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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Edwin Jackson 8-7 22 22 0 0 0 0 130.0 129 62 61 16 57 75 4.22 1.43

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - R.A. Dickey 3-6 20 11 0 0 0 0 88.2 96 43 43 10 38 48 4.36 1.51

Three quick facts about R.A. Dickey:

- He doesn't have a Ulnar Collateral Ligament (think: Tommy John Surgery)

- He throws a knuckleball.

- He might be related to a celebrity.

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Wow no unearned runs

for Dickey, don’t catchers sometimes missed the knuckleball??

by sofladude77 on Aug 10, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure that passed balls and wild pitches don't make a run unearned

they definitely aren’t errors.

reason #74 that errors and the differentiation between earned and unearned runs are dumb

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

i’m sure knucklers induce more passed balls, though, which is really as much their fault as the catcher’s.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 1:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i haven't seen a whole different one for knuckleballers

can you point me there?

i know the whole BABIP thing doesn’t really hold—knuckleballers do tend to hold hitters to lower BABIPs

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His obviously isn't as fluttery as Wakefield's

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Aug 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It'll be interesting to see if Upton is on the team today after last night's baserunning on CC's double.

If we’re going to be negative, we might as well go to the hilt.

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Aug 10, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the "i'm writing sports" dude is bad

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW

A Real Fan was me. If I wasn’t still so dead from not getting any sleep last night, I would have really stuck it to him.

by rglass44 on Aug 10, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that smart?

i definitely agree with not agreeing to sign beyond arbitration, but you’d have to think a deal up to then wouldn’t be that much below what he could expect to make in arbitration. and given that he’s a pitcher and has an agressive delivery, might the assurance of 80% of the money up to that point be worth a slight pay cut? he’d still have his free agent years to possibly make boatloads of money assuming he’s still healthy and effective.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I doubt he stays healthy, 5 more years until FA.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 1:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MVP: BOSSMAN

its my birthday, c’mon BJ take Dickey deep!

by daveh33 on Aug 10, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't want to laugh

I really, really didn’t. But funny’s funny.

by stpetelawyer on Aug 10, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since this is a GDT

Fucking shit cock ass pussy dick carson daly!!!!

This really sucks.

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT THE FUCK!

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DO IT NOW!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   4 recs

BOS 3
CWS 0

Top 2nd

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's good for the tigers

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carl this one is for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGIr6cyMdAE&feature=related

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was assuming he's part of the plan now ; )

keep hinske off the field, please.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BARRY!

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ruggiano and .... Gomer?

So the outfield most days will be:
Girly Arm (LF)
Lazy (CF)
Clutch (RF)

?

Crikey.

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So when the Yankee fans bitch about injuries

Maybe we should mention how we have dealt with DL trips to Garza, Kazmir, Percival(twice), Bartlett, Pena

Or how we dealt with suspensions? We also lost Upton and Longo for a few games here and there.

And finally, we lost any hope we had for Gomes

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd be happy with percival on the DL the rest of the way

not with a real injury, obviously, that would just be mean.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To clarify one of R.J.'s facts about Dickey, when he says that Dickey doesn't have a UCL...

...he doesn’t mean that he lost it to Tommy John surgery or some other sort of procedure. He means that Dickey, due to a genetic defect, was literally born without an UCL. It was never there in the first place. Which would be weird enough for anybody, but is positively insane in a Major League-caliber pitcher, especially given the fact that Dickey didn’t even REALIZE he lacked a UCL until the Rangers gave him a physical prior to signing him as a draft pick. Once they found out that he was missing a, shall we say, fairly critical piece of connective tissue, they dropped their signing bonus from ~$800,000 to something like $50,000. And yet he’s still managed to have a career. Pretty cool stuff.

Next to King Felix, Dickey is easily my favorite pitcher on the Mariners’ staff. He doesn’t have the best stuff, or overwhelming talent, but he’s a knuckleballer who’s succeeded despite obvious physical handicaps (again: HOLY SHIT HE DOESN’T HAVE A UCL) and boneheaded treatment by the M’s organization.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of which is to say, I hope he humiliates the Rays.

Hey, I love you guys, but I gotta revert to M’s fandom when a pitcher I actually like is at the plate. As with last night, if he’s out of the game and the bullpen/defense predictably fucks shit up for him, putting a win out of reach, I will be able to pull for the Rays again.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You M's fans make no sense....

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't understand: if we were an average team none of us would really feel this way (though I suspect we'd still admire the Rays).

But the fact that we’re THIS FRICKIN’ BAD this season means that we have a shot to get the #1 draft pick for He Who Has Been Named Too Much. Therefore, while we generally want success for pitchers who we like (Felix, Dickey, RRS now), honestly who cares less about meaningless wins? What on earth would be gained by finishing the season with the THIRD worst record in the majors rather than the worst? Nothing, and in fact something extremely tangible would be lost.

It’s not about lacking pride in our team (though we’re a sorry bunch right now), it’s about wanting us to be better in the future.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To put it another way: look at what the Rays were able to get out of their several #1 draft picks.

Shit like that really helps a team in need of rebuilding.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get that

it’s just you want 3 out of 5 of your starters to do well and mostly win.

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Put into those terms

I get it now

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prior to yesterday it was 2 out of 5.

We converted from a minority to a majority overnight with the accession of RRS to the rotation.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he wasn't always a knuckler, right?

this was a semi-recent conversion. or am i totally wrong on that?

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard something about him not having a UCL.

I haven’t seen you mention it so I figured I’d bring it up.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I want to clarify your point, since nobody else has brought it up yet:

When you say that he doesn’t have a UCL, you mean that he was BORN WITHOUT ONE HOLY GUACAMOLE DOOD.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same plan as Gallaraga, Smith, etc...

If he is gonna set us down then all we gotta do is make him work and pray they bring Bautista in again.

Also, after those 46 pitches last night, it’s safe to say their best reliever(in their minds anyway) is not going to be used.

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ONE IN MIDDLE PLZ!

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you accuse Mariners fans of being weird.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but yet

the same guy with the Barry sign and the Garza sign and the Go Ape picture :)

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You walk a thin line.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's about the pour here

I swear it waits for the game everyday, I may have to use gameday AGAIN….

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn, we have a day off tomorrow

We gotta win, a loss and then a break sucks so bad(All Star Break was pure hell)

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOS 3
CWS 3

Bot 3rd

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I fell asleep last night, after the deflating Rays win, consoling myself with fantasy dreams....

...about either the Twins or the White Sox keeping both the Yanks and the Great Satan out of the playoffs altogether. How sweet it would be to see a Rays-only AL East postseason.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

go White Sox

win the battle of the Sox

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm so mixed right now.

On one hand: Carl : (
On the other hand: Rocco! :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)

:|

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I thought Rocco could be relied upon, I would be okay with this.

But damn those freak mitochondrial disorders….

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 3:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOS 3
CWS 5

Bot 3rd

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DAYDREAM FANTASY...ONE STEP CLOSER...TO REALITY...

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 3:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

WTF happened to Buchholz? His ERA’s over 6 now.

by Vin on Aug 10, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunno, but this game he’s throwing a lot of hangers.

HR: Dye, Quentin, Thome

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Buchholz got improbably lucky facing a godawful team (to throw his no-hitter). He's gotten arrogant and flaky since then.

He has talent, but it’s a very open question whether he’ll ever put it together at this point. I think Jon Lester is a much more solid bet than Buchholz.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So if Carl does return(plz), we will prob do it right before September

So a few days from then can we please go

C Navarro
1B Pena
2B Iwamura
SS Bartlett
3B Longoria
LF Crawford
CF Upton
RF Ruggiano
DH Baldelli

Bench: Riggans, Hinske, Gross, Floyd(just a realist), Aybar and Jaso

Rotation: Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Price, Sonnanstine (i have much more trust in him than EJ)

Bullpen: Percival, Balfour, Wheeler, Howell, Bradford, Salas, Niemann, Hammel

If ALL of that happens, we will not be beat, and I am guessing most of it will happen

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's the rule on taking players returning from the DL into the postseason?

I’m embarrassed to say that I don’t remember.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 10, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I be the, music baseball biz number one supplier

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 3:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am so happy that

the Red Sox and Yankees just keep thinking Buchholz and Kennedy will do anything this year

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DID SONNY?

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wtf, why?

I wanted the beard to be there in his return

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also he said he would shave when he got back

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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just keeps getting worse...

LF Carl Crawford is on the disabled list with a right hand injury that could sideline him for six to eight weeks and possibly require season-ending surgery.

“It ain’t looking good, either way it goes,’’ Crawford said this morning.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Aug 10, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT THE FUCK?!

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BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damnit what is Joe Saunders doing

Has already given the Yankees 2 runs in the 1st

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manny Ramirez may be back in the American League East next season.

Citing several sources, the New York Post reported Saturday that the slugger wants to sign a free-agent deal with the New York Yankees this offseason.

“He wants to play for the Yankees so he can get at the Red Sox,” a close friend of Ramirez’s told The Post.

Wish he didn’t want so much money.

by Vin on Aug 10, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yankees optioned RHP Ian Kennedy to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Aug 10, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what is the rotation now?

Pettitte
Mussina
Ponson
Rasner
Giese

would be my guess, ugly

by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Passed Balls FTW!

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ROCCO!

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rocco will fit right in, won't he.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoops

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YESYESYESYESYES GOD YES

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BOOTS WITH FURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah, mised the "Tha"

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by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-3

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, how do you iknow that?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll be up before Sept 1st

Of course they can make some shady moves to get around it. Either way I am pretty confident you’ll see Price for the stretch run + the playoffs

by matthan on Aug 10, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just about to say

Try not to pop-up Aybar unless its out of the park! Yeah!!!

by fogelberg on Aug 10, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

rec'd

the world needs more PeeWee gifs.

by daveh33 on Aug 10, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh edwin.

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by P Brady on Aug 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Double play w/ bases loaded.. White Sox still up 6-5

by RATW on Aug 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs