Recap

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2008 12:49 AM EDT Comment 27 comments

For those wondering here are the (really unscientifc) results of tonight's home to first sprints:

	AB #1	AB #2	AB #3
Aki	NA	4.2	NA
Zobrist	4.5	NA	NA
Pena	4.6	NA	NA
Rocco	NA	NA	NA
Aybar	6*	NA	NA
Ruggiano	NA	4.8	4.7
Riggans	NA	5.1	NA
Gross	4.7	NA	NA
Bartlett	NA	NA	4.7

4.3 is the average time for righties to first and 4.2 is the average time for lefties to first. I cannot guarantee these times with great accuracy, but when two people are getting essentially the same time on every run on multiple tries I think it's worth posting. One note on Aybar's first at-bat: he absolutely dogged it. The ball was in flight to left field and I'm not sure he made it halfway down the line at his pace.

Oh and there was some questions regarding whether Riggans second at-bat should count; it was a comebacker to the mound that someone (kecir, I think) argued shouldn't be listed because he was hustling until the throw was made. Another user asked why it didn't count and well, I included it anyways.

Unless our hand-eye coordination is truly awful, these shouldn't be that far off, and with the exception of Aki nobody seemed all too interested in busting it down the line, especially not Ruggiano.

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4.6

Thats probally as fast as Pena is running to first.

by dannythegreat on Aug 17, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Another thing

In no way should Pena be running to first faster than everyone except Aki and Zobrist (barely). But no one will get benched…

by dannythegreat on Aug 17, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeaa. pena can't run any faster than that.

formerly websterjtc; always 9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Aug 17, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

upton is going to start tomorrow!

i guess maddon saw that our lineup last time without upton was a fluke, wow pena does really book down the line! almost as fast as zobrist. aybar 6 seconds? wow even manny accuses him of doing it there

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 17, 2008 1:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Missed the 'e'

I didn’t see that Aybar run (I only saw the 3rd inning of this game I think) but I’ve seen him trot down the line before when he should have been booking it. I really don’t want to see Upton getting benched anymore, but I have a feeling it’s going to happen again, and this time it’s going to be because of something he did in the field, and we’re going to be doing this all over again.

by kericr on Aug 17, 2008 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

*apparently I don't even know how to spell my own handle

It’s not logically pronouncable in english due to a lack of vowels. It’s phonetically identical to ‘Carriker’ (no, my handle has absolutely nothing to do with him)

by kericr on Aug 17, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't even watch this game. fuck the witchhunt

Although RJ I do not like you trying to calling out the other players. The target should be Maddon, and not the other players.

by matthan on Aug 17, 2008 3:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Starting to become clear, he's more a fan of Upton than the tea,

by sternfan1 on Aug 17, 2008 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because he started a BJ Upton website

It’s long been clear that you’re more a fan of trolling than the team

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 17, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The tea was a bit too sweet for my liking.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Enough RJ

For the love of God RJ, get off it already. You probably defended John Edwards’ infidelity by recounting Newt Gingrich’s failed marriage. I am so SICK of hearing counterarguments that begin with …“well, the other guy did it to”. I have been thinking since week one that BJ needs an attitude adjustment, and it’s about time that Maddon is giving it. He has a nice OBP this year, generates some walks, and has made some nifty plays…that doesn’t excuse someone of his talent level from arbitrarily deciding when, and where, he is going to employ it.

by FloridaSon on Aug 17, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Great post well said

It’s so common to “justify” a wrong by citing other wrongs

by sternfan1 on Aug 17, 2008 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why does it excuse other players, then?

formerly websterjtc; always 9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Aug 17, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

of course BJ should out groundballs

But for him to receive the level of backlash from radio hosts, announcers and Rays fans that he has is ridiculous. How many other players who don’t bust their ass have as many people calling them lazy, conceited, and in need of an attitude adjustment. All other evidence points to BJ being a hard worker and team player. So let’s hope he starts hustling every time and that everyone will stop with the BJ bashing.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 17, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is, "of course BJ should RUN out groundballs"

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 17, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We don't know what is going on behind closed doors

Maddon came down hard, because he has warned Upton on numerous levels. He is also not typically one to call someone out publicly. He is the type of manager that handles things privately, which he has told the press on numerous occasions when they hounded him about his overly positive demeanor. He gets criticized for not criticizing and when he decides to act on something, then people complain about the way he does it. For as much as people come to the defense of an aloof outfielder who has been warned time and time again, how about we come to the defense of Maddon?

Overall, this is getting pretty petty, R.J. Twice in a span of 10 days deserved punishment. And enough about what other players do. Only Upton can control Upton’s actions, and therefore is the only one to reward or blame.

by raysfaninminnesota on Aug 17, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by Jason Collette on Aug 17, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

How much fail last night?

Lefty(should have known we’d suck) Matt Harrison:
a. Struck out more batters (eight) than he had in his other seven big league
starts combined (seven).

Allowed three singles — two of which came in the first inning — and no
walks.

c. Retired the final 18 batters he faced.

d. Threw one of the best games any Rangers pitcher has thrown this season.

e. Threw one of the best games of his pro career, at any level.

f. Earned his fifth win in eight starts, one victory less than Kevin
Millwood has in 21 starts.

g. Became just the sixth Rangers starter this season to complete at least
eight innings (and the first Rangers rookie to do so in more than two
years).

h. Needed only 109 pitches — 72 percent of which were strikes and a greater
percentage of which looked absolutely aggressive — to get his 24 outs.

by Jason Collette on Aug 17, 2008 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It was a bad day at the plate

No patience, the main culprit

Let’s forget it and win the series

by sternfan1 on Aug 17, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so, the tigers signed gary glover and called him up to the show....

formerly websterjtc; always 9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Aug 17, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't that be something

if Glover’s save the last day of the season, is the difference of the playoffs for us or not?

by sternfan1 on Aug 17, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it would be something if the Tigers made Glover their closer

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 17, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Something stupid.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 17, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I called in an earlier thread that he'd be back in the majors with the Tigers this year

almost too obvious

by Albertrayon on Aug 17, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love the stats and analysis on this site

but this is by far, the most pointless post of the season. No one on here has any idea of who has been told to take it easy down the line. Aybar has had hamstring issues this year, Bartlett hurt his knee last night, Rocco _______. The one thing we do know is that BJ was told to run hard every time and he didnt.

by LeftRight on Aug 17, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs