8/18: LAA (76-46) @ RAYS (75-48)
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Garland look far too much like Gary Glover for my liking. Maybe it's just the soul patch.
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About to head to the game.
Hope it is a good crowd, also hope Rocco gets an at-bat.
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BELIEVE in 08!
Per the heater
No surgery for Percy
back in less than two weeks
too bad all you percy haters
Hip hop hooray ho
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I've always wondered how Garland wins so many games
he seems to give up a lot of hits, a normal amount of walks, and doesn’t strike out a ton, but the guy is nearly always near the league leaders in Wins.
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Luck?
Wait until someone signs him for 4/48.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I put him at . 3.75 years of good "luck"
Year Team PA K% BB% kL% kS% uBB% iBB% HBP%
2005 CHA 901 12.76% 5.22% 2.22% 10.54% 4.88% 0.33% 0.78%
2006 CHA 896 12.50% 4.58% 2.68% 9.82% 4.13% 0.45% 0.67%
2007 CHA 883 11.10% 6.46% 3.62% 7.47% 6.12% 0.34% 0.45%
2008 ANA 655 10.38% 7.02% 3.21% 7.18% 6.72% 0.30% 0.92%
He is 57-37 since the beginning of 2005 with declining K rates, increasing BB rates, and mid 40’s GB rates. When he regresses it should be pretty hard.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not nearly as good as he's perceived.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd love to see someone post his run support numbers
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actually, i'll look 'em up if someone knows where to find that info...
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His gamelogs might be a start
but I don’t think they differentiate runs scored while he was in vs. the team as a whole. Dude must be a helluva teammate.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I got it.
08: 4.54
07: 4.14
06: 5.66
05: 4.60
04: 5.10
03: 5.02
02: 4.24
01: 4.33
00: 5.56
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
relative to league-average, please ; )
and how about bullpen support?
(where’d you find the stats, btw?)
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B-Ref's gamelogs
At the bottom.
I don’t have league wide #s :(
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Come for the Rays
stay cuz your house is under water
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
please beat up on the lucky Angels
not because i want to gain ground them but just because i sincerely hate them, and their fans.
Their expected record is 67-55 but their record is 76-46
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
Check out ours while you are at it
Pythag puts the Chisox as the 2nd best team in the AL behind Boston. Thats why the play the game.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why us and the angels are so low.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
doesn't explain all of it, though
I’m still working on that table I posted yesterday, because simply comparing bullpen WPA to sum(WPA/LI) includes one form of bullpen performance that’s not attributable to skill. We should credit a team for optimizing the way its relievers are used — the good ones in high-leverage situations and the poor ones in low-leverage situations. But we shouldn’t credit a team for having each pitcher pitch better when he’s in high-leverage situations than when he’s in low-leverage situations. Yes, the second one helps “explain” the Pythag gap, but it’s not a skill. There’s also the issue that the Angels have played games that have higher leverage situations than others teams. Is playing those types of games a skill beyond having the relievers to keep them close? Maybe to a certain degree, but not totally.
Anyway, giving the Angels 100% credit for their bullpen, you can explain about 4 games of their nine-run Pythag gap. And you can explain about 75% of the Rays gap.
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one reason for the gap
is that when a team falls behind 8 or so runs they go to their long man and he is usaully their worst pitcher, and allows the other team to score more and more runs
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
right
using leverage and WPA allows you to “remove” those runs from the Angels RA ledger. giving up 5 runs when the plate appearances are 10% as important as normal really only counts as .5 runs.
and using leverage and WPA allows you to increase the importance of preventing runs in close ballgames. holding down a one-run lead in the ninth is only one run saved, but WPA counts it as more like three or four, because the LI of that situation is around three or four.
by comparing these leveraged runs allowed/prevented (in the form of WPA) to the actual runs allowed/prevented shows how well the skills of a bullpen were optimized: great pitchers in tight games and crappy pitchers in blowouts.
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re: Angels
84 games into the season, the Angels had scored and allowed the same number of runs, but were still like 15 games over .500.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
actually they had 7 more runs scored but yes, very lucky
Feliz and Hurley. The 1-2 punch of the future
Gomessweetgomes - thanks for trying brother
but i couldn’t figure out how to score those tickets from the Times. I’m tech retarded.
I am off to the game though. GO RAYS!!!!
scary morning for Indians fans as Matt LaPorta was hit in the head
with a retaliation pitch after he took out the Chinese catcher earlier in the game, in the olympics, if this game was in America we would have had a pretty solid Brawl I believe. LaPorta had to be taken to the hospital and has a mild concussion.
Nate Schiererholtz slid hard into the chinese catcher and a brawl broke out
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
I watched the game and didnt see a brawl
ESPN -- The Red Sox Network
by St Pete Native on Aug 18, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
there is a Hurricane/Tropical storm bearing down on the state
ESPN -- The Red Sox Network
by St Pete Native on Aug 18, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I'm not suprised that there aren't people at the Trop I'm just saying.
by Raysfan4life on Aug 18, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh alright, i cant wait for ESPN to make some sly comment about tonites attendance
i thought that was where u were coming from. my apologies
ESPN -- The Red Sox Network
by St Pete Native on Aug 18, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
what's the argument for that?
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ERA is shit because it says Sonny = Garland
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
um i wanted to ask
anyone have a update of days in 1st? Rays have to be very close or even ahead of the Red Sox in days by now
He was supposed to cover the site today.
Hooray for dependability.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
When Manny hit his 500th HR this year there...
It was ridiculous…..as bad as any time I have ever seen the Trop
i know they are off today but
anyone else still fear the Yanks somewhat? I mean we have 6 left against them…
They can't catch the Twins/ChiSox, so what's the point
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
23 pitches thrown as well in the first
Maybe we can just have it set up where Kaz throws 1/2 the game and Price throws the 2nd half
I'd like to know how they are hitting him
Apparently he gave up a bunch of weak singles last game
Line drive was a looper
He’s just getting unlucky so far.
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Side Note
Bleacher seats for the Yankees Rays game up here next month selling for $150 a pop. Never more than $10 before this year.
Aki was busy in the first, huh?
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do they have anyone in that pen with decent control?
I thought Zumaya was gonna be great but he throws too hard to even control where it goes.
so much more consistent then our other guys
And I was begging for him to be taken out of the rotation earlier this year.
I pretty much "fell in love" with his pitching when he was in montgomery
so… I guess i’ve been a little more steadfast in his defense than most.
Do not want to Jinx
Sonny looks good enough out there to throw a NO NO tonight.
I was at Kazmir record strikeout game and I just see it possible.
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by Japhei on Aug 18, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Do not want to Jinx
I think Upton will get 5 hits!
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Weber is the man, he nearly beat some dudes ass that was picking on a retarted kid at
the bar one night
he had a streak snapped last year of like 6 seasons in a row in which the team he was on
won the league championship.
i enjoy watching the ESPN yellow dots circle the bases
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i'm on. but i'm not witty.
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Rivera's Marcel projection: .273/.329/.455
And his 2008 line is pretty bad in 170 PAs.
And he’s a corner outfielder not known for his glove.
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So with payroll increasing next year to ~55 million...
…do you think the FO goes after any free agents? Even with the increase in payroll, their revenue stream from this season should cover that easily, and then some.
I would look for us to do more in the trade market than the FA one.
we have a lot of guys that could get moved this off-season. Not all will, but I will be dissapointed if some dont.
They have tons of depth at pitching, especially SP
And outfield depth is an obvious need right now. I think they may make a run at a really big bat for DH.
Also
While it wouldn’t be the best option, Hinske at RF might not be horrible, and he could probably be resigned on the cheap(ish).
on the same token
I don’t think that Hinske at DH would be horrible either.
I agree though, he shouldn’t be too expensive…
hinske's a DH
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Well yeah...
I meant as a full-time DH.
Which he is clearly not this year… thanks to Floyd’s presence on the roster.
I'd have to agree...
At the very least one of either Jackson, Sonny, or Niemann needs to be dealt…
I’d be surprised if we didn’t land someone like Rivera, Ethier, or Kemp.
Sonny's underrated right now, no reason to trade him for less than he's worth
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i would trade both jackson and niemann for Ethier
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i would really want Bradley for DH
since he wont be THAT expensive and hes great but cant even sneeze around that guy without him missing games
i bet Bradley gets a pretty decent contract
he’s been awesome this year.
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there certainly could be cheap free agents available
but i agree that the trade market is a better place to take on salary. time to trade an arm or two for a bat or two.
looking at this list of free agents, I don’t see an outfielder that is both decent and in our price range.
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Really, this year's FA class for OF isn't that strong at all.
Anybody who hits the FA market isn’t worth much. I do expect to see the Rays resign Rocco and maybe try to resign Hinske.
they're DHs
but seriously, all will be overpaid (even for FAs), unless GMs are retarded about Dunn’s K’s or Burrell actually has improved with the glove.
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and they're the "good" fielders of that group
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You gotta think Rocco is going to come back on a below market deal that is
heavy on the incentives.
Hinske will certainly be invited back at a fair deal, but I am not sure if they would be willing to overspend on him.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
fwiw he seems to like playing here as well
I don’t see anyone throwing a ton of money at him. He is a true jack of all trades master of none, but on this team Mad Dog knows how to use him perfectly,
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the game on FSN or is it Me-Friendly
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 18, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
Garland is already over at 50 pitches
Which isn’t that great, I would much rather face him than their pen.
If they get enough runs against Garland, it doesn't matter whether the Rays face the pen or not
Since the Angels probably aren’t scoring that many runs against this pitching staff.
I wouldn't worry.
The Rays have already put 5 on the board vs. Jonny Fail.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
The Rays are making me happy.
And apparently Fay doesn’t seem to have hit the Keys so hard after all (according to Drudge), so maybe y’all can get the rest of the series in.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Also, Jon Garland is inestimably mediocre.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
anyone watch Vlad enough to explain his crappy 08 season?
is he done as a stud?
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Haven't watched him that much.
Has he really been crappy? He’s way off his career norms, but it doesn’t look bad.
i suppose crappy is relative
.285/.348/.492, good for a 120 OPS+, well below his 147 career OPS+
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Triples make baby Jesus gurgle and coo.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Actually, that's probably an error.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Technically single and a hilarious error.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Would that this were true.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Navarro is such a rally-killer.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Floyd Backspin!!!
I hope whoever caught that Floyd homer is still alive. That ball was smoked!!
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by Japhei on Aug 18, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
the enemy of my enemy is my friend
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but a slightly preferable enemy to the other, greater enemy.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
way to overanalyze that
i think that purple tentacle is choking the air supply to your brain
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonny is one guy that can't have errors.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say you're right, but Ed does get more flyballs
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if they are sneaking through
Pop-ups>FB
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
BWahh
pop-ups>GB
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He pitches to contact more than the average guy
Correct me if I’m wrong, but he still has a pretty high BABIP.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
but is that his doing?
and he’s somewhat stingy with the homeruns, right? so the extra runners won’t score on those as much.
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BABIP excludes HR's
sprised you didn’t know that. Seriously though I would think BABIP regression takes place over a longer span of time than say OPB or SLG. Which could signal more of a trend than people realize.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i know that -- the HR comment was a different point.
Sonny’s different from Shields in that he allows more runners, but doesn’t give up the longball. You wouldn’t want errors with Shields because they’re more likely to score on a homerun.
(not that you want errors with any pitcher, it’s just that there are different arguments for who suffers more more errors and i don’t think it’s easy to know that question without a good study of it. intuition can’t manage the details.)
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I've always thought of Shields as a Catfish Hunter type of guy
He will give up some dingers, but for the most part they are with the bases empty. I think it is a part of being aggressive more than anything, and when he has guys on he starts to tone that back.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Price with 4 walks tonights
two to a .237 hitter with 0 HRs. He’s still giving up weak contact for the most part, but his first two AAA starts have been less than impressive so far.
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He still is getting dinked to death
the third run he gave up was on an infield single, but you put yourself in that position with the walks. All three runs he’s given up have started with 2 out walks.
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BJ UPTON IS LAZY
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
TOO LAZY TO SLIDE
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Seeing the replay...man, I was kidding initially, but I'm not now.
That’s godawful.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
I know R.J. will box me for this, but...look, there really IS something to this whole "B.J. Upton is lazy and unfocused" meme.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Well then don't box me please.
Because that was fucking inexcusable from Upton. And after all this hoopla too!
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Nothing more to say
BJ cannot be defended any longer. He proves his critics right more and more
he proves that he doesn't hustle more and more
he doesn’t prove all the extrapolated bullshit about his character, though.
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why would he box you for that?
where do you get unfocused, though? and do you mean lazy other than not hustling? do you know of other times in his life he’s lazy?
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I mean not hustling. And also the nonchalant Manny pose/jog...oof that stung.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
nope, he should run, damnit
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Upton is a huge moron
What is so hard about hustling? Jesus.
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Wait..Upton's still playing?
He gets benched for that Bullshit PD but not for that shit?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Pinch-Dive?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
was it a possible homerun that he watched?
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and he didn't get benched. (not judging, just stating.)
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Upton was not tagged
The ump totally missed the call
Texeira missed him.
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by Japhei on Aug 18, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
It doesn't matter, Teixeira gets (and deserves) the benefit of the doubt in those situations.
He had the ball SO LONG BEFORE Upton got into second base that the tag was just assumed, the way double play tags are traditionally assumed by umpires.
Once again, disgraceful on Upton’s part.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
This is all because he doesn't care.
He chews. He dips. He might even smoke.
by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 18, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You know what....if BJ is looking for that phat contract....I guarantee you that every single team in MLB is aware of Upton's antics...I bet he's sad he didn't sign long term
When you get booed at your own ballpark, that cant be a good thing
Can someone give me a play by play of what happened with Upton?
Putting my kids to bed.
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Fuck yo kids I’m gonna lazy them to lazytown where they can laze around all day
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
My girls have their hair cut like Stephanie from Lazy Town.
What are the odds?
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there is really something called lazy town
wow! And i hope you didn’t take offense to that I just re-read it.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Upton had a stand up double
but the ump called him out for being lazy. Basically the 2nd baseman got his glove close, an obvious no tag.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
SMashes a long liner, everyone thinks its a homer, jogs around first, speeds up a bit, but the ball gets thrown behind him, Teixeria was tariling him and tagged him.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Except he wasn't tagged
And maddon is so lazy he didn’t bother to come out and fight for his player.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone read
The Book: Playing the percentages in baseball
I just came across this and was wondering if it was worth reading.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
it's good
very math-heavy, so you kind of have to like that to enjoy reading the whole book.
the conclusions are extremely cool, often different from current sabermetric thinking (like bunting is a good option more than you’d think.)
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Thanks Sky I'm gonna see if I can find a cheap copy somewhere
Tango is the shizzle
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for a
LOL4REALZ
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I late on this or did anyone see that Al Reyes refused minor league assignment? Why in the hell would he not want a chance to get called up here? (well..it wouldn't happen) but still?
Kinda like Gary McGlover signing with Detroit….must be the money? Regardless I guess I’m happy both are no longer in the organization
McGlover hasn't realized
Mo’ Money, Mo’ Problems
Plus he wanted the chance to learn the Fossum Flip
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
In the meantime
We are putting the hurt to the big bad Angels. And time is running out in Sox and Yankee nation.
The angels play the AL west all year
They are a little over hyped.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you forgot the Seattle Strasburgs
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
...How is time running out on the sox? We still have to worry about him.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
HAHAHJAHAHAHA
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wheres that free candy.jpg when you need it
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 18, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
RJ's getting some work done alright
Between this and justifying Beejus’ most recent mental lapse he should be up all night oh yeah
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
How's J-Money doing tonight?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing to defend.
It was stupid. He should’ve ran.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The bright spot is he hit the crap out of the ball.
But otherwise it was the same thing Hanley did. Oh well.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The ageless one with an RBI double
I’ve always liked his game just wish he wasn’t so streaky
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Upton wouldn't fight you.
Too nice of a guy.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya gotta love Mad Dog
When a guy makes mistakes the night before he is not afraid to run him back out there. That has to build incredible confidence.
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The good, the bad, the Beej
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I still don't get why you'd boo Upton.
Did they ever boo Glover? Seo? Fossum? Upton is better than them.
Who was the guy who said he average two per inning?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
LONGO4WORLDLEADER!!!!!
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad....I failed to reply about you saying you don't understandwhy people boo Upton.
EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AGREED THAT BJ IS A LAZY ASS…I still love the guy, gimme a freakin break man!
So? You boo him?
He’s still one of our best players. You don’t boo those types unless you want them to leave. If you want him to leave then you don’t want to win.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
They shoulda tried to get something for Cheryl when they had the chance
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody listening to the radio here Mad Dog just say he was a victim of identity theft?
I bet he wishes they hadn’t given out his glasses now.
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I too, am the victim of identity theft.
Some woman sci fi writer has a website with my name.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Something you need to tell us
Chris/Christina?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU SCOTT KAZMIR HOW DARE YOU GO 5 INNNINGS AND STRUGGLE LIKE A YOUNG PITCHER WOULD
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
I get what you're going for and I love Scotty, but
he has close to 120 starts and nearly 800 IP in MLB. He has a young arm, but he should have a veteran brain by now. That means pitching to the situation. Of course if he had his good slider it would be a moot point.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He's still 24, he skipped AAAm and even though he went 800 IP, he has enough pressure to develop his pitches, that he's just now trying to become an efficient pitcher.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Then lets see progress there and not taking steps backward.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
STP has a Scott Kazmir picture with the lips cut out.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
;_; YOU SWORE YOU'D NEVER TELL YOU BASTARD
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
WHen you adjust your motion to make progress, things get tricky.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
IP/GS
2004 4.75
2005 5.8
2006 6
2007 6
2008 5.75
Look at my name I love the guy, but I want him to evolve more into the Sandy Koufax than the Scott Kazmir part of it.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Look RJ, I know you have the biggest hard on for Upton, but you would be a fool if you don't think he screwed up....
And ever since I can remember, fans boo the opposing team and even guys they root for if they fuck up. And BJ fucked up. Period.
That doesn't mean you boo him
I’m pretty sure BJ understands the play more than any of us and knows he messed up
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the point of booing?
Oh, you’re MAD at a bad play? Holy shit, really?!
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Teammates boo eachother all the time, amirite?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Bookilis tried that shit and Manny punched him in the face
Best move he ever made
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree.
I’m a fan of this team and I’m not booing anyone on it. As an analyst obviously I like B.J. and don’t care too much for Edwin, but even if Edwin gets firebombed I’m still cheering for him.
Maybe I’m in the minority.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
"Maybe I'm in the minority."
So is B.J.
by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 18, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU EDWIN ITS YOUR FAULT THE DODGERS RUSHED YOU WHY DID YOU SHOW SO MUCH TALENT YOU BUM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
...Just shut the fuck up right now, ok?
The only fans who boo their own players are New Yorkers or Jerkoffs.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
How about you go say hello to LONGO4PREZ in a place I like to call BOXED.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Boxing people is boo-worthy
It makes you look like a power-mad dictator squashing first amendment rights. Let peoples own idiocy doom them.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You must have missed the second part.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HUI thought the first amendment of DRB was We only use one stat?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Thats the first commandment
Stop confusing Church and State it makes you look dum!
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU GUYS ARE BOTH WRONG.
Rays Rule, you wanna keep being an asshole and rubbing this into their faces here, go ahead. When you get boxed, enjoy your time off.
RJ and SBP, I have every right to boo my team when they make awful plays if I paid for my ticket. My only other way of showing dissatisfaction with my team is to not buy a ticket. Sitting there and doing nothing doesn’t do anything at all.
I wouldn't box him.
He’s got the right, but I have the right to think it’s fucking stupid.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you see, most players don't know when they do bad...
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose that last year you would have loved to see 15,000 people come to Rays games
And sit around and do absolutely nothing for their 50 home losses. Silent crowds. Because they didn’t win.
Or every time a player makes a really really stupid play
Everybody just collectively shrugs? Should they cheer? How would 15,000 of you in a crowd have reacted to that Upton play?
The point is, it's what fans do.
You can’t tell fans to not boo their team for making mistakes, because there’s really nothing else they can do other than stand around and do nothing.
Nobody said not to boo.
I said it was stupid. As we know, people do a lot of stupid things, and some of that gives me humor.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with you on this.
I don’t think booing is stupid at all unless you boo for really really stupid reasons. Booing Upton for trying to coast into 2nd and getting caught from behind from a lead-footed 1st baseman is booworthy in my eyes.
..Okay. Don't go. All Booing is going to do is wear out your lungs and have everyuone in your vicinity pissed off at you.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
He's saying booing players for stuff beyond their control is silly.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly...you guys are being retarded
One thing I have noticed is that ALL of you agree ALL the time. Saber, SRQ, and RJ must share the same brain
you are a stupid fuck
this entire blog would be much less annoying and much more intelligent without you
Not booing good players having a bad night is what seperates us from those animals
in NY.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction: Booing A-Rod = stupidest shit ever.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would boo jeter all day long if I was a ny fan.
He is awful.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You're just made cuz he gave you herpes
along with most of NYC. Follow the tree.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Still, those were three bonehead mental mistakes in one play
48 hours after being benched for a bonehead mental mistake. It’s not worthy of a booing, but it’s not exactly cheer-worthy, either.
by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 18, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but the Boeing B.J. is something everyone should receive once
Something about being 40,000 feet up makes it that much better
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
twss
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
you know if Navarro was able to block that, no run would be scored
then again if Balfour showed any control on the pitch, it wouldnt be issue
Balfour will continue to regress
until he throws something different. Same pitch over and over again.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
Nobody is
B-ref had a stat the other day that of guys with 1000+IP he has an ERA+ of close to 200. The next guy had like 150
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh. This is a close game now.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
You're not going to pull a sternfan and only show up when it is tight or we're losing are you?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been here for awhile, buddy.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
I'm just messing with you
and I’m not your friend, guy
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
On Gameday Bradford's balls look like they're springing up from the grass like bouncing Betties.
The arc is awesome.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
At the seattle game bradford was hated by the local crowd
Apperantly they thought he threw like a girl.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a knuckleballer.
We’re in no position to be casting aspersions.
"Maybe Chief has to go and grab somebody from his neck and throw him into the wall."
Well, not really.
Wasn’t he sent down?
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
YAYERRRRRRRR
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time to sail the shitposting seas thanks to no work
by HAHAHA OH WOW on Aug 18, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that normally how it goes down
by intention or not?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually.
But I don’t know how many are going to have power or come on here tomorrow. I guess I’ll throw something together.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the Rays could use a day off tomorrow.
Bullpen getting a big workout lately. If there’s a game tomorrow, Shields better go 8 innings.
Bring a sleeping bag and some MRE's
This is going to be the WORST TROPICAL STORM EVER
at least that’s what TV screams
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in Virginia right now and they are yelling at me
I was all like c’mon guys and they were like but the damage won’t someone please think of the children and I was like whoa
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Say yes to Ruggs
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Nah, bunt was miedocre.
But miedocre pitcher on the mound who hasn’t played there much he took safe route.
GAbeeeeeee and Ruggggsss
Ruggs says fuck you Foley I’m a man I’m 40
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slartibarti
man that had jack all over it. i blame the wind from the fans not being there cause of HURRCIANE
We probably have enough members to do a pool for the rest of the year for when he will hit it out
$10 for everybody,pull names out of a hat huh huh?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeahhh boiiii
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Please tell me he was hustling...Please.....
by Cory Alexander on Aug 18, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Figgins bobbled the ball.....
and still threw out BJ by 3 steps
Someone with his speed should not be out that that much on a bobbled ball like that
by Jason Collette on Aug 18, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a line drive right to him, you are pretty dumb.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see you can't back your argument.
Learn more about baseball please.
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 18, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Harsh much?
Collette knows his shit man
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a lazer, CC of all people has been thrown out on a similar margin on that play.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
Yea, CC isn't the best person to resemble running out grounders either
by Jason Collette on Aug 18, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
IIRC he was running 90%, if it was a softly hit ball it would be different, but still, thats a tough hit for any runner.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
90% sucks. Figgins isn't a great thrower - what if he sails it wide?
by Jason Collette on Aug 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
BALL FREAKING GAME!!!
At least we ALL have this in common, we love to watch our team win….GO RAYS!!!
Miller and Hammel pitched the 8th
and we won
we are just that good
13 wins for Sonny, whats our franchise record?
Which is humorous.
Usually the people who hate Sonny use stats like Ws, ERA, ect., yet by doing so they have to like him.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 18, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ill admit i did hate him
but now i fucking love him, much more consistent than our other guys. Then again, none of our 5 have been too bad lately.
She loves Kevin Millahhh
I hate her
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
YES!!!!
and a guaranteed season series win over the Halos
.5 behind the best record in baseball.
I fucking love this team more and more every day
Old Wheels is back just in time for Balfour's regression
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Recap will be up after I shower.
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"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
so we won the 1st game
and the next 2 are Shields and Garza at the trop where they usually are amazing
This Upton Benching thing Is out of Hand.
All this has done is put a spot light on every friggen play BJ is involved in. The guy is hitting the ball a lot better now. He doesn’t seem to be taking so many pitches. He is working on his bat and now he gets hit with the laziness rap.
As for Booing him at the Trop. If you boo a member of the team that you are a fan of you are no longer a fan. You have to be a fan of the entire organization. By no means can you defend him for not hustling but to boo him is wrong. BJ was embarassed and we as Rays fans should be embarassed right along with him. The fans really need to lift a player up when this sort of situation happens. Notice the fans lifted him up and cheered him for the nice catch in CF but on his next AB he doubles off the wall and the ump blew the call there was no tag. If Upton had not been given this laziness monaker all everyone would be talking about is the blown call. If I were BJ from now on I would go full speed everything. You hit a HR … Sprint around the bases. When the inning is over sprint back to the dugout. Go to the other extrememe and when people complain about it say hey … I thought I was Lazy now you are saying I show too much effort. Make up your mind.
Upton will end up being the Warren Sapp of the Rays. Everyone will hate him and he will leave and our defense will never be the same. If I were BJ I would certainly be telling my agent to look for other opportunities for 2012 and if I get traded before that so be it. I hope he goes somewhere else and catches fire so that the casual Rays fan will realize how damn stupid they are being with this BJ situation.
a win just isn't the same without the fiddle cat to top it off.
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by walkoffwalk on Aug 19, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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