8/14: RAYS (72-47) @ Oak (55-64)
Tampa Bay Rays at Oakland Athletics, Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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that dude ran down everything remotely close to him last week when we played them,
i’ll take his D over hinske any day. though hinske in RF looks surprisingly not like Johnny Gomes…
by davidsmarch on Aug 14, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as a mariner fan, i can assure you you do not want that.
he’s a disaster.
by weebs on Aug 14, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hitske hits cutoffs like its his job
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here we see why small sample sizes are awesome.
He’s at the Manny level of defense. Just awful.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for sure,
just saying. i’d sac the D for the O. or hell, DH him…
by davidsmarch on Aug 14, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how does statcorner measure LD%?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer when he does this

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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He doesnt photograph well enough to make up for his lack of defense.
by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 14, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me he looks half lazy-half hustle
so maybe some days he smiles in his pictures and other days he doesn’t.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ian kennedy has a 12.9 LD%...why is he so bad?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cause 12.9% is really good....
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeebus...Sonny has given up 62 xbh..
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's roughly 5/W
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Ibanez's bat more than makes up for his defensive retardation
Especially if we can hide him at DH a couple days a week
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard we have the best DH numbers as a team in the league
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm, I think?
Our team (as DH): .228 .300 .384
League average (as DH): .253 .337 .430
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is everyone expected to sign?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounding like Alvarez won't get signed
by rays1234 on Aug 14, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope it gets done...pitt needs this...unless they're gonna make a run for the first two picks in next year's draft
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Pirates want to get more pitching next year.
Thye have a lot of young position players now and still barely any pitching.
by rays1234 on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and what are the chances we sign lobstein?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lobstein = jewish crustacean?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on what I read in the Tribune today, I’m pretty optimistic that a deal will get done. Now, let’s sign Carpenter, too!
Drew
Eduardo Morlan = God.
by Devilray187 on Aug 14, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
10 minutes to go…
I guess nothing’s happening.
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Per the Star Tribune this morning.
The Mariners have a few more hours to work a deal with whatever team did win the claim, so we should know soon. The Rays are definitely interested, but the Red Sox might have put in a claim to block that move.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder why it hasn't leaked which team claimed him
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The M's don't like to leak info
I would have to believe if the Sox blocked it Gammons or Cafardo would know. I hope.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons only reports
in the best interest of Boston so depending on the fallout he might not go public.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW using Graham's new site
Name wOBA RV/PA bRAA RV600
Ibanez .360 .025 13.1 15
Hinske .364 .029 9.7 17.4
B. Giles .376 .039 18.7 23.4
The farther a player is from 600 AB’s the larger variance between bRAA and RV600. So basically Ibanez (who bats LH btw) is a duplication of Hinske. Do we really need another redundancy on this bench? Not to mention that he won’t be free.
For what its worth (pun definitely intended)
Jayson Werth .373 .037 11.4 22.2
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but Ibanez is an upgrade over Floyd, no?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently not by much
Name wOBA RV/PA bRAA RV600
Ibanez .360 .025 13.1 15
Floyd 355 .021 3.8 12.6
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's with Ibanez playing every day
and Floyd straight platooning. Silly to say he’s not better.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Splits
Ibanez:
.825 OPS against righties
.923 OPS against lefties
I realize it’s a pretty massive reverse split, but historically he’s never had trouble hitting lefties.
In any case, there’s a big difference for THIS team.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that he can field a position, run, and play everyday
but what about the veteran presence ::whine whine whine::
Seriously though, his numbers are 3.55 .021 3.8 12.6
so he compares close. But since he is actually a ballplayer and not just a stick then sure I can agree with that. Seems silly to dump him at this point after holding on for so long and he looks as healthy as he is going to be.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.55=.355
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying that Cliff Floyd spits blood on people?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That had nothing to do with us DFAing Reyes.
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by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying personal reasons shouldn't be our top priority with our moves.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fiddlesticks!
THis team was builf on chemistry, not pitching and defense!
by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 14, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was built on rock n roll
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Close
rock n roll was built on chemistry so it all works out
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
It sounds like Brandon Magee is going to be named a starting linebacker at ASU as a true freshman, so any chance of signing him has probably gone out the window. Local papers are reporting that he’s the best defensive player at the early scrimmages.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's going to end up pulling a Samarghazasi anyway
why wouldn’t he just sign now and make some real money in a sport that doesn’t eviscerate your body after 3 years
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I doubt the Rays are offering him that great of money
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he'll be a starting linebacker at....ASU
you really can’t beat that
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
after 2 months
he’ll be the iron chef of pounding vosh
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks buddy
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just rewatched it last week.
It’s less of a “osh” ending and more of a “ag” or “aj”.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ag
roll the g
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
either way, no signing bonus he can get
will ever pay for the quality and quantity of “vosh” that he will soon be pounding
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you're saying you'd rather be the starting LB at ASU
over riding on a bus, sleeping in a hmotel, and eating all your meals with 24 other guys for 6 months at a time?
Shocking.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if i told you that there are lots of cross-dressers/trannies
at said university
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we use Ibanez at anything but DH I will be very displeased
Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth
by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this game on television?
Mound Visit
by Mound Visit on Aug 14, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FSN
Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth
by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks peeps
Gonna leave work a little early and catch a Shield’s Gem
Mound Visit
by Mound Visit on Aug 14, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop slowing our bandwidth with your whining
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one is available only to LL premium subscribers

it’s my free gift.
9 = 8
by JI on Aug 14, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we get Ibanez, LL is gonna give us the "Raul Ibanez is really good a defense" package, right?
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may have this one.
Jeff was so jealous he didn’t sidebar it.
9 = 8
by JI on Aug 14, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and Gentlemen, a DH
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you guys just googling bad defense?
by GenghisJohn on Aug 14, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's LL's "Raul Ibanez is really good at defense" pictures
The on the site
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is getting gross
He is past Manny and into the Jack Cust level or if he tried less the Gomer blowing a bubble level
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every passing minute without news on this
makes me feel safer inside.
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be funnier if that only happened once
But I can remember this happening at least 5 times.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse fielder, Gomes or Ibanez?
Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth
by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outfield defense continuum?
B. Butler < Ibanez < Cust < ManRam < Gomes
Just a guess though.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for clarifying
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomes nailed someone at home last night.
Trying to score on a fly ball.
www.citadel-insurance.com
by SeanDubbs on Aug 14, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think his arm was ever a problem
I think it’s the over exuberance in the “hustle and bustle” department that causes him to misplay balls and generally lose sight of them
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His eyes are awful
He loses balls off the bat constantly. Other than that, he’s not a horrible fielder. He just gets really bad jumps because his eyesight sucks.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he has no idea what to do near the wall
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 14, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ibanez looks like the worst fielder, ever.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luckly, he's good with the bat and we need a DH
Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth
by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure if you made a highlight reel of anyone's bonehead plays
you could make them look bad. Ibanez’s reel just seems to be a bit longer than most. And set to the Benny Hill music
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSN never replays his mistakes and the HT announcers never are critical of him
If you only watch 2-3 games a week I can see why they would think he isn’t terrible.
9 = 8
by JI on Aug 14, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone have the lastest on ibanez?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross= clutch. David Price is the next big time pitcher.
by RaysOfHope on Aug 14, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
apparently he's made a career out of his ability to spike baseballs into the ground 10 feet in front of him
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you extrapolate that clip
you could say it is all he has ever done.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is really good at defense
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by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, didn't the deadline pass on whether we got ibanez or not?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On ESPN it says
He is likly to stay in seatle…cant link because its insiders only but if you go to the MLB page on ESPN its like one of the links
by hFLYNN on Aug 14, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not suprising if true
The M’s had a really high asking price for Ibanez at the deadline
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a friend's insider, i'll check it out
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hflynn....
Although Mariners outfielder Raul Ibanez has reportedly been claimed on revocable waivers, it’s likely that Seattle has decided to keep Ibanez, reports ESPN’s Buster Olney.
One source indicated Thursday morning that the Tigers have claimed Ibanez, while others say the Twins have claimed him. The latter scenario seemingly makes more sense because the Twins need a hitter, in the aftermath of the injury to Michael Cuddyer.
According to the Seattle Times, the Rays appear to be have the greatest interest in Ibanez since Carl Crawford is likely out for the season, but team’s like the Red Sox may very well “block” any deal the Rays try to accomplish.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is where being a really good team comes back to bite us in the ass
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if we want a guy that protects his hands on inside pitches
we like our batters to take those for the team on either a metacarpal or just the regular carpals
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S. is anyone else wearing a wriststrong bracelet until Longo gets back.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to grab one of those
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did R.J. say it would be an hour and a half before we knew if we got him?
Is the deadline today?
by plasticman on Aug 14, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill Engvall might possibly be
the worst “comedian” of all time. I prefer that ex-yuppie, turned trailer trash moron more. You know the guy with the hat and he doesn’t wear sleeves. Cuz that’s what rednecks do, right? Right?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A better question is what don't they do?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's much easier to say what they don't do
rather than what they do.
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Engvall might possibly be the worst "comedian" of all time.
I agree so fucking hard.
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point of reference
Watch this if you don’t like lol’ing.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seemed like an obvious "yes" to me.
hence the stupid, jerk like comment.
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like the cock blockers are trying to improve as well
With Lowell on DL, Sox could look for help
The Boston Red Sox placed third baseman Mike Lowell on the disabled list on Wednesday and will have first baseman Kevin Youkilis move over to third with Sean Casey replacing Youkilis at first. However, the Sox might want some more protection and could look to make a waiver deal for a corner infielder, the Boston Globe reports.
Some of the names floating around are San Francisco Giants infield Rich Aurilia and Houston Astros’ Mark Loretta.
Boston could also be interested in Gary Sheffield who was placed on waiver by the Detroit Tigers on Tuesday. Sheffield has made it clear in the past that he would like to play for the Red Sox.
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross= clutch. David Price is the next big time pitcher.
by RaysOfHope on Aug 14, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time's up, what's the deal on ibanez?
by davidsmarch on Aug 14, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time's been up for over an hour...
hasn’t it?
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Niemann and Mitch Talbot
for Jayson Werth is still a viable option
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not its not?
both would have to be DFA’d and clear waivers.
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn facts
My want clouds my judgement
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...yeah
nobody on the 40-man roster can be traded without passing through waivers…
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they'd have to pass through the entire AL first.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle has the first AL claim, which would make a deal for Ibanez a lot more plausible.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hypothesize
what would you give up for a guy that mashes, but subpar in the field
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toby?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ptbnl
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We weren't virtually shut down yesterday or anything...
(L) Iwamura
® Upton
(L) Pena
(L) Floyd
(L) Aybar
(L) Hinske
(L) Navarro
(L) Gross
(L) Zobrist
Meh…
by Vin on Aug 14, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's pitching
Righty McRighthanderson?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryan (Tampa) : Keith.. Will the Rays sign Kyle Lobstein before the deadline?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) Yes.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
except now the deadline is tomorrow.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commish holds overslot deals...
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how does the draft work if you dont sign a 1st rounder
would it be possible for Pittsburgh to end up with Strasburg and Alvarez next season.
BTW anyone watch Strasburg pitch yesterday in the olympics he is like Price pt2. They mentioned he struck out 23 in a game last season for SDSU
by Dbullsfan on Aug 14, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pit would get the #2 pick again
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I doubt they'd draft Pedro again if they couldn't sign him
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just need for Minnesota and Boston to lose
What we do is actually irrelevant. It would be nearly impossible for us to win less than 87 games at this point.
by matthan on Aug 14, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shut your whorish mouth
when it comes to jinxes
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though unlikely now, teams have been wiped out by tragic accidents
Don’t jinx the Rays…They are NOT Marshall
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hindsight
Anyone feel slightly let down that Andrew Friedman didn’t plan ahead for possible injuries and shore up the team? I feel like we should be aggressive while we still can.
by plasticman on Aug 14, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you realistically plan for injuries?
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winner Winner
and rec’d
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plan ahead
Basically, assume someone could get hurt. Identify which players you could not live without. In this case, if the offense is already not high powered, it makes sense to grab someone who can help. That way, even if you don’t lose someone to injuries, you have a boost or break even, and if you do lose a hitter, you’re not SOL.
by plasticman on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on BP once in the past two weeks.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They also reported this weeks ago
by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly I don't trust most of BP's "reporting"
But Goldstein is usually pretty good on signings from what I can tell.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't want to play for Tampa
all because of you
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a GDT, you could've said blow.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like T-Pain

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
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by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a moononites necklace?
and that guy has really yellow teeth he should brush once in a while
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we not allowed to say blow on non-GDTs or something?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer if people stayed away from personal attacks and such.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
R.J. is such a stat pushing, blumpkin giving, big ego douche.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SRQ is fat.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that what your boyfriend is for
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP = Shields
LET’S DO THIS
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP=The Zobrist
SLG “down” to .437, but 100 OPS+
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He already has a career high number of BB's
What can’t the guy do?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAY GUYZ
LUK AT ALL DA FANZ
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
perhaps they forgot about a little thing called
parks & rec day
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great another excuse for Californians to get stoned and hug a tree
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Californians = Scott Kazmir
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been able to watch the first couple of games
WTF is with the camera angle?
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BEEEEEEEEEEJ
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he wasn't so lazy he could've had a double
/sarcasm
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damnit, BJ
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you lazy sonofabitch...how much effort does it take to retag 2nd base
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finding ways to giveaway outs is funnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He thought the ball was going out, touched second, barely moved foreward and began running back to first when it was caught.
He didn’t touch second on the way back and was called out.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slight disagreement with your description
He wasn’t running back to first, he was jogging back to first.
Laying aside the brain cramp (which may or may not be chronic), please explain again why it just looks like he’s loafing on every play, when in fact he’s actually giving 110% on every play.
by Fox 71 on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ABS
Always Be Striding
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on radio was it close to going out?
If so no need to be halfway to 3rd, if it looked catchable no reason to be halfway to 3rd,
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Warning track
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Pena's fault for not hitting it out of the yard
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GOOD JOB HINSKE
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damnit Shields
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many great starts this year has Shields given us?
I seem to recall seeing something recently about him getting lit up more in the 1st than in subsequent innings in his starts.
by kericr on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happens to a lot of good pitchers
needs to get it together now
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMNIT SHIELDS
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian Anderson just said the word inauspicious
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He prally needs TJ now
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while in that situation, Magrane would have said
“Arrrggrgh I’m so drunk”
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF. how can we be expected to score more than 3 runs?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on Aug 14, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It only took him 4 pitches to give up two runs
now that’s efficiency
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at this rate they'll have about 25 runs by my count
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude
It’s the bottom of the first
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is quite the fan who is in it till the end.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Accuscore forecast 2 RA on Shields
so looks like its no-hitter after this
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's like people aren't used to Shields giving up one long ball a game.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HE'S NOT IN A DOME
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but he nearly gave up 2 within 2 pitches
by GenghisJohn on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless the final score is 2-0 or 2-1
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we lose like that
Then it’s not Shields’ fault
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it is going to be a "DAMNIT!"
kind of day.
by Gator80 on Aug 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shields recovering nicely
GET HIM RUNS NAO
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the fun in playing with a lead?
Playing from behind is much more interesting.
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what she said
to me
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you and your mom are that close?
by rayweaver on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got it brother
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit the reply button to reply to a comment
makes it easier to follow with what you are trying to say.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember when cliff floyd started off the year mashing HRs
those were the days..
by Albertrayon on Aug 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AYBAR!!!!!!
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WILLY!!!!!!!!!!
Omg we are down by 1 now! Time to jump off ship!
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FREE WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by JMB on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish someone would've noted that Floyd and Aybar were due for some progressing.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that would have been nice.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
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by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Now, you want a hand with all this,” J.D. asked, gesturing at the piles of clothes, and Stephen grinned and nodded, bending to grab one heap. J.D. grabbed another heap, and they chatted about Stephen’s classes as they headed to the laundry room. Despite knowing that their parents might only be a few minutes out, Stephen boosted himself onto the washer once he had started the first load, pulling J.D. close and kissing him again, wrapping his legs around the outfielder’s waist.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the next two months, J.D. and Stephen worked on their stealth skills. J.D. would slip from the room he shared with Tim late at night to ease into Stephen’s bed. They went to the batting cages far more than necessary, taking back roads and pulling off into abandoned parking lots to make out in the back seat. It was some surreal jumble of heaven and hell for both of them. The time they could steal together was so precious, but both of them were constantly anxious, worrying about what ifs. Despite the pressure and anxiety of carrying on their relationship under the same roof as their parents, neither J.D. nor Stephen was glad for the end of the winter break to roll around. Somehow though, J.D. managed to get himself assigned to the task of driving Stephen back down to Tallahassee.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD DREW ON STEPHEN DREW. WHY. WHY. WHY. WHY.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would appreciate it if you didn't post the pics again.
Some stuff will end up getting me in trouble.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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From: [info]mstieforlife
Date: July 30th, 2008 09:41 pm (UTC)
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OH MY GOD THERE’S MORE! dies of utter happiness
SO HOT. NGGGGH!!! Aww, Stephen! Don’t worry; you’ll see him again soon enough. Right? RIGHT??? dies again
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you want to do this to us?!
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by SRQman on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Please J.D.,” Stephen gasped, and the older man reached down again, palming his brother’s cock expertly. Stephen moaned wordlessly, rocking back and forth eagerly between the hand on his cock and the cock in his ass. “Come on baby,” J.D. urged, “come on Stevie. Cum for me baby”. Stephen whimpered softly, rocking back one last time and cuming. J.D. moaned softly and thrust into him harder, faster, letting go of his dick to steady himself on Stephen’s hips as he pounded into him. Stephen groaned softly, over-sensitized, and then J.D. was splattering a full load of cum deep inside him. J.D. laid against his back for a moment, collecting himself. Slowly the big leaguer withdrew, then carefully washed away the cum that leaked from his brother’s ass. Stephen turned, and they kissed again. They stayed in the shower until the water ran cold, just kissing and holding onto one another.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 14, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same
as in c’mon
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Banned.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks I don't think anyone needs that shite
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 14, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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