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Mos-def-the-ecstatic_tiny by R.J. Anderson on Comment 186 comments

Lobstein has signed, yay!

Discuss what you please, but also read this piece by MGL.

And while you're waiting on some picks to sign read this interview about Tim Beckham:

BA: You talked about Tim making strides and being coachable, which is something we heard about him as an amateur player as well. What are some of the ways that he has evolved since signing?

JS: Well, I think No. 1, defensively he's much more under control—he's much smoother. He's allowing himself to make the plays that he was capable of making, but just because of his mechanics and things like that made it tough for him. He's got tremendous athleticism and now that he's cleaned up a lot of stuff—his glove presentation, from his exchange, putting his arm slot in a more consistent arm slot, a shorter arm slot, has helped him evolve. If we had video on him—well, we do—but I mean if you and I right now had a video of the first time we hit him groundballs to now, you would see an extremely different player.

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Can we dual this hread as a draft pick signing watch?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baseball is about execution!!!

Everybody who knows a thimble-full of baseball knowledge knows that in this scenario:

Bottom of the 9th, tie game, no outs, your 7 and 8 guy on 1st and 2nd

That the number 9 guy should bunt.

Whether that guy can properly execute the bunt is the real question. Baseball has no room for sims. If sims were accurate, do you think the Rays would’ve been 75-1 odds at the beginning of the season? How many sims had the Rockies making the World Series last year?

by Longo Land on Aug 15, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...Lots of sims had us winning 90 games.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The funny part is bunting in that situation is fine.

If one run is more important than more than one run, then by all means bunt.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 12:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

five excellent "sims" (projection systems)

87 CHONE
86 PECOTA
81 Hardball Times
80 Diamond Mind
77 ZiPS

Certainly there’s a difference between the common fan’s expectations and an intelligent sim’s expectations.

from here

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 15, 2008 12:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I recalled PECOTA projecting 92 wins at some point.

I suppose that must’ve came at some point during the season?

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what i'm quoting is one dude's Diamond Mind simulation using the PECOTA player-by-play projecitons

BPro’s actual PECOTA projections could be different, especially because they probably used different playing time estimates. And I believe you’re right that the actual PECOTA Rays projection was in the 90s.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 15, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odds are set exclusively by Las Vegas bookmakers to compel Joe Public to place a wager based on how they feel.

Of all the stats in all sports to base performance off of for a team, Las Vegas odds are the absolute worst possible stat you could use as an evaluator. You would seriously be more productive trying to correlate average YPC of the Bucs starting running back into Rays wins than using Las Vegas odds.

by kericr on Aug 15, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That R2 is actually .0450

It goes up when Warrick Dunn is the starter though.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm speechless

Obviously that doesn’t mean a whole lot, but it’s a hillarious coincidence.

by kericr on Aug 15, 2008 1:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SimCity4 was awesome!!!

by Longo Land on Aug 15, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quote from Beckham article
He (Beckham) came in knowing that he had to learn and get better and iron things out, and he’s doing a great job.

Sweet!

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you guys see Gerrit Cole is spurning the Yankees for UCLA?

Unless something’s changed since last night, or something changes by midnight,

by Kevin Gengler on Aug 15, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, and its damn hilarious

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey look, the Royals actually signed Melville

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once they get Hosmer

That’s going to be a fine draft for them.

by Kevin Gengler on Aug 15, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sheffield?

Is there a link to find out if Sheffield has been claimed?

by John 63 on Aug 15, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any word on Kyle Lobstein signing?

by HoodedMafia on Aug 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C.R.E.A.M.

Get the money
Dolla, dolla bills y’all

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 15, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeez

You yell at us when we use the reply button, and now when we don’t, you do anyway. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US, GOOD SIR?

by Kevin Gengler on Aug 15, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

er

“when we don’t use the reply button, and now when we do”*

by Kevin Gengler on Aug 15, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli

A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli A Milli

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LoL for realz

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he was a true son of Missionaries

he would have had to put it in her butt since they weren’t married and all.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sandy

greatest comment ever…congrats to you

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Aug 15, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and...

Tim Tebow is allowed to wear jean shorts if SHE comes with…

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Aug 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

those boobs are redic

and I’m not sure if it’s in a good way.

BTW, he claims to be a virgin. I certainly hope not.

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if it

goes in the butter as Sandy suggests, is he a virgin????

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Aug 15, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that his GF?

damn she is beyond hot, and tebow is lying if he is saying he is a virgin with her

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 16, 2008 1:43 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who

the F is Tyler Walker and why does he sweat so much..

www.outsperswing.com

by Tommy Rancel on Aug 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Ty Morrison also the same as Chris?

Ty made his debut with Princeton the other day

I see Carpenter took the scholarship and nixed the Rays

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey RJ, did you hear me on the radio today?

I was defending Percy while the hosts were slamming him

you’d have been proud

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't.

Why were they slamming him?

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because they're assholes who know zero about baseball

they think he’s a time bomb

i explained the nature os the close makes it a heart stopping situation for any closer

they are hoping he’s gone for good—stupid

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What they don't get and what i tried to point

out, and i hope you agreee, getting a lead after 8 is so much more important

Rays are 63-0 when that happens

Now Balfour can’t be used in the set up role

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mets of '07 might also

but generally speaking, even the worst team is MLB gas a fantastic record when leading after 8

Closer gets way to much praise and criticism imo

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we signing Kyle or what?

I see talks not going well with Prates and Alvarez

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here you go

The New York Post reports that the Yankees will demote Melky Cabrera to Triple-A and waive Richie Sexson prior to Friday’s game.

According to the newspaper, Brett Gardner and Cody Ransom will be called up from Triple-A to fill their spots on the roster. Cabrera is hitting just .242/.296/.337 in 117 games and Sexson has hit .221/.321/.381 in 96 games overall, including .250/.371/.393 with the Yankees. Gardner has hit .296/.414/.422 with 37 steals in 94 games at Triple-A and could see significant action in center field depending on how the Yankees choose to deploy Johnny Damon, making him a worthwhile pickup in AL-only leagues.
Source: New York Post
Related: Richie Sexson

by sternfan1 on Aug 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Packin it in already

Very nice!

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That didn't take long

Sexson sucks though.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But he was hitting lefties.

That’s what they wanted him to do. The move makes no sense and isn’t an improvement.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 3:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably increases the chance of Joba getting shut down.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ransom/Sexson isn't really a sign of that.

It’s a sign of wanting to make a move to make a move.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe

They are the Yankees. They do some really dumb shiat sometimes.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suspect

They passed Sexson through waivers, nobody claimed him, and now they’re dropping him in the hope that some other team (i.e. the Rays) will pick him up while he’s on the irrevocable waiver wire and cover the rest of his salary for the season.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they decide this year is a wash, why risk further injury.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gah, if Lobstein wants a Melville deal this could get tricky.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very true

Hearing Brian Anderson is not the same. Magrane is the Cher to Staat’s Sonny.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

I was kind of missing his retarded puns that dwayne ignored

by mrichardkent on Aug 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW

For anybody who hasn’t seen this, watch it now.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd1eu_conan-obrien-1864-baseball

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 15, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If thats what I think it is it is utterly F'ing amazing

I don’t watch Conan much, but I caught this live and almost pissed myself laughing.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes it is and I saw it live too

“Why not dig a trench so it is as low as you seem to wish it to be!”

LMAONAISE

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His get-up did it for me that stache is classic.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably not Longo4WorldLeader

I don’t think that kid gets jokes.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was great

Does anyone else wanna join one of these teams?

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unis are made of 100% cotton

100% cotton = HOT in FL

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 15, 2008 5:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

O's gave Matusz a big league deal, 3 mil bonus

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Prospective FA for 2009

link

Not really that many interesting options. Looking primarily at COF, most of the guys I’d beinterested in will come at too steep a price.

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is great

Hattip to Baseball Think Factory, from waswatching.com

This could just be the natural growth and decline phases of a major league hitter. But, then, why are Jeter’s wOBA numbers somewhat consistent over the last seven years?

    So, maybe it’s something else? After all, Jeter’s "power" has seemed to go away around the same time as when MLB came up with a PED policy that included suspensions.

    Yeah, I know, that’s outrageous, factually deprived, baseless, etc. – all those things that people like to say when you suggest that PEDs could be at play and you really don’t have a smoking gun.

    Forget that I even mentioned it…

    Let’s just say that Derek Jeter is doing what he always does, at least recently, while in the batter’s box, but the percentage of balls that Jeter has hit in the air (meaning line drives, flyballs, etc.) that go for a homerun has now gone down for the last three years in a row – because that’s fact.

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard that on the radio today.

Although I agree with him on this topic. I think he’s a tool… but that’s just my opinion.

by mrichardkent on Aug 15, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if I have to explain it you wouldn't understand

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 15, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jim Rome is the man

Perhaps the most respected voice in the world of sports broadcasting, Jim Rome is the leading opinion-maker of his generation. As host of the nation’s premiere sports radio talk show, Rome is known for his aggressive, informed, rapid-fire dialogue. Jim has established himself as the top choice of athletes and fans when it is time to know what is going on beyond the scoreboard.

by rglass44 on Aug 15, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Post of all-time

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just know

that someone here appreciates your dry wit.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don't like him.

There’s no logical reasons as to why i don’t… Although all he ever seems to talk about now is how “MAN-RAM is a FREAKING DODGER!!!”

by mrichardkent on Aug 15, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya...

They do it all with gills!

by LONGO4PREZ08 on Aug 15, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Opening-day starter Brad Penny was placed on the 15-day disabled list by the Los Angeles Dodgers on Thursday. The Dodgers also placed right-hander Cory Wade on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to last Saturday. To fill the open spots on their 25-man roster, the Dodgers recalled left-hander Eric Stults from Triple-A Las Vegas and purchased the contract of right-hander Tanyon Sturtze from Las Vegas.

by RATW on Aug 15, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good ol' ten-run

At least they’re keeping him regulated to the bully.

by kericr on Aug 15, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Numbers!

The Rays have signed the top pick in the second round, Coconino High (Flagstaff, Ariz.) lefthander Kyle Lobstein, for $1.5 million. That’s the highest bonus in that round this year and the equivalent of slot money for the 20th overall pick.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...3 Million

What does this have to do with anything?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 15, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We hope

50/50 proposition whether he gets his velocity back. A lot of HSers with high stock going into their senior years lose stock because they lose velocity. Some do (see Jeremy Jeffress, Sean O’Sullivan, Jordan Walden, etc.); some don’t (see Miers Quigley, James Houser, etc.)

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Houser sat 88-91 as an 18 year old

This year he was sitting 88-92 prior to his knee injury.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 15, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When?

He hasn’t touched 90 in 3 years.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And

he could dial it up to 95 or 96 in HS

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 15, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, we already did great

but anything on Meredith and Carpenter? I really wanted MaGee but that’s not happening.

by joeybw on Aug 15, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just gonna ask about Magee

Anyone got any news on him?

Also, Carpenter is gone. He’s very commited to Gonzaga.

Any news on Meredith? I dont think he’ll develop but its still worth a shot.

by dannythegreat on Aug 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here are the guys in the 1st round that didn't sign........
  1. overall – Aaron Crow RHP – Washington
  1. overall – Josh Fields RHP – Seattle
  1. overall – Gerrit Cole RHP – New York Yankees (HA HA!)

A couple suprising last minute signs were #2 Pedro Alvarez for a whopping $6 million guaranteed, #3 Eric Hosmer, #4 Brian Matusz, and #23 Allen Dykstra…. Each of these teams that lost their 1st or 2nd round pick will be compensated with the same or similar pick next year.

by Rays Rule on Aug 16, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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