
Aybar, dh
Gomes, rf
Zobrist, ss
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that's a tough one
it does give the player taking them an energy boost. though i imagine they could get that “legally” from 5 hour energy or having a cup of coffee or something like that. it’s a slippery slope…
Some amphetamines should be banned.
You don’t want players shooting meth or popping greenies willy-nilly.
On the other hand, I’ve had a Ritalin prescription for almost 15 years now, and that’s technically an amphetamine too. If that’s what people are getting caught for, that’s a bunch of bullshit.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
MVP to Kazmir based on the Oakland lineup and long rest for Kaz
BJ’s third homerun in the eighth inning will barely be positive WPA.
MVP: Kaz
Fiddle me this,
Fiddle me that.
Kaz on the mound,
Here come Fiddle Cat!
B Rad the Ray Fan
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by BWoodrum on Jul 21, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At leas, we saw Durham leave with the brewers, maybe sturton will stay
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Has the RFO ever expressed interest in Murton?
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Hopefully you will have an opportunity to see what a bad investment Street is.
I hear tell you’re thinking of trading for Jon Rauch of my Nationals. A much better, cheaper option.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
have we talked about Street here at all? can't remember...
unless Street’s injured, he’s an excellent pitcher. relative to their potential cost (trade and salary), Rauch might be the better option.
Hooray>!??
11 pitches = 1 out
therefore projected IP = 3.1!!!
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Kaz has an underrated pickoff move.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Sweet
Now the strikeout of Cust can leadoff the 2nd
TONIGHT ALL OF YOU PUNKS ARE TEMPORARY SEATTLE MARINERS FANS
And don’t you forget it.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Playing the red sox? or I don't care
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Beej you amazing peace of awesome
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
BEEJ HURTS THIS TEAM BY BEING TOO AWESOME
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
I actually thought that was a pretty good swing
would have preferred the grounder to 2nd though like normal lol.
by PewterPirate55 on Jul 21, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Some crazy guy told me the other day that the best strategy is to hit your best hitter 3rd
I said your stupid. Everyone knows you should hit your most impatient hitter and one that barely gets on base 30% of the time and has little to no power
Let me guess, it was RJ right? I swear the guy noes nuthing.
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Longo officially has stuck out more than Beej.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
stealing a quote from the Brewers game chat
"Twins general manager Bill Smith, on Livan Hernandez, who improved to 10-6 with a 5.29 earned-run average with Saturday’s victory over Texas: "I’ll take the (10) wins. Who do you want, a guy who’s 10-15 with a 2.80 ERA or a guy who’s 16-8 with a 7.00 ERA? I’ll take the 16-8."
yep, Friedman’s ok.
This simply cannot be a real quote.
Any GM saying this should be fired instantly.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Well, you see, there are more than one statistic when it comes to pitching blah blah blah FIP blah.
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Okay, fine. If the 7.00 ERA pitcher somehow has better peripherals than the 2.80 ERA pitcher (ridiculously unlikely), then you've got a point.
Somehow I don’t think that’s what Bill Smith was talking about.
This may just be smoke-blowing for the purposes of justifying Liriano remaining in the minors.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Must be an optical illusion.
He’s just walking people, but the ump is forgetting to say “take your base.”
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Kaz is fucking stoned, he's in his happy place
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
I think we are just waiting for Gomes to do something stupid
by PewterPirate55 on Jul 21, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That should be the walk right there. The called strike was a ball.
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Looks like flashback night at the Trop
Nobody’s there tonight
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Thanks
I always suspected he had more pop from the left side…. but his OBP is better as a righty
by PewterPirate55 on Jul 21, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Yankees and Sox play this weekend I will be rooting for the weather.
I only wish they would allow them to use aluminum bats for that series.
I'll root for the Yanks if they're at home
The Yanks are beginning to tear it up on the road. If they’re in Boston, I’m rooting for the Sox. Sorry.
Joseph Conrad? Author of Heart of Darkness?
Author of Heart of Darkness?
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Don't forget Nostromo and The Secret Sharer
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Kazmir is so high right now.
I bet he wakes and bakes every day.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Does he get this reputation from pure speculation?
Or is there some substantive claim concerning this?
B Rad the Ray Fan
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Our team is full of early-20 year olds
They do what early-20 year olds do.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Homework?
That’s what I do. But then again, I frequent of sports website that would overload a normal brain with its statistical barrages unbecoming of sports fandom.
B Rad the Ray Fan
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How else would anybody look that cheerful on their Gameday photo?
Think about it.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Exactly. Kazmir's smile is a happy stoned grin. Garza's look is the last thing you see before the serial killer disembowels you.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Garza is the Joker, Kazmir is the Smoker.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Garza is the joker , hields is the smoke, Kazmir is the miiiidnight toker
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
He had a reputation in NYC as being a bit of a pothead, apparently.
Duquette actually leaked this out in a furious attempt to justify the idiocy of the Kaz/Zambrano trade.
Besides, just LOOK at the dude. Totally baked.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Kazmir is not a good fielder...>When's high.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Needs to smoke not-so-good shit for gameday
Hit the bong later
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Beej is a better hitter than CC
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
GODDAMMIT BJ YOU OWN SO HARD
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Kazmir hurts this team by getting the minchies
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
No, I think he's actually like Towelie.
He derives super abilities from his tokery.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Kaz: Have you looked at the bubble...I mean REALLY look at it?
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That was an ideal sequence. Two called strikes and a shit pitch the batter will get himself out on.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
If we trade for Street now
Can he just walk over to our dugout?
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59 through 4, this should be a 7.1-7.2 outing
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
the A's are going to be f'ing good in two years
do they have ANY non-cost-controlled contracts? Chavez still?
Street and Cust will get arb money.
But they’ll have a whole team of young guys who are free and money to go spend on a couple free agents to fill some holes. sheesh.
IF they were to trade Duscherer
That would essentially mean they traded their entire rotation this season.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Since last season perhaps I should say
Haren
Harden
Gaudin
Blanton
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
HELLO MY NAME IS WILLY AYBAR'S BAT AND I WILL BE SENDING YOU TO LEFT FIELD BLEACHERS, IF YOU LOOK BEHIND YOU, YOU CAN SEE EVELAND'S SOUL DESTROYING ITSELF.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
"Heart and Hustle"
That phrase brings back bad memories
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HALF PRICE DRINKS YOU BITCHES
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Gomes is like Robin Hood for stolen bases
In all seriousness, I don’t recall him being this good at thieiving bags. When did that start?
I don't know how he's 8/9 on the year.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
For all the whining we’ve had about Gomes struggling at the plate and in the field, he has been a very smart and solid baserunner this year.
He's gotten lucky a few times.
Like the time against the Sox I think, but he’s made fewer errors lately than expected.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
OFFENSE VS A LEFTY? THE HIT SHOW!
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Insert Joe Morgan talking about the Angels style.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonny Gomes = dead set determined on collecting a ring this year.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
...You know, CC would have had a shot at beating that out if he hustled
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
No, B.J. is the one who needs steroids
Carl’s power is great just like everything else about his game.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't work
He thinks that everyone swings at pitches in the dirt.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing that matters is W-L record by starting pitchers.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody on ESPN actually thought we should replace Kaz w/ Sonny at the ASG
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You wouldn't happen to have a name for this imbecile, would you?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember the name
I just remember the raw stupidity
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It was Plaschke, I heard it
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Thanks
I honestly couldn’t remember if I heard it on ATH or PTI
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Agreed...
I like Kruk cause of his personality, but he reference OBP today on Sportscenter, and one of the other guys made a comment like,”Next thing you know, you’ll reference VORP”’. And Kruk looked at him like, “Not a chance.” They dont want to expand their knowledge.
Some writer from Chicago...
Said Ellsbury should be the ROY over Longoria. It’s over at firejoemorgan.com. I was shocked. Guy has to be a ‘tard.
You have to consider how long ago this was
There was a solid case for this argument until about Mid-June.
Because of Steals
Rookie of the Year, AL: Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox.
Ellsbury is hitting only .269 but he has stolen 35 bases and scored 60 runs. He gets a slight edge over Tampa Bay’s Evan Longoria and Texas’ David Murphy.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Rogers was the same guy who awarded teams
Based on how many MLB players they added this past off-season, meaning you could trade all of our minor leagues for Cristian Guzman and we got 1 point while the Nats got 0.
That’s how he judged the winners/losers.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He has been really good
I could see the argument for Drew. A-Rod’s been better, but Drew is Top-5.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Drew wins MVP if the Sox make the playoffs w/o a good season from Ortiz
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If wanting to have Longoria's babies is wrong...
I don’t want to be right.
Me and my friends used to have a saying for things like this when we played pool (poorly)
That call of the night brought to you by Miwaulkee’s Best.
We had an entire game like that on this board a couple of weeks ago
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I went to the game on Friday
During Floyd’s second at bat I think, a couple of people in my section started yelling “hit the ball Floyd”. Me in my drunkenness blurted out very loudly, “Yeah Floyd, hit the ball. HIT IT LIKE THE FIST OF AN ANGRY GOD!” I think he heard me because he immediately smacked a weak dribbler to 2nd and everyone in my general vacinity burst into laughter.
They were laughing with your failure, not at your failure.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Thread Emotion
Probably not the best thing to bring to the ballpark
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That being said I would not go around saying stuff in public like:
“I wish I was on octopus so I could touch him eight times at once.” or anything like that.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be worse.
“OH MY GOD AYBAR HIT THAT ONE HARDER THAN HIS WIFE!”
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I usually manage to get one good laugh out of a game
I did hold back on screaming “Here comes Jesus Power!” in the at bat where Zobrist hit the homer.
What do you scream after B.J. does something?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaz
should probably stop walking a guy who cant hit above .240
just a hunch
Beej ran out of power last year.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
He is racist
He doesn’t like white people…at least not playing baseball.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
I just found out earlier this season
I was crushed when RJ told me he was white.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Tools + white players don't mix too well.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He's fast
Does that make you toolsy? His ceiling is Juan Pierre (hopefully Morrison walks though).
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Our fourth(?) round draft pick this year.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a blazing fast
Tall white guy from Oregon. Has absolutely no power.
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As the new kid on the block this spring, Morrison stuck out like a sore thumb—particularly with Oregon’s high school crop being one of the weakest in years. His combination of a lefthanded bat, speed (6.6 seconds in the 60) and center-field skills drew comparisons at a similar stage of development to Boston Red Sox center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury, an Oregon high school product drafted in the first round three years ago out of Oregon State. The difference, though, according to scouts is that Morrison has a better arm than Ellsbury. There were concerns with Morrison’s bat early in the season, especially after he failed to hit even .300 as a high school junior, but he showed significant improvement over the course of the spring and his interest from scouts kept pace—to a point that he became the clear-cut top prospect in Oregon this season. Scouts are still not sold on his true hitting ability as he batted just .382-1-12 (along with 17 stolen bases) for Tigard High against below-average Oregon high school pitching. But he has good hitting mechanics and should take off as he gets stronger—though there is a lot of projection involved with his bat. Morrison arrived on the Oregon baseball scene in a round-about way after spending his junior season at a Chesapeake, Va., high school, only to move with his family to Hawaii during the summer and on to Oregon in time for the 2008 season. He was a key piece of the University of Oregon’s first recruiting class.—ALLAN SIMPSON
Because an Edwin fanboy used the same starts to say he was improving yesterday.
Season long his K/BB ratio is worse than last year’s.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Crosby
He couldn’t know Toe Nash was a rapist and a thug. All he knew was he was as gifted as Hammy physically.
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Glad to have you back, Kazmir
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
you said we've had pure domination from our good young pitchers...
but jackson didn’t dominate….
9 = 8
We crushed Braden last year
He’s boring now. Last year he threw a screwball. He stopped cause it hurt. I’m disappointed.
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Fastest I've ever seen?
Gathright probably.
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On second though
I take that back, Deion was faster.
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I don't remember his 60 time
but it had to be close. He ran a 4.3 in Timberlines! That’s absurd. One of the few guys who could consistently run a sub 4.3 40. Heck, he was in the 4.38 range when he came back with the Ravens at 37.
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i would of kept Balfour in
would of hated to see Miller/Reyes/Hammel
but Balfour can go 2 now I hope we can use JP tomorrow.
Names carry over, you just have to click the TOS agreement.
Oh and things they don’t do:
Large pics, that’s what she said, +1, and that’s about it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
They make 9/11 jokes, so I think that's fair.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The have a meme
of a plane flying into Yankee Stadium.
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JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY PEEEEEE HOOOOOWWWWEEELLL
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
God Dammit
Knowing Evan will be with the Rays for the next 10 years makes me love this team so much more.
beware of the steinbrenners
"DUDE..."
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 21, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
whew!
fantasy stats were dismal for monday until the rays won. thank you rays
"DUDE..."
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 21, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody cares about your fantasy team.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
well then fuck off and die turd burglar!
man you are uptight!
"DUDE..."
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jul 21, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions

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