8/10: RAYS (70-46) @ SEA (45-71)
Tampa Bay Rays at Seattle Mariners, Aug 10, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
Three quick facts about R.A. Dickey:
- He doesn't have a Ulnar Collateral Ligament (think: Tommy John Surgery)
- He throws a knuckleball.
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i'm pretty sure that passed balls and wild pitches don't make a run unearned
they definitely aren’t errors.
reason #74 that errors and the differentiation between earned and unearned runs are dumb
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
i’m sure knucklers induce more passed balls, though, which is really as much their fault as the catcher’s.
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i haven't seen a whole different one for knuckleballers
can you point me there?
i know the whole BABIP thing doesn’t really hold—knuckleballers do tend to hold hitters to lower BABIPs
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His obviously isn't as fluttery as Wakefield's
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
by Orlando Rays on Aug 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It'll be interesting to see if Upton is in the lineup today after last night's baserunning on CC's double.
9 = 8
It'll be interesting to see if Upton is on the team today after last night's baserunning on CC's double.
If we’re going to be negative, we might as well go to the hilt.
Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.
by Orlando Rays on Aug 10, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if you wanna go negative...
You’ll enjoy this gem that popped up in my Google Alerts.
"I hate the people that love me, and they hate me!"
the "i'm writing sports" dude is bad
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So Tim Lincecum wants to go year to year with his contracts.
What a selfish, lazy, money hungry bastard.
is that smart?
i definitely agree with not agreeing to sign beyond arbitration, but you’d have to think a deal up to then wouldn’t be that much below what he could expect to make in arbitration. and given that he’s a pitcher and has an agressive delivery, might the assurance of 80% of the money up to that point be worth a slight pay cut? he’d still have his free agent years to possibly make boatloads of money assuming he’s still healthy and effective.
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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt he stays healthy, 5 more years until FA.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
I didn't want to laugh
I really, really didn’t. But funny’s funny.
by stpetelawyer on Aug 10, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be at the game tonight, anyone know the line up yet?
Would suck if I missed seeing Longoria again.
And I'm sure he is fine, they just don't want to risk anything with Longoria.
Why won’t maddon think of me for once. This is as bad as Todd Kala’s refusing to sign autograph’s last night.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 10, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
OH FUCK
Crawford on DL, Baldellli back
LF Carl Crawford is on the DL with what he said could be ligament damage in his right hand and Rocco Baldelli is activated and starting in RF.
9 = 8
hopefully we can keep winning til September
because for some reason, we wont be seeing Ruggiano until then.
Since this is a GDT
Fucking shit cock ass pussy dick carson daly!!!!
This really sucks.
by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK!
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by SRQman on Aug 10, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
that's good for the tigers
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Carl this one is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGIr6cyMdAE&feature=related
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not to be pessimistic, but what's the plan if Baldelli looks completely overmatched at the plate his first week?
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i was assuming he's part of the plan now ; )
keep hinske off the field, please.
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Ruggiano and .... Gomer?
So the outfield most days will be:
Girly Arm (LF)
Lazy (CF)
Clutch (RF)
?
Crikey.
So when the Yankee fans bitch about injuries
Maybe we should mention how we have dealt with DL trips to Garza, Kazmir, Percival(twice), Bartlett, Pena
Or how we dealt with suspensions? We also lost Upton and Longo for a few games here and there.
And finally, we lost any hope we had for Gomes
i'd be happy with percival on the DL the rest of the way
not with a real injury, obviously, that would just be mean.
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To clarify one of R.J.'s facts about Dickey, when he says that Dickey doesn't have a UCL...
...he doesn’t mean that he lost it to Tommy John surgery or some other sort of procedure. He means that Dickey, due to a genetic defect, was literally born without an UCL. It was never there in the first place. Which would be weird enough for anybody, but is positively insane in a Major League-caliber pitcher, especially given the fact that Dickey didn’t even REALIZE he lacked a UCL until the Rangers gave him a physical prior to signing him as a draft pick. Once they found out that he was missing a, shall we say, fairly critical piece of connective tissue, they dropped their signing bonus from ~$800,000 to something like $50,000. And yet he’s still managed to have a career. Pretty cool stuff.
Next to King Felix, Dickey is easily my favorite pitcher on the Mariners’ staff. He doesn’t have the best stuff, or overwhelming talent, but he’s a knuckleballer who’s succeeded despite obvious physical handicaps (again: HOLY SHIT HE DOESN’T HAVE A UCL) and boneheaded treatment by the M’s organization.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
All of which is to say, I hope he humiliates the Rays.
Hey, I love you guys, but I gotta revert to M’s fandom when a pitcher I actually like is at the plate. As with last night, if he’s out of the game and the bullpen/defense predictably fucks shit up for him, putting a win out of reach, I will be able to pull for the Rays again.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
You M's fans make no sense....
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You don't understand: if we were an average team none of us would really feel this way (though I suspect we'd still admire the Rays).
But the fact that we’re THIS FRICKIN’ BAD this season means that we have a shot to get the #1 draft pick for He Who Has Been Named Too Much. Therefore, while we generally want success for pitchers who we like (Felix, Dickey, RRS now), honestly who cares less about meaningless wins? What on earth would be gained by finishing the season with the THIRD worst record in the majors rather than the worst? Nothing, and in fact something extremely tangible would be lost.
It’s not about lacking pride in our team (though we’re a sorry bunch right now), it’s about wanting us to be better in the future.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
To put it another way: look at what the Rays were able to get out of their several #1 draft picks.
Shit like that really helps a team in need of rebuilding.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
I get that
it’s just you want 3 out of 5 of your starters to do well and mostly win.
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We wanted Glover to fuck up just enough to get booted, but not enough for us to lose.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Put into those terms
I get it now
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Prior to yesterday it was 2 out of 5.
We converted from a minority to a majority overnight with the accession of RRS to the rotation.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
he wasn't always a knuckler, right?
this was a semi-recent conversion. or am i totally wrong on that?
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You are correct. I'm not sure what prompted the conversion, whether it was injury concerns (to repeat it again: no UCL) or a realization that the knuckleball was a way to make it in the bigs.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
I heard something about him not having a UCL.
I haven’t seen you mention it so I figured I’d bring it up.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to clarify your point, since nobody else has brought it up yet:
When you say that he doesn’t have a UCL, you mean that he was BORN WITHOUT ONE HOLY GUACAMOLE DOOD.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Same plan as Gallaraga, Smith, etc...
If he is gonna set us down then all we gotta do is make him work and pray they bring Bautista in again.
Also, after those 46 pitches last night, it’s safe to say their best reliever(in their minds anyway) is not going to be used.
ONE IN MIDDLE PLZ!

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And you accuse Mariners fans of being weird.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
He's the same guy with the blumpkin cake.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
but yet
the same guy with the Barry sign and the Garza sign and the Go Ape picture :)
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You walk a thin line.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Like the great Fleetwood Mac song from Tusk.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Damn, we have a day off tomorrow
We gotta win, a loss and then a break sucks so bad(All Star Break was pure hell)
I fell asleep last night, after the deflating Rays win, consoling myself with fantasy dreams....
...about either the Twins or the White Sox keeping both the Yanks and the Great Satan out of the playoffs altogether. How sweet it would be to see a Rays-only AL East postseason.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
I'm so mixed right now.
On one hand: Carl : (
On the other hand: Rocco! :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
Carl :(
Rocco :)
:|
If I thought Rocco could be relied upon, I would be okay with this.
But damn those freak mitochondrial disorders….
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
DAYDREAM FANTASY...ONE STEP CLOSER...TO REALITY...
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Buchholz got improbably lucky facing a godawful team (to throw his no-hitter). He's gotten arrogant and flaky since then.
He has talent, but it’s a very open question whether he’ll ever put it together at this point. I think Jon Lester is a much more solid bet than Buchholz.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
So if Carl does return(plz), we will prob do it right before September
So a few days from then can we please go
C Navarro
1B Pena
2B Iwamura
SS Bartlett
3B Longoria
LF Crawford
CF Upton
RF Ruggiano
DH Baldelli
Bench: Riggans, Hinske, Gross, Floyd(just a realist), Aybar and Jaso
Rotation: Kazmir, Shields, Garza, Price, Sonnanstine (i have much more trust in him than EJ)
Bullpen: Percival, Balfour, Wheeler, Howell, Bradford, Salas, Niemann, Hammel
If ALL of that happens, we will not be beat, and I am guessing most of it will happen
What's the rule on taking players returning from the DL into the postseason?
I’m embarrassed to say that I don’t remember.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
There isn't a worse place for him to go
I can’t wait until we see his stats as a Rockie after the season
by joeybw on Aug 10, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am so happy that
the Red Sox and Yankees just keep thinking Buchholz and Kennedy will do anything this year
DID SONNY?
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Also he said he would shave when he got back
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It just keeps getting worse...
LF Carl Crawford is on the disabled list with a right hand injury that could sideline him for six to eight weeks and possibly require season-ending surgery.
“It ain’t looking good, either way it goes,’’ Crawford said this morning.
9 = 8
His offense won't be hard to replace
His defense will.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I see a theme here
I’m not large or black so I should be okay
by stpetelawyer on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd link
http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8817903
Not a fan of Hayes, so tasteless jokes are in his future.
Chef would have never came back
Trey & Matt really pissed him off when they made fun of his religion, Scientology.
WHAT THE FUCK?!
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Anyone watching the Sox game?
Ortiz just totally dogged a groundball out. I have a feeling he won’t be sat for a day.
Manny Ramirez may be back in the American League East next season.Citing several sources, the New York Post reported Saturday that the slugger wants to sign a free-agent deal with the New York Yankees this offseason.
“He wants to play for the Yankees so he can get at the Red Sox,” a close friend of Ramirez’s told The Post.
Wish he didn’t want so much money.
God, Manny would own so hard here.
We have a touch tank. Someone tell him.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
What would it hurt letting him play with the rays during the top half of innings?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
HE INJURED HIMSELF ON A CHECK SWING???????????????
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
guys injure themselves on check swings all the time,
but please, go out of your way to bash CC per usual…
Oh, and I'm not bashing here. I'm just..confused. he had to have felt it at the AB right? Did anyone see anything?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
That would be amazing...
Skinniest 3TO ever?
I'm not saying the guy is a cripple
I’m just saying there isn’t much difference.
He did hit it back to the pitcher
that is a good first step.
...Or they want to make sure he can pitch to AAA before rushing him to the ML.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
He'll be up before Sept 1st
Of course they can make some shady moves to get around it. Either way I am pretty confident you’ll see Price for the stretch run + the playoffs
Super happy
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They're nothing alike.
Rocco isn’t a self righteous douche bag.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see Rocco leaving...
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Perhaps not self-righteous.
But Jesus this, Jesus that gets annoying.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You must hate Zobrist then.
Also, considering what he’s put himself through, I have little problem with him using whatever mechanisms he feels are necessary to keep himself on the straight and narrow.
Also, even the slightest failure will illicit the loudest “WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW” responses. Which is funny.
YES YES
ROCCO!
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"The Rays hitting Dickey hard"
.....
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I will give Rocco my Mitochondrii
I just don’t use them
by davelrogers on Aug 10, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why does it hurt R.J.?
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Rocco... You proved me wrong welcome back
Excellet AB in your first plate appearance. I saw him play two months ago in Sarasota when he was with Vero Beach. I didn’t think he would be back at all then. Goes to show why I should not quit my day job to become a baseball scout. Glad to have him back it couldn’t have come at a more needed time. Evan needs to be back soon too. This team loses some swagger and excitement to watch for me without him in the lineup.
Can any of you explain the thought process behind the cell phone waver?
1) Why do this? Dont they realize how cheezy it is?
2) how do they know the camera is on them?
I went out last night....
Drank a good deal of burbon, grabbed a cab home. Long story short, I don’t remember this but I woke up this morning on my couch with the Extra Innings channel on and the game day thread open on my laptop.
I don't even wear pants in these threads.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
who wears clothes in these threads?
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it was that or walk, i have no car
....and the pants were near the front door. Why are my drunk priorities the Game Day Thread?
The Woonsocket Rocket:: The Relaunch
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Clone wars....
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Just saying while everybody is worried about diversity and political correctness.. China is building a starfleet of clones.
by bucpimpin on Aug 10, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This might be my favorite comment ever.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
KEEP BUNTING MARINERS
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Buckholz did not look good at all today.
I thought he was going to put it together in the second half this year.
Wakefeild to the DL. Shoulder.
BJ UPTON!
yes!
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I HATE DUEMIG!
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I HATE UPTON. THAT NO GOODER!
-Duemig and callers.
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Is it bad I wanna sock him in his face....
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plz be sarcasm....
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