8/1: DET (55-53) @ RAYS (63-44)
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Miner's K:BB ratio gives me warm feelings about this game, which means we'll end up walking all of twice tonight while striking out six times.
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Yankees Sign Victor Zambrano
According to Peter Abraham, the Yankees have signed 33 year-old righty Victor Zambrano to a minor league deal. Zambrano posted a 9.45 ERA in 40 Triple A innings this year.
Abraham indicates he will stay in Tampa and work out and is coming off surgery. Not sure what surgery that refers to, but Zambrano did spent time on the DL with an elbow strain last year. He also had Tommy John surgery in May of ‘06 as well as a procedure to repair a flexor muscle tear. At the time, it was thought to be possibly career-ending.
How do you have a sub-4 ERA with a 1.0 K/BB ratio?
And are the Yankees so desparate that they are signing a never-was that is coming off surgery?
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
Umm...
I think they like to acquire people who have some level of talent. Zambrano had great stuff. They signed him to a minor league deal. These things happen all the time. Mocking them for this is as stupid as it would be for Yankees fans to mock us for signing Ben Hendrickson or Heath Phillips. Are we so desperate that we’re signing Heath Phillips? A Yankee castoff with a 5.50 ERA in AAA.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
and he was d-e-s-t-r-y-e-d his first time out,
move price to AAA for fucks sake, it can’t hurt him, can it?
That's pretty impressive...
And his H/9 isn’t really that out of hand. He must be shutting teams down with RISP. Sounds like he matches up perfectly against the Rays.
Just for fun, there have been 16 players since 2000 to have pitched that many innings with a K/BB like Minor’s and an ERA under 4. Quite the rarity.
Ok you guys...
I’ve spent some time over at my regular haunt at BTF defending the Rays.
What are you guys doing to me?
The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.
Who are you at BTF? Mr2Bits?
I am, predictably, Esoteric. (Or, as of right now, “Esoteric roots for the two worst teams in baseball.”)
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Rafael Bellylard
The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.
*OF Rocco Baldelli will finish up a rehab assignment with Montgomery tonight, with the plan to play seven innings. It appears he’s getting closer and closer to a return, but Maddon said Baldelli will be re evaluated Saturday to see how his body responds.
Well… I suppose its time we start taking bets on whats going to happen tomorrow. I’m sure it’ll either be:
A) Rocco comes down with another “injury” and is assigned to another rehab assignment
B) Rocco is activated and optioned
C) Rocco is just plain activated and someone gets DFA’d
Personally, I’m taking B.
I don't see him as any worse than the options we have right now.
I say give him a shot. Worse case he sucks or gets injured and we option him.
We wont catch sucktitus
that’s for guys like Glover and Reyes
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If he does the above, he;s golden.
Magrane is spot on.
by EminenceFront on Aug 1, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Easier said than done.
In-game adjustments are some of the hardest things to do. Especially when you’re gripping the ball harder and trying so hard to fix them.
Kaz needs to get in a good frame of mind very quickly by relaxing and setting a rythm.
by EminenceFront on Aug 1, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me re-phrase...
MLB pitchers should be able to make those adjustments. Guys that are supposed to be #1’s HAVE to be able to make adjustments. If you are talking college or high school, or even minor league ball, I agree.
That's what they get paid for yes.
But that may be the hardest thing in pitching: consistency. Let’s see what adjustments he makes in the next couple innings.
by EminenceFront on Aug 1, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
so if we get shutout, and kazmir doesn't give up another hit, we'd throw a no-hitter and lose.
9 = 8
Yeah this game is bullshit already
This umpire couldnt call a fuckin strike if they were bowling. Mechanics are ugly yes but he is getting pinched too.
Look at the pitches from the first batter.
After that his pitching went to shit…. But the first batter should have been a K
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 1, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ten triples, and how many of them since the break? Seems like four or five.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Carl Crawford August OPS: 4.000
Let’s just stop time right now.
I root for the two worst teams in baseball, non-ironically.
Beej has like an OBP of .390, so whatever
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Kaz starts off with a strike ... wow
Somebody pass him a joint please he isnt blazed enough to pitch tonight.
question
do you think Rays would trade Price for Pujols and some cash?
I remember that retarded rumor.
His pitches were down.
Which is very very encouraging.
by EminenceFront on Aug 1, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well damn
Rocco is flying back to St. Pete tomorrow. So if all goes well tonight, and he has an ok workout Saturday, it sounds like he’ll be activated.
I sincerely hope nobody pulls a muscle tonight and has to go on the DL for two weeks.
That would be awful!
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
what would you guys do if
Friedman said during his interview that he is cutting Floyd, Gomes, Miller, Reyes and Hammel and calling up Rocco, Ruggiano, Price, Salas and Niemann
We may do terrible things if he did
by joeybw on Aug 1, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
if he did all that
he can replace Gross with Dan Johnson also, but that wouldn’t excite me that much.
random thought
Maybe we should trade for Homer Bailey in the offseason and try to save his career like we did with Jackson.
ok, I don’t know why I am still posting this, he wouldn’t have a spot.
Because we need more pitching prospects
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ and CC
A real treat to watch in the outfield
Yeah, fuck those above average, rangy, outfielders. Who needs em?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't belittle the point
They both could learn to hustle a little more
He lost the damn ball.
Where should he hustle to if he doesn’t see it?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is he arguing?
If he wins, isn’t it a ground rule double?
i wonder if Baldelli will ever be a regular CF again
and if that incredible speed he once had will fully come back
Upton will end up getting booed this year in the Trop
People are getting tired of him, I would venture to say the Gomes is liked by more fans than Upton. With Gomes they realize it is ability that keeps him from being an everyday player. With Upton they see the laziness and attitude.
We are so due to break this slump
Too many guys hitting below their career lines, RISP hitting ridiculously low. We are bound to break out. I was thinking tonight, since Miner is nothing special
He usually sees 17 P/G
I don’t know what’s up with him tonight.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Engrish FTW
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
AKI!!
A HIT w/RISP!!!!!!!!!!
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
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See his last start
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Oakland fails at offense
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
thank god for the wild pitch
because we are enjoying looking at pitches a lil too much(never thought I would say that)
That last pitch was ball 4
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This reminds me of that one game Kaz had against Texas last year
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we wont
with Rocco coming up, we wont cut 2 of our hitters, we love them all too much for some reason
We need Floyd's veteren presence
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, shit
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's he?
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys see it?
I will take a pic in morning. It said “Sign Barry and cure the blues” with Fiddler Cat in the middle. I got booed and peanuts throw at me.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
Pudge grounded into a DP
makes me smile. I hope Nady goes hitless and Marte loses the game.
and I wish kazmir would have an easy inning…..
Sonny
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Get enough figurines for the rest of the class
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in NY
if Rays make the playoffs, I have promised myself to overpay for playoff tickets and fly down to Tampa. I have waited so long for a playoff game. Of course, if they play the Yankees…..
minorleaguesplits doesn't update everyday, I don't think
And if Rocco hits two or three line drives and walks in another AB naturally it’ll go up.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Call him up
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's nice to know we've won more games already than the '06 team
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im sad though
because Davis, Price and Hellickson aren’t starting today.
I love just looking at the box scores when they pitch.
Praise Jeebus!
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He had literally mastered AA pitching.
1:1 K:BB ratio from a hitter is amazing.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
For those who missed it Fenton started talking sabermetrics on his show today.
How many radio hosts in this area do that?
I heard the tale end of it...
I was on the road, and he referenced Draysbay…was talking win shares and everything.
C'mon Kaz
3 more outs, then we take the lead, and you somehow get the win
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lets make some predictions
for the exact date Price gets the call
he has a start on August 12th, I think that will be made for Tampa.
Sept 1st, Rays
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Angel offense returning to form?
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's when you walk the first three hitters.
B Rad the Ray Fan
www.we-use-more-than-one-stat-here.com
If Kaz is hurt
I will do terrible things to Terry Francona
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That doesn't explain the first batter
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
or Balfour for that matter
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
HOW HAVE THE ANGELS NOT SCORED ON HIM?
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Graduated in December.
I work in Columbia now.
Did you hear is house just burned down?
I think he was back in Maine at the time, though.
Yeah..a buddy forwarded the article
Not a big fan of his….
THAT WAS THE SAME PITCH KAZ THREW!
And no, my caps lock is not stuck
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It's B.J., therefore it's bad.
With Carl or Bartlett that’s aggressive baserunning!
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There's also a huge difference between 2nd w/1 out and nobody with w/2 outs
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well....
That is something completely different. He stole 2nd. So you should say a guy on 1st and one out if you want to bring up stealing and how overrated it is.
Stealing second and third are different though
B.J. is fast enough that anything in play and outside of the infield should score him from second. The only difference is a wild pitch.
I think the steal idea there is pretty debatable with your best hitter up.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone get Maddon a copy of Moneyball
Runner on 2nd with 1 out. Absolutely no reason to steal with #4 and #5 up. Freaking ridiculous.
Just give him this
http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html
Dammit he reads BP, he should know this.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure BP has one on their site, let me check, but here's an 05
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Brilliant Observation
Any other pearls of wisdom to share? Like hit a HR if you can?
It's not a % of scoring
It’s an expectancy chart. The less outs and more runners the better.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, all of it is based on actual situations.
Same with run values/linear weights.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Class A Lakeland
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news, everywhere!
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by JMB on Aug 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
cardinals do it all the time
thats why i compare the rays to the cardinals because they both play great baseball. they play the game how it should.
When you smoke weed you just run over little girls on their tricycles
when going through Taco Bell drive thru
Rocco draws another walk for Montgomery....
He also has caught a few fly balls.
In other news, Dan Johnson continues to mash for Durham.
upton is honestly sucking right now
i havent seen him struggle this bad..
.375 OBP last seven days.
Not sure where his power is though.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMN HOMIE, LONGO FUCKED THAT SHIT UP
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
lets hope not
that means the red sox would have runners
Less or More stupid than RBIs?
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
More.
It’s like someone said “Hey guys, middle relievers deserve to have a meaningless number too!”
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
LIKE YOUR FACE YOU JUST GOT OWNED
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Sometimes I get so angry I go and punch Gary Glover in the face.q
Then he had to move :(
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
Your complete fucking awesomeness needs help*
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
I'd rather not fuck your shit up with awesome.
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
It was never really in place.
Plus it’s a GDT, so people can do almost anything.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently his arm is dead
"I'm like a retarded Adam Dunn mixed with Jason Bartlett" - R.J. Anderson
One of the greatest things of this season....
Is the pleasure of scoreboard watching on August 1st….. oh… I almost forgot going through a trade deadline for the first time.
All things LONGORIA!
True but....
Have you ever cared as much?
All things LONGORIA!
by RalphieTheRay on Aug 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is the no orange...
in the Tigers’ home uniforms? Do many teams have an away color?
All things LONGORIA!
because there is no "Mama Said Knock You Out" to look forward to
All things LONGORIA!
by RalphieTheRay on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe I'm just willing to "switch hit" for a guy like C'Los.
B Rad the Ray Fan
www.we-use-more-than-one-stat-here.com
Offense starting to click?
Not sure but they did get timelier hitting tonight… and a few passed balls helped too. I would love to see Pena and Longo get in a Home Run race that would help the team rather nicely.
Pena has been crushing it lately and has be due to break out...
Longo has also been good and I think we’re starting to see Carl really turn the clock back to last year.
B Rad the Ray Fan
www.we-use-more-than-one-stat-here.com
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