7/7: KC (39-50) at RAYS (55-32)
Kansas City Royals at Tampa Bay Rays, Jul 7, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
The widgets aren't working right now, but at least we have Carl Crawford drama. Today he's playing centerfield and doesn't like it too much per the Heater:
"I wish I would have had a little more notice," Crawford said. "But it is what it is. Just gonna run out to centerfield today."
What will be the biggest adjustment?
"You're thinking about (it) - you're taking a conscious effort to think about what you're doing now," Crawford said. "My game is usually based on me not thinking at all, just more knowing this is what I'm going to be doing. So today, I'm gonna be thinking a little bit more than what I normally do. And we'll see how that goes."
Carl Crawford: "My game is usually based on me not thinking at all," the jokes about his plate presence write themselves.
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I've always been a big CC fan and he has been one of my favorite players to watch over the last few years, but
come on, man. Get over it! While BJ ticks me off sometimes when he doesn’t seem to be trying in the field, at least he is willing to switch spots in the batting order and do some other things for the team. I wish CC would get over this and truly become more of a team first guy. It especially looks bad with all of the other love getting tossed around for the team. This, in contrast, just comes off as a whiny, and me-first kind of attitude.
Anyways, I hope we see (hear since its not on tv) our boys finish this series out strong and head into the road trip with a ton of momentum!!
Blake
USF--Class of '09
"My game is usually based on me not thinking at all"
That explains the throw to first base, among many other things.
Longlorious.
you guys are ridiculous,
most athletes tell you they don’t think their game, they feel it. it’s instinctual, a feeling, something natural. they will tell you the more they think, the worse off they are; whether it’s a starting pitcher over-thinking, or a batter getting psyched out, or hell even tiger woods will tell you when he’s on the tee it’s not the thought process, but a clear mind that helps you play well. CC is no different, you over think, you get into trouble.
by davidsmarch on Jul 7, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But all I'm hearing is
Me Me ME
I understand that playing out of your comfort zone is no fun, but if the manager believes it is what is best for the team, then you should just DO IT.
Hopefully he will play solid defense, and go 3-4 and decide that he doesn’t have a problem with it anymore, and that this will be a non-issue henceforth.
Blake
USF--Class of '09
I'm with you on this one, davidsmarch...
In the variety of sports I’ve played, I’ve always found that the fans are the only one’s thinking. Athletes practice and practice and practice so that they don’t have to think – their actions are recorded in what we call “muscle memory.”
Beyond that, you can read a lot or a little of emotion and emphasis into what Carl is saying. I obviously read it differently than most of us here; I read it: “Yeah, I’d’ve liked a little more forewarning, but, feh, I’m just going to have to keep in mind that I’m in center, not left.” Rather than: “I hate Joe Maddon! I hate Tampa Bay! None of my teammates will smoke with me anymore! Waah!” as many other seem to have read it. Or perhaps too many of us are just bored at work, looking for things to take our minds off the fact we’re not being paid to play baseball.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by BWoodrum on Jul 7, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
None of my teammates will smoke with me anymore! Waah!
Now that sir, is crossing the line.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Why I interpret it as Carl bitching
His complaints are never after the fact, they’re always pre-emptive. ‘I’m being asked to play center. I don’t like center.’ ‘I’m being asked to bat leadoff, I don’t like leadoff.’ ‘I’m being asked to walk more, I don’t like walks, i like hits.’ ‘I’m being asked to bat 3rd, I don’t like batting third.
I mean, with Delmon at least, his complaints came after the fact, ‘I don’t like playing center, I suck at it, Carl would be better.’ ‘It’s not fair that I’m being punished for not running out a groundout. Other players on this team do it.’ ‘I should be in the majors, I’m better than the guy up there playing my position right now.’
Now we’re not in the clubhouse, the differences between Delmon’s attitude and Crawford’s in my eyes at least, are starting to blur together.
That's somewhat valid.
Concerning Delmon. I’m sure he was a brat in the clubhouse and dugout all alike, but he never did complain about playing center while he had to despite it not being the best move for the team.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The not thinking thing
Is just funny because of how critical some of us are of CC and his plate discipline. Other then that, it makes sense. Just the way he described it is funny. I wish I was there for the interview so I could hear how he was talking, but it certainly comes off as somewhat “ME-ish”.
I agree with on that point.
I wish we could get an audio version of the interview, because if he wasn’t truly offended, then his word choice certainly did not help convey that.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
Over thinking and thinking aren't the same thing.
But you have to admit, there are plenty of jokes to be made here.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Carl
Shut the fuck up and be a team player.
I’m seriously getting tired of hearing about Carl not wanting to do things.
Are we absolutely certain that Delmon Young was the clubhouse cancer?
We lead the league in good facial hair.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Beards, furries, and cats that play fiddles: How the 2008 Rays changed the world.
And to think Sonnanstine started the beard movement.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Edwin can't even convince the players to catch or hit the ball while he's pitching
Not along grow facial hair.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kazmir
I still don’t think he has good facial hair. I still think his beard looks like that marionette in Team America, the one where they glued facial hair on him to look like an arab. It looks like he’s been eating a lot of hairy…well, you get the point.
There out to be a law against not televising the facial hair of this team right now.
Nothing but rugged all around.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
Come on Rays!
Coffee and baseball, can life be better?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
Married.
Coffee is better… pretty much.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
An outfield of...
Gomes in LF, CC in CF, and Hinske in RF? Are you fucking kidding me? I would be pissed if I was Garza.
Garza hit Gordon.
come on Garz
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
what's wrong with Gross not playing center?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn shame
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Back-to-back day games can be rough for the life of the town.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This defensive arrangement really is awful looking
With dead arms all over the outfield, lead feet at the corners, and Slowbrist at SS, Garza’s going to have to win this one on his own.
It Doesn't matter!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Who doesn't really?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
When the Rays sucked last year,
CC would have never played center
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Dribbler to first,
2 outs, 2nd and 3rd on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
It's alright.
It’s alright. I miss the Ruggs to.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
2 strikes
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
Garza gets Teahan
3 outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
0-0 Rays up!
This game is not TV, right.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
by "not smoking" duh.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Radio and gameday!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else listening to the Fruit of the Loom music video add on Gameday?
just wanted to know if I’m the only one who is gonna have it stuck in their head all afternoon
Blake
USF--Class of '09
I think we should commend Garza for being crafty and escaping that mini-jam.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
Crafty Garza

B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
by BWoodrum on Jul 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I also do not think CC's comments are that big of a deal...
But what does he mean he wants more notice? Who does he think is going to play centerfield when BJ is out? Gomes? Gross? Come on. Anyone could have predicted this.
They aren't a big deal.
There’s just easy jokes to be made.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Gross is capable of playing CF
He’s quick enough, has a good arm, and makes good breaks to the ball.
He "could" play it
But it would make absolutely no sense to have Gross play CF over Crawford.
Oh, well yeah
Of course. This is why I don’t like his comments. He should be in CF over Gross. And he whines about it.
Come on CC..
aki on first.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
CC hit!
aki to third
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
Price pitched last night.
He did well.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
Come on C-Pena !
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
I like Longo at three better then Pena
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for cheering
I just want to make sure he’s actually hitting the ball. I’m cheering him regardless, I’d just be more comfortable seeing him approach the plate if he’s not striking out.
agreed.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
2-29 in basestealing throwing out for Buck...
Run, run like the wind!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
Buck is only a catcher
In the sense that yes, he does sit behind the plate for all 27 outs, and no he is not the umpire.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ole?
The guy is Dom Rep… that’s a mexican thing.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
He is like CC
not thinking.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
pena struck out
1st and thiird..
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Fear the power of Buck
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
1 out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
God Pena
Thats the crap that kills us. You cannot strike out in that scenario
CC stole third.. .
CC on the board… bad throw!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
300 steals!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Way to go CC!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
FSN Florida doesn’t have their priorities straight
by Vin on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
God Doesn't like us.
That’s why.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
1-0 Rays!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Longo gets a BH
2-0
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Go Rays Go!
Send Longo! He has some speed.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
Buck is the worst catcher of all time
He is replaceable by a high school catcher
37-9 rays are when Rays score first.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
The lightning were undefeated in 2004 when Brad Richards scored a goal.
I just like mentioning that.
Do yourself a favor.
Youtube David Koci v. Zdeno Chara.
Koci gets destroyed.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I always liked re-watching Stu Grimson v. Reid Simpson from a few years back
Poor Reid. Stu didn’t even want to fight him.
I've been rewatching Roy's poor fights lightly.
But the Chara video made me respect Vinny even more for attempting to go at him.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Floyd gets a hit
1st and 3rd.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
11 MILLION dollars!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
to the ER?
Yes.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Have Floyd steal
There is a 1 percent chance of getting thrown out and a 80 percent chance of Buck throwing it into CF
poor Gomes, dude's avg is down below .200. i feel for the dude, hard to maintain any sort of rythm when you never play consistently.
Gomes pops up.
To shallow short… dammit
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
great picture.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Longo on the prowl!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's pretty nice.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
28 pitches for Menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
so whats the view on navarro?
is he now our future catcher for years? Because coming in we didnt think so
Navi grounds out to first
3 outs. 2-0 Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
I'm going to take a wild guess and say
2 Es for Buck this game and 1 for Zobrist
Come on Garza,
Shut em down and let’s go back to work.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
2 and 2 to Gload
come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
3 and 2 come on Garz
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Garza walks gload
The hell… Buck you must hit a DP
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
02 come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
Then do something about it.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
0-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
Buck grounds to CF
Gload to 2nd, Buck to first
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
I like how you pretend that would be rude.
After bloody orgy, nothing is phasing these people.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That's very general
For what I know, that description could be the equivelent of describing Goatse as “a picture of an old man”
It's a picture of the shift key on a computer. Nothing else.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This is it:

It’s a popular troll/idiot deterrent at LL.
26 pitches for Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
27
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in Navi regresses
his bat will still be solid for a catcher and his defense has been awesome. Not worried about him.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
0-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
The Royals' lineup is absolutely abysmal
I expected a dominating performance today, and of course he struggles with these hacks.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
0-2 Garza... sit down Aviles Garza
You do not play for Rochester and longer!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
lack of Commas hurt my sentences...
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Another Foul...
I feel like I am on a chicken farm.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
1 out Gload to thid...
Buck still on first… Pena up.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
I just skimmed over his numbers, but didn't have have a few sub .310 seasons?
Also I would like to see his LD%, but I don’t know where that data is.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think LD% exists before 2004.
THT only charts back to that point.
BR has the data it looks like.
1044 of his 3141 hits were apparently liners.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's right, he's got a career 33 LD%
Say what?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... It's high...
But we are talking about Tony Gwynn…
Well...
Total LD/Total contact would give you % of Linedrive on balls hit. That seems right. Some data is missing though.
As of now determine line drives is a subjective thing.
BR might have different criteria than THT.
This will be clearer when HitF/X shows up.
As of now, determining line drives is a subjective thing*
Damn I just went all JI on myself.
"line drives"
Tony Gwynn didn’t usually swing hard. He was almost aiming for bloops over the infield. Those might technically be line drives, but their more like soft fly balls. If Adam Dunn was swinging, the same trajectory might be seen as a flyball hit off the hands, because if Dunn makes solid contact, he kills it. For Gwynn, solid contact didn’t make the ball go all that far.
0-2 count to Pena
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
Pena strikes out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions
Pena is Spanish for strikeout.
I’ll boo myself.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Thankyou, I really don't have enough time to boo you myself, or I would have.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
1 more out
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
2-2 tied came.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
DeJesus can hit
The only good hitter in the Royals’ lineup. Way to go, Matt.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
Nothing says "demoralizing" quite like a game-tying 2 run triple with 2 out.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Somehow, it's even worse than a homer would be.
I dunno, the triple just seems like showing off or something.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
3 outs our turn
Go Rays Go!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
Hinske bunts!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
Eh...probably not.
I think you have to look at all of THT’s special batting stats to get a clear projection.
Even then, you’ll never project a player like Ichiro right.
you got it bud!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it when it works.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Wilson was the last position player to play in a game!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
yeah.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
E3
bases loaded with Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
CC flied out..
come on Clos
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
1 out
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
44 pitches for Menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Pop up.
Dammit. Clos…
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
he thought.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
come on Evan
come on. Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
hush.
wait…
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
This would be a very Rays type inning
To load the bases and not score. And it’s not like Gil Meche is some great pitcher,.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
51 pitches
come on Longo.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
2-1 to Longo
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
2-2 to longo
come on Rays
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Swing and miss.
no runs. 2-2 tied game.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Dammit.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Whys that?
You think he is the best 1B in baseball? You are out of your mind.
So that is what?
10 games? You do realize he was hurt during that time span?
Wow domination!!
He is an average first basemen. And title contending teams usually need something better than average. He can put together dominating stretches, and hopefully he does it come playoff time. But he also puts up massive stinkers. Wouldn’t it suck if he put up one of his negative OPS periods in the playoffs?
That hurt hamstring didn't hamper him, nope.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he have it for the first handful of years of his careeer? If so that is pretty Baldelliesque. He has historically been average at absolute best. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’ll be average from here on out. But is a highly streaky average player acceptable for a contending team?
All players get injured too
Some players are Baldelliesque and some do it like Pena.
Good luck? Do you only watch Rays agmes? There are easily 10 first basemen better and you can easily make the case for 20.
Cabrera
Howard
Fielder
Berkman
Giambi
Youk
Morneau
Pujols
Lee
Teixeira
Gonzalez
Those guys are all guaranteed better players than Pena
Now you can make a strong case for the following
Kotchman
Loney
Jackson
You can a decent case for the following guys (I’d put Pena here, like I said average)
Delgado
Votto
Jacobs
Berkman!? KOTCHMAN!?
DELGADO!? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
::Breath::
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You don’t think Lance Berkman is better than Pena? Are you smoking something? He is batting 350 with over 1100 OPS
And I told you to take reading classes
I never said I didn’t like it. I said it is one of many stats. For you it is the only stat. I try to take in the whole picture.
But if you wanted to go by OPS Pena ranks 18th overall.
18th overall THIS YEAR
Have we forgeotten 2007? Should the Phillies give up on Howard? Would you trade Pujols for Berkman?
Berkman is worth 6 mil more
But if makign salaries a factor then Votto, Kotchman, Loney, and Jackson all make signficantly less than Pena…
Kotchman is awful.
Good luck prying Votto, Loney, and Jackson away from their respective teams.
I was just answering a question
You guys wanted to know which first basemen were better than Pena. CAnd I listed them for you. Pena is average.
You could make that argument
But I doubt the Angels would trade Kotchman for Pena straight up. Remember I was discussing the future as my origional post was (how many more YEARS are we stuck with Pena).
Are you being serious?
I don’t like his drop in walks from last year. But if he go .290/.370/.440 with a +10 glove, that’s better than average.
Brian
Do you have any idea of Pena’s history? I have a feeling you just started watching baseball.
Pena was a prospect with the Oakland organization who was dealt
Bounced around for a while and found a good home with Tampa Bay, where he’s become an above-average 1B
Shut the fuck up, noob.
If he can do that. But will he? I’m looking at his entire career, not just last year. If he can perform at 80% of last year I’ll be happy. I’m not sure he can do that.
I hope so. Im certainly not rooting against him.
What I see is the first handful years of his career he was a journeyman. Not even a top 30 first basemen. During the season where he was a minor league roster invite he breaks out and has a great year. The following year he sinks back into the 15th best 1b range.
I’m looking at his whole career, not just last year.
Yeah
That is RJs argument. I tend to think Pena wasn’t being blackballed. There was a reason nobody wanted him. If he was some great player he would have stuck somewhere. I tend to believe that GMs aren’t that dumb.
I tend to believe that GMs aren’t that dumb.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ok you win
i have no response for that. of course if they were stupid to trade kazmir does that make us “smart” for trading for him. but that was probably just blind luck.
Pena, pre-2007
OPS+ in seasons he got significant playing time: 106, 108, 113, 112. That’s top 30, probably top 20, and perhaps league-average (I’m not sure what league-average is for 1Bs).
Teams didn’t like the .240 AVG. Bad move.
And there are legit arguments for players like Millar and Overbay. Mainly b/c they walk more and strike out less than Pena.
forget the Ks
Millar and Overbay? No. Delgado? No way.
Kotchman’s ahead of Pena (love the D and OBP). Loney I could see, but Jackson’s right at Pena’s level.
Given the list, which 1B would be easy to acquire? None. And how many would be large upgrades? Half.
Well
Obviously you are trying to bust my balls, but if you read what I said then it would make more sense. I said there are 10 guys for sure that are better and you can make the case for about 20.
I listed 11 for sure better than Pena
3 more that have a strong case over Pena
3 more about on the same level as Pena
and 3 more that are slightly below Pena, but have an argument.
You haven't listed ANYONE who can be had.
Pena is and remains the best available 1B for your club.
What does that have to do with anything?
This is the middle of the season. You do realize that right?
Pena is above average...
Even when struggling he is average at worst.
Championship teams don’t have average first baseman? Here are first baseman that one World Series in the last ten years:
Scott Spezio
Mark Grace
Tino Martinez (x3)
Jeff Conine…
Please, Pena is fine…
The point is
You said that we need to get rid of Pena because he’s average. I would agree he’s average, but that doesn’t mean you get rid of him. You can’t properly replace him. There’s nobody worth signing that is significantly better at a reasonable price. Pena also plays excellent defense, amonst the best in the league at 1B, and you don’t even seem to consider that. You may have an argument for your opinion, but the argument you’re using is just flat-out wrong. You blast Howard earlier for having a crappy year than say you’d have him over Pena. Giambi is awful in the field defensively, his numbers are only ‘pretty good’, his best years are well behind him, and he was roiding up, yet you’d rather have him over Pena? Carlos Delgato flat out sucks and you put him on the same level as Pena? The points you’re making are so full of holes that we just can’t point them out quick enough to you.
Kericr
I didn’t say we had to get rid of Pena. I asked how many more years he was here. Big difference. I said he was average. Clearly that means if we can get someone above average then I’d be in favor. But not someone below average. And your bias is what is saying Pena is “clearly” ahead of Delgado. Personally I think he is, but it is not by a huge margin. Delgado has a history of performance. Pena has none. Their numbers this year aren’t that far apart. You are exhibiting homerism at its finest.
Homerism my ass
I just said earlier in this GDT that I wish he’d produce more offense. Patience with a struggling player is not the same as homerism. I’m done talking at you.
Let's examine what you said, shall we?
How many more years are we stuck with Pena?
That seems to imply you want to get rid of him.
Sure
You (or others)are asking me who we should replace him with when clearly I stated that he will be here for as long as we are “stuck” with him. If I thought there was a better attainable player out there I certainly wouldn’t have used the word stuck.
Thank you.
If you wanted Pena here
You wouldn’t have said stuck.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
is he a good fielder?
Last year’s advanced stats have him as average, maybe a touch below.
I respect you bringing up fielding, though. Pujols, Kotchman, Youk, and Lee appreciate it, too.
By EqA Pena appears to be the 14th best 1B in the league
Better than Cabrera, Howard, Kotchman, Delgado, Votto, and Jacobs amongst others.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So when he finishes in the top 10 you'll change your tune, right?
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course
Im sure it is not much different than if Jackson turned it around and started dominating. I’m suer you’d like him then. I like Pena, but I’m just not confident he can be a top notch first basemen. I’d love it if he dominates. I’m not rooting against him.
If Jackson dominated
With a bad process (see: walking guys) then no I wouldn’t “like” him, at least not in the way you’re describing. I “like” players with good processes, if that result doesn’t work out every time I know eventually it will because of the process.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
Wrong.
/Graham.
His EqA is higher than Miguel Cabrera and Ryan Howard.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If you scream for replacement
You have to volunteer the alternative. All we hear is “Pena’s a Bum. Get rid of him.” With who? Who would you sign for 8 million a year that’s a step up from Pena?
You have no say in this.
I will force bees on Jeff until he signs the paper.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Coach doesn't want you and the Red Weasel anymore.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks
that’s a deal we need to make to contiune competeing.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Throw in an expiring contract and you've got a deal.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Is SBN structured like teh NBA?
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
No, at work
with a slow computer
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Yeah I know
I posted before all the text had shown up. It’s really, really slow.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
We'll have to run that one buy Jeff.
If that doesn’t work, how about Robert?
I'll run this by Jeff/Graham/Matthew.
Hopefully we’ll have a press release tonight.
And in the future we'll have to re-visit the SRQ talks.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
SRQman
We can’t have him running around mistreating our assistant GM like he did last night.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like what I saw from LFOJL.
Garzamel wasn’t his best work.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We're worried he's going to flame out.
We might have to send him back to HH for seasoning.
Use Myspace to find Patrick photos.
From there, it’s all you.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no trade clause I have
kthxbye
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
Hah, you didn't read your contract.
Limited no-trade. You can be dealt to LL or HH.
NOOOOOO!
I am in trouble now.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls
BELIEVE in 08!
that sucked

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
Yikes.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
My gameday shows 15 for us, 10 for KC
3 for CC, 5 for Pena, 3 for Longo. 2 each for Gomes and Navarro.
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys are scoring it as LOB per player combined
I guess if you look at it that way, you’re right. I don’t look at it that way.
Top of the 3rd.
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
We'll see isn't the deadline Aug?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
For all the good things Longo does
He’s hitting under .250 with RISP.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
Garza can't seem to get guys out once 0-2
come on Garza.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
3 ks!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
two outs
ground out to Longo.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
Teahan bunts
gets on base. Two outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
1 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
1-2 Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
52 pitches.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
can Garza sit a guy down after going 2 istrikes?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
3-2 count come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
base hit. Gload.
Gload scores. Rays down 3-2. Anyone else pissed off>
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
come on..

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
wait 10 minutes for the video.
But, apparently, it was play where Teahan was running on a 3-2 count. Single to CF. CC gets the throw to the cut-off Gload keeps on going not a very sharp play all around.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
3 outs
3-2 Bad Guys.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
for those who can't watch
How the hell did Teahen get into scoring position? Bunted to get on base – no steals or pass balls that the box score shows, but he scored on a single? Did CC hold onto the ball and take 5 seconds to think about where to throw it too?
I am listening to the Radio.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Teahen was on first, running with the pitch
Hit to center field, fielded it then a lazy throw to second and he rounded third base and just continued running to home.
Come on Rays!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
Floyd gets a hit.
1 on, no outs. Gome on Jonny
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
DF Gomes NOW!
We need more production. This is Bull Shit.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
.196 avg?
He needs to do something that Ruggiano can’t do.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
58 pitches.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Navi.
Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Navi Walks!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
anyone actually scared of the Royals pitchers?
I am more concerned about the fact that Garza looks like shit today.
ba-zing!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good AB for Navi.
We can still get this one. The game is young and the offense is on the brink of Brawlfense.
B Rad the Ray Fan
9 = 8
come on ske!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
i dont even know who it is
but the radio guy called Meche “the mariners ace” hmm…. quite a bit wrong with that
Well, he was employed by Seattle for a while.
Never was the “ace” though.
why is the sky blue?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon lost a bet
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
70 pitches
for menche
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions
That too...
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ske pops up.
2 out. and the greatness of Benzo is up.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
72 pitches for Mechaleck-hi-lecka-hi-ni-ho.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Benzo Struck out.
That sucks ass.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
why so he can cause two errors and STILL strick out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Because if given equal playing time
Brignac is a significantly better player.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
Indeed.
Mostly because there’s only been 8 men on base.
that's team LOB
if you break it down per instance, it is 20.
Iwamura and Floyd are the only 2 who have yet to leave men where they stood
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
not how that works,
mostly it’s unbelievable b/c we keep getting men on with 0 or 1 out, and doing nothing with it.
why does MLB gameday list a LOB column for each player?
Can’t figure out why they list it if it doesn’t matter.
by Jason Collette on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%%
They are who we thought they were!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
20 LOB, this has the feeling of a post game Joe Maddon quote about:
“we need to have better situational hitting. we may get by with this stuff here, but against the Red Sox and Yankees, we’re going to need to do a better job hitting with men in scoring position…”
anyone else have that feeling?
We are obviously right there but is anyone getting the feeling that is gonna be a very annoying loss?
that inning was brought to you by:

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
When he pitched for Seattle
we all knew to get comfy. It was going to be a long game.
Come on BenZo
Can’t handle the grounder. 1 on. Missed bunt 1 out and 1 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions
2-0 count to DeJesus...
come on Garza.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Pop up
2 out. 1 on. Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
hes just not finishing
i dont know how many 0-2 and 1-2 counts he hasnt finished this game
a lot.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Garza doesn't sound sharp today.
Come on. G-right gets a base hit. 2 outs, 2 on.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
3 outs
Come on Rays.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Aki double!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
CC hits the ball hard.
but out. 1 out. Man on 2nd.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
awww... are they giving you Blue Ears?
Just breathe, we can get these guys.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pena popped to CF
Aki to 3rd 2 out.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
no.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Rays
three outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Garza Rage!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Garza
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
This inning was brought to you by:

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
Then use Viagra
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
whiskey was already a sponsor
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
CC catches ball,
1 out… go Rays go!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
CC catches ball
2 outs.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Garza
3 outs. Ground ot to Pena
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Did everyone vote for Evan?
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
Hah, Baker's smoking something again RJ.
He seems to think you guys would be interested in giving us top-tier prospects for Erik Bedard.
2-2 count to Floyd
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
Garza has a right to be pissed.
WTF is this bullshit. Why mess with success? I do not get this lineup at all. They are showcasing trade bait but it is not showcasing them very well.
Floyd stikes out.
Come on Gomes.. I can’t believe I just said that.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
I voted all through my work day,
and I used my pops e-mail, brother’s e-mail, mothers e-mail, and wife’s e-mail… all to vote for Evan… I was that bored at work.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Grondball
Gomes is out. 5 in a row retired. Come on Navi.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
I'm glad I can't watch this game
It is bad enough to see the results on gameday. Fail after fail after fail
Gameworks booo!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
slow computer?

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I stayed down here...
in my own world, as usual.
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
1 out nobody on.
Come on Rays!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Jul 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
not that it will make anyone feel better
but Garza is pitching pretty bad, our offense keeps failing, we arent doing the greatest on defense and yet we are down 1 run, impressive.

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