Are the Rays trying to get Raul Ibanez?

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:20 PM EDT Comment 46 comments

Big Ken Rosenthal is reporting Washburn and Ibanez have been claimed.

SPECULATE AWAY BIG KEN:

If the Mariners were looking for another chance to trade left-hander Jarrod Washburn and outfielder Raul Ibanez, this is it.

Both Washburn and Ibanez were claimed on waivers Tuesday, according to major-league sources.

The claiming teams are not yet known, but Mariners have until 1:30 p.m. ET Thursday to work out a deal with those respective clubs.

The Yankees were not the team that claimed Washburn, sources say. They had interest in the pitcher before the July 31 non-waiver deadline, but consider their hitting to be a greater problem than their starting pitching. The White Sox, another team in need of starting pitching, have indicated that they do not consider Washburn a fit.

As for Ibanez, the Rays are looking for a hitter after losing both left fielder Carl Crawford and third baseman Evan Longoria to injuries, but the extent of their interest in Ibanez is not known.

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please god yes

by davidsmarch on Aug 13, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Doubt it

There’s almost no way the Red Sox don’t put a claim on Ibanez just to block us.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 13, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

According to ESPN's Rumor Mill...

FUCKING RICH ARILLIA? COME ON

Wednesday, August 13
Aurilia to Rays?
Rich Aurilia | Giants | Interested: Insider Only
Insider Only

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It doesn't really have more info than that

Just that the SJ Mercury News speculates that we might go for Aurilia.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What does Ibanez's contract look like?

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Here ya go...

2 years/$11M (2007-08)

signed extension 3/06
07:$5.5M, 08:$5.5M
3 years/$13.25M (2004-06)

$2M signing bonus
04:$3.25M, 05:$3.75M, 06:$4.25M
signed as a free agent 11/03
1 year/$3M (2003), avoided arbitration 2/03 ($3.4M-$2.75M)
1 year/$0.8M (2002)
agents: Dan Lozano, Michael Maas
ML service: 10.020

by td32 on Aug 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Free agent after this year

Not sure whether he’d be Type A or Type B, but I think he’s Type A. Thus, any trade offer would need to be better than the two draft picks the Mariners would get for him.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 13, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be stunned if he wasn't Type A

Even after a disappointing slump last season he ended up with respectable enough numbers, and he’s been a remarkably consistent producer over time (which is what Elias cares about) with an excellent season so far this year. I’d like to see Raul go to the Rays, but the Rays would have to give us something better, at the very least, than what we’d get with a first round + sandwich pick in the 2009 draft.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 13, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

arbitration might be accepted, and that's not a good thing

decent risk, though.

don’t love the prospect of him or hinske in the outfield, though. rather have Winn or what we have with Hinske at DH.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No chance Ibanez accepts arbitration. None whatsoever.

Given his year, his generally good health, and his track record, he’s in line for a 2/3 yr deal with some poor team overpaying for him. (I weep for a team that signs him to be anything but a DH.)

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I imagine its a bunch of words on several pieces of paper

Probably something like this:

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 13, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any truth to Bonds rumors?

"And sometimes, when it seems like all hope is gone, Life tosses you a special gift of a baseball game" . 7/10/08 BaseBallGirl headline

by LongTimeFan on Aug 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What are the rumors? Other then fan speculation...

by td32 on Aug 13, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bonds rumors?

Source?

by RayGuy3 on Aug 13, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On A's radio last night

Rumored to be “very close to signing bonds” and he could be in lineup as early as today.

"And sometimes, when it seems like all hope is gone, Life tosses you a special gift of a baseball game" . 7/10/08 BaseBallGirl headline

by LongTimeFan on Aug 13, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Locker cleaned out?

by RATW on Aug 13, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shit, they cleaned out Bonds' locker?

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where does he have a locker to clean out?

Gold’s Gym on Venice Beach?

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 13, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, is that the joke? Man I totally missed it.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Locker right next to STREEEEEEEET.

by RATW on Aug 13, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aurilia

If Aurilia is added , it better come with the waiver-trade for Ibanez or I’m really disappointed. What does Aurilia do for us other than he’s right handed? Ibanez I could most definitely live with and here’s why….If Crawford comes back before playoffs he slots back into left field and Ibanez moves to right. Not excited about Aurilia though

by RayGuy3 on Aug 13, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bonds

I realize the last part is a possibility being he’s so close to our games right now…but… I don’t see Friedman being so “bold”. I would fall down happy if we signed him because even at his age, it allows us to have some “scare” to our lineup.

by RayGuy3 on Aug 13, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Seattle sports radio KJR has confirmed

That it is the Rays who have claimed Raul Ibanez.

by weebs on Aug 13, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good! Now give us something worthwhile.

How about, huh I dunno, Brignac and Hellickson?

[cue flamewar]

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 13, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al Reyes and Edwin Jackson

(oh wait, I thought this trade was for Jeff Clement)

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 13, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, fuck the radio

According to them we claimed Gary Sheffield and traded for Huston Street.

...I’ll wait until its in print.

by Vin on Aug 13, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And traded for Jason Bay

oh wait that was Chastain. Beejus I hate that guy.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good god so do I.

by Vin on Aug 13, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

from a Mariner's beat writer

I had breakfast with an AL scout this morning and he told me the Mariners had not put Ibanez on waivers. The scout has a message service that tells him whenever a player from any team is placed on waivers or made available for any reason (released, DFA’d etc.). Ibanez has not been put out there or he would know. His team, he said, would have put in a claim—as would most others around the game with a shot at contending. This same scout confirmed to me that Washburn was put on waivers last week. From what I’m hearing, I may have been pre-mature in writing that he’d already cleared them.

by Jason Collette on Aug 13, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is why

radio sucks at breaking news.

by Vin on Aug 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

see below

maybe this scout just isn’t as privy as he thinks…

by davidsmarch on Aug 13, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Radio still sucks.

by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

for the record

Ibanez is an awful fielder—we’re talking Manny bad. His bat is respectable, but he would be the DH, with Hinske in an OF spot.

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by Sky Kalkman on Aug 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Worse than Girly Arm Hinske? Sweet Geebus.

by RATW on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not about his arm, it's about his GLOVE.

Seriously, go too Lookout Landing, scroll down the main screen until you find the sidebar section entitled “Raul Ibanez Takes Pride In His Defense,” and click on each of the links provided there. It’s unbelievably funny/depressing.

"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."

by esoteric on Aug 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Following your suggestion, I checked the clips of Ibanez at LL .. I’ll never make fun of Hinske again.

I also like how they like him as LF in quotation marks on the GDT lineup. Outstanding.

by RATW on Aug 13, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

* list

by RATW on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-10 runs in left so far this year. same thing last year.

have I mentioned Bobby Abreu’s at -23 runs so far this year. obviously some weird flukiness in there, but jeez. why the Yankees would DH Nady to play Abreu in the field is beyond me.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well someone's lying,

A”ccording to Ken Rosenthal, Mariners players Jarrod Washburn and Raul Ibanez were claimed on waivers yesterday. The Ms have until tomorrow afternoon to work out a deal with the claiming teams. Rosenthal says the Yankees did not claim Washburn.

At the least, the Mariners have a chance to unload Washburn’s contract. Ibanez is inexpensive, so they’ll want quality prospects in return. The Mariners can also elect to keep both players if they don’t like the offers.

The American League received first crack at the two Mariners, in the following order (omitting non-contenders):

Tigers
Rangers
Blue Jays
Yankees
Twins
White Sox
Red Sox
Rays
Angels”

by davidsmarch on Aug 13, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wonder who would have claimed Washburn?

Only teams on that list I could see might be interested in him are the Rangers and the Red Sox if the Yankees didn’t claim.

by kericr on Aug 14, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Visiting from LoneStarBall

And you guys dont need to trade for Ibanez. Granted, he is a good player, but when we (the Rangers) tried getting him, they asked for one of our top prospects, Chris Davis, who is beginning to deliver big time on the major league level. IMO, he wouldn’t be worth any of your top 5 or maybe even your top 10 prospects.
Lastly, I want to wish you all the best of luck, and hopefully you guys can help keep both the Red Sox and Yankees out of the playoffs, which would make it the best playoffs ever.

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by hinduplaya on Aug 14, 2008 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn't hear about the Davis thing.

That is remarkable. I swear Pelekoudas just flips to the team’s BA rankings and picks out a few names from the top.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

10:54am: The Twins didn’t win the claim on Ibanez, according to Joe Christensen. Ibanez doesn’t expect a trade, though the Mariners have not discussed an extension with him.

by davidsmarch on Aug 14, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs