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Tampa Bay Rays at New York Yankees, Jul 9, 2008 1:05 PM EDT


RAYS at New York

1:05; FSN Florida
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


 IP ERA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
RAYS RH E. Jackson
 103.2 4.08
 100 5.38 3.91 1.38 0.87 .725 1.39 1.04 16.50
NYY RH S. Ponson
 66.2 4.19
 97 4.05 3.11 1.30 0.68 .812 1.62 2.23 15.81

Starting Lineups:

RAYS
2B Akinori Iwamura
LF Carl Crawford
CF B.J. Upton
1B Carlos Peña
3B Evan Longoria
DH Cliff Floyd
C
 Dioner Navarro
RF Eric Hinske
SS Reid Brignac
New York
LF Brett Gardner
SS Derek Jeter
RF
 Bobby Abreu
3B
 Álex Rodríguez
1B
 Jason Giambi
DH Jorge Posada
2B Robinson Canó
CF Melky Cabrera
C José Molina

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1.62 WHIP but only a 4.19 ERA

All of those ground balls. Jeter has the best range in all of baseball according to the Yankee fans so we’re totally doomed.

by Jason Collette on Jul 9, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit

I couldn’t believe he got to the ball last night where he got Navi out at second. That was a nice play, but honestly Navi got the worst jump humanly possible. He didn’t even start running until it was about in Jeters glove.

by Sveet on Jul 9, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Navi had a terrible jump

I couldn’t believe he was out by that much given how slow that ball was hit and Jeets had to impersonate a ballerina to get that ball off.

Bartlett would have made it look routine :)

by Jason Collette on Jul 9, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hitting better come alive tonight.

I noticed in the previews that Hinske, Iwamura, Navi, Pena, and BJ are all 500 or better against Ponson this season. As long as its not another game like Monday where they get LOB…

by kurros on Jul 9, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longoria

I think he rests his eyeballs during the day to prevent unnecessary sun damage.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Starting Lineups now with 100% more Briganc

Rays
Iwamura, 2B
Crawford, LF
Upton, CF
Pena, 1B
Longoria, 3B
Floyd, DH
Navarro, C
Hinske, RF
Brignac, SS

Yankees
Gardner, LF
Jeter, SS
Abreu, RF
Rodriguez, 3B
Giambi, 1B
Posada, DH
Cano, 2B
Cabrera, CF
Molina, C

by kurros on Jul 9, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Salas

I was a huge Salas fan last year. i know he walks a ton of guys but he can throw multiple innings and his command has been slightly better this year in Triple A. Seems like its about time for him to get a shot at upgrading what seems to be a declining bullpen.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's definitely an option worth looking at

Reyes will probably displace a position player when he comes back, but Salas has got to be the first choice in Triple A to replace any struggling relief pitcher thereafter. The problem is that the team also needs to activate Percival as well, and once those two get back, I think the team will be mostly satisfied with the status of their bullpen. Through it all, one of Glover or Hammel will remain, so there are still weak spots. That being said, I don’t know that the team will be pro-active in replacing either of those two given that Hammel has value but not options, and Glover has not been THAT awful lately.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jul 9, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it would take a trade

Even then however, a trade would likely be targeting a relief pitcher and not eliminating one. Salas might have to wait for the rosters to expand to get his chance to show something.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB.tv

Does anyone watch mlb.tv on a mac? if so, how much do i have to go through in order to be able to?

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing really to go through

Just make sure you have Flip 4 Mac and Silverlight installed.

by kurros on Jul 9, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alright i think i just did that

I guess we’ll see in about an hour

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Other possible give-aways

Carlos Pena personal fan, Gary Glover mop, Troy Percival game of Operation, Edwin Jackson signed copy of Mein Kampf, JP Howell radar ball (just slam it against your hand and you throw 102mph!), a mini-refrigerator from Dioner Navarro which he had to take off of his own back, and a BJ Upton hammock.

by FanDisplaced on Jul 9, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Nice Lineup Today

I’m hoping we can put some runs on the board

by Sveet on Jul 9, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heres to aki

and hoping he doesnt hit it to cano

by Acadien on Jul 9, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just hit everything over the wall

those assholes A-Rod and Jeter will turn into gold glovers against us.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great

lets make Ponson look like an ace now.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we all know hes streaky

he just needs to get out of this bad streak

by Acadien on Jul 9, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that isn't even a slump

first swinging off Ponson is just stupidity

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the pitch selection...

is the process you are referring to?

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a bold statement...

what if the scouting report is that Ponson will try and pump a FB past the batter in a 1-0 count, and Ponson went to the sinker instead?

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carl reads scouting reports?

He must get the same report for every pitcher.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying he doesn't.

I’m saying he doesn’t change his approach.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beane wasn't on top of his game

but of course since it’s Oakland, Gallagher will turn into an ace and Harden will get a season ending injury.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rob Neyer thinks this is going to Mulder for Haren, part 2...

i think that’s very possible, but was Gaudin really necessary?

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Jul 9, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point:
- Why can’t Sean Gallagher step into the A’s rotation without them missing a beat? He’s more of a groundball pitcher than Harden which plays into the Oakland defense’s hands, ranked first in defensive efficiency. Gallagher is only 22 and his K/BB ratio is 2.23, Harden’s career K/BB ratio is 2.25.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone pitches great in Oakland

Gallagher is gonna be great and eventually traded for another 4 prospects

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on EJ

don’t fucking walk a guy who is 1 for 16 against you and now A-Rod is up. I don’t see good things in our future.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's a Jeter-A-Rod-Madonna joke in there somewhere

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Jul 9, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god

Giambi had to get an rbi? That just makes it much worse

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DON'T SQUEEZE JACKSON

He can throw balls without any help.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

normally

I wouldn’t be worred facing Ponson. but we are mentally retarded with the bats lately.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope CC is watching Pena

because he even knows no to hack away against Ponson

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LEADOFF HITTER GETS ON

OMG WE ALWAYS SCORE WHEN WE DO THAT!

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LETS GO E-LO

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP.

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 9, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HEY CC

look at him! he has no control!

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone watching the game?

because Staats and Magrane are hilarious.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I am at work

I am listening on MLB.com. I have the MLB.TV package but for some reason I can watch everything but Rays games on there. It pisses me off

by PewterPirate55 on Jul 9, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well at least we didnt hit into a DP

figured we would get a DP then K, shows my confidence for these guys lately

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id be mad about that out

but compared to last night…this is progress

by Acadien on Jul 9, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on all star

you don’t even have to run to help us here

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MARGRANE HAS SPOKEN

get some fucking plate patience

by Acadien on Jul 9, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sigh

ANYONE see us scoring now?

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

....Okay. BRAWLFENSE.

Brignac is gonna fuck this up

by P Brady on Jul 9, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

right in the knee.....

money says that was intentional

by Acadien on Jul 9, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SEE THAT

NO CONTROL. why the fuck are they swinging so much?

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for playing America's #1 new game show

“How will the Rays not score?” I’m Chuck Woollery, we’ll be back next inning, stay tuned for a brand new episode of “Edwin Jackson allows multiple runners to get into scoring position.”

by Kevin Gengler on Jul 9, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Checking in from LL to say GO RAYS!

and that Sidney Ponson doesn’t look like an utter douche in his file photo, go figure

by seattlebruin on Jul 9, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay RJ...

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What point are you missing here...

Crawford doesn’t work counts, Crawford swings at ton of balls outside of the strike zone, Crawford makes contact but usually results in an out, and by not having patience he doesn’t get into hitters’ counts.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wind

Assuming I’m reading it right the wind is blowing back towards the first base line at 14mph.

by kurros on Jul 9, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I miss Bartlett :(

I never appreciated him :(

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 teams who want Fuentes:

Yankees
Red Sox
Rays

I guess we better get him.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

Has Ponson threw a strike yet?

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets give them 1 thing

no one is better at getting 2 out hits and leaving them on base. We are #1 there.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

WHAT ARE YOU SWINGING AT

I swear, I am gonna throw something at the TV soon.

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably did

You wouldn’t know.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't even go to the games

You’re the worst kind of fan. You are hyper-critical and presumptious. You pass off your opinion as fact and absolute. I never claimed that I knew the scouting report.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would say so.

It takes quit a fan to deepthroat Crawford at every stop.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been to more than 30 games this year..

and you and Patrick have turned down premium tickets offered to you by people on here.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He spends more time on the blog...

Talking Rays baseball, then you spend in going to games and thinking of baseball. GOing to games is an absurd way to judge a fan.

by td32 on Jul 9, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't offer you the tickets...

and I can’t see how accepting tickets would be be improper of you.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not taking someone's tickets because I don't want to owe anyone anything.

That was pretty obvious in my first statement. I’ll be attending a few games over the last 30, will it be more than you? No, but frankly I don’t care.

by R.J. Anderson on Jul 9, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are an awful fan

Because you spend ALL of your time talking Rays baseball and posting interesting info for others….but you dont go to games and you are critical of CC

by td32 on Jul 9, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't seem like ...

you really care if it’s shit. And that doesn’t explain how accepting tickets would be improper.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Jul 9, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I beg your pardon?

I can’t speak for R.J., but I’ve never been offered premium tickets by any user on this site.

If you want to assert that you’re a better fan based on your own made-up criteria, fine. But I would argue that the amount of time R.J. spends on keeping up this site and running a community devoted to the team more than fulfills his obligation as a fan. In doing so, he stokes interest in the team, which in turn might encourage some of his readers to take more of an interest in the team than they otherwise would. These users might then devote dollars to the team.

And for the record, I’ve been to 18 games next year. I would love to attend more, but it is simply not within my means at the the moment to do so.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Jul 9, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are you a better fan?

Because you attend more games? That is an asinine argument

by td32 on Jul 9, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Willis, you need to take the blinders off

Having played the game, and pitched at a high level, I can tell you that CC is a hitter of little patience. He is a hacker. He has no approach at the plate. It is obvious to anyone that understands the game, FOr God’s sake, he cant even bunt and he is one of the fastest players in baseball. He could care less what the scouting reports say, because he NEVER has patience.

by td32 on Jul 9, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

Wait, what?

by P Brady on Jul 9, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sox are down 3-0

So what inning do they come back and win in? 8th? 9th?

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF Ponson is dogshit

watch the balls and wait for a pitch you can drive. Why is everyone pressing so hard right now.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Jul 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shows so much about our bats

that we are worried down 1-0 to Sidney Ponson

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm such a baby 'cause this offense makes me cry.

And there’s nothing I can do.

Longlorious.
Free Kila Kaaihue!

by RATW on Jul 9, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit Aki

you are just making Brignac look bad again

by joeybw on Jul 9, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs