The Ruggiano and Dan Johnson petition
I have been driving the bandwagon for these two all season now- I know at this site, if you are going to get your voice heard, you gotta come correct. So I am going to try and do that here to the best of my ability...
Here is what I do know:
The Rays are getting below-average production from the DH position, and we cannot seem to find a full time RFer. We all agree Hinske and Gross and Gomes have done a fair job, but no one has taken the job outright. Normally, I have agreed that keeping Ruggs at AAA is only going to make him better in the long run, with that said, The slump the Rays are in doesn't seem to be going away. I tihnk Ruggs is a solid addition as the FULL TIME RF for the following reasons
his career minor league line goes: .305avg /.392obp/.505slg=.897OPS
This season he is destroying lefties (.983 ops) a weakness on the current constructed roster, he hits righties fairly this season and has better success in career numbers vs. righties than he does this season. Plays a solid RF with a just above average arm and good wheels.
His PECOTA has Jason Bay as a "lookalike" (this is before Bay got shabby knees, and Ruggs has a way better arm) Ruggs does K a lot, but has good plate discipline, and had an epic at-bat to hit his first ML homerun against Houston in June.
I believe the Rays should bring up Ruggs to replace Gomes or Aybar on current roster.
Dan Johnson is another player I'd like to see. He used to be pretty high on all the propect lists when he was a few years younger back in Oakland, Injuries and slumps killed his prospect status, and the A's let him go. Friedman smartly picked up Johnson, and we were damn lucky to keep him as he slid through waivers when we DFA'd him in April-
Currently Johnson is going at a line of: .301/.424!!!/.551/.924- he has 20 HR which I believe is most on our system at this point, has 58 walks to 55 k's, and can play 1b and the corner OF slots (he has in Durham played the OF) his OPS is over 900 vs lefties and righties this season...in other words he is destroying AAA pitching and at this moment right now is better served to be in the Rays lineup than Pena or Floyd. We are financially obligated to Pena for a while and will have to deal with his struggles, but Floyd is old, kills us when on base by being slow, has NO positional flexibility at all, and is having a fair to average season for a man his age...
Johnson's career minor league line is:
.299/.391!!!/.522/.913 his major league numbers fail compared to that, but i believe his sample size is too small to say he is a AAAA player just yet
In closing if I were GM for a minute, my lineup tomorrow would go-
1. Iwamura-2b (L)
2. Upton-CF (R)
3. D. Johnson-DH (L)
4. Longoria-3b (R)
5. Pena-1b (L)
6. Ruggiano or Hinske (R) flip a coin
7. Crawford-LF (L)
8. Navarro-C (S)
9. Bartlett-SS (R)
I truly believe they both could make a difference right now, and will continue to update on thier progress on this post every day
Thu 7/25
Both of them went 1 for 3 with a double---DJ struck out once
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Not sure which Pecota Card you are using
But Ruggiano’s 90th Percentile Forecast (most optimistic) is roughly equivalent to Bay’s 50th Percentile Forecast, which means only in a VERY unlikely scenario does Ruggs match Bay’s production.
by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 AM EDT 0 recs
And made even less likely by the fact Bay is performing above his 75th percentile forecast.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jul 25, 2008 2:33 AM EDT
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im in favor with promoting ruggiano but not johnson
johnson hasnt really done all that much in the majors and looks like a AAAA player to me, but i still cant explain to anyone why ruggiano is down in the minors right now, maybe they are letting him rehab right now since he was just on the DL like 2 weeks ago and they should promote him and rocco and dump gomes and floyd and have a RF of ruggiano/gross and an DH platoon of Hinske/Baldelli. floyd looks washed up and gomes is just not getting the job done and rocco cant do worse than gomes can he? also ruggiano/gross would be really good with ruggiano getting the majority of the starts since he hits better for average, but we could use gross’s power and clutchness every once in a while lol
by RaysOfHope on Jul 25, 2008 3:10 AM EDT 0 recs
Ruggiano's BABIP
is .402 at the moment. So you’re talking about a guy who’s hitting a fluky .299/.360/.492 in triple-A.
Could that guy be an okay major leaguer? Probably. Is he definitely going to be an upgrade over the current RF options? Not necessarily.
by Peter Bendix on
Jul 25, 2008 9:58 AM EDT
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how fluky is it
when it goes along with career line? Yes that is a high BABIP, and he may regress some, but you can’t say that he won’t sustain….
by Hazleton Jason on
Jul 25, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
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Dan Johnson
Why even sign this guy if they do not call him up when Peña went on the DL?
RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting
by ttnorm on Jul 25, 2008 8:50 AM EDT 0 recs
Because the Rays were not going to keep him on the roster after-
They didn’t want to risk DFA’ing him a 2nd time if he killed the ball in MLB-
I think they are stashing him for next season, when Gomes, Floyd, and Hinske should all be gone-
by Hazleton Jason on
Jul 25, 2008 9:36 AM EDT
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Why would they DFA him if he raked?
RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting
by ttnorm on
Jul 25, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
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Ugh to Durham
People seem to have very short memories when it comes to people tearing it up in Durham. Jonny Gomes tears it up in Durham every time he’s there. Kevin Witt tore it up in Durham. Pete LaForest tore it up in Durham. Just because someone does well in Durham, it doesn’t mean it will translate to the majors.
I agree that Ruggiano should be up, but I’m not sure that calling up Johnson would do anything other than kill our positional flexibility on the bench.
In any case, it’s nothing I feel strongly enough about to petit for.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Jul 25, 2008 10:25 AM EDT 0 recs
It's almost like Durham is a hitter's park that has a huge wall in left that righties take advantage of, or something.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jul 25, 2008 11:12 AM EDT
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Ruggs away line is .272/.348/.386/.734
I can see your point about DBAP, as Ruggs hasn’t been all that away from home- Good point RJ…
DJ has been equally lethal at home and on road, with road numbers slightly worse, but has a .400OBP at home or on the road-
by Hazleton Jason on
Jul 25, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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I wasn't necessarily speaking of these two when I made my comment.
by R.J. Anderson on
Jul 25, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
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I thought you were, but it does make some sense, I’d be curious to see Ruggs career line on the road, that I couldn’t find…
by Hazleton Jason on
Jul 25, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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He gives us more positional flexability than...
Floyd who has none, and I’‘m sure could play the OF as good as Gomes or Hinske-
by Hazleton Jason on
Jul 25, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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I don’t see any problem with using Durham as a measuring stick to future performance. Gomes has a career 108 OPS+. Jorge Cantu and Matt Diaz were also overlooked right-handed hitting prospects who tore up Durham and both managed to carve out major league careers and it’s definitely not because of their glovework.
LaForest has never hit for a decent average (including Durham) and never got much of a chance regardless due to being a poor catcher and often injured. Kevin Witt.. who cares.
I don’t see why Ruggiano or Johnson wouldn’t translate to useful major leaguers as Johnson’s own major league track record shows. Their fit on the current roster and possibility of improvement over Jonny Gomes or Cliff Floyd are much more pertinent and problematic. As such, we’ll see both only in September.
Longlorious.
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by RATW on
Jul 25, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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Floyd is liability #1
Signing him and not Bonds could end up being the difference between a world series and playing golf when other teams are playing game #163.
by matthan on Jul 25, 2008 12:15 PM EDT 0 recs
or not
RJ is not an elitist douchebag who hates scouting
by ttnorm on Jul 25, 2008 7:16 PM EDT 0 recs
I think we should of signed Bonds rather then Floyd. I really like both players but they are on opposite ends of the spectrum concerning talent. Bons is a on base machine and floyd rarely walks.
Devil Rays World Series 2009
by Japhei on Jul 25, 2008 8:38 PM EDT 0 recs
For his career Floyd has walked 1 every 6 PA's
I agree that Bonds makes him look bad in comparison (as he does almost every player in the history of baseball), but Floyd has shown ample plate discipline throughout his career, and this year is no exception.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Jul 25, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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