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BERA Update

It's been a while, but here are the newest batch of BERAs.Remember the BERA is simply a projection of what the pitcher's ERA should be based on 30 seasons worth of total bases and ERA data.

Pitcher ERA IP   BB   TB   TOTAL BPIP BERA
Shields  3.65 158 25 246 271 1.72 3.59
Sonnanstine  4.4 141 24 253 277 1.96 4.37
Jackson  4.07 137 59 219 278 2.03 4.58
Garza  3.88 135 44 196 240 1.78 3.8
Kazmir  3.2 104 44 149 193 1.86 4.03
Howell  2.48 65.3 32 70 102 1.56 3.1
Hammel  4.33 62.3 28 101 129 2.07 4.71
Wheeler  2.72 49.7 16 64 80 1.61 3.25
Percival  3.58 37.7 15 52 67 1.78 3.78
Miller  4.75 30.3 19 39 58 1.91 4.21
Balfour 1.3 34.7 14 19 33 0.95 1.17

 

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What is this stat RJ?

30 year projection? That would make Percival 70+ years old, I don’t think he would be effective at 72?

But seriously….what is this? How is this usable?

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Aug 11, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Basically think of BPIP as SLG for WHIP.

And BERA is just to put it into a scale that most people are comfortable with while showing who’s been lucky/unlucky ERA wise.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 11, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

any stats on the knuckle scratcher?

While yes he may be getting a little lucky, JP is still pretty damn good. I dont understand why we have been using him for 1 out lately.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 11, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

-roto

KTAR 620 in Arizona reports that the Diamondbacks have acquired Adam Dunn from the Reds for three prospects.
According to the radio station, the Reds will receive pitching prospect Dallas Buck and two players to be named later.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Aug 11, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you Dodgers, you've managed to screw over the Rays twice in one year.

Chances are, Arizona doesn’t give two shits about Adam Dunn if the Dodgers don’t pick up ManRam.

by kericr on Aug 11, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this account for K's in any way?

That may lessen the effect on some pitchers, such as Howell and Kazmir.

by raysrule07 on Aug 11, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

Simply bases given up.

Although if you have any ideas on how to improve it I’d be all ears.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 11, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having been involved in this one

it’s important to look at these things in context.

Pitchers with higher BPIP’s should outperform that number if they have high K rates – allowing them to strand rather than advance runners – or high GB rates, which typically result in more DP’s. In fact, factoring in DP rates might be the single best improvement on this stat. But one could contemplate adding things like SB performance (+ & -), wild pitches, etc. as these are factors that impact bases allowed and are pitcher related.

The concept is that bases allowed is critical because it takes 4 bases to score – the thought being that it’s an improvement on WHIP because the latter treats all ways of reaching as equal, and clearly a HR isn’t equal to a BB. The goal was to devise a stat that is more predictive of ERA (or the sabermetic variants of same) than WHIP is, and WHIP may well be the most predictive at this point. But I believe RJ’s initial number crunching showed BPIP to be more effective in this regard. While ERA has fallen into some disfavor, that’s largely a product of the disproportionate impact unearned runs can make.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Aug 11, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phelps beat him......

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, yeah

Tiger Woods beats a lot of golfers. Roger Federer beats a lot of tennis players. What’s your point?

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 11, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phelps > that guy

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phelps > Every swimmer who ever lived

And ‘that guy’ won a medal for his country. Grow up

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 11, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did a lot of people

no need to get pissy.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the way you pour on the haterade

Every time anyone mentions anything positive involving UF. I take it as a compliment that people feel so threatened by the Gator’s success.

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 11, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope just find it annoying

you don’t see me post stuff about any of my other teams? Guess what I actually like Tebow and think he is a good college player. Sorry I don’t love UF.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So just so we are clear

Talking about the Olympics is ok, but being proud of an Olympian from your local area is annoying? You’re the one with the issues bud.

And you’re not shy about posting ad nauseum about your favorite music, movies, etc. But you apply a different standard when it involves UF.

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 11, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I tell you to stop posting the pic of the dude?

No. I just said Phelps beat him. Here want a picture of UF. Do whatever you want I am not an admit you can post whatever you want. I don’t have to like it you and don’t have to like what I post.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 11, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does USF.....

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sucks

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

sucks

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

sucks at football

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 12, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody who lost to Michigan last year

Should seriously reconsider their football program. Who loses to a team that can’t even beat a JV squad?

by kericr on Aug 12, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

methodology questions

So this isn’t a fielding-independent thing, right? More of a composite ERA? Given the individual events, how do they usually add up…?

And probably the biggest thing missing is some direct measure of OBP? (It’s included indirectly, because lower OBPs will result in fewer BPIP.)

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

have you compared it to composite ERA for predicting future ERA?

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet.

That will likely be one of my off-season projects.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 11, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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