7/7: KC (39-50) at RAYS (55-32)
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
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Kansas City Royals at Tampa Bay Rays, Jul 7, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
The widgets aren't working right now, but at least we have Carl Crawford drama. Today he's playing centerfield and doesn't like it too much per the Heater:
"I wish I would have had a little more notice," Crawford said. "But it is what it is. Just gonna run out to centerfield today."
What will be the biggest adjustment?
"You're thinking about (it) - you're taking a conscious effort to think about what you're doing now," Crawford said. "My game is usually based on me not thinking at all, just more knowing this is what I'm going to be doing. So today, I'm gonna be thinking a little bit more than what I normally do. And we'll see how that goes."
Carl Crawford: "My game is usually based on me not thinking at all," the jokes about his plate presence write themselves.
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I've always been a big CC fan and he has been one of my favorite players to watch over the last few years, but
come on, man. Get over it! While BJ ticks me off sometimes when he doesn’t seem to be trying in the field, at least he is willing to switch spots in the batting order and do some other things for the team. I wish CC would get over this and truly become more of a team first guy. It especially looks bad with all of the other love getting tossed around for the team. This, in contrast, just comes off as a whiny, and me-first kind of attitude.
Anyways, I hope we see (hear since its not on tv) our boys finish this series out strong and head into the road trip with a ton of momentum!!
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"My game is usually based on me not thinking at all"
That explains the throw to first base, among many other things.
Longlorious.
by RATW on Jul 7, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you guys are ridiculous,
most athletes tell you they don’t think their game, they feel it. it’s instinctual, a feeling, something natural. they will tell you the more they think, the worse off they are; whether it’s a starting pitcher over-thinking, or a batter getting psyched out, or hell even tiger woods will tell you when he’s on the tee it’s not the thought process, but a clear mind that helps you play well. CC is no different, you over think, you get into trouble.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But all I'm hearing is
Me Me ME
I understand that playing out of your comfort zone is no fun, but if the manager believes it is what is best for the team, then you should just DO IT.
Hopefully he will play solid defense, and go 3-4 and decide that he doesn’t have a problem with it anymore, and that this will be a non-issue henceforth.
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on this one, davidsmarch...
In the variety of sports I’ve played, I’ve always found that the fans are the only one’s thinking. Athletes practice and practice and practice so that they don’t have to think – their actions are recorded in what we call “muscle memory.”
Beyond that, you can read a lot or a little of emotion and emphasis into what Carl is saying. I obviously read it differently than most of us here; I read it: “Yeah, I’d’ve liked a little more forewarning, but, feh, I’m just going to have to keep in mind that I’m in center, not left.” Rather than: “I hate Joe Maddon! I hate Tampa Bay! None of my teammates will smoke with me anymore! Waah!” as many other seem to have read it. Or perhaps too many of us are just bored at work, looking for things to take our minds off the fact we’re not being paid to play baseball.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
purely for the last two sentences.
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of my teammates will smoke with me anymore! Waah!
Now that sir, is crossing the line.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I interpret it as Carl bitching
His complaints are never after the fact, they’re always pre-emptive. ‘I’m being asked to play center. I don’t like center.’ ‘I’m being asked to bat leadoff, I don’t like leadoff.’ ‘I’m being asked to walk more, I don’t like walks, i like hits.’ ‘I’m being asked to bat 3rd, I don’t like batting third.
I mean, with Delmon at least, his complaints came after the fact, ‘I don’t like playing center, I suck at it, Carl would be better.’ ‘It’s not fair that I’m being punished for not running out a groundout. Other players on this team do it.’ ‘I should be in the majors, I’m better than the guy up there playing my position right now.’
Now we’re not in the clubhouse, the differences between Delmon’s attitude and Crawford’s in my eyes at least, are starting to blur together.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's somewhat valid.
Concerning Delmon. I’m sure he was a brat in the clubhouse and dugout all alike, but he never did complain about playing center while he had to despite it not being the best move for the team.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The not thinking thing
Is just funny because of how critical some of us are of CC and his plate discipline. Other then that, it makes sense. Just the way he described it is funny. I wish I was there for the interview so I could hear how he was talking, but it certainly comes off as somewhat “ME-ish”.
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with on that point.
I wish we could get an audio version of the interview, because if he wasn’t truly offended, then his word choice certainly did not help convey that.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over thinking and thinking aren't the same thing.
But you have to admit, there are plenty of jokes to be made here.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax, it was just a funny comment by Crawford too good to pass up.
Longlorious.
by RATW on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Carl
Shut the fuck up and be a team player.
I’m seriously getting tired of hearing about Carl not wanting to do things.
Are we absolutely certain that Delmon Young was the clubhouse cancer?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First rule
Don’t think – it only hurts the ballclub
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We lead the league in good facial hair.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beards, furries, and cats that play fiddles: How the 2008 Rays changed the world.
And to think Sonnanstine started the beard movement.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psh
Edwin Jackson obviously started the movement. Use your eyes.
by Vin on Jul 7, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edwin can't even convince the players to catch or hit the ball while he's pitching
Not along grow facial hair.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir
I still don’t think he has good facial hair. I still think his beard looks like that marionette in Team America, the one where they glued facial hair on him to look like an arab. It looks like he’s been eating a lot of hairy…well, you get the point.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There out to be a law against not televising the facial hair of this team right now.
Nothing but rugged all around.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See the TBT today??
feature on rays facial hair
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we access it online?
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
radio is on though
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Rays!
Coffee and baseball, can life be better?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Married.
Coffee is better… pretty much.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. But I commed RJ for aiming high.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An outfield of...
Gomes in LF, CC in CF, and Hinske in RF? Are you fucking kidding me? I would be pissed if I was Garza.
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garza hit Gordon.
come on Garz
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word on why Upton is not in the lineup?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with Gross not playing center?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn shame
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back-to-back day games can be rough for the life of the town.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This defensive arrangement really is awful looking
With dead arms all over the outfield, lead feet at the corners, and Slowbrist at SS, Garza’s going to have to win this one on his own.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember guys
Its the Royals
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It Doesn't matter!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF is this?
Seriously? Someone gayed up the Rock like this?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who doesn't really?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the Rays sucked last year,
CC would have never played center
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we ever do a shirt, which we might, this would be one of the first...
Coming in a few minutes.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dribbler to first,
2 outs, 2nd and 3rd on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Days like today make me wish for more Ruggiano
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's alright.
It’s alright. I miss the Ruggs to.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 strikes
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garza gets Teahan
3 outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*Red Flashy K Garza Pic*
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0-0 Rays up!
This game is not TV, right.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Kazmir celebrated his All Star nomination...
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by "not smoking" duh.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gameday for me
it will make me less pissed about bad calls
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Radio and gameday!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else listening to the Fruit of the Loom music video add on Gameday?
just wanted to know if I’m the only one who is gonna have it stuck in their head all afternoon
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was the 'stine?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should commend Garza for being crafty and escaping that mini-jam.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I also do not think CC's comments are that big of a deal...
But what does he mean he wants more notice? Who does he think is going to play centerfield when BJ is out? Gomes? Gross? Come on. Anyone could have predicted this.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They aren't a big deal.
There’s just easy jokes to be made.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gross is capable of playing CF
He’s quick enough, has a good arm, and makes good breaks to the ball.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But can he do it without thinking?
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He "could" play it
But it would make absolutely no sense to have Gross play CF over Crawford.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well yeah
Of course. This is why I don’t like his comments. He should be in CF over Gross. And he whines about it.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on CC..
aki on first.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CC hit!
aki to third
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOHOO first and third!!
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Price pitched last night.
He did well.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stat line?
por favor
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This pleases me.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on C-Pena !
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's time Pena reclaimed the throne that is the 3-spot.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Longo at three better then Pena
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waiting until he gets back to .250
Before I spell relief “P-E-N-A”
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.960 OPS since May 23rd is nice.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he injured for the entire month of June?
So that’s like what, 3 games?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your using batting average as a metric to gauge when you can cheer for Pena?
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not for cheering
I just want to make sure he’s actually hitting the ball. I’m cheering him regardless, I’d just be more comfortable seeing him approach the plate if he’s not striking out.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's crashing the ball.
.296 .411 .549
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
As long as my boy C-Los gets the 4-spot.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-29 in basestealing throwing out for Buck...
Run, run like the wind!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck is only a catcher
In the sense that yes, he does sit behind the plate for all 27 outs, and no he is not the umpire.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ole?
The guy is Dom Rep… that’s a mexican thing.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gomes and Hinske is the same OF....what is maddon thinking?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is like CC
not thinking.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pena struck out
1st and thiird..
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how does crawford not run on a 3-2 count?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
buck probably wouldn't have even thrown to 2nd.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fear the power of Buck
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God Pena
Thats the crap that kills us. You cannot strike out in that scenario
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CC stole third.. .
CC on the board… bad throw!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
300 steals!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Way to go CC!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite amazing
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know the reason given for not being televised?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FSN Florida doesn’t have their priorities straight
by Vin on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God Doesn't like us.
That’s why.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-0 Rays!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Longo gets a BH
2-0
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Rays Go!
Send Longo! He has some speed.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck is the worst catcher of all time
He is replaceable by a high school catcher
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
37-9 rays are when Rays score first.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The lightning were undefeated in 2004 when Brad Richards scored a goal.
I just like mentioning that.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was 22-0 when he scored a goal.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do yourself a favor.
Youtube David Koci v. Zdeno Chara.
Koci gets destroyed.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always liked re-watching Stu Grimson v. Reid Simpson from a few years back
Poor Reid. Stu didn’t even want to fight him.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been rewatching Roy's poor fights lightly.
But the Chara video made me respect Vinny even more for attempting to go at him.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd gets a hit
1st and 3rd.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much is Meche getting paid for a 5 ERA?
Blake
USF--Class of '09
by usfraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Far more than Seattle was ever willing to give him.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
11 MILLION dollars!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to the ER?
Yes.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have Floyd steal
There is a 1 percent chance of getting thrown out and a 80 percent chance of Buck throwing it into CF
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
poor Gomes, dude's avg is down below .200. i feel for the dude, hard to maintain any sort of rythm when you never play consistently.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He still has the best AB of the season though.
by AussieGriff on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes pops up.
To shallow short… dammit
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great picture.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longo on the prowl!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it when we score more runs than the other guys.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's pretty nice.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like it when we give up less runs than the other guys.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it when glass if half full... of runs.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
28 pitches for Menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so whats the view on navarro?
is he now our future catcher for years? Because coming in we didnt think so
by Jombari on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His BABIP is still pretty high...
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so was tony gwynn's for 20 years
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Navi grounds out to first
3 outs. 2-0 Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to take a wild guess and say
2 Es for Buck this game and 1 for Zobrist
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Garza,
Shut em down and let’s go back to work.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 and 2 to Gload
come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 and 2 come on Garz
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garza walks gload
The hell… Buck you must hit a DP
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
02 come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then do something about it.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck grounds to CF
Gload to 2nd, Buck to first
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, RJ, it's taking every moral fiber in my body not to post the Shift-key.jpeg.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how you pretend that would be rude.
After bloody orgy, nothing is phasing these people.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's NSFW, I would be kinda unhappy seeing it.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's very general
For what I know, that description could be the equivelent of describing Goatse as “a picture of an old man”
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a picture of the shift key on a computer. Nothing else.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is it:
It’s a popular troll/idiot deterrent at LL.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
26 pitches for Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
27
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even in Navi regresses
his bat will still be solid for a catcher and his defense has been awesome. Not worried about him.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Royals' lineup is absolutely abysmal
I expected a dominating performance today, and of course he struggles with these hacks.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0-2 Garza... sit down Aviles Garza
You do not play for Rochester and longer!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lack of Commas hurt my sentences...
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Foul...
I feel like I am on a chicken farm.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 out Gload to thid...
Buck still on first… Pena up.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RJ, how did Gwynn have a year with a BABIP in check?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just skimmed over his numbers, but didn't have have a few sub .310 seasons?
Also I would like to see his LD%, but I don’t know where that data is.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gwynnto01.shtml very few seasons sub .310
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think LD% exists before 2004.
THT only charts back to that point.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BR has the data it looks like.
1044 of his 3141 hits were apparently liners.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
BR is such a wonderful resource.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's right, he's got a career 33 LD%
Say what?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like 25%...
Where’d you get 33%?
by tallyray on Jul 7, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if it's 25%, that's freakishly high.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can all agree that Tony Gwynn was not quite a normal baseball player.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... It's high...
But we are talking about Tony Gwynn…
by tallyray on Jul 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think BR determines LDs the same way THT does.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Total LD/Total contact would give you % of Linedrive on balls hit. That seems right. Some data is missing though.
by tallyray on Jul 7, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As of now determine line drives is a subjective thing.
BR might have different criteria than THT.
This will be clearer when HitF/X shows up.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As of now, determining line drives is a subjective thing*
Damn I just went all JI on myself.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"line drives"
Tony Gwynn didn’t usually swing hard. He was almost aiming for bloops over the infield. Those might technically be line drives, but their more like soft fly balls. If Adam Dunn was swinging, the same trajectory might be seen as a flyball hit off the hands, because if Dunn makes solid contact, he kills it. For Gwynn, solid contact didn’t make the ball go all that far.
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GIDP time! Show us what you've got BenZo!
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0-2 count to Pena
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pena strikes out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pena is Spanish for strikeout.
I’ll boo myself.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankyou, I really don't have enough time to boo you myself, or I would have.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 more out
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-2 tied came.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus can hit
The only good hitter in the Royals’ lineup. Way to go, Matt.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing says "demoralizing" quite like a game-tying 2 run triple with 2 out.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
by esoteric on Jul 7, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Somehow, it's even worse than a homer would be.
I dunno, the triple just seems like showing off or something.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
by esoteric on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are playing the Royals. Win probability is still at 99 percent.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You never know.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
by esoteric on Jul 7, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 outs our turn
Go Rays Go!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gwynn's BA was .735 on line drives.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hinske bunts!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
line drive percentage = best projectability stat?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh...probably not.
I think you have to look at all of THT’s special batting stats to get a clear projection.
Even then, you’ll never project a player like Ichiro right.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that:
Please walk Zobrist.
or
Please walk, Zobrist.
?
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got it bud!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when it works.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Wilson was the last position player to play in a game!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He almost had a 1-2-3 inning too.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
E3
bases loaded with Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CC up with bases loaded..
Please dont be thinking
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CC flied out..
come on Clos
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 out
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
44 pitches for Menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is their bullpen as bad as their starters (have been this series)?
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pop up.
Dammit. Clos…
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he thought.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on Evan
come on. Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you've got to be fucking kidding me. bases loaded, and no out, and we can't score 1?
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos is the least clutch person on the planet
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hush.
wait…
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a very Rays type inning
To load the bases and not score. And it’s not like Gil Meche is some great pitcher,.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded with CC and Pena...
And neither get it done
by td32 on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crawford is our version of Jeter.
He does no wrong.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
51 pitches
come on Longo.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember Longo, walk is gud too!
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-1 to Longo
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-2 to longo
come on Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Swing and miss.
no runs. 2-2 tied game.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dammit.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many more years are we stuck with Pena?
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You're an idiot if you want to get rid of Pena.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whys that?
You think he is the best 1B in baseball? You are out of your mind.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is impervious to logic.
Welcome to the board BrianL.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that is what?
10 games? You do realize he was hurt during that time span?
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow domination!!
He is an average first basemen. And title contending teams usually need something better than average. He can put together dominating stretches, and hopefully he does it come playoff time. But he also puts up massive stinkers. Wouldn’t it suck if he put up one of his negative OPS periods in the playoffs?
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That hurt hamstring didn't hamper him, nope.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he have it for the first handful of years of his careeer? If so that is pretty Baldelliesque. He has historically been average at absolute best. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’ll be average from here on out. But is a highly streaky average player acceptable for a contending team?
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All players get injured too
Some players are Baldelliesque and some do it like Pena.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck finding anyone better than him.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck? Do you only watch Rays agmes? There are easily 10 first basemen better and you can easily make the case for 20.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera
Howard
Fielder
Berkman
Giambi
Youk
Morneau
Pujols
Lee
Teixeira
Gonzalez
Those guys are all guaranteed better players than Pena
Now you can make a strong case for the following
Kotchman
Loney
Jackson
You can a decent case for the following guys (I’d put Pena here, like I said average)
Delgado
Votto
Jacobs
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berkman!? KOTCHMAN!?
DELGADO!? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
::Breath::
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think Lance Berkman is better than Pena? Are you smoking something? He is batting 350 with over 1100 OPS
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to start breaking these out again
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I told you to take reading classes
I never said I didn’t like it. I said it is one of many stats. For you it is the only stat. I try to take in the whole picture.
But if you wanted to go by OPS Pena ranks 18th overall.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
18th overall THIS YEAR
Have we forgeotten 2007? Should the Phillies give up on Howard? Would you trade Pujols for Berkman?
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably would throw in Rasmus too.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG RASMUS IS A NONPROVEN ROOKIE
DOESN’T HAVE VETERAN GOODNESS
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berkman is worth 6 mil more
But if makign salaries a factor then Votto, Kotchman, Loney, and Jackson all make signficantly less than Pena…
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kotchman is awful.
Good luck prying Votto, Loney, and Jackson away from their respective teams.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just answering a question
You guys wanted to know which first basemen were better than Pena. CAnd I listed them for you. Pena is average.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could make that argument
But I doubt the Angels would trade Kotchman for Pena straight up. Remember I was discussing the future as my origional post was (how many more YEARS are we stuck with Pena).
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you being serious?
I don’t like his drop in walks from last year. But if he go .290/.370/.440 with a +10 glove, that’s better than average.
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is more amusing than the ZOMG BELTRE SUCKS trolls.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian
Do you have any idea of Pena’s history? I have a feeling you just started watching baseball.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pena was a prospect with the Oakland organization who was dealt
Bounced around for a while and found a good home with Tampa Bay, where he’s become an above-average 1B
Shut the fuck up, noob.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he can do that. But will he? I’m looking at his entire career, not just last year. If he can perform at 80% of last year I’ll be happy. I’m not sure he can do that.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. Im certainly not rooting against him.
What I see is the first handful years of his career he was a journeyman. Not even a top 30 first basemen. During the season where he was a minor league roster invite he breaks out and has a great year. The following year he sinks back into the 15th best 1b range.
I’m looking at his whole career, not just last year.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been above average throughout the duration of his career.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That is RJs argument. I tend to think Pena wasn’t being blackballed. There was a reason nobody wanted him. If he was some great player he would have stuck somewhere. I tend to believe that GMs aren’t that dumb.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to believe that GMs aren’t that dumb.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok you win
i have no response for that. of course if they were stupid to trade kazmir does that make us “smart” for trading for him. but that was probably just blind luck.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pena, pre-2007
OPS+ in seasons he got significant playing time: 106, 108, 113, 112. That’s top 30, probably top 20, and perhaps league-average (I’m not sure what league-average is for 1Bs).
Teams didn’t like the .240 AVG. Bad move.
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there are legit arguments for players like Millar and Overbay. Mainly b/c they walk more and strike out less than Pena.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget the Ks
Millar and Overbay? No. Delgado? No way.
Kotchman’s ahead of Pena (love the D and OBP). Loney I could see, but Jackson’s right at Pena’s level.
Given the list, which 1B would be easy to acquire? None. And how many would be large upgrades? Half.
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did say I’d put Pena above Millar and Overbay.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he couldn't think of 20.
As a matter of fact, his original list only has 16 names.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Obviously you are trying to bust my balls, but if you read what I said then it would make more sense. I said there are 10 guys for sure that are better and you can make the case for about 20.
I listed 11 for sure better than Pena
3 more that have a strong case over Pena
3 more about on the same level as Pena
and 3 more that are slightly below Pena, but have an argument.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You haven't listed ANYONE who can be had.
Pena is and remains the best available 1B for your club.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with anything?
This is the middle of the season. You do realize that right?
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pena is above average...
Even when struggling he is average at worst.
Championship teams don’t have average first baseman? Here are first baseman that one World Series in the last ten years:
Scott Spezio
Mark Grace
Tino Martinez (x3)
Jeff Conine…
Please, Pena is fine…
by tallyray on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point is
You said that we need to get rid of Pena because he’s average. I would agree he’s average, but that doesn’t mean you get rid of him. You can’t properly replace him. There’s nobody worth signing that is significantly better at a reasonable price. Pena also plays excellent defense, amonst the best in the league at 1B, and you don’t even seem to consider that. You may have an argument for your opinion, but the argument you’re using is just flat-out wrong. You blast Howard earlier for having a crappy year than say you’d have him over Pena. Giambi is awful in the field defensively, his numbers are only ‘pretty good’, his best years are well behind him, and he was roiding up, yet you’d rather have him over Pena? Carlos Delgato flat out sucks and you put him on the same level as Pena? The points you’re making are so full of holes that we just can’t point them out quick enough to you.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kericr
I didn’t say we had to get rid of Pena. I asked how many more years he was here. Big difference. I said he was average. Clearly that means if we can get someone above average then I’d be in favor. But not someone below average. And your bias is what is saying Pena is “clearly” ahead of Delgado. Personally I think he is, but it is not by a huge margin. Delgado has a history of performance. Pena has none. Their numbers this year aren’t that far apart. You are exhibiting homerism at its finest.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Homerism my ass
I just said earlier in this GDT that I wish he’d produce more offense. Patience with a struggling player is not the same as homerism. I’m done talking at you.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's examine what you said, shall we?
How many more years are we stuck with Pena?
That seems to imply you want to get rid of him.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you familiar with the word "stuck"
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
You (or others)are asking me who we should replace him with when clearly I stated that he will be here for as long as we are “stuck” with him. If I thought there was a better attainable player out there I certainly wouldn’t have used the word stuck.
Thank you.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you wanted Pena here
You wouldn’t have said stuck.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he a good fielder?
Last year’s advanced stats have him as average, maybe a touch below.
I respect you bringing up fielding, though. Pujols, Kotchman, Youk, and Lee appreciate it, too.
by Sky Kalkman on Jul 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By EqA Pena appears to be the 14th best 1B in the league
Better than Cabrera, Howard, Kotchman, Delgado, Votto, and Jacobs amongst others.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when he finishes in the top 10 you'll change your tune, right?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Im sure it is not much different than if Jackson turned it around and started dominating. I’m suer you’d like him then. I like Pena, but I’m just not confident he can be a top notch first basemen. I’d love it if he dominates. I’m not rooting against him.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Jackson dominated
With a bad process (see: walking guys) then no I wouldn’t “like” him, at least not in the way you’re describing. I “like” players with good processes, if that result doesn’t work out every time I know eventually it will because of the process.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m the same way. I see Pena as a hitter with poor fundamentals, poor approach, and a guy that strikes out a lot. If he can turn it around (bunting yesterday was a great start) then I’d love it. There isn’t much difference between that and Jackson pitching intelligently.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
Wrong.
/Graham.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His EqA is higher than Miguel Cabrera and Ryan Howard.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those players haven't exactly been great this year
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His EqA is the exact average of 1B
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which means he isn’t the best. Last time I checked it is very possible to upgrade from average.
by matthan on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you scream for replacement
You have to volunteer the alternative. All we hear is “Pena’s a Bum. Get rid of him.” With who? Who would you sign for 8 million a year that’s a step up from Pena?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richie Sexson is about a step up.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no say in this.
I will force bees on Jeff until he signs the paper.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coach doesn't want you and the Red Weasel anymore.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coach is under LL control for the next five seasons.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks
that’s a deal we need to make to contiune competeing.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in an expiring contract and you've got a deal.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is SBN structured like teh NBA?
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, at work
with a slow computer
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I know
I posted before all the text had shown up. It’s really, really slow.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll have to run that one buy Jeff.
If that doesn’t work, how about Robert?
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll run this by Jeff/Graham/Matthew.
Hopefully we’ll have a press release tonight.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in the future we'll have to re-visit the SRQ talks.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SRQman
We can’t have him running around mistreating our assistant GM like he did last night.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like what I saw from LFOJL.
Garzamel wasn’t his best work.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're worried he's going to flame out.
We might have to send him back to HH for seasoning.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Use Myspace to find Patrick photos.
From there, it’s all you.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no trade clause I have
kthxbye
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah, you didn't read your contract.
Limited no-trade. You can be dealt to LL or HH.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what you get.
When you mess with thinking,
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that sucked
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 innings complete
15 men LOB
That has to be a record
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't be right
Matematical maximum is 12, isn’t it?
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My gameday shows 15 for us, 10 for KC
3 for CC, 5 for Pena, 3 for Longo. 2 each for Gomes and Navarro.
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are scoring it as LOB per player combined
I guess if you look at it that way, you’re right. I don’t look at it that way.
by kericr on Jul 7, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top of the 3rd.
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
question. are we going to sign Kyle Lobstein? Our 2nd round pick
by Jombari on Jul 7, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll see isn't the deadline Aug?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For all the good things Longo does
He’s hitting under .250 with RISP.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Never said it wasn’t.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garza can't seem to get guys out once 0-2
come on Garza.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 ks!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
two outs
ground out to Longo.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Teahan bunts
gets on base. Two outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
52 pitches.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can Garza sit a guy down after going 2 istrikes?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3-2 count come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
base hit. Gload.
Gload scores. Rays down 3-2. Anyone else pissed off>
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im pissed off
but not very scared of Meche either
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on..
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on gameday it says teahan bunt singled, so how did he score on the gload single?
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait for the video...
But with 2 out I guess he was on the move…
by AussieGriff on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait 10 minutes for the video.
But, apparently, it was play where Teahan was running on a 3-2 count. Single to CF. CC gets the throw to the cut-off Gload keeps on going not a very sharp play all around.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 outs
3-2 Bad Guys.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ross Blowd?
Gimme a break, Garza.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for those who can't watch
How the hell did Teahen get into scoring position? Bunted to get on base – no steals or pass balls that the box score shows, but he scored on a single? Did CC hold onto the ball and take 5 seconds to think about where to throw it too?
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am listening to the Radio.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teahen was on first, running with the pitch
Hit to center field, fielded it then a lazy throw to second and he rounded third base and just continued running to home.
by Knoll on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it sounded like that on the radio
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bring in upton and gross
Maddon is getting cocky throwing the C team out their to try and win.
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Rays!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Floyd gets a hit.
1 on, no outs. Gome on Jonny
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
play by play says...
bunt single to 3rd. Then he scored on the single by Gload (USF sucks).
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DF Gomes NOW!
We need more production. This is Bull Shit.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shut up, the pitch was right down the middle, i'd hope he would swing at it.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.196 avg?
He needs to do something that Ruggiano can’t do.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
enough of this shit
start smacking Meche around
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
58 pitches.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Navi.
Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad gobble is probably burned out
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navi Walks!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone actually scared of the Royals pitchers?
I am more concerned about the fact that Garza looks like shit today.
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ba-zing!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good AB for Navi.
We can still get this one. The game is young and the offense is on the brink of Brawlfense.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by B Ray on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on ske!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont even know who it is
but the radio guy called Meche “the mariners ace” hmm…. quite a bit wrong with that
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, he was employed by Seattle for a while.
Never was the “ace” though.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hinske is 3/20 off meche in his career, why is he playing
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why is the sky blue?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddon lost a bet
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
70 pitches
for menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That too...
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ske pops up.
2 out. and the greatness of Benzo is up.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
72 pitches for Mechaleck-hi-lecka-hi-ni-ho.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least Hinske looked pissed off
guys last innings didn’t seem to care much
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Benzo Struck out.
That sucks ass.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring on Brignac!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why so he can cause two errors and STILL strick out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because if given equal playing time
Brignac is a significantly better player.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that AB was atrocious
I would have a better eye at the plate than that
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Mostly because there’s only been 8 men on base.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's team LOB
if you break it down per instance, it is 20.
Iwamura and Floyd are the only 2 who have yet to leave men where they stood
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not how that works,
mostly it’s unbelievable b/c we keep getting men on with 0 or 1 out, and doing nothing with it.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why does MLB gameday list a LOB column for each player?
Can’t figure out why they list it if it doesn’t matter.
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why doesn't it matter?
each player has left a different number of men on.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good god we are letting Meche off the hook
eom
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Jul 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%%
They are who we thought they were!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 LOB, this has the feeling of a post game Joe Maddon quote about:
“we need to have better situational hitting. we may get by with this stuff here, but against the Red Sox and Yankees, we’re going to need to do a better job hitting with men in scoring position…”
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone else have that feeling?
We are obviously right there but is anyone getting the feeling that is gonna be a very annoying loss?
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that inning was brought to you by:
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gil Meche may be the least efficient pitcher ever.
by P Brady on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When he pitched for Seattle
we all knew to get comfy. It was going to be a long game.
by BrianL on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on BenZo
Can’t handle the grounder. 1 on. Missed bunt 1 out and 1 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0 count to DeJesus...
come on Garza.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how does he pitch out of bases loaded 0 outs
i can not get over that shit
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meche - lots of pitches
76 thru 3 innings
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pop up
2 out. 1 on. Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought Zobrist would drop it
at least we aren’t the only team hitting useless pop ups
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes just not finishing
i dont know how many 0-2 and 1-2 counts he hasnt finished this game
by Jombari on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a lot.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garza doesn't sound sharp today.
Come on. G-right gets a base hit. 2 outs, 2 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 outs
Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im just gonna use gameday
actually watching all the failing was too annoying.
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aki double!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do we have leadoff hits every inning?
lets take advantage of this one….
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Studying is for Nerds and Billy Beane.
by P Brady on Jul 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's writing another book I hear.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's doing soccer now, so would it be...
RIOTMONEYBALL?
DEEPSEEDEDRIVALRYBALL?
by P Brady on Jul 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC hits the ball hard.
but out. 1 out. Man on 2nd.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
radio guys are such a tease
make everything sound like a HR
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awww... are they giving you Blue Ears?
Just breathe, we can get these guys.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pena popped to CF
Aki to 3rd 2 out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh god
can we please can we PLEASE get Aki in
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Rays
three outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
21 LOB
Be back, gotta throw stuff and throw up.
by joeybw on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garza Rage!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This inning was brought to you by:
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then use Viagra
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs