7/22: OAK (51-48) at RAYS (58-40)
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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PrintOakland Athletics at Tampa Bay Rays, Jul 22, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | ERA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| OAK | LH D. Braden |
15.0 | 4.80 | 80 | 7.20 | 4.80 | 1.50 | 0.60 | .804 | 1.60 | 0.67 | 16.73 |
| RAYS | RH A. Sonnanst. |
114.0 | 4.58 | 90 | 5.45 | 1.58 | 3.45 | 0.87 | .790 | 1.37 | 1.10 | 15.10 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I want you all to look at the very bottom of this page, and be very, very afraid.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Don't make me break out the chinchilla Sturton pic.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
I remember chinchilla Bonds.
I don’t remember chinchilla Sturton. Besides, that doesn’t have the same disturbance factor.
Once you see it
you will be DISTURBED.
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how did this occur?
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or he just gave Pat a lil
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Won't be watching tonight
My Mets friend went to me to the Rays game on Friday, I owe him in watching the Mets/Phillies opener tonight. That’s going to be an interesting series.
Im half expecting to see Huston Street to come out on the field in a Rays uniform.
That would be a trade story for all time.
They can have Gomer and Hammel
Call it a day
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
...Did an A's team just sac bunt?
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
When in doubt, get some rabbit ears
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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither is Emil Brown
And Thomas/Chavez/Cust can’t do it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lately it's been a mix of Brown/Cust/Crosby/Gonzalez
Unless Gonzalez morphs two years ahead in his progression overnight none of those seem to be upgrades or even equals to Murton.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
K!
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Braden is walking 4.80 per 9, while Striking out 7.20 per 9
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
And I'm pretty sure he doesn't throw
his screwball anymore. It hurt his arm to much.
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How about a Christi?
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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
We're making him work
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I don't know if I'd say lost it.
Somehow Carl “won” the third slot.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He went all the way in on that one.
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Sonny's wishing it were called an HBP now.
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The angels love him. He's like eckstein.
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Tell me about it
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
I still hope you guys catch the Angels.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
there’s no way that’s happening. Not when Murton is hitting 4th.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt mind the Yankees taking 2 of 3 from the twins...
Then them and the Sox beating each other up this weekend
I predict Johan out-sucks Joe
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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Blake would not bat 8th.
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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomes would be gone before Aybar
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Wouldn't Blake take Gomes roster spot though?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Aybar as a CI replacement and an emergency 2B.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Neither is Zobrist or Hinske
But both have ran out there.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand it.
Unless they’re worried about his hamstrings.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Blake necessitates that one goes.
Aybar’s defense is better than Gomes and he’s more versatile.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
1B 18 3B 9 2B 3
For Aybar, so 30 field games and 7 DH.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
aybar
18 at first (Pena’s injury—anyone else play first?)
9 at 3B (pre-Longoria, right?)
3 at 2B (rare rest for Aki?)
doesn’t seem like he’s needed in the infield. and he’s not playing the outfield. and he’s not a better hitter than Gomes.
Hinske can play first
Aybar just got a start this past weekend at 3B while Evan played DH. Only 2B when Aki was suspended.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you
guys not have a run up yet. If you don’t score at least 1 this game will never end, cause the A’s sure as heck aren’t going to score any!
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Nah
Eventually the A’s will have to face Gary Glover, and we’ll blow it in the 26th inning
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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
KK!!
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Don't make me box you for racism.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
You guys still
interested in Street. What would you be willing to give up.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Would you guys
be willing to part with Joel Guzman as one of the prospects.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why
so down on him?
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
do you think we can get Dan Johnson back, lol.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What about
Brignac and Rollins and maybe Guzman am I just dreaming now. What if it was Street and Murton.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Brignac/Rollins/Guzman for both?
I’d do it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That deal would get it done
from our perspective.
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Honestly
I don’t think that’s ridiculous. Brignac is definitely the centerpiece there. Rollins has some projection, but not a high ceiling. Guzman practically has negative value at this point.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Ok here's a better question.
Who are the prospects other than David Price that are deemed untouchable?
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure we have any that are untouchable outside of him
Hellickson/Davis are the closest we have to that, and even then I’d trade one of them, depending on the deal.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody
But obviously there’s a progression (not including recent draftees who can’t get traded yet)
Price >>> Davis / Hellickson >> Brignac / Jennings / McGee >> Niemann / Jaso / Perez / Rollins, etc.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
So is
Hellickson, Brignac, Rollins, Guzman possible. Personally I feel that would be fair. Street is still young and has pitched in big games, and Murton would be nice to have. He can hit lefties pretty well, I know how much you guys struggle against those LHP’s.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
To much
Hellickson will not be part of a Street deal. I could see a Brignac/Niemann deal. That would be a really nice haul for Beane.
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I wouldn't mind Niemann
alright thanks for the input guys, I appreciate the feedback, let’s hope the A’s can pull this one out, jk. I’ll be back when you trade for Street, here’s hoping Hellickson is included, haha.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He is not injured
but his velocity has been down. I think it’s just a minor slump honestly. Imagine having Street and Percival, games would be over after the 7th if you ask me.
Fremont here we come!
by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Howell/Wheeler/Percival/Street
That’s just nasty.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus Balfour Plus Howell. Game over after the 5th.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
my faith: street, howell, wheeler/balfour, percival
balfour keeps moving up with every inning, though.
Maybe thats why.
A’s announcers said it was a change and I couldn’t disagree since it didn’t seem to have much lateral movement.
Sonny can strike out hitters
which is more than we can say for jackson’s waste of a roatation spot.
The K rates are equal, it's the walk rates that make the difference.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
can you name a better 4/5 though?
And Jackson is probably just keeping warm for Price just as Sonny is doing for Davis come next year.
Or just the hard contact rates in general
Have you ever noticed that pitchers with lower velocities tend to have DIPS relative to ERA?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Well, I'm sure someone could run a study
but I’m too lazy to do so. It’s just something I’ve noticed. Same how knuckleballers have lower hit rates than luck should dictate. Excessively slow righties seem to have higher hit rates than luck should dictate, or at least seem to have higher XBHA%.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Sonny's FB is also 10 mph less than jacksons
Jackson’s results are unacceptable
Atleast I didn't make a Street rumor. Lol.
by Cory Alexander on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You're lucky I don't want to abuse the box on my first day
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Ugh need to get back to work. This immediate post format will be the death of me.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
He's like a baby Hinske between the facial hair and music.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They never call balks anymore
He didn’t even bother to step toward first.
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YOU SUCK SO GOD DAMNED MUCH CC. DL GOD DAMNED MUCH.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
you suck Carl
however Murton has a nice arm. Have we gotten him and Street yet? I was hoping they just forgot to switch jerseys.
That was awful....
You dont throw away outs like that…
Magrane would rip GOmes if he did that...
Lets see if he gets on CC
He won't.
Carl is immune from anyone in the Rays media’s wrath.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even a comment yet? That is ridiculous
Should have had 2 men oin with the 6-hole hitter up, and CC shits the bed…WHAT IF UPTON HAD DONE THAT????
He doesn't want to hate on Upton
He’s pointing out the double standard.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We both know what would happen if B.J. or Gomes would've done that.
Carl has became everything we hated in Delmon as a baseball player.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Magrane and Statts
But how they dont even bring up that baserunning error is betond me…
I'm not feeling good about this inning...
That was a momentum changer
I'm not sure he sees Durham
If he does, it’ll only be for a week.
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I don't know
It depends. He’d reach what I’d think his innings limit at the end of September if he continues every 5 days at the end of September. So they might want to make him a reliever so they wouldn’t have to worry about him during the playoffs. We need him soon and he could improve our pen or our rotation. If I was betting, I’d put my money on him going to the pen Joba style.
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That's what I was thinking...
Does he replace Hammel? Or do they wait for expanded rosters?
If they wait for September he's not eligible for the post-season roster.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt know that...
What is the reasoning for that?
So you don't wait for the expanded roster
And that rule is exceptionally easy to get around. All you have to do is have someone go on the DL and you can say he’s added in his place. The Angels did this with K-Rod in 01’ when they won the WS.
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Ahhh...
What players can come up, and who cant when rosters are expanded?
what sucks even more
is he lost to the Tribe’s offense and is right now losing to the A’s who bat Matt Murton clean up.
ugh.
Lets see how he finishes up before we criticize...
3 more scoreless innings and it is a quality start…
Can we get our heads out of our backsides please?
3 run home runs and poor baserunning…not gonna win any game this way
by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
we beat ourselves too often
we don’t actually lose to the other team too often. that’s why this gets so frustrating.
CC has a vertical leap of 1 foot
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
I thought we lowered the wall
so he could rob home runs!
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That reminds me of his shit bunt attempts
Any athletic guy like him should be able to learn how to bunt and approach a wall
I thought that guy was supposed to be teh suck fielding
and made Guzman look like he put in full effort.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Sometimes the bigs makes you play harder
This was the knock on Hanley too.
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I also imagined
CarGo as fatter. I don’t know why, maybe they were bad pictures combined with the lazy knock made him fat in my mind.
Your mind can play tricks on you. Brick will always look like Wes Bankston to me.
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NO HE WAS NOT DUE YOU FUCKERS
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
NOBODY IS EVER REALLY DUE
EXCEPT BABIES.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That half inning isn't something he can do anything about
Zobrist is a holder and Aki, B.J., Carl are mainstays.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I ask myself: Is CC really that bad?
Then I see ABs like that.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Sweet
We get the lead-off man on in FIVE consecutive innings and we have scored 1 run.
Awesome…
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He wasn't watching Kaz last night.
You’ve got to put down the cheeseburger while fielding
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He's went downhill this season in every way imaginable
It’s disappointing because having last year’s Carl with this team would be fun.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is, i want a bat, but i don't want to give up Hellickson, Davis, or Price under any circumstances...
can i have my cake and eat it too?
9 = 8
Niemman + Brignac should net something good
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Depends, will adding a Blake type suffice you?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Willits
Career GPA: .262
Blake’s this year: .279
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering our offense against lefties
Any offensive production vs. LHP would be a plus
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When you think about it...
The only little outvurst the Rays have had lately is when they had all those shitty hits against Halladay, and one HR
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7742/splits;_ylt=AkkppBWyPyRDMJM55YElbTeFCLcF?year=career&type=Batting
9 = 8
This off-season they might consider trading him.
Not speaking on just this season either. His value is probably higher to some other teams (Giants let’s say) than to us. Of course that was when we had someone ready to take his place, the only way it would work now is:
LF: Hinske
CF: Upton
RF: Ruggiano/Gross
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather trade him now for Holliday...
Holliday only has one less year under control, and is far better
I think Bay could be re-signed
I’m really weary on any Boras client, but that’s an email/AIM story to tell.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions