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7/22: OAK (51-48) at RAYS (58-40)

Oakland Athletics at Tampa Bay Rays, Jul 22, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


Oakland at RAYS

7:10; RAYS TV/ION
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
OAK LH D. Braden
15.0 4.80 80 7.20 4.80 1.50 0.60 .804 1.60 0.67 16.73
RAYS RH A. Sonnanst.
114.0 4.58 90 5.45 1.58 3.45 0.87 .790 1.37 1.10 15.10

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I’m gonna do it till it works…

by rglass44 on Jul 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MVP: Longo

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want you all to look at the very bottom of this page, and be very, very afraid.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Congrats

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jul 22, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Magically

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't make me break out the chinchilla Sturton pic.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember chinchilla Bonds.

I don’t remember chinchilla Sturton. Besides, that doesn’t have the same disturbance factor.

by kericr on Jul 22, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once you see it

you will be DISTURBED.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jul 22, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how did this occur?

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BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jul 22, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or he just gave Pat a lil

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Jul 22, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little of both

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about last night

it’s hard to win without talent.

Mike Cameron recorded 485 putouts in 2003.

by JI on Jul 22, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Yankees think so.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't be watching tonight

My Mets friend went to me to the Rays game on Friday, I owe him in watching the Mets/Phillies opener tonight. That’s going to be an interesting series.

by kericr on Jul 22, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They can have Gomer and Hammel

Call it a day

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 22, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely..

could you imagine? A closed door pregame, quick handshake of a trade…

by mrichardkent on Jul 22, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...>Sonny walk?

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edwin?

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brighthouse 719

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When in doubt, get some rabbit ears

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whew

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

K!

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braden is walking 4.80 per 9, while Striking out 7.20 per 9

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And I'm pretty sure he doesn't throw

his screwball anymore. It hurt his arm to much.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about a Christi?

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Austin Jackson?

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could use him

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

El Paso Smith

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 22, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Austin Kearns

I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.

by esoteric on Jul 22, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMPATIENCE = BASE HITS

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're making him work

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EJECT EJECT EJECT

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He went all the way in on that one.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sonny's wishing it were called an HBP now.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C-Pain!

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They suck!

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

there’s no way that’s happening. Not when Murton is hitting 4th.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fucking murton

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joe Blanton against Johan tonight

whichever way that one goes, it’ll be the big story tomorrow

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I predict Johan out-sucks Joe

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blake would not bat 8th.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gomes would be gone before Aybar

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Aybar as a CI replacement and an emergency 2B.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blake necessitates that one goes.

Aybar’s defense is better than Gomes and he’s more versatile.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1B 18 3B 9 2B 3

For Aybar, so 30 field games and 7 DH.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aybar

18 at first (Pena’s injury—anyone else play first?)
9 at 3B (pre-Longoria, right?)
3 at 2B (rare rest for Aki?)

doesn’t seem like he’s needed in the infield. and he’s not playing the outfield. and he’s not a better hitter than Gomes.

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hinske can play first

Aybar just got a start this past weekend at 3B while Evan played DH. Only 2B when Aki was suspended.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BADCALLBADCALL

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How do you

guys not have a run up yet. If you don’t score at least 1 this game will never end, cause the A’s sure as heck aren’t going to score any!

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LHP.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Eventually the A’s will have to face Gary Glover, and we’ll blow it in the 26th inning

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KK!!

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't make me box you for racism.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys still

interested in Street. What would you be willing to give up.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would you guys

be willing to part with Joel Guzman as one of the prospects.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

yeah. we would be. promise.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, take him.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

so down on him?

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he can't hit and he can't field

And he has bad breath

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can hit lefites

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God

I remember how stoked we all were when the Rays got him for Lugo.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

do you think we can get Dan Johnson back, lol.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about

Brignac and Rollins and maybe Guzman am I just dreaming now. What if it was Street and Murton.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That deal would get it done

from our perspective.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I don’t think that’s ridiculous. Brignac is definitely the centerpiece there. Rollins has some projection, but not a high ceiling. Guzman practically has negative value at this point.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok here's a better question.

Who are the prospects other than David Price that are deemed untouchable?

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis, Hellickson

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure we have any that are untouchable outside of him

Hellickson/Davis are the closest we have to that, and even then I’d trade one of them, depending on the deal.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody

But obviously there’s a progression (not including recent draftees who can’t get traded yet)

Price >>> Davis / Hellickson >> Brignac / Jennings / McGee >> Niemann / Jaso / Perez / Rollins, etc.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is

Hellickson, Brignac, Rollins, Guzman possible. Personally I feel that would be fair. Street is still young and has pitched in big games, and Murton would be nice to have. He can hit lefties pretty well, I know how much you guys struggle against those LHP’s.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To much

Hellickson will not be part of a Street deal. I could see a Brignac/Niemann deal. That would be a really nice haul for Beane.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind Niemann

alright thanks for the input guys, I appreciate the feedback, let’s hope the A’s can pull this one out, jk. I’ll be back when you trade for Street, here’s hoping Hellickson is included, haha.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is not injured

but his velocity has been down. I think it’s just a minor slump honestly. Imagine having Street and Percival, games would be over after the 7th if you ask me.

Fremont here we come!

by In Beane we trust on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus Balfour Plus Howell. Game over after the 5th.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my faith: street, howell, wheeler/balfour, percival

balfour keeps moving up with every inning, though.

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hot damn

I haven’t seen his changeup look that good before.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe thats why.

A’s announcers said it was a change and I couldn’t disagree since it didn’t seem to have much lateral movement.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sonny can strike out hitters

which is more than we can say for jackson’s waste of a roatation spot.

by hibachi7_7_7 on Jul 22, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or the hit rates

I’m still not convinced the difference is luck.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you name a better 4/5 though?

And Jackson is probably just keeping warm for Price just as Sonny is doing for Davis come next year.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

and I still like them both.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same

couldn’t be happier with either, really.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or just the hard contact rates in general

Have you ever noticed that pitchers with lower velocities tend to have DIPS relative to ERA?

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm sure someone could run a study

but I’m too lazy to do so. It’s just something I’ve noticed. Same how knuckleballers have lower hit rates than luck should dictate. Excessively slow righties seem to have higher hit rates than luck should dictate, or at least seem to have higher XBHA%.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even notice

Sonny is K’ing more per 9 than Jackson…

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh need to get back to work. This immediate post format will be the death of me.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf street.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Er. Wtf crawford*

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They never call balks anymore

He didn’t even bother to step toward first.

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases juiced for C-Pain.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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by Orlando Rays on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YOU SUCK SO GOD DAMNED MUCH CC. DL GOD DAMNED MUCH.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DL = So

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you suck Carl

however Murton has a nice arm. Have we gotten him and Street yet? I was hoping they just forgot to switch jerseys.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was awful....

You dont throw away outs like that…

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He won't.

Carl is immune from anyone in the Rays media’s wrath.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not even a comment yet? That is ridiculous

Should have had 2 men oin with the 6-hole hitter up, and CC shits the bed…WHAT IF UPTON HAD DONE THAT????

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he didn't

and why do you wanna hate Upton so much?

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad dude

i gotta stop with this Vicodin

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't want to hate on Upton

He’s pointing out the double standard.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We both know what would happen if B.J. or Gomes would've done that.

Carl has became everything we hated in Delmon as a baseball player.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Magrane and Statts

But how they dont even bring up that baserunning error is betond me…

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

O

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure he sees Durham

If he does, it’ll only be for a week.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

It depends. He’d reach what I’d think his innings limit at the end of September if he continues every 5 days at the end of September. So they might want to make him a reliever so they wouldn’t have to worry about him during the playoffs. We need him soon and he could improve our pen or our rotation. If I was betting, I’d put my money on him going to the pen Joba style.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking...

Does he replace Hammel? Or do they wait for expanded rosters?

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt know that...

What is the reasoning for that?

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you don't wait for the expanded roster

And that rule is exceptionally easy to get around. All you have to do is have someone go on the DL and you can say he’s added in his place. The Angels did this with K-Rod in 01’ when they won the WS.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMMIT SONNY

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what sucks even more

is he lost to the Tribe’s offense and is right now losing to the A’s who bat Matt Murton clean up.

ugh.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That BB/9 is climbing.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

QUALITY AB AYBAR!

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTFNAVI

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good grief at the team split

OPS over 1.000 with three balls, under .600 with two strikes.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

everyone's like that

3 balls includes all walks, and every strike at 2-strikes is an out.

by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we get our heads out of our backsides please?

3 run home runs and poor baserunning…not gonna win any game this way

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we beat ourselves too often

we don’t actually lose to the other team too often. that’s why this gets so frustrating.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CC has a vertical leap of 1 foot

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JESUS%

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GONZALES YOU WHORE

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought that guy was supposed to be teh suck fielding

and made Guzman look like he put in full effort.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes the bigs makes you play harder

This was the knock on Hanley too.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also imagined

CarGo as fatter. I don’t know why, maybe they were bad pictures combined with the lazy knock made him fat in my mind.

Your mind can play tricks on you. Brick will always look like Wes Bankston to me.

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by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO HE WAS NOT DUE YOU FUCKERS

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes I ask myself: Is CC really that bad?

Then I see ABs like that.

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by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

We get the lead-off man on in FIVE consecutive innings and we have scored 1 run.

Awesome…

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't watching Kaz last night.

You’ve got to put down the cheeseburger while fielding

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Things!

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC

3 AB’s; 4 pitches seen.

I’m a little late with it, but that really is unacceptable.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's went downhill this season in every way imaginable

It’s disappointing because having last year’s Carl with this team would be fun.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or any version of CC before this year

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niemman + Brignac should net something good

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Navi is good at hitting

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When you think about it...

The only little outvurst the Rays have had lately is when they had all those shitty hits against Halladay, and one HR

by td32 on Jul 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This off-season they might consider trading him.

Not speaking on just this season either. His value is probably higher to some other teams (Giants let’s say) than to us. Of course that was when we had someone ready to take his place, the only way it would work now is:

LF: Hinske
CF: Upton
RF: Ruggiano/Gross

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aki!

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sexy DP

time to get these runs back

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GLORIOUS JAPANESE BASTARD

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LUK GUYZ!

RHP!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only one pitch from a shut-out

Even if Sonny doesn’t come back out, nice quality start for Sonny.

by raysfaninminnesota on Jul 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller is up

I don’t think his ERA is 0…..

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn Upton

You gotta start getting XBH soon.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 22, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god Miller sucks

bring anyone in, this guy just gives up runs

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOU MILLER

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUck glover, miller sucks worse

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i was just gonna say

i think i miss Glover

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By my count

Miller has retired 1 out of his last 9 hitters.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He has a small strike zone

Being all decayed and all.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take that back

Would have been tougher to get out when he was alive. Not that much space between the letters and the knees there.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jul 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

w00t

Reyes…

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sooooooo

Can I has a Street/Murton deal, nao?

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey Miller, did you see that?

its called an out and pitchers try to get them.

The more you know.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so

either we make a sick comeback or we have to hope the Mariners win…..

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off to work

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by JMB on Jul 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Al at 86 is not good

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just ugly baseball

Brignac could be hurt also. Would be another blue chip prospect injured for us.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not hurt

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brignac was ejected

Johnny let his baby brother sleep, through the back door and baseball, all the kids are waiting outside, Old days come and go too soon Old friends, heroes, lifetimes. Don't let a single memory fade away

by LeftRight on Jul 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, you don't see that everyday

What for?

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jul 22, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per the Durham recap:

Brandon Watson singles on a ground ball to shortstop Reid Brignac. Jason Jaramillo to 3rd. T. Bohn to 2nd.
Durham Bulls shortstop Reid Brignac ejected by 3B umpire Andrew Vincent.
Defensive switch from second base to shortstop for Elliot Johnson.
Defensive Substitution: Andy Cannizaro replaces shortstop Reid Brignac, batting 8th, playing second base.

Johnny let his baby brother sleep, through the back door and baseball, all the kids are waiting outside, Old days come and go too soon Old friends, heroes, lifetimes. Don't let a single memory fade away

by LeftRight on Jul 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

too many close plays at 1B

and we have been out on everyone of them

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i figured it out

all we gotta do is clone Evan 9 times and we are golden

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is ridiculous

I don’t understand how none of the problems that have emerged in the game have been addressed at an earlier time. Crawford does not hit with the patience or consistent power to hit third. The line-up is so left-handed that we are completely crippled against average to below average left-handed starters. We continue to play hitters based solely on the fact that they hit with the opposite hand as the pitcher that we forget that they can’t hit – period. Trust me, I hit right-handed but you don’t want to see me up there instead of Hinske. Why would Gabe Gross be your first pinch hitter off the bench? Because he is going in as a defensive replacement? It’s the seventh inning- pinch hit floyd or hinske and throw gross into the field for them – this isn’t the national league – you do not have to save pinch hitters. The team would be far better off if Longoria played shortstop while bartlett is out and aybar played third. Zobrist is a liability offensively and defensively. Trevor Miller cannot throw strikes and even his outs come on fastballs down the middle. Al Reyes is done and has one pitch which must be out of the strike zone for it to be effective. The Rays are in a unique position at this point in the season – leading the American League East. Subpar play that has lasted the entire year cannot be tolerated for the sake of “chemistry.” Gomes is supposedly a bat off the bench and he is hitting under .200. Obviously all of these needs cannot be addressed but something has to be done. We can’t just close our eyes and wake up in September still in the American League playoff race.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

We’re definitely not fielding the best possible 25-man roster. And when guys who are obviously not going to be on the team next year are underachieving (Miller, Reyes, Glover, Floyd) yet still maintaining a roster spot it can get unbearable at times, regardless of our position in the standings.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so now that i'm done venting

what are the chances some sort of trade goes through tomorrow that gains us a reliever and a right handed bat, reyes goes on the dl and salas is brought up?

by FanDisplaced on Jul 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just to make matters worse

rauch got traded today straight up for a minor league second baseman…. and that was it. A legit reliever under control through 2010. For one minor leaguer. I think we could have made that move. Oh – and nice play zobrist. I don’t care if they gave suzuki a hit. you are a bum. You should get autographs from everyone on your team and the opposing team because it is a miracle you are even in the stadium.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we look like the old rays too often lately

come on Friedman, be the genius you are and get us some help.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if only we can do all of this....

Have Salas replace Reyes
Dan Johnson replace Floyd
Get Bartlett back and demote Zobrist to Princeton or Hudson Valley or something
Replace Miller with Niemann…..not like Miller is a lefty specialist anyway, hes garbage

or make some trades, we have too many players that don’t play on a playoff team.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Close

only I would replace Dan Johnson with Ruggiano.

by Vin on Jul 22, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

works for me

and Price would be there instead of Niemann but in a month, this is what I would do today.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree with most

Salas for Reyes, Johnson for Floyd, ruggiano for gomes, zobrist to hell or princeton, Glover can grab a ride with zobrist, miller for neiman or houser, and stop pinch hitting gross

by FanDisplaced on Jul 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WRONG JERSEY

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can't believe they are throwing him now

we may need him to pitch for us tomorrow

by FanDisplaced on Jul 22, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

showcase

a man can dream.

or maybe not? come on Friedman, be a genius again.

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man just imagine

all those times Maddon thinks he should bring in Reyes, its Huston Street instead. Oh how nice it would be….

by joeybw on Jul 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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