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Tampa Bay Rays at Toronto Blue Jays, Jul 29, 2008 7:07 PM EDT


RAYS at Toronto

7:07; FSN Florida
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


 IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
RAYS RH M. Garza
 115.0 3.83
 109 5.87 2.90 2.03 0.86 .673 1.25 1.04 16.23
TOR RH R. Halladay
 159.1 2.82 146 7.51 1.41 5.32 0.62 .614 1.04 2.17 14.23

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This is MVP: Garza

by rglass44 on Jul 29, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was also tempted to ask that

But I figured it was Rutgers thing and my puny USF mind wouldn’t understand it.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LATE REPLY

I just did a google image search for baseball bat and picked that one.

by Kevin Gengler on Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MVP: GARZA

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tonight the Rays turn the corner

and get hits with RISP against Halladay!!!

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we have to get RISP first

that may be tough tonight.

MVP: Longo

by Dbullsfan on Jul 29, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement if they resign him

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say it's fair

Cotchman is decent offensively and is under team control until 2012. The pitcher they gave up is decent at best, and they’re going to get 2 picks if they don’t resign Teix which makes it a pretty good deal if they let him go. The Angels have the ability to sign him though, so to me it looks like they gave all of that up to get early negotating rights, and in that instance, it’s an average deal.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman is CC without Outfield and SB.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also doesn't walk,

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck
Maddon said Baldelli wouldn’t need to move up first to Triple-A Durham. “He would come here whenever that moment is” and get readjusted to major-league pitching, Maddon said.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HERE WE GO AGAIN

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what the worst part of this statement is?

I remember a certain someone declaring openly and outright that Baldelli would be up in the Bigs before Price, and how everyone and their mother told him that he was wrong, and an idiot.

And now he’s also going to be something else: right.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't an outrageous statement.

I cannot believe we’re going to risk Baldelli’s sub-10 minor league LD% at the major league level. That’s amazing…

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the time the statement was made

Baldelli was in the middle of his first rehab assignment, and was not doing well at all when the statement was made.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why it wasn't an outrageous statement to say Price would be up before Rocco.

Perhaps the better question is who will contribute first: Rocco or Price?

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

No, I thought you were saying that it wasn’t an outrageous statement for Sternfan to say that Rocco would be up before Price.

No, I agree with you. I was with the masses. If Rocco gets promoted before Price, it is solely a PR/inspiration move.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

RISP…now a hit

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Allright!

A runner in scoring position that the Rays can strand! And it’s only the 1st inning!

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking stupid 2 out hits

STOP WAITING UNTIL THERE ARE TWO OUTS TO PUT A MAN ON BASE.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HERE WE GO AGAIN

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

100%

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by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But we'll score like 5 runs in the 6th, so its cool

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by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes the no-no

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much

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by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are

Line Drives are so 1980s. Home Runs are the new black.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yayyyyyyy DP

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by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOO

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BUNTING = WINS

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, bunting for basehits

If done properly, certainly can. It’s the sacrifice bunt that im not keen on

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this statement.

Carl Crawford should be able to bunt for a hit. I agree with the statistical analysis people that sac bunting is detrimental, however there is use for it in late innings, i believe.

ESPN -- The Red Sox Network

by St Pete Native on Jul 29, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the angels trade kotchman and minor league player to braves for mark texeria

by RAYS44 on Jul 29, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Late

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why cant the rays step up their trade game…i dont care what anybody says….baldelli is not going to cut it!

by RAYS44 on Jul 29, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but the rays wont bite the bullet… make a trade already!

by RAYS44 on Jul 29, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They had scouts at a Rangers/M's game

I’m sure they have a few offers out.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what hurts more

The fact we havent done anything or seeing so many deals go down that I feel we could’ve beaten without sacrificing the future.

It will be interesting to here the behind the scenes antecdotes after the deadline

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda like Mitch Talbot and Fernando Perez for Nady and Marte

just saying, prolly could have happened and I for one wouldn’t have felt like we gave up too much

by Dbullsfan on Jul 29, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yanks offer beat that

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets not make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.

At this point the last one out there I wanted was Tex … possibly Bay if Pitt is still looking to deal him

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

no jose guillen for me thank you

by Rays Rule on Jul 29, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

As lousy as I feel about missing out on Nady and Tex, I’d prefer they stand pat at this point. Their offense isnt THIS bad.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do to…im just ready for something to happen, i feel we are passing up ON AWESOME help
for cheap

by RAYS44 on Jul 29, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tons of people we don't know about. like Mr. Adam Dunn.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What it a saber team?

Because we definitely don’t fit the mold of the 2002 A’s. We are built on pitching and defense.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're mistaking saber teams are purely OBP teams

Teams that use sabermetric analysis heavily are primarily the A’s, Padres, Indians, Rays, Red Sox, ect.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Blue Jays?

I seem to remember hearing about a little trade those teams pulled off this past offseason?

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jays aren't a saber team

They were when Law was there, but Ricciardi has always been a scout and a scouting type.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He prefers looking at tools over numbers

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because he has fallen out of favor with sabermetricians

Doesnt mean you get to revise history and say ‘I never knew you’

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, nobody is revising history.

Keith Law WAS his stats guy, once Law left they backed away from it. Look at the men Ricciardi is surrounded by, all scout types.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, yeah you are

And how much of his hiring decisions are an attempt to create a new identity for himself independent of ‘Sabermetric GM’ is open to question…esp after he saw the way Depo was run out of LA

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riccardi’s first order of business was firing all the scouts and bringing in his own guys, with little knowledge of the game, but guys that were serious number and stat analysts. The results haven’t been pretty.

http://blog.aroundsports360.com/2008/03/27/riccardis-last-chance.aspx

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Law joined 2002, resigned in 2006

Take a look at the differences between then and 2007-now.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I'm not

WITH Law they were very much into stats, but as Law went so did the statistical dependence. I’m not sure how that’s revisionist history whatsoever.

Also check out Oakland’s defensive rank, I believe it’s first, which is what started this whole “debate”.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand Sabermetrics has moved past OBP

The new market inneficiency is finding players who can’t hit, and trading your most valuable players for them.

OK, thats not fair…but neither is suggesting that Kevin Towers is a saber guy and Riccardi isn’t

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll have to disagree about

The Jays philosophies. They aren’t commonly mentioned to me as a team that is dabbling in stats anymore by scouts. 6-7 teams are: ARZ, BOS, SD, PIT (somewhat), TB, OAK, and CLE.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One since the real fallout of the Mulder deal

Which sparked the distaste.

I’m just telling you what I’ve been told by folks around the industry.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2, 3 if you count TOR

between 20-30%...He may say he won’t deal, but his record doesnt indicate it…Methinks he will never again deal with BEANE, but thats different than saying he hates ‘saber people’

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thanks

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If available, sure!!!

But I doubt he’s available without killing the farm.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its pretty telling

That Roberts is still an Oriole. Angelos would ask for waaaay more than he is worth.

by GomesSweetGomes on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The unexpected move

for a young team in 1st place being chased by the Red Sox and Yankees…is to do nothing.

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed Which is why he would be a project trade,

The upside could be huge if he pans out. If you only give up a Zobrist or a Brignac for him then you have really lost or gained nothing. You make Francoeur finish out the year at AAA and re-evaluate in Spring Training. If it works you could end up with a permanent RF.

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

S

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

T

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

R

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

E

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

E

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

T

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DP!

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate this stupid car commerical

Home teams do not bat in the 9th if they have the lead in a game.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

Home run!

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!!!!

HUSTLE!!!!

by Vin on Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BARTY

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Job Upton

I’m getting really fucking sick of watching him do that.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understatement

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replay is showing that it was a regular HR

The Umps blew the call, but the Jays also showed no hustle and f-d up any chance to keep that run off the board.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Ball was out anyways

BJ sucks ass taking close pitches …. fucking foul it off dumbass

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter

He’s taking way too many 2 strike pitches, balls or strikes. If you’ve got 2 strikes in the count and you don’t have three balls, you need to be fouling off anything that’s kinda close.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whether that ball from Hinske was gone or an inside-the-parker...

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FuckFuckFuck

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that stat someone posted the other day about

rays only scoring 8 times out of 50 or so when runner on 2b and no outs was amazingly aweful.

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Maddon is willing to blow a game to prove a point to Coco Crisp

Then he should be willing to blow a game by replacing positional players who fail to drive in runs when men are in scoring position with other players. This team needs a punch squarely in the balls, and they need it very soon.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Example

Upton struck out looking with 1 out and a man on 3rd. Gabe Gross comes out to play the rest of the game.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AL*

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean the AL

But that’s the point. The Rays would lose, but hopefully being a complete asshole might wake them up.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you play pitchers too.

The point is that if they don’t start producing, that extreme things will happen.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazing

only we can have a HR and triple off Halladay already and still look bad.

by joeybw on Jul 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CC Bunts well in MLB2k8 for me lol

If that translates over to real life he should be pretty ok lol

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he is a TERRIBLE bunter in The Show

seriously, i have to hack away like the real Crawford cuz guy can not bunt

by joeybw on Jul 29, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I missed Hinske's inside-the-park HR?

WTF? :(

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ball hit a black tarp(?) behind Rios and bounced back into play..

The Jays OF thought it was out so stopped playing. Umps didn’t call anything so Hinske just kept running. Later replay showed it was out.

by tallyray on Jul 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shitske and ???

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was ROTY as a Rookie

That has to be the most redundant statement I have ever heard a broadcaster make.

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

halladay isn't lookin so hot

but we still can’t get a hit

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STOP HITTING IT RIGHT AT PEOPLE!!!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently the Red Sox are talking to the Marlins about Manny

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait...what?

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way that happens

Manny will end up as a DH somewhere. I wouldnt mind having the Righty bat as our DH. But it is Manny, no way our Front office pays $20 mil for him, He will not end up with the Marlins because he can not play LF as it is. Add to that the huge field in Miami and you have a recipie for disaster if you make him the LF down there.

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 29, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know

It’s just funny to think that the Jays close enough distance to get back into contention while all three teams above them go on long losing streaks.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you watching this from Kaz's house?

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ CAUGHT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so lazy

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.750 OPS, .800 OPS, .700 OPS, .750 OPS

No improvements

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Johnson's Career, Ruggiano's track record, Fernando perez = Guess, Jaso = Guess

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAH!

EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE GLORY THAT IS JOHN JASO!

Really, you’ll be excited.

by Vin on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm talking about this year

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

youre*

I was originally going to say “Your noodle, I take it”

I miss edit button.

by Vin on Jul 29, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaso for greatest DH EVAR!

starting summer, ‘09.

by Vin on Jul 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CRIME DOG

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not while he was here.

The Rays were too busy being imbued with Jesus Power.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batshit insane

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's batshit insane.

He was just slapping himself walking to the dugout.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least...

He’s not threatening to kill his wife and kids

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rays vs. Jays

Setting offensive baseball back 40 years

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As long as Navarro stays at 1st, he can score

If he gets moved into scoring position, he’ll be stranded.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Navi:

There is not a hot dog waiting for you at 2nd base. There is a hot dog at home for you, but you have to get there safely.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not serious.

But it would have been better than that.

by tallyray on Jul 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

yes make the only person that’s had a decent hit today bunt

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

....FAILFAILFAILFAILFAIL

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF?!

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...way to execute the hit-and-run guys

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

did they just call a steal with navi? the slowest player on our team?

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

looked like a hit-and-run

I’d blame Hinske for not at least making contact

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya at least try to foul it off

don’t leave him hangin like that. i understand navi needs a running start to get to any base in a decent amount of time, but that was pretty bad.

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WE JUST FOUND NEW AND INTERESTING WAYS TO FAIL

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap.

While doing an image search for ‘epic fail’ I found this:

http://www.bradmcallister.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/1383171119_c83255308a_o.jpg

There is a reason why this is image linked.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I can’t explain it. I’m as baffled as you are.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really...

Guns and shields don’t mix.

by Vin on Jul 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a...

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is quite epic

she looks like she’s from World of Porncraft or something

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we're leading

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

REALLY?

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

offense still weak I see

by Hazleton Jason on Jul 29, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spitfire!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim Dierkes FTW

[Comment From TB Fan]
After all these years of waiting for a decent team why do i have to watch while every other contender improves while we stand pat?

Are improvements really needed here? Shouldnt do something just to do something.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

We already have capable guys, they just need to get it together

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've been the best team in the AL East by a game so far

so why try to improve while everyone around us improves. That would just be silly because no way the Yankees and Sox are better now than they were a couple months ago. Papi, Nady, and Marte don’t do that.

by Dbullsfan on Jul 29, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st K

in like 12 innings

by Hazleton Jason on Jul 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garza is a Stud....

Kazmir, Shields and Garza along with Price may be best top 4 in majors within next year or 2

by arkansasraysfan on Jul 29, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spitfire!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spitfire Racism!!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BREAKING NEWS: BJ UPTON WALKS

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOOD AB CC!

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God damnit, CC

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See how I didn't use caps?

It’s more of an irritant, now

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like we're cats with yarn

At some point the slapping turns into barely pawing.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wee're coming up on full-blown depression

aren’t we?

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7th inning fried ice cream shake from sonic anyone?

they keep showing that damn commercial…but there’s not one within 50 miles of me

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sucks for you

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it doesn't

Sonic is only good for fried ice cream and the Sonic Sunrise. Everything else they serve is certified shit.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess what!!!

We stranded another RISP. What are the odds of that ever happening again?!

by Albertrayon on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Rays win this game 1-0

I won’t complain because Roy seems to be doing this to absolutely everyone this year.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We used to have Chick Fil-A two days a week in high school

After 4 years of that, it changes your whole perspective on shit…

by Albertrayon on Jul 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

down with chic-fil-a!

by geoffp on Jul 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I work overnight

When your only option for fast-food is McDonald’s, THAT changes some prespectives

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember earlier in the season

when the rays would consistently win games in the bottom of the 9th with clutch hitting. This stretch is repayment for that stretch.

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think something is wrong with bj's eyes

just a hunch, maybe he needs contacts or lasik or something….

when he swings he is late much more often than what he should be and well frankly i think his “knowledge of the strike zone” is more of a product of not being ready/able to swing the bat (maybe vision?)

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He swings like 80% on balls in the zone.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That argument is horribly weak.

That’s like saying that the reduction in the presance of pirates in the ocean can be directly attributed to global warming.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this is actually true

more water = more pirates

by Albertrayon on Jul 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is not an argument, it is a guess

he clearly is lost swinging the bat…if there was a pitcher that could throw 3 straight strikes to bj every time he would be lucky to have a .400 ops at this point let alone obp

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's called regression to the motherfucking mean.

Only it’s going a bit overboard with his power sapping.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His power isn't

But look at his BABIP breakdowns, they’ve regressed.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regression would occur

If he was playing at his expected levels and his overall numbers were slowly declining. He’s doing something quite different, like falling off a cliff.

by tallyray on Jul 29, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to massive suckitude?

it may or may not be his eyes. maybe its shoulder. maybe its his mechanics. all i know is when he decide to pull the trigger he is not doing very well. if the mean is the skill of a rookie league player then we have some problems

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im not doubting his strike zone knowledge, or his defense

im talking about his ability to swing the bat and make good solid contact with a baseball.

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I was referencing his shoulder.

Unless it was his non-throwing shoulder, I don’t recall.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Left shoulder

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have to see the ball

isn’t that the first thing they teach you in like tee ball?

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's making contact

Not swinging. Unless he’s blind and doesn’t even see a ball coming in his general direction.

by tallyray on Jul 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was just hypothesizing

bad eyesight usually means you swing a lot less compared to swinging at bad pitches. it also means you swing a lot later than usual. i actually went through the same thing in high school ball. quite a few major leaguers have said the same thing.

now is this what is going on with bj? who knows? it could be an injury or mechanics also.

it also important to note he typically hits far back in the zone to begin with.

bj is still playing great when compared to other players. but that doesn’t mean he is 100% or if he is capable of playing at his true ability. my guess is he can play better.

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm talking about that this isn't his real ability

i think he is a far better player and we should forget these numbers once whatever piece is broken gets fixed. once that happens these numbers would be totally irrelevant to projecting the real upton

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SPITFIRE!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CC has an OBP?

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC goes AB?

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he doesn't take close third strikes...

Yet he doesn’t bunt either… I’m not sure which one Magrane cares about more.

by tallyray on Jul 29, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF GARZA?!?!

YOU SUCK!!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then you'll like the K

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SPITFIRE

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SPITFIRE!!!!!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, stupidest rosterbating scenario ever.
Comment From Corky Civ]
With the Red Sox appearing to be disappointed with Lugo, and the Marlins looking as if Hanley will cost too much to keep long term, could H.Ram ever be dealt back to Boston for a package of a few of the Red Sox prime prospects? Buchholz, Ellsbury, Masterson?

STFU

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yessir

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LATE

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oic

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to hear a Canadian sing take me out to the ball game

“IT’S ONE, TWO, THREE STRIKES YOU’RE OOOOT…”

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I <3 Longo

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longlorious

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a hit?

pull him

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DPs are fun

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I <3 our defense

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yayyyy Drinking

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone's getting a BJ!

Alright!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

....Lets not trade this guy.

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good News!

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well watch upton get a double with 2 outs again

we are the greatest hitting team with 2 outs

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or walk

but CC will make the out

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by JMB on Jul 29, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its not bad

but that was my point about obp and his eyes. he swung at two pitches in these two plate appearances and he fouled both off. you can make the point he isn’t swinging because he has great plate coverage or on the flip side you can say he isn’t swinging (or making contact) because he can’t see the ball.

by matthan on Jul 29, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yayyyyyyy

"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Jul 29, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Allright!

RISP with 2 outs = 3 outs and no runs.

by kericr on Jul 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey douche

Longo thinks you’re a fag

by Albertrayon on Jul 29, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

had bj stolen 2nd

carl would not have done that….

btw carl is back

by K-Rock on Jul 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs